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I hope this is not normal, i am realy dissapointed about the battery life of my vox.
Yesterday at 6 in the morning I woke up from a warning sound that the battery was almost flat. I plugged it in, got up at 11.30 and started him up.
Did 2 calls and 4 text messages, and at 22.30 when i was watching TV i got the battery warning again!
Same thing happend today, why isn't my battery lasting longer than 12 hours?
I coudn't have done something wrong while charging/discharging becous it only lasts 12 hours so its always fully discharged before recharging.
And i always closed the running apps in the task manager (taakbeheer).
What applications do you have installed that startup automatically?
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What applications do you have installed that startup automatically?
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i just got the original rom installed after some problems with the Neo rom
Cells in the battery might be on the verge on death. Run the battery down to 0, cover the second pin from the left with electrical tape and put it to charge while turned on or with a seperate charger. Charge it full to 100%, remove the tape and put it back to charge. Run your "daily" test again and see how she fares.
I have an extra 2250mAh I can sell you if you want, doesn't come with an extended battery cover however.
how can they be dead? i just got the phone for a week. :s factory error?
Oh, a week? That's not right at all.
128MB said:
how can they be dead? i just got the phone for a week. :s factory error?
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Bring back to your service provider where you bought the phone from, my HTC S720 did the same thing and i got a new phone replaced and the battery issue is gone.
Altho now it freezes here and there >.<
CaNe13 said:
Bring back to your service provider where you bought the phone from, my HTC S720 did the same thing and i got a new phone replaced and the battery issue is gone.
Altho now it freezes here and there >.<
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Well, it's still Windows Mobile! <img>
I don't think it's the battery.
I had this problem about 5 times already..rebooting the phone seemed to fix it every time.
I'm not saying rebooting will fix your phone but I'm almost sure it a software issue.
were there times it did work as it should?
First recharge was held a full day of internet. and i watched a 20min episode of King Of Queens.
I'm goint to try the phone for another few days, if the problem still occurs i'll ship it back to my store.
hmm
battery is now holding fine. It could last more than a week now on standby.
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hmm
battery is now holding fine. It could last more than a week now on standby.
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HTC S710 1050 mAh battery last more than a week, unbelievable
Mine lasts 3 days tops
Now i have it @228Mhz probably 2 if I don't do anything with it.
I will be getting myself a Nokia E71 so I'll have 2 2250mAH batteries and an extended cover with soft touch if anybody is interested in buying them for cheap.
I'll also probably sell a 2GB SD and an OEM 1050mAH with it. Keeping 2 1050's at the Vox as a backup.
Just throwin' it out there.
Well not a week but i checked regularly and the batt lost about 15-20%/day on standby?
It think it needed a few charges to be fully usable.
Working fine now.
I only use it one day before recharging anyway. It drains to literally nothing. I am a very have user (or should I say gamer??^^) You know, school is sooooooo boring!
When i was in school i always had my laptop in front of me ^^
Hide taskbar + alt-bat ftw!
hey guys, according the latest test of my battery, it lasted just 3 hours with wifi on. i've just upgraded to neo rom yesterday. can any body help? and can anybody explain which cell of the battery hawaiii is talking about.
I have 2 2250mAH cell batteries if you would like them. I am no longer using my Vox so they are no use to me. They have been used for roughly one week and come with an extended battery cover with soft touch paint on it.
are these batteries bigger? do thet stick out?
I've had my Note 10.1 for about a year and a half and the battery no longer lasts nearly as long as it did when it was new. I'm now having to charge it just about every day, if I use it at all.
I called Samsung. Of course, the warranty is only 1 year and I'm past that, so they gave me the # to their service center (RSI - Repair Services Inc). I called them and they said it would be $159 to replace the battery. I can't see spending that much. I asked if I could buy a replacement battery and they said no.
Do any of you know where I can get a replacement battery? And instructions on how to disassemble/reassemble?
I've completely disassembled/reassembled numerous laptops and a Galaxy Note 2 phone - and they even worked afterwards and had no leftover parts! So, I'm pretty comfortable in thinking I can do it myself, with at least a little guidance on how to get it apart (and maybe even without that).
Or, I would consider paying a service to do it, if it's $100 or less, if you know of one. Especially if it's local to the northern VA/DC area.
TIA!
So, just FYI, there's a kit with a video on how to do it here:
http://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_G...eplacement_Kit_p/samsung galaxy note 10.1.htm
That kit is $50.
But, Newegg has just the OEM battery for $33 (w/free shipping).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0890RC4649
The "kit" only adds the plastic tool for prying open the casing, and maybe a jeweler's screwdriver. I have that stuff and couldn't see spending $17 plus whatever the shipping would be for it anyway, so I have the battery coming from Newegg.
Woohoo!!
stuartv said:
So, just FYI, there's a kit with a video on how to do it here:
http://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_G...eplacement_Kit_p/samsung galaxy note 10.1.htm
That kit is $50.
But, Newegg has just the OEM battery for $33 (w/free shipping).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0890RC4649
The "kit" only adds the plastic tool for prying open the casing, and maybe a jeweler's screwdriver. I have that stuff and couldn't see spending $17 plus whatever the shipping would be for it anyway, so I have the battery coming from Newegg.
Woohoo!!
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Let us know how it works out for you and if it is as easy as the video makes it look.
This is really good to know. I used to be a tech whore and had to have the latest and greatest of whatever, so if a battery was heading south I didn't really care because I never had a device long enough for it to matter.
