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Hey All,
Today I decided to look into a larger capacity battery for my DZ NAM, and I took a look at my old Touch Pro 2...
The Battery fits quite well, its 1500mAh as opposed to the 1300 with the DZ.
I had to trim out the plastic on the TP2 battery, and then place it in upside down.
The cover pops up slightly after the battery is in, nothing that would bother you lots, in other words its not as flush as the original DZ battery.
I am going to use it to swap out between my 2 batteries.
Hope this helps, not bad for a free battery in my case
Great news !!
I have also a BA-S390 from my old Touch Pro 2... I'll try this tonight !
When you charge the battery inside the phone is it getting hotter or colder than the original DZ battery ?
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
Lennyuk said:
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
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Len,
To get 2.5 days out of a smartphone you must firstly not be overclocking at all, and secondly you must not have used it one bit.
2.5 days = total non usage
Even the iphone4 with its powersaving a4 chip does not get 2.5 days, unless you dont touch the beast.
And i like to generally use my phone
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Len,
To get 2.5 days out of a smartphone you must firstly not be overclocking at all, and secondly you must not have used it one bit.
2.5 days = total non usage
Even the iphone4 with its powersaving a4 chip does not get 2.5 days, unless you dont touch the beast.
And i like to generally use my phone
JD
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Actually I am overclocked to 1.4ghz and underclocked for screen off.
You are right, I hardly touched the phone at all, I did need it as an alarm twice in the time I was without a charger. (I was forced into this situation by leaving my charger at work)
But it shows that with no use the phone only loses 1% a day.
I generally lose about 2-4 percent an hour not in use. But my phone is sync'ed up to everything, lol
Sent from my HTC Desire Z Beast
Lennyuk said:
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
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Mine was down at 30% after exactly 48 hours.
Which is great, cause I did use it. Played Angry birds, sent sms and made a phonecall.
Lennyuk said:
I just got 2.5 days out of my stock Z battery and still had 60% left (granted didn't use it much).
I left my charger at work, and had a snow day yesterday.
I don't know what all the fuss about battery life is about.
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Who said anything about fuss?
I was pointing out that the TP2 battery works, and is larger capacity... I have a ton of reasons to have a second battery and would rather not spend an extra $40.
I travel lots... and I use my phone to watch tv on the plan.
Not sure about how hot the battery gets on charge, haven't used it much yet.
As for the original I get 2 days with moderate use.
Blesseld said:
Who said anything about fuss?
I was pointing out that the TP2 battery works, and is larger capacity... I have a ton of reasons to have a second battery and would rather not spend an extra $40.
I travel lots... and I use my phone to watch tv on the plan.
Not sure about how hot the battery gets on charge, haven't used it much yet.
As for the original I get 2 days with moderate use.
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that comment wasn't aimed at you
Just that there have been lots of complaints about battery life on this phone (and the desire HD)...those people obviously never had a Desire as the battery life on the Z and HD are loads better than the desire ever was.
agreed, I find the stock battery tollerable on my DZ
@Blesseld: i also have a tp2 battery lying around, so if you happen to charge it, i would be really thankful for any reports about the charging behavior...
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@Blesseld: i also have a tp2 battery lying around, so if you happen to charge it, i would be really thankful for any reports about the charging behavior...
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I'll do a little test tonight/tomorrow and report back.
Cheers
I have descended from tp2pro aswell, and must admit that I have used my old tp2 battery from the second day I had a DZ. I must admit I have 'trimmed' it so that it doesn't cause any bulge on the metal flap covering the batt compartment, and I can say that even though the old batt is 6 months old it performs well enough to get me through the whole working day. I do make a lot of calls a day, I keep I-net connection constantly on, and I never switch Bluetooth off....
I realize its a heavy load on the battery but afterall I got the fone to do its job (calls, emails, driving, gps, etc).
The battery lasts well into from 8am to 7pm (with my heavy usage) but must say that whenever I'm driving I will have fone charging, regardless of its power level.
Nevertheless, I have a spare battery at hand ( original DZ one) should the worst happen.
FYI, my daily batt stats is usually as follows: display 30percent, voice calls 35 percent, and remaining 35 percent spread somewhat evenly amongst remaining series that have to run in the background.
Unfortunately though, I haven't got enough experience with the original DZ battery, to give you a comparison.... remember I used it only for a day or two, when I was still getting used to the whole new world of android and DZ
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Does anyone have experience with the 1800mAh Mugen battery from the TP2 in the DZ? I'm tempted to go for that assuming it fits...?
I ordered this battery off eBay a few weeks ago from HK.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170700946395?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
I received the battery a little over a week ago. I immediately charged the battery overnight (at least 12 hour charge) and popped it in the morning. Throughout the day I normally; check my email, a few couple minute phone calls, some web browsing, updating apps through the market, maybe a few videos, and streaming music, and texting pretty much all day.
