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Android and the Fuze!!!!!!

so with t-mobile G1 coming out wendsday i wanted to start a post about the fuze and the android OS. i know the tilt has a bootable version and i searched and found nothing for the touch pro. so i guess my question is does anyone have a working android OS on a TP/FUZE. if there is nobody with one yet when and if one could be available. im interested in this because it is open source.
Thanks
BobMarley2k9

I am also interresting in Android. Wondering if there is something coming for TP!

Everyone's interested, but no one's making a move. No, there's nothing available as far as I know, and there won't be for a while if I were to guess.

i'd have to say that it definitely wont be here until the fuze is released, and probably a few months after that. people need to get their hands on the actual phone to roll the drivers, debug, and work out the kinks. i'm definitely interested in trying it, as this phone is one that will have the horsepower to run it on top of windows mobile (provided most everything is turned off in winmo). here's to hoping that some intelligent soul spends some time on this!

m.carroll said:
i'd have to say that it definitely wont be here until the fuze is released, and probably a few months after that. people need to get their hands on the actual phone to roll the drivers, debug, and work out the kinks. i'm definitely interested in trying it, as this phone is one that will have the horsepower to run it on top of windows mobile (provided most everything is turned off in winmo). here's to hoping that some intelligent soul spends some time on this!
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Oh most definitely, I don't see any problems running it at all... If you can run the memory hogging TF3D on top of WinMo with 288MB RAM, and the G1 comes with 192MB, I think 288MB should be just fine to run Android as well.

no kidding, with TP's spec it would run android much better than G1 does.

baboola said:
no kidding, with TP's spec it would run android much better than G1 does.
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besides the whole capacitive screen thing. do you know if the android os is resolution independent? ie: will it work on the vga screen that is different from the g1's 480×320 screen?
lolz: it will look better in higher resolution!

m.carroll said:
besides the whole capacitive screen thing. do you know if the android os is resolution independent? ie: will it work on the vga screen that is different from the g1's 480×320 screen?
lolz: it will look better in higher resolution!
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Check out zzzphone.com and find a spec for that screen, that'll tell you if it's resolution independent (unless they completely reconfigured it to that phone).

Black93300ZX said:
Check out zzzphone.com and find a spec for that screen, that'll tell you if it's resolution independent (unless they completely reconfigured it to that phone).
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that thing is horribly photoshopped. i'm sorry for scammers, and even more sorry for the people who fall for it.

m.carroll said:
that thing is horribly photoshopped. i'm sorry for scammers, and even more sorry for the people who fall for it.
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I'm not totally sure it's a scam, but the site is horribly set up and that photochopped phone is very misleading. I wouldn't trust custom-built Chinese electronics even if it was legit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/technology/personaltech/21phone.html
You do know what they say though, when something seems too good to be true... 7MP camera, 4 stereo speakers, GPS, wifi, 512MB RAM, touch screen, $459?

LOL
Please tell me that someone listened to the "TV Commercial" on the site!
Funniest thing I've heard in a while LOL!
http://www.zzzphone.com/flash/tv-en.swf
Quote!
"We preinstall your MP3 and MP4 so your phone arrives ready to use!"
So fully circumventing licensing and copyright - NO PROBLEM FOR ZZZ PHONE!

lol! that phone gives me the Zzzz's

It might be possible now:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/google-opens-the-floodgates-open-sources-android/
http://source.android.com/

qazzi76 said:
Please tell me that someone listened to the "TV Commercial" on the site!
Funniest thing I've heard in a while LOL!
http://www.zzzphone.com/flash/tv-en.swf
Quote!
"We preinstall your MP3 and MP4 so your phone arrives ready to use!"
So fully circumventing licensing and copyright - NO PROBLEM FOR ZZZ PHONE!
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I stopped the slideshow and left after I saw they couldn't even spell Micro SD, thats a total scammer site.

anyway ...
so now that the source has been dropped by google for android, do you all see HTC developing andriod for future phones even putting roms out for their "current" line.
i looked in the rom dev section, and didnt see anything, but would anyone on this board here be looking into writing for the TPro? I am WAY more interested in a TouchPro with Android than with windows.
i dont think the resistive/capacitive screen matters since android is supposed to be scalable. so ... i dunno whats gonna happen, but id really like to see someone adapt the TPro to android. would they have to start from "scratch" or could they somehow use the build for the G1 and change it to accommodate the TouchPro. similar hardware ... if it was released.
but if anyone has any news, other than scammer sites, id love to hear whats goin on, on the dev side.
thanks!