I'm a bit more pragmatic these days though, and hang on to my devices longer, most likely because I just haven't seen anything compelling enough to upgrade to. When I saw the S4 and 2014 10.1 I was just like meh... marginal upgrades in my opinion. Still waiting for something to really knock my socks off
I'm still really digging my Note and want to keep it around. Thanks a ton for the info!
I finally got around to replacing my battery. I put in a new OEM Samsung one from Newegg.
The procedure was pretty much just like it was shown in that video on the NewPower99 site. I did the whole thing just using a set of jeweler's screwdrivers. A flat head for helping get the trim off and then a Phillips for the screws.
A couple of points:
- getting that first piece of trim off was, ummm, interesting. But, it finally came off, just starting from one end, and without getting boogered up from prying it with the flat head screwdriver. However, I think I got lucky, so don't be surprised if you try it and do booger it up a little.
- Once the top and sides of the back are pried/popped loose, the bottom comes off by lifting the back up and pulling away, from the top.
- Similarly, to put the back on again, slip the bottom into place by inserting the little hooks at a roughly 45 degree angle. Get ALL the hooks on the bottom in place before you start popping the sides down. Then pop the top in last.
- the ribbon cable connectors were also ... interesting. Maybe I should have rewatched that video before I did this. A magnifying glass probably would have helped. There are little flip-up bars on each connector to release each cable. I didn't really figure that out and ended up just pulling each of the ribbon cables (except the smallest one) loose without properly releasing them. I didn't figure out how they're really supposed to work until I tried to put them back together. For each one, you just flip up a little black bar that goes all the way across each connector. Then insert the ribbon edge and flip the black bar back down.
- I removed/replaced the battery without undoing the smallest ribbon cable. I wasn't sure how to get it loose and I was afraid of breaking something.
- After I got it all back together, it was working fine for web browsing, and running SpeedTest, but my email wouldn't connect and Facebook didn't work. I finally realized that the system clock was set correctly, but the system date had reverted to something like January 1, 2012. I manually set the date and then everything worked fine.
The only thing I don't really know now is if it's actually lasting longer on a charge that it did before. Too soon to tell yet.
Quick update:
It seems that my "new" battery doesn't last any longer than my original battery. I use Battery Monitor Widget and the original battery showed to have 5900mAh of measured capacity. The new battery only has 5800! I am in the process of arranging to return it and get a replacement. I suspect that the one I got was of old manufacture and has lost capacity just from sitting on a shelf. I will update that thread once I have obtained some kind of resolution.
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Quick update:
It seems that my "new" battery doesn't last any longer than my original battery. I use Battery Monitor Widget and the original battery showed to have 5900mAh of measured capacity. The new battery only has 5800! I am in the process of arranging to return it and get a replacement. I suspect that the one I got was of old manufacture and has lost capacity just from sitting on a shelf. I will update that thread once I have obtained some kind of resolution.
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When you get a new battery make sure you know the date code of the battery. They go bad whether they are in use or setting on the shelf.
stuartv said:
Quick update:
It seems that my "new" battery doesn't last any longer than my original battery. I use Battery Monitor Widget and the original battery showed to have 5900mAh of measured capacity. The new battery only has 5800! I am in the process of arranging to return it and get a replacement. I suspect that the one I got was of old manufacture and has lost capacity just from sitting on a shelf. I will update that thread once I have obtained some kind of resolution.
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5900 original capacity? Isn't it suppose to be 7000. At least for me that app shows 7000. I have also used my Gnote10.1 for about 1,5 years now and the battery still lasts as good as before, which is awesome in my mind.
stuartv said:
Quick update:
It seems that my "new" battery doesn't last any longer than my original battery. I use Battery Monitor Widget and the original battery showed to have 5900mAh of measured capacity. The new battery only has 5800! I am in the process of arranging to return it and get a replacement. I suspect that the one I got was of old manufacture and has lost capacity just from sitting on a shelf. I will update that thread once I have obtained some kind of resolution.
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Important things to do when you change the battery:
Clear battery cache (need root)
Do a several time charge cycles
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Only clear battery cache right after fully charge then unplug from charger.
3 - 4 charge cycle would be enough (1 charge cycle = 0% to 100%)
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When you get a new battery make sure you know the date code of the battery. They go bad whether they are in use or setting on the shelf.
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I know they go bad. But, where do I find the date code and how do I interpret it?
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5900 original capacity? Isn't it suppose to be 7000. At least for me that app shows 7000. I have also used my Gnote10.1 for about 1,5 years now and the battery still lasts as good as before, which is awesome in my mind.
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Sorry I wasn't clear. My original battery which is now around 18 months old, was showing 5900 mAh capacity when I took it out. I.e. now that it's 18 months old. And the new battery shows even less capacity.
This is after 2 weeks of regular usage and several full charging cycles.
d4rkkn16ht said:
Important things to do when you change the battery:
Clear battery cache (need root)
Do a several time charge cycles
Note:
Only clear battery cache right after fully charge then unplug from charger.
3 - 4 charge cycle would be enough (1 charge cycle = 0% to 100%)
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I did not clear the battery stats. I am rooted. I have had the new battery installed for about 2 weeks now and have had several full charging cycles. 6 or more.
But, if the new battery really had 7000 mAh capacity (or anywhere near that), even without clearing my stats, they should be trending upwards, right, not down?