The battery seemed to be doing just as good as stock. Now after a few charge cycles I believe the battery is doing better.
I can easily get a day out of it on average.
Two days I was sick, so I just text a few times throughout the day and played a few games on the phone.. I got 48 hours out of the battery.
I tried killing the battery one day by watching videos, streaming music and playing games for maybe 6 hours and I still had about 25% left.
For only $6 shipped (it takes about 2 weeks to get from HK) I believe it is a good deal. I keep my stock battery charged as a backup, but so far haven't needed it. When I get home from work I normally still have 30 - 40% left and just throw it on the charger and take it off when I wake up.
It sure is nice not to have to worry about bringing a charger everywhere I go.
I am really surprised that the 450mAh increase made that much difference.
The battery also feels a little lighter.. I don't have a scale to weigh it on, but it does feel slightly lighter
Running R3velation ROM, Overclocked to 1.6GHZ - ondemand (voltage control), Undervolted -50v @ 100,200,400, sync is set at once a day I believe, automatic brightness, using WIFI only when needed, and GPS almost never
Overall... very satisfied.
PS.. my wife got her 3500mAh battery for her captivate. She is easily getting 2 days out of her battery.. I wish I could use it on my Infuse, but I use the Otterbox case... so it will not fit..
I got 2 of these for backup for my wifes and my phone. I use mine all the time. A bit better than the stock battery and for the price was very hard to beat.
Great find, thanks!
On the eBay page, the vendor says:
3. When first get the battery, use it out, charge for 10 hours for the first three times, use it out again, then it only need to charge about 5 hours for normal use.
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Did you bother with this, or did you just charge it up and pop it in?
scyld said:
Great find, thanks!
On the eBay page, the vendor says:
Did you bother with this, or did you just charge it up and pop it in?
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I just popped it in my phone and charged it for 10 to 12 hours
I searched a little on google about batteries and didn't find anything like the Ebay seller said to do.
No problems so far. And still getting a day out of the battery.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997
This battery need extra back cover or use the ordinary stock back cover?
Thanks for sharing. I had one of the double sized batteries with the extra back, but the battery wore out after only 6 months. I might just go for one of these.
I bought this battery after reading this thread. The battery is slightly more heavier. The battery life seems to last longer when the cell phone is in use but when the phone is on standby the battery dies quicker then the oem battery. Weird.
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ZzFDKzZ said:
I bought this battery after reading this thread. The battery is slightly more heavier. The battery life seems to last longer when the cell phone is in use but when the phone is on standby the battery dies quicker then the oem battery. Weird.
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That is wierd, i have the same batteries....came as a two pack with charger...after a few cycle of charge...works great....i try to rotate the two batteries..
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Those of you needing to know whats going on inside your battery, you need to find "Spare Parts" on the Market/Play Store.
There is a very in-depth app inside called simply "Battery Information"
There you will not only find your % of charge, but battery voltage and temperature, battery health and time since last boot.
Li-Ion batteries are tricky as they require no more than 4.2v, anything more can destroy the battery. Also, the cell is made to operate to no less than 3.0v, any less and the cell will "go to sleep", meaning it won't take a charge unless forced to do so.
Just some FYI, I did my homework on Li-Ion technology and figured I'd share a little...
Looking for a hi-capacity battery
I'll have a look at this....
So I was surfing the intraweb last night and came across http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...galaxy-s-relay-4g-t699-with-battery-door.html. Very tempting, especially considering that according to Mugen it has NFC. What do y'all think? Should I?
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uuh... the relay is already quite thick, with that battery it will be huge... i personally wouldn't, but it's a matter of personal taste
I had an extended battery on my Doubleshot before this - the bulk didn't really bother me. Maybe I'm strange but I didn't mind. Especially with the battery life I got.
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i has extended batteries for my G1 one back then. i used them when i took the device with me geocaching. I had two of them and they made the device stay up longer than i ever did
downside with the bulky back covers is, that the device won't fit into any pouches no more. and, of course cases no longer fit either.
but once you're used to the shape - imho - the added thickness is no longer disturbing.
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So I was surfing the intraweb last night and came across http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...galaxy-s-relay-4g-t699-with-battery-door.html. Very tempting, especially considering that according to Mugen it has NFC. What do y'all think? Should I?
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You can go for this solution....1/5th of Mugen's price:
http://www.hyperionea.com/product/hyperion-samsung-galaxy-s-relay-sgh-t699-2-x-battery-charger/
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
orange808 said:
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
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http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Capacity-Extended-Replacement-SGH-T699/dp/B00AQRVYXY - this one?