Best Handset at the moment?

Please recommend me a new handset as I'm getting the bug for a new one again and I'm a bit out of touch.
I've had just about every handset HTC has ever made since the very first XDA I.
I'm not put off by size (I love and still use my Athena)
Must be fast and good at playing video/divx etc
Prefer some kind of flash.
I kinda like the Pro2 but worried its just a pretty face and no big performance increase?
Also concidering a Hero but worried about Android. Can I transfer all contacts, calender etc over ok?
Suggestions on a postcard please

The HD2 LEO is the latest and greatest with Snapdragon! See it's section for details:http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=532
But if u want a keyboard, then the TP2.

Touch Pro 2 is the best hardware keyboard device!
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......

I strongly recommend you to buy Touch Pro 2. It is more than just a pretty face. It has a tilting screen. It allows for optimum viewing angle when typing, it allows you to easily watch a movie without holding your device, and it's great if you're using GPS navigation in the car.

Thanks guys, any comments on the Hero?
Are they easy to mod and transfer contacts etc from WM?

Hero comments here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143
All HTC devices can be modded thanks to XDA!!
All can be done (almost all )

Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.

orb3000 said:
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Made me laugh.

orb3000 said:
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!

don't worry about Android. I am a long time WM user, and had a G1 phone for almost a year now. Android is a very very nice system with a lot of software in the Marketplace.
That being said, I just got myself the new Acer neoTouch.
1 GHz Snapdragon, good amout of RAM, nice 3,8" WVGA screen, WM 6.5, configurable accelerometer, nice design, good build quality.
I would say, if you don't need a keyboard and don't want to wait for the HD2, this is the best device today. it is very speedy, has good usability and seems reliable so far.

Fuskand said:
Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.
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Shame it´s not an HTC device so it won´t have the great support of this forum. I´ll stick to HTC
KrewCial said:
Made me laugh.
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Me too
galaxys said:
Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!
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LOL
Yeah mate, you are right

I need a little help on choosing!

I can keep my htc touch hd or sell it and buy a toshiba tg01 or an lg expo can you guys help me out a little on which you think is a better device. Thanks

austin8868 said:
I can keep my htc touch hd or sell it and buy a toshiba tg01 or an lg expo can you guys help me out a little on which you think is a better device. Thanks
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Personally, if you don't have a place like xda to help enjoy your phone then it's not worth getting another phone that you can not customize above and beyond the typical parameters. I don't know too much about LG or Toshiba's support sites out there but I often stick with HTC because xda.
It's not just about the phones specs but the people behind the phones that matter more. XDA is that community that keeps me close to HTC.
Do research using the various website like GSM Arena to figure out the best phone....but don't stop there. Find out the support Groups that are willing to carry you and your device to it's furthest limits.
Hope this helps.....

Well said band27! Definately check the HTC devices & hang out on XDA!

galaxys said:
Well said band27! Definately check the HTC devices & hang out on XDA!
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Thanks ......and yes, if it wasn't for xda, I would have left HTC by now.
Viva XDA! Viva las vegas! Either one sounds good, yes?
I probably should get some air as I've been on this site for some considerable hours today.......lol and loving it!

austin8868 said:
I can keep my htc touch hd or sell it and buy a toshiba tg01 or an lg expo can you guys help me out a little on which you think is a better device. Thanks
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Hi there
I have a LG IQ (Canadian eXpo). I have never had a HD or a tg01 so I cant compare them directly but I can comment on the eXpo.
I very much like my eXpo, but as other posters have said, the big thing you lose going to another manufacturer is this communities support, although several on this forum have stated that they will work on ROM development when it becomes possible. There is a fledgling web site www.lg-expo.com and a special interest group here, where discussions about development can take place.
things I love about the eXpo:
The keyboard - as good feel as the Touch Pro 2, but with a few less keys
The screen - colorful and bright but I havent used a HD
The SPEED of the processor -1 GHz and you know it when browsing or booting your device. You also know it when using processor intensive apps - doing things like browsing a large music collection.
the camera - 5 Mpixel, flash and it works quite well for a phone camera.
I am looking forward to the coming availability of the projector attachment.
the hardware multi-tasking button, and LG task manager works better than anything else I have seen on WM
the fingerprint reader - yes this works for security - and it works fast so I actually use it, which wasn't the case with the password systems and in my situation I really should use security of some type.
After TF3D or Sence, the S Class user interface is different and needs some getting used to! I have grown to like it but it was a rocky road the first week.
The bad...It has no internal stylus, so you have to use your finger nail sometimes. With 6.5 I find I can live with this since I don't end up wanting to use a stylus too much.
good luck and cheers,