Battery stat related problems have swarmed this forum since the dawn of android.
Many complained about lower battery life after switching ROMs & batteries.
Try 1 more cycle (deplete the battery then fully charge) then delete the battery stat & unplug.
Use the unit for your daily routines for several days & check again if the battery performance still go south.
FYI,my N8000 is around 1 year now & I've "abused" it almost everyday with very heavy usage (plenty syncs,fullday internet 3G &/or WiFi,Online & Offline games,music, Bluetooth,web browsing,eBook readings,notes taking & many more) that require me to charge twice a day.
Occasionally I let it rest to check the battery performance & I still get 14 - 18 hours from a single charge with still heavy internet usage for plenty syncs & web browsing only.
I'm looking forward to buy a replacement battery if this one is out of juice.
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I know they go bad. But, where do I find the date code and how do I interpret it?
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Got a 700mah off ebay and just ask the seller. The date code should be on the bat, just google battery date codes, their are many. It is worth the effort to get a good one.
Latest update: the Newegg partner that actually supplied the battery has sent me a replacement. The date on it is from 2011. I looked at my original Note battery that I took out and it is dated 2012!
I emailed the seller back and told them this replacement battery is not acceptable either and asked if they can actually supply me one of recent manufacture. They are checking and are supposed to get back to me by tomorrow.
Oh, and I did a full charge and wiped battery stats last week. It's had 2 or 3 full charge cycles and the "new" battery is still only showing around 5900 mAh capacity.
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Oh, and I did a full charge and wiped battery stats last week. It's had 2 or 3 full charge cycles and the "new" battery is still only showing around 5900 mAh capacity.
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Then you got a broken battery
stuartv said:
Oh, and I did a full charge and wiped battery stats last week. It's had 2 or 3 full charge cycles and the "new" battery is still only showing around 5900 mAh capacity.
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Dispite the 5900, how long does a charge last.
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Dispite the 5900, how long does a charge last.
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Well, it seems to last about the same as the original battery that I used for a year and a half. Which means I have to put it on a charger every other night or it will day before the next night. When my tablet was new (and I was really hammering the usage back then), I could normally go 3 or 4 days between charges.
Newegg just got back to me with this:
Okay sorry for the delay. But finally our vendor got back to us. The items are new. They may be old due to the year. Only because the tablets for the tab 10.1 released in 2011. Tab 2 10.1 and Note 10.1 released in 2012. The batteries are new. They were just not used. During the the time the tablets was released. The batteries were manufactured. They wouldnt be making new batteries. Since Samsung comes out with new tablets to make new batteries. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns and I will be more than happy to help Thank you and have a wonderful day!
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So, they are saying that Samsung made all the replacement batteries for these tablets back when they manufactured the tablets themselves and they are not making new batteries for it any more. Effing LAME!
Is there a trusted source for this? I can't buy it from LG or google...but would like to replace my Nexus 5 battery. I'm charging the phone like 3-4 times/day.
search xda-devs
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Is there a trusted source for this? I can't buy it from LG or google...but would like to replace my Nexus 5 battery. I'm charging the phone like 3-4 times/day.
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You can find all the proper LG part numbers in the D820 service manual, plus, it has the proper steps to dis-assemble the Nexus 5 so you don't break anything.
EAC62078701 is the part number to search for.
Read the last 20 or so pages for part numbers and di-assembly instructions(with color pictures!).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/service-manual-d821-t2791303
This is where i order mine before few days
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00MEURADO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1419814355&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
I contact the sellers and he assure me that their supply is directly from lg service.
Hi,
I have two questions...is there a trusted US reseller of the genuine LG battery. The one above is from the UK.
Also...I attached the GSAM captures...does this look normal for nexus 5? My battery is being drained very quickly lately. Maybe I need to do a factory reset?
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Hi,
I have two questions...is there a trusted US reseller of the genuine LG battery. The one above is from the UK.
Also...I attached the GSAM captures...does this look normal for nexus 5? My battery is being drained very quickly lately. Maybe I need to do a factory reset?
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2 hours screen on, half battery used? Yeah could be normal. Hard to say really.
Me too.....
I am looking for this, too. My battery is really messed up. I've tried recalibrating, factory reset, different ROMs, complete stock, etc. I'm getting 3 hrs. TOTAL before having to charge and it'll hit 25% and die almost immediately after that. I power back on and I'm at 3% (!). I'm trying the Zerolemon battery case to see if that gets me through the next few months until I can possibly upgrade or get another Nexus 5.
Excellent
kojoti2 said:
This is where i order mine before few days
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00MEURADO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1419814355&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
I contact the sellers and he assure me that their supply is directly from lg service.
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I've spent the past few days looking for a genuine battery (in the UK). I've actually spent about 2 weeks swapping ROM's around from 4.4 to 5.0.1. Turns out Lollipop is some of my problem but even on 4.4 I'm getting pretty bad life.
All the other batteries I could find were about half the price but the reviews said they were fakes. I'll try this one.
OEM battery is only about $10 or $15, so price alone won't tell you if it's genuine or not.
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OEM battery is only about $10 or $15, so price alone won't tell you if it's genuine or not.
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I can't argue with that!
When I searched on amazon.co.uk for OEM Nexus 5 battery, I found a few for only about £10 but the reivews made it clear that they were not really LG batteries. I couldn't find the link that the poster gave (probably because it doesn't have OEM in it). I've no reason to believe it is more genuine other than the poster contacted them and they assured him. So I ordered it and it looks very genuine so far - some that are sold as OEM don't even have "LG" written on them!