Does it have NFC? I don't see it anywhere on the page.
janejunx said:
http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Capacity-Extended-Replacement-SGH-T699/dp/B00AQRVYXY - this one?
Does it have NFC? I don't see it anywhere on the page.
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Nope. No NFC.
I've had my Relay 4G about a month and a half now, and am already looking at getting an extended battery. I find myself charging it a few times a day - sometimes I'll only get maybe 3 hours before it's "critically low". Yes, I do use it a ton - it's currently my main computer, since I rarely have access to my parents' laptop and my desktop, whose case+mobo+cpu I recently sent to the recycle bin, bit the dust over a year ago. Also I have unlimited unthrottled 4G on T-Mobile (and used well over 10-12GB last month, & this (billing) month am currently at 12.21GB since April 28.
I've seen the Mugen 4600mAh battery with NFC online around $90 (way too rich for my blood), and the EZOPower 4100mAh (no NFC) for around $17-23 or so at Amazon or NewEgg, among other places. I was originally wary of the cheap price on the EZO, but if the huge price difference is due to NFC and not being a cheaply made battery, I'd want the EZO, possibly 2. I don't use the NFC hardly at all, and I suppose if I really need it sometime I could pop the original stock battery back in for the occasion.
So any reason for me to NOT get the EZOPower 4100mAh? If I get 2, I'll probably also want an external charging solution so I can charge one while using the other. Also is there a hardshell case (with a built-in stand) available that fits the phone with the larger battery door? BTW unavailability of those two things won't be dealbreakers for me getting the battery. I had an extended battery for my G1, and that phone finally bit the dust after ~4+ years. (I wonder if my SGH-T699 will last that long…)
would somebody care to explain to be why nfc is dependand on the battery?
the batteries have just the same 4 connectors as any other cell battery i always had in my hands.
or are they made of materials that don't shield the nfc waves passing though?
nfc antenna is in the battery casing. NFC antennas go for about $5 on ebay, if you figured out which two connectors go to the nfc you could probably set up your own if your battery doesn't support it.
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Can anyone confirm whether the Relay accurately reports on the extended batteries? I'm currently using a patched Droid 3, but I'm starting to find its limitations too restrictive, and I'm thinking of plonking down for a Relay.
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orange808 said:
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
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I also picked up two EZO batteries. They have a well made cover and last for twice what stock does. Unfortunately it didn't have a NFC antenna and both have now swollen up to the point they no longer fit. While I had left them plugged in after full charge, they seem to stay warm and not tolerate it well. Can't say how well they could have lasted if better cared for, but abuse or overcharging seems to effect them quickly.
Does the mugen or other brands also have issues? If anyone else have suggestions.
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5318008 said:
Can anyone confirm whether the Relay accurately reports on the extended batteries? I'm currently using a patched Droid 3, but I'm starting to find its limitations too restrictive, and I'm thinking of plonking down for a Relay.
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Well, it just displays a percentage. It at least seems accurate while logging with Juice Defender's graph, it would track down at fairly consistent rate until charged or out of power. As for swapping over to a Relay, It's about as well supported as any slider out right now. I haven't been disappointed.
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the EZObattery rocks. For $19 (I got mine on ebay) I get 2 days and a few hours into the 3rd before needing a charge.
I have the same issue kilr00y mentioned about it not fitting into pouches or cases except I found now that the phone is harder to flip open and safely hold at the same time while doing 90 other things at once which is when I always need to use the phone. I keep an aftermarket case on the front screen part but can't find an extended back case. I made my own from a tube of black silicone but would love to hear it if anyone finds another option. I don't mind if the phone turns into 1988 brick style size so long as the battery lasts and I don't crack the screen again.
I was looking at extended batteries and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be a genuine extended battery that should work with this phone. Just would need an extended battery cover. Battery model is: EB-L1K6ULZ (Link)
rudias said:
I was looking at extended batteries and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be a genuine extended battery that should work with this phone. Just would need an extended battery cover. Battery model is: EB-L1K6ULZ (Link)
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It looks good. Be aware that most "extended" battery will not last long... In particular when they have a lower voltage than the original battery. Lot of battery with higher mAh run at 3.7V instead of 3.8V this make it last shorter than the original.
I've had 2 of the EZOPower 4100mAh batteries, and am experiencing the same problem that stonefoz mentioned about the batteries swelling. In my case, for example, the current one has gotten to where the cover will just spontaneously pop off, and the battery will dislodge, forcing the phone to lose power. Also, regarding his "staying warm" comment - sometimes when I was doing something extensive on the phone, it'd sometimes get so hot, especially the keyboard area, that I could barely hold it, and that concerns me some.
I believe the second one has lasted longer than my first, though. It's not quite as bad now as my first was when I replaced it. I bought my first one May 18, 2013, and my second one September 18, 2013, 4 months later. It's lasted till now, May 7, 2014, 7 and a half months later, but it's about time to replace it.
It looks like it's no longer available, but I was thinking I should try a different one anyway.
One option is this 4600 mAh Mugen battery for about $90, and another is this 5000 mAh MPJ battery for about $35. The MPJ does say it's only 3.7 volts, which according to scaltro could be a concern with longevity per charge.
I definitely would like better battery life. I've noticed that playing FarmVille 2: Country Escape is quite a drain - I'd go from full battery to getting the low battery warning after only something like 2 to 3 hours or so, even with the EZO battery. Earlier, I popped in the factory Samsung battery, topped off its charge, then decided to test battery life playing FV2. I also turned on bluetooth (and sent the sounds to an external speaker), cranked the screen brightness all the way up, and turned off power saver mode, in an attempt to get a "worst-case scenario". I tried turning on WiFi (we have a hotspot here now) but it wouldn't connect to the game server, so I just went through my unlimited+unthrottled 4G.
The results:
2:45am - battery full, unplugged
4:15am - battery 22% (I checked it a few times along the way periodically, but neglected to note the times)
4:23am - battery 14%, had just gotten the battery low popup warning
4:33am - battery 5%, battery critically low popup warning
4:35am - battery 3%, then I went and plugged it in.
So, it lasted only about an hour and 50 minutes from full to 3% remaining. I'm hoping a good battery would be able to go all day and all night and into the next day with similarly-intensive use. (No I wouldn't be playing games the entire time of course!)
Personally, if the $35 MPJ battery would be good enough, and significantly better than the EZO, I'd prefer to go for that one.
I'm wondering, though, if the $90 Mugen is a huge leap up in quality, though (disregarding the NFC for now which I haven't had to use)? It's a bit rich for my blood to drop all at once on a battery for a phone ... BUT, their website tells me they accept returns up to a year later (and I've gone through TWO EZOs in that time), which gives me some hope. If, overall, I'd be spending less by getting one Mugen and it outlasting 4 or 5 EZOs (if they were still available), I'd get that.
On a side note, it'll be a while before I can afford to replace my phone, but when I do, I'd really like a good QWERTY keyboard. I see that very few phones come with them now, though, and the ones that are are near the bottom of the barrel spec-wise. I'm thinking I'll need to get an external compact bluetooth or USB keyboard with my next phone, and expand my options for the phone itself. Ideally I'd like to get one that I can put in a flip case, with the phone in the other side of it, and close it when I'm not using it. (Although, there is the concern with getting the phone out quickly to answer calls, although I maybe only talk 25-50 minutes a month or so.) Any suggestions on what to look for in the case/keyboard department, for example? Chances are it won't be till 2015 at the earliest (and my wallet hopes my Galaxy S Relay 4G will last through 2016 or so unless it dies or something else goes seriously wrong) before I get a new phone, but I like to start my search early. When I do get one, I'm hoping it'll last at least 4-5 years, and maybe stretch it to 7-10 if I'm pressed for cash then.
My high capacity EZO battery eventually bloated and swelled up--after a year. I replaced it with a Mugen battery. Both came with new back covers and make the device about as chunky as a Sidekick II.
My device can run OpenGL applications for about 9 hours straight with the brightness set to 50%. It's about the same for movies. I get decent signal at my house and GPS is disabled when I am not using it. I use Green Power and Greenify to save battery when the device is locked, but that wouldn't affect using the device.
I am on an official Cyanogen nightly, so there's really no battery saving hocus pocus at work here.
Make no mistake, an extended battery will get you about 9 hours of heavy use. I thought I was going to die when I used a stock battery for a week waiting for my new Mugen to replace the old EZO. The device literally couldn't survive one day of use for me.
orange808 said:
My high capacity EZO battery eventually bloated and swelled up--after a year. I replaced it with a Mugen battery. Both came with new back covers and make the device about as chunky as a Sidekick II.
My device can run OpenGL applications for about 9 hours straight with the brightness set to 50%. It's about the same for movies. I get decent signal at my house and GPS is disabled when I am not using it. I use Green Power and Greenify to save battery when the device is locked, but that wouldn't affect using the device.
I am on an official Cyanogen nightly, so there's really no battery saving hocus pocus at work here.
Make no mistake, an extended battery will get you about 9 hours of heavy use. I thought I was going to die when I used a stock battery for a week waiting for my new Mugen to replace the old EZO. The device literally couldn't survive one day of use for me.
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Ahh, so your EZO bloated too, just took a little longer than mine did.