I'll install it soon and see if my battery life improves and come back here and also write an amazon review - it's the only way for people to see what's good or not.
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I can't argue with that!
When I searched on amazon.co.uk for OEM Nexus 5 battery, I found a few for only about £10 but the reivews made it clear that they were not really LG batteries. I couldn't find the link that the poster gave (probably because it doesn't have OEM in it). I've no reason to believe it is more genuine other than the poster contacted them and they assured him. So I ordered it and it looks very genuine so far - some that are sold as OEM don't even have "LG" written on them!
I'll install it soon and see if my battery life improves and come back here and also write an amazon review - it's the only way for people to see what's good or not.
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Resellers will then mark those up to whatever price they want so it's really a crap shoot out there. Best of luck with your replacement and let us know the results.
I would like to ask all the people on this forum that have replaces their battery in the Nexus 5 to post some of their impressions about the "new" battery, this thread looks like the perfect place to do this.
I will start:
- I had to replace my battery because it became very bloated/swollen, so much that on one side the back case was lifted 1 mm, and
the phone felt a little bit heavier. Also the battery would not last even an hour, the phone closing on it's own with the battery showing 50-70 %,
and after reset showing <10%, then it would magically charge itself back to 50%
- So I bought a new one from ebay: "http://www.ebay.com/itm/361075010454", the guy had positive reviews and many people got this item
- It arrived in perfect state, at least visually, it had part number "EAC62078701" like all the replacement batteries online, the seller assured me it was original and new from LG. Proof that it was new could be that the connector ribbon was straight and not folded in any way, so it could not have been used in a phone before. The inscriptions on it seemed original, but when I scanned the barcode from the lower-left side it decoded a different date
than the one written on it over the P/N, so no match, but what does this mean ?
- I put it into the phone and now it acts "normally", meaning that it goes from 100% all the way to 0% without the phone closing itself
- Charging also seems normal, taking about 2,5 hours to fully charge with the LG WCP-300 wireless charger
- But this is were the problems start, with the new battery I cannot get more than 2 - 2,5 hours of SOT no matter what I do. I've tried 4.4.4, L preview, 5.0, 5.0.1, even cm11, with full wipes and no restores, but it's the same, as soon as the screen in on, the battery drains like crazy, I lose 15% battery in 10 minutes of playing Temple Run 2, which is not even such a demanding game. Totally unacceptable, when the phone was new, I used to get 4-5 hours of SOT, now I don't even get half that.
This is why I'd like to get other people's impressions about a replacement battery.
Maybe this replacement battery is bad, I but I don't want to get another one without proof that other replacement batteries can get 4 hours of SOT with stock Lollipop.
Thank you.
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This is why I'd like to get other people's impressions about a replacement battery.
Maybe this replacement battery is bad, I but I don't want to get another one without proof that other replacement batteries can get 4 hours of SOT with stock Lollipop.
Thank you.
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With all bells and whistles I get 3- 3.5h SOT . LTE at all times , location on , brightness around 15%. 4 to 5h on 3g with location off and no music.
The only way to be sure if it's the battery is to either compare it with another battery in your phone or do a controlled discharge .
That would involve taking it out , wiring it to a constant current sink and timing how long it takes until it reaches cut-off voltage. Since either buying a current sink or building one will cost you more than 15 bucks I'd say just look for another battery if you really hate the current SOT .
Best of luck!!! Had the same issue a few days ago when I plugged my N5 to the charger of my sisters tablet, which is obviously one of those cheap Made in China tablets,
and the voltage totally killed the battery in my phone, so didnt really feel like those sellers where worth my trust, so went to FB and got in the N5 fan page of my country, so there was a guy who had one with a broken screen and was nice enough to sell me his battery, this is basically your best shot, asking around if you REEEEAAALLY want a original one, since LG dont sell them to the public
Temperature of replacement Nexus 5 battery
Hi,
Sorry to bother you, but could you tell me if your replacement Nexus 5 battery has a varies temperature?
I mean if the temperature goes up to 35 Celsius when it's charging or you're playing games, of if it goes down to 25 when it's idle.
Because my replacement battery always stays at 29 degrees Celsius, no matter how I use the phone.
I think mine might be bad, but I want to check with someone else before buying another one.
Thanks.
Update - I replaced it a few days ago (using the amazon.co.uk link given previously) and it has solved my issues. I played a video in a loop on full brightness and got almost double what I had before. General usage seems much better too.
So why did I need a new one after just a year? I think my old one was damaged by overheating on cheap wireless charger. My new charger doesn't make the phone get so hot. I used the old one for about a year and lost about 50% capacity. I thought they must all do that so I didn't worry. I'm told heat can damage the battery.
The temperature is fine - about room temp unless I use it a lot.
It's normal - a battery loses about 30% of its capacity after 400 cycles.
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It's normal - a battery loses about 30% of its capacity after 400 cycles.
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I guess you got that from something like "table 2" on this page -
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
That's showing a 30% loss on 300-500 cycles assuming the battery was right down to 0%. I didn't know that.
However, I lost 50% and would not have been charging from 0% so it seems worse than average. The next paragraph on that page talks about degradation due to heat. That would explain why mine was so bad.