Sounds like the Mugen (if that's the one you describe getting 9 hours of heavy use) has relatively decent life. Would you say it's significantly better per charge in that respect than the EZO was when it was good?
Also how is the Mugen for longevity, as in not swelling, etc? If I buy a Mugen, would I over the long term pay the same or less than if I had kept buying EZOs? Paying $90 in one blow seems a bit heavy on the wallet, but I'd do it if I'm getting that much better quality & longevity.
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Ahh, so your EZO bloated too, just took a little longer than mine did.
Sounds like the Mugen (if that's the one you describe getting 9 hours of heavy use) has relatively decent life. Would you say it's significantly better per charge in that respect than the EZO was when it was good?
Also how is the Mugen for longevity, as in not swelling, etc? If I buy a Mugen, would I over the long term pay the same or less than if I had kept buying EZOs? Paying $90 in one blow seems a bit heavy on the wallet, but I'd do it if I'm getting that much better quality & longevity.
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Honestly, I got about the same results with my EZO battery: just over 9 hours of constant heavy use. Other than the fact it swelled up, it worked great. I guess there was a reason it was so cheap...
I had a Mugen battery for my Sidekick 4G before I bought the Relay and it still works great. (I loaned the SK4G to a friend that broke his phone.) My new Mugen hasn't had any problems, but I've only had it a few months.
Combined with TeamApex's Cyanogen and this awesome QWERTY keyboard, my extended batteries have made this phone the most productive and useful device I have ever owned. I can't say enough great things about ApexTmo, the Relay, and extended batteries.
I've had my Note 10.1 for about a year and a half and the battery no longer lasts nearly as long as it did when it was new. I'm now having to charge it just about every day, if I use it at all.
I called Samsung. Of course, the warranty is only 1 year and I'm past that, so they gave me the # to their service center (RSI - Repair Services Inc). I called them and they said it would be $159 to replace the battery. I can't see spending that much. I asked if I could buy a replacement battery and they said no.
Do any of you know where I can get a replacement battery? And instructions on how to disassemble/reassemble?
I've completely disassembled/reassembled numerous laptops and a Galaxy Note 2 phone - and they even worked afterwards and had no leftover parts! So, I'm pretty comfortable in thinking I can do it myself, with at least a little guidance on how to get it apart (and maybe even without that).
Or, I would consider paying a service to do it, if it's $100 or less, if you know of one. Especially if it's local to the northern VA/DC area.
TIA!
So, just FYI, there's a kit with a video on how to do it here:
http://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_G...eplacement_Kit_p/samsung galaxy note 10.1.htm
That kit is $50.
But, Newegg has just the OEM battery for $33 (w/free shipping).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0890RC4649
The "kit" only adds the plastic tool for prying open the casing, and maybe a jeweler's screwdriver. I have that stuff and couldn't see spending $17 plus whatever the shipping would be for it anyway, so I have the battery coming from Newegg.
Woohoo!!
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So, just FYI, there's a kit with a video on how to do it here:
http://www.newpower99.com/Samsung_G...eplacement_Kit_p/samsung galaxy note 10.1.htm
That kit is $50.
But, Newegg has just the OEM battery for $33 (w/free shipping).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0890RC4649
The "kit" only adds the plastic tool for prying open the casing, and maybe a jeweler's screwdriver. I have that stuff and couldn't see spending $17 plus whatever the shipping would be for it anyway, so I have the battery coming from Newegg.
Woohoo!!
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Let us know how it works out for you and if it is as easy as the video makes it look.
This is really good to know. I used to be a tech whore and had to have the latest and greatest of whatever, so if a battery was heading south I didn't really care because I never had a device long enough for it to matter.
I'm a bit more pragmatic these days though, and hang on to my devices longer, most likely because I just haven't seen anything compelling enough to upgrade to. When I saw the S4 and 2014 10.1 I was just like meh... marginal upgrades in my opinion. Still waiting for something to really knock my socks off
I'm still really digging my Note and want to keep it around. Thanks a ton for the info!
I finally got around to replacing my battery. I put in a new OEM Samsung one from Newegg.
The procedure was pretty much just like it was shown in that video on the NewPower99 site. I did the whole thing just using a set of jeweler's screwdrivers. A flat head for helping get the trim off and then a Phillips for the screws.
A couple of points:
- getting that first piece of trim off was, ummm, interesting. But, it finally came off, just starting from one end, and without getting boogered up from prying it with the flat head screwdriver. However, I think I got lucky, so don't be surprised if you try it and do booger it up a little.
- Once the top and sides of the back are pried/popped loose, the bottom comes off by lifting the back up and pulling away, from the top.
- Similarly, to put the back on again, slip the bottom into place by inserting the little hooks at a roughly 45 degree angle. Get ALL the hooks on the bottom in place before you start popping the sides down. Then pop the top in last.
- the ribbon cable connectors were also ... interesting. Maybe I should have rewatched that video before I did this. A magnifying glass probably would have helped. There are little flip-up bars on each connector to release each cable. I didn't really figure that out and ended up just pulling each of the ribbon cables (except the smallest one) loose without properly releasing them. I didn't figure out how they're really supposed to work until I tried to put them back together. For each one, you just flip up a little black bar that goes all the way across each connector. Then insert the ribbon edge and flip the black bar back down.
- I removed/replaced the battery without undoing the smallest ribbon cable. I wasn't sure how to get it loose and I was afraid of breaking something.
- After I got it all back together, it was working fine for web browsing, and running SpeedTest, but my email wouldn't connect and Facebook didn't work. I finally realized that the system clock was set correctly, but the system date had reverted to something like January 1, 2012. I manually set the date and then everything worked fine.
The only thing I don't really know now is if it's actually lasting longer on a charge that it did before. Too soon to tell yet.
Quick update:
It seems that my "new" battery doesn't last any longer than my original battery. I use Battery Monitor Widget and the original battery showed to have 5900mAh of measured capacity. The new battery only has 5800! I am in the process of arranging to return it and get a replacement. I suspect that the one I got was of old manufacture and has lost capacity just from sitting on a shelf. I will update that thread once I have obtained some kind of resolution.
stuartv said:
Quick update:
It seems that my "new" battery doesn't last any longer than my original battery. I use Battery Monitor Widget and the original battery showed to have 5900mAh of measured capacity. The new battery only has 5800! I am in the process of arranging to return it and get a replacement. I suspect that the one I got was of old manufacture and has lost capacity just from sitting on a shelf. I will update that thread once I have obtained some kind of resolution.
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When you get a new battery make sure you know the date code of the battery. They go bad whether they are in use or setting on the shelf.
stuartv said:
Quick update:
It seems that my "new" battery doesn't last any longer than my original battery. I use Battery Monitor Widget and the original battery showed to have 5900mAh of measured capacity. The new battery only has 5800! I am in the process of arranging to return it and get a replacement. I suspect that the one I got was of old manufacture and has lost capacity just from sitting on a shelf. I will update that thread once I have obtained some kind of resolution.
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5900 original capacity? Isn't it suppose to be 7000. At least for me that app shows 7000. I have also used my Gnote10.1 for about 1,5 years now and the battery still lasts as good as before, which is awesome in my mind.
stuartv said:
Quick update:
It seems that my "new" battery doesn't last any longer than my original battery. I use Battery Monitor Widget and the original battery showed to have 5900mAh of measured capacity. The new battery only has 5800! I am in the process of arranging to return it and get a replacement. I suspect that the one I got was of old manufacture and has lost capacity just from sitting on a shelf. I will update that thread once I have obtained some kind of resolution.
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Important things to do when you change the battery:
Clear battery cache (need root)
Do a several time charge cycles
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Only clear battery cache right after fully charge then unplug from charger.
3 - 4 charge cycle would be enough (1 charge cycle = 0% to 100%)
shaun298 said:
When you get a new battery make sure you know the date code of the battery. They go bad whether they are in use or setting on the shelf.
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I know they go bad. But, where do I find the date code and how do I interpret it?
xiaotuo said:
5900 original capacity? Isn't it suppose to be 7000. At least for me that app shows 7000. I have also used my Gnote10.1 for about 1,5 years now and the battery still lasts as good as before, which is awesome in my mind.
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Sorry I wasn't clear. My original battery which is now around 18 months old, was showing 5900 mAh capacity when I took it out. I.e. now that it's 18 months old. And the new battery shows even less capacity.
This is after 2 weeks of regular usage and several full charging cycles.
d4rkkn16ht said:
Important things to do when you change the battery:
Clear battery cache (need root)
Do a several time charge cycles
Note:
Only clear battery cache right after fully charge then unplug from charger.
3 - 4 charge cycle would be enough (1 charge cycle = 0% to 100%)
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I did not clear the battery stats. I am rooted. I have had the new battery installed for about 2 weeks now and have had several full charging cycles. 6 or more.
But, if the new battery really had 7000 mAh capacity (or anywhere near that), even without clearing my stats, they should be trending upwards, right, not down?
Battery stat related problems have swarmed this forum since the dawn of android.
Many complained about lower battery life after switching ROMs & batteries.
Try 1 more cycle (deplete the battery then fully charge) then delete the battery stat & unplug.
Use the unit for your daily routines for several days & check again if the battery performance still go south.
FYI,my N8000 is around 1 year now & I've "abused" it almost everyday with very heavy usage (plenty syncs,fullday internet 3G &/or WiFi,Online & Offline games,music, Bluetooth,web browsing,eBook readings,notes taking & many more) that require me to charge twice a day.