I'm still surprised though as I've had a few smart phones and never noticed even 30%. I had my Motorola Defy for 2 years as my main phone and then 2 years as a spare and it seemed fine. I suppose you don't notice a gradual loss so presumably I just wasn't noticing.
Not all batteries are made the same - my very old motorola (w388 , 10 years old) started out with around 7 days battery life . Now it only lasts about 3 days so ~60% loss.
My desire x lost around 30% capacity in 2 years - so around 900 charging cycles. My S3 on the other side ... capacity was down to 50% after 200 charging cycles. I've checked most of the with a controlled discharge on a current sink so it should be about 3% off .
So i finally replace my battery and miracle happen phone charge normally not in 40 minutes, there is no battery jump and fall during reboot, no enormous drain etc. So if you have issue as described above and changing roms, kernels and go back to kitkat didn't help change your battery.
Just got a battery from eBay... Looks authentic, but doesn't charge.. Just stays at 0%...
Probably will have to exchange... Is there a way to tell if an LG battery is authentic??
Edit: Well the seller has quickly refunded me and I didn't even have to send back the battery. Told him it wouldn't charge and is stuck at 0%.. He insisted he would just send out a new one, but I asked for a refund instead.
Already ordered a new one from etradesupply, should be here within a few days..
I love my Note 4 and the battery life is way better on the stock battery than plenty of other phones but there are times I need to run longer between charges and so I picked up an Anker 6400 MAH extended battery currently $26.99 through their power user program. I had the Anker 7200 MAH with my Galaxy S3 so I was hoping for another great experience. Similar to when I reviewed the 7200 I will use the following apps to accellerate testing to a resonable timeframe and then do a real time test:
1) battery drain
2) Gsam battery monitor
Unfortunately there was no included case so I ended up ordering the hyperion tpu case which really is not much more than a skin case but there are no Seidio or other extended battery cases right now. With the included cover on the phone the back is a little slicker than I like and I would be concerned that I might send it flying pulling it out of my pocket, something to keep in mind. So first, here are some pix
So in checking the battery is around 1.8 oz more and it does make the phone bigger. When I got it, there was around 56% battery so I immediately threw it on the quick charger and in an hour it was full.
I put on the battery drain around 730PM and around 1:43 it was depleted, put it back on the samsung charger and it was back to full before between 3 and 4 am. It almost seemed to charge faster than the OEM battery with no rounding of the charging curve at all.
during the accelerated discharge it got around 6:15 hr at full brightness with everything, wifi, bluetooth ect running as well.
So next I put it to normal use. As I mentioned in OP the case is slippery so I had it sitting on my desk while working rather than in my pocket. It got around 3+ hours a day of use and ended up with 7:15 of screen on time, 20 hrs of wifi and 34 of 4G. The graph shows a break, at that point I got my new 128GB micro sd card and the phone shut off while I switched it and i did not initially realize it. when i turned the phone back on the charge went up. That did not happen then next time I had to reboot but that is why it says 104%. The reason the graph says 3 days is because it is going from the last time a battery was charged full. and since I had a standard battery on for a day or so it added that time in but you can see monday morning to wednesday afternoon. For the period from 5% to 1%, it ran over an hour and I was using the screen continuously at that point. but it doesn't appear to be like the ZL that runs for a day at 1%. What I want this battery for is travelling so I don't have to dig my external battery up or even carry it on every trip, and with 7+ hrs of screen I will be able to get to either coast and still have enough battery for navigating once I get there.
Sir. Where is the Review???
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So next I put it to normal use. As I mentioned in OP the case is slippery so I had it sitting on my desk while working rather than in my pocket. It got around 3+ hours a day of use and ended up with 7:15 of screen on time, 20 hrs of wifi and 34 of 4G. The graph shows a break, at that point I got my new 128GB micro sd card and the phone shut off while I switched it and i did not initially realize it. when i turned the phone back on the charge went up. That did not happen then next time I had to reboot but that is why it says 104%. The reason the graph says 3 days is because it is going from the last time a battery was charged full. and since I had a standard battery on for a day or so it added that time in but you can see monday morning to wednesday afternoon. For the period from 5% to 1%, it ran over an hour and I was using the screen continuously at that point. but it doesn't appear to be like the ZL that runs for a day at 1%. What I want this battery for is travelling so I don't have to dig my external battery up or even carry it on every trip, and with 7+ hrs of screen I will be able to get to either coast and still have enough battery for navigating once I get there.
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very nice, thank you for all the info provided, one question and I know its been discussed before lol, but do u know which is the biggest or better battery without making the phone too bulky? like a bigger battery I can use with the stock cover, thanks in advance, cheers:fingers-crossed:
yoniinfante said:
very nice, thank you for all the info provided, one question and I know its been discussed before lol, but do u know which is the biggest or better battery without making the phone too bulky? like a bigger battery I can use with the stock cover, thanks in advance, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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I haven't seen any batteries with higher capacity that fit the stock cover.
yoniinfante said:
very nice, thank you for all the info provided, one question and I know its been discussed before lol, but do u know which is the biggest or better battery without making the phone too bulky? like a bigger battery I can use with the stock cover, thanks in advance, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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one other thing, i did notice that the battery states it is compatible with Verizon, AT&T, and T-MO not sure why sprint is not listed but in case you have a sprint phone, i'd check with Anker before buying just in case.
cnlson said:
one other thing, i did notice that the battery states it is compatible with Verizon, AT&T, and T-MO not sure why sprint is not listed but in case you have a sprint phone, i'd check with Anker before buying just in case.
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well thanks but i have the N910C unlocked with Cricket Wireless, cheers:fingers-crossed:
I think most of us had heard that Moto Z has a erratic/bizarrre/high batery drain in one or another way.
For my case it's a broken battery and i think it affect entire battery lots but Moto never accept and recall its.
I will share my experience.
According to this topic https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z/Moto-Z-extreme-battery-drain-after-7-1-1-update/td-p/3758100.
There is 100+ pages and numerous people affect by this issue around the world.
Me live Thailand. My Moto Z model is XT1650-03, Dual SIM.
I bought a second hand phone. It's come with Nougat 7.1.1
My previous phone is Xiaomi Mi4C that has a SOT around 3-4 hour [with 3000 mAh]
So when i got Moto Z. SOT is aound 3-4 hours. with 2600 mAh I think it normal. [My use is texting LINE, internet, on WIFI most of the time]
After 2 month I got update to Oreo.
I notice battery is drop fast than normal. I use better batery stat and waklock detector to nail down the cause.
But all is normal. Phone is almost in deep sleep. when use battery is drain aound 4-5%/Hr or more.
Then i start to google and found above topic and similar in another website.
Moto web moderator usuallly suggest these method
1. If happen after update please clear cache through Recovery
2. Do a baterry calibration [force restart then use turbo power supply to chardge till 100%, leave it overnight]
3. If above fail do a factory rest.
I try method 1. and fail
When use method 2 . It notice a weired battery percentage
- before force restart no matter % of battery when restart % will suddenly drop [e.g. 85-->45, 90-->2]
- this make me more curious
- after charge with turbo power adaptor to 100% and leave overnight. I try to force restart again. guess what the battery % is suddenly drop again .
- after try many time i come to conclude that "IT'S NOT A SOFTWARE. IT'S A HEARWARE ISSUE"
I go to Moto service center and tell them abou tthis battey drain.
They smile and said that "This happen frequenly. It's a battery defect"
My phone still under warranty so it's free.
FYI : if out of warranty cost is around 40$ [PS. In thailand] not too pricy for battey+labor cost [this phone is hardly to replace battery by yourself]
With new battery Moto Z is a monster in SOT. I got SOT 4 Hrs. with remain 45 % battery. With my usage i think 7-8 Hrs. is possible.
To sum up
Those who face a erratic/bizarrre/high batery drain.
Please try to do battery calibration first. But if you find suddenly drop in battery % after force restart. It's a broken battery.
Go to Moto service center ASAP.
No software update can fix this.
For 7.1.1 update that emerg this issue.
In my humble opinion i think no software can do damage to battery. In worst case, poor sotware will cuase huge waklock and baterry drain but not suddenly drop after restart.
It's maybe coincidence that this 7.1.1 update come out around the time that defect battery show the sign.
For further battery save up.
I found that in Oreo. without Root we can limit background activity.[this look like function in MIUI rom]
App that optimize for Oreo doesn't has this function.
So it's for old gen app that developer didn't update their code.
[e.g. LINE , XDA labs, Pinterest, Google play service, Google pay store]
Visit these website for How to with picture
http://visihow.com/Manage_Battery_Performance_on_Android_Oreo
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
doujinsinner said:
I think most of us had heard that Moto Z has a erratic/bizarrre/high batery drain in one or another way.
For my case it's a broken battery and i think it affect entire battery lots but Moto never accept and recall its.
I will share my experience.
According to this topic https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z/Moto-Z-extreme-battery-drain-after-7-1-1-update/td-p/3758100.
There is 100+ pages and numerous people affect by this issue around the world.
Me live Thailand. My Moto Z model is XT1650-03, Dual SIM.
I bought a second hand phone. It's come with Nougat 7.1.1
My previous phone is Xiaomi Mi4C that has a SOT around 3-4 hour [with 3000 mAh]
So when i got Moto Z. SOT is aound 3-4 hours. with 2600 mAh I think it normal. [My use is texting LINE, internet, on WIFI most of the time]
After 2 month I got update to Oreo.
I notice battery is drop fast than normal. I use better batery stat and waklock detector to nail down the cause.
But all is normal. Phone is almost in deep sleep. when use battery is drain aound 4-5%/Hr or more.
Then i start to google and found above topic and similar in another website.
Moto web moderator usuallly suggest these method
1. If happen after update please clear cache through Recovery
2. Do a baterry calibration [force restart then use turbo power supply to chardge till 100%, leave it overnight]
3. If above fail do a factory rest.
I try method 1. and fail
When use method 2 . It notice a weired battery percentage
- before force restart no matter % of battery when restart % will suddenly drop [e.g. 85-->45, 90-->2]
- this make me more curious
- after charge with turbo power adaptor to 100% and leave overnight. I try to force restart again. guess what the battery % is suddenly drop again .
- after try many time i come to conclude that "IT'S NOT A SOFTWARE. IT'S A HEARWARE ISSUE"
I go to Moto service center and tell them abou tthis battey drain.
They smile and said that "This happen frequenly. It's a battery defect"
My phone still under warranty so it's free.
FYI : if out of warranty cost is around 40$ [PS. In thailand] not too pricy for battey+labor cost [this phone is hardly to replace battery by yourself]
With new battery Moto Z is a monster in SOT. I got SOT 4 Hrs. with remain 45 % battery. With my usage i think 7-8 Hrs. is possible.