Occasionally I let it rest to check the battery performance & I still get 14 - 18 hours from a single charge with still heavy internet usage for plenty syncs & web browsing only.
I'm looking forward to buy a replacement battery if this one is out of juice.
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I know they go bad. But, where do I find the date code and how do I interpret it?
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Got a 700mah off ebay and just ask the seller. The date code should be on the bat, just google battery date codes, their are many. It is worth the effort to get a good one.
Latest update: the Newegg partner that actually supplied the battery has sent me a replacement. The date on it is from 2011. I looked at my original Note battery that I took out and it is dated 2012!
I emailed the seller back and told them this replacement battery is not acceptable either and asked if they can actually supply me one of recent manufacture. They are checking and are supposed to get back to me by tomorrow.
Oh, and I did a full charge and wiped battery stats last week. It's had 2 or 3 full charge cycles and the "new" battery is still only showing around 5900 mAh capacity.
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Oh, and I did a full charge and wiped battery stats last week. It's had 2 or 3 full charge cycles and the "new" battery is still only showing around 5900 mAh capacity.
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Then you got a broken battery
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Oh, and I did a full charge and wiped battery stats last week. It's had 2 or 3 full charge cycles and the "new" battery is still only showing around 5900 mAh capacity.
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Dispite the 5900, how long does a charge last.
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Dispite the 5900, how long does a charge last.
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Well, it seems to last about the same as the original battery that I used for a year and a half. Which means I have to put it on a charger every other night or it will day before the next night. When my tablet was new (and I was really hammering the usage back then), I could normally go 3 or 4 days between charges.
Newegg just got back to me with this:
Okay sorry for the delay. But finally our vendor got back to us. The items are new. They may be old due to the year. Only because the tablets for the tab 10.1 released in 2011. Tab 2 10.1 and Note 10.1 released in 2012. The batteries are new. They were just not used. During the the time the tablets was released. The batteries were manufactured. They wouldnt be making new batteries. Since Samsung comes out with new tablets to make new batteries. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns and I will be more than happy to help Thank you and have a wonderful day!
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So, they are saying that Samsung made all the replacement batteries for these tablets back when they manufactured the tablets themselves and they are not making new batteries for it any more. Effing LAME!
Hello all, thanks in advance for any suggestions
I have a Galaxy S5 that I will be taking back to the store since we haven't been able to get root on it yet, fairly satisfied with the phone.
I had an S3 and then a HTC Thunderbolt before that, both with removable batteries.
Removable batteries have been a huge pro for me, I am often very hard on battery using bluetooth and playing media for 12 hours at a time away from charger.
Really other than being a little tall the battery is what is keeping me away from the M8.
What options does a guy have to combat a non replaceable battery? I know the little pocket power cells have come a long way, and I currently always carry a spare battery now so maybe that is a lateral change. Are there some of those that charge very fast?
I tend to keep phones running a LONG time and pass them down to wife/kids and removable battery has always been a big pro to that.
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Hello all, thanks in advance for any suggestions
I have a Galaxy S5 that I will be taking back to the store since we haven't been able to get root on it yet, fairly satisfied with the phone.
I had an S3 and then a HTC Thunderbolt before that, both with removable batteries.
Removable batteries have been a huge pro for me, I am often very hard on battery using bluetooth and playing media for 12 hours at a time away from charger.
Really other than being a little tall the battery is what is keeping me away from the M8.
What options does a guy have to combat a non replaceable battery? I know the little pocket power cells have come a long way, and I currently always carry a spare battery now so maybe that is a lateral change. Are there some of those that charge very fast?
I tend to keep phones running a LONG time and pass them down to wife/kids and removable battery has always been a big pro to that.
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an external battery like you mentioned or a battery case. if you're worried about wearing out the battery, im sure you can replace it manually after 2-3 years by opening up the phone (there's teardowns posted already). I can't speak on either battery option though bc i have a charger at my desk.
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an external battery like you mentioned or a battery case. if you're worried about wearing out the battery, im sure you can replace it manually after 2-3 years by opening up the phone (there's teardowns posted already). I can't speak on either battery option though bc i have a charger at my desk.
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The M8 got a very poor repair-ability score from ifixit so a battery swap won't be a simple choice. Thus my being a bit cautious.
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I had an S3 and then a HTC Thunderbolt before that, both with removable batteries.
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Ditto, followed by a Galaxy S4.
Removable batteries have been a huge pro for me, I am often very hard on battery using bluetooth and playing media for 12 hours at a time away from charger.
Really other than being a little tall the battery is what is keeping me away from the M8.
What options does a guy have to combat a non replaceable battery?