To sum up
Those who face a erratic/bizarrre/high batery drain.
Please try to do battery calibration first. But if you find suddenly drop in battery % after force restart. It's a broken battery.
Go to Moto service center ASAP.
No software update can fix this.
For 7.1.1 update that emerg this issue.
In my humble opinion i think no software can do damage to battery. In worst case, poor sotware will cuase huge waklock and baterry drain but not suddenly drop after restart.
It's maybe coincidence that this 7.1.1 update come out around the time that defect battery show the sign.
For further battery save up.
I found that in Oreo. without Root we can limit background activity.[this look like function in MIUI rom]
App that optimize for Oreo doesn't has this function.
So it's for old gen app that developer didn't update their code.
[e.g. LINE , XDA labs, Pinterest, Google play service, Google pay store]
Visit these website for How to with picture
http://visihow.com/Manage_Battery_Performance_on_Android_Oreo
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
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I just got a moto z and today I am seeing this exact same problem. i'm playing around with it now doing some other ways of calibrating. I am on Oreo and wondering if Nougat would be more battery friendly on these phones ?
Android version doesn't relate with this problem.
If you familiar with ADB. You can install Better battery stat and Wakelock detector without root. To identify app and process that consume battery.
For easy way. Android battery stat in setting is informative enough to this task.
You can summary all battery % lost and compare to your remaining battery. If your battery isn't broke. This value should be linear.
In my case there is missing % more than 20%
doujinsinner said:
Android version doesn't relate with this problem.
If you familiar with ADB. You can install Better battery stat and Wakelock detector without root. To identify app and process that consume battery.
For easy way. Android battery stat in setting is informative enough to this task.
You can summary all battery % lost and compare to your remaining battery. If your battery isn't broke. This value should be linear.
In my case there is missing % more than 20%
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Yeah I am familiar with adb. But my problem is that, at this time anyhow, is that when I reboot I lose like 30% battery or something stupid which makes me think software. But after doing alot more reading at this point it would seem like it's a defective battery. That would be a first for me to have an android phone with a defective battery. So that's why at this point I'm just thinking software for the most part. Mainly cause i bricked my device when I tried to root it with oreo. I'm trying to downgrade now which I have done but now having modem issues.
I have a moto z too and i did the force restart and then the battery dropped from 38 to 6% i did it again and got up to 15 y did it again and stays in 6%, did it again and stays on six then un five and down, always with my usage, i got 3:40 at max of sot, and about 2 minutes-3, per % of battery, do you think is software or i shoud go to replace the battery
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I have a moto z too and i did the force restart and then the battery dropped from 38 to 6% i did it again and got up to 15 y did it again and stays in 6%, did it again and stays on six then un five and down, always with my usage, i got 3:40 at max of sot, and about 2 minutes-3, per % of battery, do you think is software or i shoud go to replace the battery
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You have situation similar to me.
If you have warranty or financial isn't issue, don't hesitate to try replace battery.
You know this is actually quite funny to me. I had three replacement phones for this issue. I contacted Motorola and complained like crazy they charged me holding fees and crap till they got my defective model. Weirdest thing, every model had different battery life and performance. One model actually fried chargers one by one. So irritating, I thought Motorola was a good company. I told them, biggest issue I've had with phones in the past was them cracking, so I bought a shatter proof phone. Well whats the point of having a shatter proof display if I go through three of them in a year for faulty batteries?
Also it took about my 10th phone call for me to be transferred to someone that actually spoke proper English........
They couldn't even pronounce my name. My name is Adam....... (Aedum) lol
Called a supervisor, still couldn't pronounce my name...
After begging to speak to a manager for like an hr strait and being transferred to more people who could not speak proper English.
The last guy said ill transfer you to my manager in another building. The second he answered the phone I asked if they were even in the same country, nope lol. Regardless, it was weird, once I had made it to this person he was offering to send me free things, did the last phone replacement without a holding fee, etc.
Why am I still ranting.........
Point is, I used to love Motorola.
I do not anymore for this reason specifically lol.
Edit: Never guess what happened, my current Moto z force stopped charging.
I am never buying a Moto phone again.
4 out of 4 Motorola phones.....
Gonna take it apart now lol
I'm doubting my battery now as well. I've even factory reset and still have a big issue.
Standby time is ok, but with the screen on, my battery level drops like a rock. Almost 1% per minute. So I'd be lucky to get about an hour and a half or so on a full charge. (Of screen time) And that's not gaming or anything else battery intensive. Mostly just XDA Labs.
So after factory resetting and seeing no change, I'm convinced my battery itself is messed up. Luckily I have the Turbo power battery mod, so I can get through a day. But I'll be phone shopping soon.
Not going to be bitter, will probably get a Z3. Too many mods to buy anything else. Plus I've had the Moto X, N6, Moto Z and my wife has Z2 Play, so I'm a Moto fan! All good phones. This battery thing is my first issue.
I've had problems with my battery too. After 5 or 6 hours of a complete recharge, a new charge was needed. So I've bought a new one on Ebay and received yesterday.
Now, after replacement, my Moto Z is working absolutely fine, just like when was brand new. Today I've used some mods. Here in Brazil we have a digital TV mod with battery, but the recharging was off to test the new battery. Also play music for almost 2 hours with Moto Speaker, that doesn't have a internal battery.