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Probably no options are needed. I used to carry a spare battery (or two!) for my T-Bolt but found I could live with the S3 and S4 batteries by keeping a spare battery on a charger and swapping batteries around 6 PM each day.
I was VERY nervous about going to the M8 with the non-removable battery but it lasts and lasts and lasts....... I take it off the charger at 7 AM when I get up and have more than 50% when I go to bed, usually around midnight.
I have a car charger, never needed to use it, I have a USB cord plugged into my PC so I can charge while I'm typing this, never do though, it's not needed.
I can't speak to battery life 3 years down the road when cell phone batteries start losing life but in 3 years I suspect this phone will be as obsolete as a rotary dial phone is now and I'll be looking for the latest gee-whiz phone that is cosmic ray powered or ????
Don't worry about the battery, it'll be fine.
FWIW, rooted, TWRP recovery, running BoneStock ROM (thanks, AndyBones!) with power saver turned OFF!
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Ditto, followed by a Galaxy S4.
Probably no options are needed. I used to carry a spare battery (or two!) for my T-Bolt but found I could live with the S3 and S4 batteries by keeping a spare battery on a charger and swapping batteries around 6 PM each day.
I was VERY nervous about going to the M8 with the non-removable battery but it lasts and lasts and lasts....... I take it off the charger at 7 AM when I get up and have more than 50% when I go to bed, usually around midnight.
I have a car charger, never needed to use it, I have a USB cord plugged into my PC so I can charge while I'm typing this, never do though, it's not needed.
I can't speak to battery life 3 years down the road when cell phone batteries start losing life but in 3 years I suspect this phone will be as obsolete as a rotary dial phone is now and I'll be looking for the latest gee-whiz phone that is cosmic ray powered or ????
Don't worry about the battery, it'll be fine.
FWIW, rooted, TWRP recovery, running BoneStock ROM (thanks, AndyBones!) with power saver turned OFF!
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Thanks for the input! Glad to hear very good and optimistic reviews of the power, thanks for sharing what you are running rooted wise and the like, I am missing being able to do that already on the S5.
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Thanks for the input! Glad to hear very good and optimistic reviews of the power, thanks for sharing what you are running rooted wise and the like, I am missing being able to do that already on the S5.
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YW, hope it helps. You know what works for one may not work for another, right?
When Samsung and VZW locked down the S4 (and later the S3) I knew I wouldn't be buying another Samsung phone, us flashaholics GOTTA FLASH!
I was in the same boat as you. I almost went with an S5 because of the non-removable battery. Not being able to remove the battery is a stupid, and lazy, design idea. I watched a few videos about the battery and went for it. I have to say its at least 50% better than my TBolt. At the end of the day my TBolt usually was at about 30-45%. Now with the same exact usage patterns the M8 ends at 98%. Yeah I seem to only use 2% over an 8 hour work day. I use it on breaks of course. I plan on buying one of those portable batteries for emergency charging and I've got at least 3 chargers in various places. I used my phone at a family event for about an hour and a half. I watched 3-4 youtube videos ranging from 10-20 minutes each at max quality and did some web browsing and that brought it to 75%. Tethering with the WiFi Router app can suck it down pretty fast though. All in all Im happy with how well the battery holds up. Im sure someone will sell a better battery you can replace down the road with a little disassembly.
Concerns about a non-removable battery are overblown now days. If you're going to carry around extra batteries, you can just as easily carry around an auxiliary battery. The smaller ones are the size of a lipstick and are rated around 3000 mah, enough to double the capacity of nearly any device currently on the market. If that's not enough for you they go all the way up to 12000 before they start getting too large to carry around. By the time the battery actually needs replacing, you will likely have moved on to another phone.
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I was in the same boat as you. I almost went with an S5 because of the non-removable battery. Not being able to remove the battery is a stupid, and lazy, design idea. I watched a few videos about the battery and went for it. I have to say its at least 50% better than my TBolt. At the end of the day my TBolt usually was at about 30-45%. Now with the same exact usage patterns the M8 ends at 98%. Yeah I seem to only use 2% over an 8 hour work day. I use it on breaks of course. I plan on buying one of those portable batteries for emergency charging and I've got at least 3 chargers in various places. I used my phone at a family event for about an hour and a half. I watched 3-4 youtube videos ranging from 10-20 minutes each at max quality and did some web browsing and that brought it to 75%. Tethering with the WiFi Router app can suck it down pretty fast though. All in all Im happy with how well the battery holds up. Im sure someone will sell a better battery you can replace down the road with a little disassembly.
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how do you expect a 90% metal phone to have a removable battery? i don't see this as possible. you're gonna get tabs that break off very easily or something else that fails bc you want to take your battery out easily.