And now, 11 hours after last charging there's 36% remaining, with 6 hours estimated.
So I really recommend replace the battery.
@Tlucent could you say me further information about the battery replacement?
I bought a Moto Z from LightInTheBox and I don't received yet, but I read some comments about this issue. When and if I have this issue I need know how resolve.
What the model/reference of battery do you bought?
The replacement is easy and trusted?
Thanks
Motorola worst support
I've got the same problem and sent my phone for repair after contact with Moto support and unsuccessful re-calibration of the battery. Few days later I got a reply that my phone wouldn't be repaired according to the warranty conditions because the screen glass has a small crack and this is the ostensible reason for the battery failure.
So all I have to say is GOOD BUY MOTOROLA!
Finally I have sent my motoZ for battery replacement last month.
It is working well now, battery can survive around half day (~10hrs) for my usage,
or ~5hrs in heavy use (nearly nonstop web, IM text, videos)
However since it is already out of warranty, it cost 60 bucks from local dealer.
If you find your phone (any) battery drain, standby and usage hrs shortened,
and, battery level dropped (alot) after power off then On,
that means the battery is already EOL (end-of-life).
The so-called recalilbate is usless !
Do factory-reset is meaningless !!!
That was the worst battery I have even seen, it just last for a year.
Some said the battery is from LG, holy ~
On ebay you can find the battery (GV30) for around $10,
but I do not recommend replace it yourselves.
Here are some tips to prolong Li-ion battery.
1. charge it whenever you can!
2. do not use up till 0% if possible, try charge it before it reach 40%
3. try charge it till 80% then unplug charger, this will extend its cycle life by not to wear out its recharge cycle too soon!
4. try keep your phone cool, high temperature will help chemical form, means shorten its life.
The problem is the battery cell's chemistry. it is crap. I've used my Z for about 9 months and now it is less than half capacity according to Accubattery and power can be cut if I do something intensive below 50%. Same thing had happened to my old midrange Moto G4. Stay away from Motorola phones.
I've recently had more than enough out of my Z2 play. Since day one it's lagged and froze often, even after wipes, resets and even reflashing the factory firmware. I think I just got a lemon, but didn't get it in before warranty expired.
My Z has been in a drawer all this time, with a fried battery. It even was shutting down at about 60 percent, which took about 30 minutes of screen time to get to from 100. So definitely my battery was no good.
So, instead of living with the awful Z2 I got, and let the warranty expire on, I'm getting my Z's battery replaced and the camera glass replaced. (it was scratched up bad.) For not much at all. 7 bucks for the battery and glass. Lol
I'm excited to get back on my Z! It was better than the Z2 anyway, even with none of my Z2 issues. My fingers are crossed that my battery life will go back to how it was when I first got my Z. That and the Turbo Power mod are all the battery life I need. :good:
same battery issue with my moto z ( one Yr old) , finally I have sent my moto Z for battery replacement yesterday ..
Darth said:
I've recently had more than enough out of my Z2 play. Since day one it's lagged and froze often, even after wipes, resets and even reflashing the factory firmware. I think I just got a lemon, but didn't get it in before warranty expired.
My Z has been in a drawer all this time, with a fried battery. It even was shutting down at about 60 percent, which took about 30 minutes of screen time to get to from 100. So definitely my battery was no good.
So, instead of living with the awful Z2 I got, and let the warranty expire on, I'm getting my Z's battery replaced and the camera glass replaced. (it was scratched up bad.) For not much at all. 7 bucks for the battery and glass. Lol
I'm excited to get back on my Z! It was better than the Z2 anyway, even with none of my Z2 issues. My fingers are crossed that my battery life will go back to how it was when I first got my Z. That and the Turbo Power mod are all the battery life I need. :good:
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where did you get the battery and glass for 7$ from?
I do not recommend more motorola among my friends and family
I have a Motorola Moto Maxx with about 3 years in use and its battery still works, with less capacity, but it does.
And I have a Moto Z XT1650-3, this with 11 months in use started with the known problem of the battery, component trash!
I have the Moto mod battery, and so I used it for about two more weeks since the internal battery problem started.
The internal battery 100% charge, and restart the device and the battery is already 30%, I connect it again to load and in a few minutes reaches 100% and we know what happens if I disconnect and restart.
The moto mod gives some autonomy, but once it runs out, or the internal battery has been completely discharged, there is no way that the device turns on again, until the charger is connected.
So, knowing that Lenovo does not sell this battery, I decided to take the risk of separating the screen to extract the damaged battery.
And already installed the generic battery that I bought (with the motorola logos) the device is functional again, the load remains decent, and ... only a small problem XD the generic battery is fatter than the original, so my screen in the lower area of the touch remains detached around almost 1 mm, and this is risky because in a bad move something can get stuck and detach the screen.
These days I will buy a second battery, but genuine, removal of damaged equipment, says the seller.
I leave you images of what the fake motorola battery looks like and the original battery photo.
Regards!
Same bad health battery here! Moto Z doing crazy things with the battery percentage.
I need to know if the brand new batteries are still erratic after some months or Motorola knows the issue and provides good-health ones? Is it worth it?
for those who replaced the battery, did they use original or alternative battery?
tsoump said:
Same bad health battery here! Moto Z doing crazy things with the battery percentage.
I need to know if the brand new batteries are still erratic after some months or Motorola knows the issue and provides good-health ones? Is it worth it?
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My replace original battery from Moto service center die in 6 month