Stay with HTC!
Go for Leo or Rhodium
So far the best 2 devices to this date

stimpson said:
Hi there
I have a LG IQ (Canadian eXpo). I have never had a HD or a tg01 so I cant compare them directly but I can comment on the eXpo.
I very much like my eXpo, but as other posters have said, the big thing you lose going to another manufacturer is this communities support, although several on this forum have stated that they will work on ROM development when it becomes possible. There is a fledgling web site www.lg-expo.com and a special interest group here, where discussions about development can take place.
things I love about the eXpo:
The keyboard - as good feel as the Touch Pro 2, but with a few less keys
The screen - colorful and bright but I havent used a HD
The SPEED of the processor -1 GHz and you know it when browsing or booting your device. You also know it when using processor intensive apps - doing things like browsing a large music collection.
the camera - 5 Mpixel, flash and it works quite well for a phone camera.
I am looking forward to the coming availability of the projector attachment.
the hardware multi-tasking button, and LG task manager works better than anything else I have seen on WM
the fingerprint reader - yes this works for security - and it works fast so I actually use it, which wasn't the case with the password systems and in my situation I really should use security of some type.
After TF3D or Sence, the S Class user interface is different and needs some getting used to! I have grown to like it but it was a rocky road the first week.
The bad...It has no internal stylus, so you have to use your finger nail sometimes. With 6.5 I find I can live with this since I don't end up wanting to use a stylus too much.
good luck and cheers,
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ty for more information i am glad that this phone is getting some more buzz. i think that i am going to get the expo and keep it for a good long time; that is as soon as i can get one for a good deal with out contract.

galaxys said:
Well said band27! Definately check the HTC devices & hang out on XDA!
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Yeah specially N1 thats coming out lol there is some stuff on n1user.com

Nexus 2 made by samsung, looks like galaxy s hardware

http://gizmodo.com/5676008/hands-on-the-nexus-two-by-samsung

I love my Galaxy S, but this is a bit disappointing.
I was hoping for something that would push the bar - like a 4" Super AMOLED with a dual-core processor or something nuts like the N1 was over it's generation.
On the bright side, it does show that the Android lineup is a lot stronger than it was before.

it could also mean that well get a stock rom build that could prolly be easily be ported over easily to ours?

Yeah... I'm hoping this means we'll actually get timely updates in the future.

kuherrm said:
it could also mean that well get a stock rom build that could prolly be easily be ported over easily to ours?
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This. This could be the single best thing if the ROMs can be easily ported and Google is in charge of software updates like they were with the Nexus One.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

this is one of the worst ... i dont know if i should even call it an article, but just so we can reference to it properly we will.
first, googles nexus one was very innovative, it showed a real and true glimpse into the future. for the second one there is no way they will take a step back and use some current hardware that has already been out for a while.
this is my opinion of what i believe is in the best interest of google.
so to pick on the article a little bit.
they keep refering back to the galaxy s line, which according to the "article" the only thing that was similar between them was how they looked, it says specifically that they had no idea what it had inside of it lol.
it states that the "nexus 2" was far less impressive than the n1, so what are they going by to support this statement? how it looked (opinion) and what they guess is inside of it? furthermore he didnt even know what kind of screen it had on the outside, he thinks it is an oled 4"... but not really sure, but one thing is for sure, it is "flat"

kuherrm said:
it could also mean that well get a stock rom build that could prolly be easily be ported over easily to ours?
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This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the article.... omnomnomnom

I agree whole-heartedly.

kuherrm said:
it could also mean that well get a stock rom build that could prolly be easily be ported over easily to ours?
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that's all i can think about right now .
galaxy s with AOSP gingerbread and google rolling out updates every month? amazing.

If the Nexus 2 is a rebadged and tweaked Galaxy S, then we have just been handed a great gift. Google and a significant portion of the android developer community will move on to our platform, and will tweak the device to their hearts desire. This means we will be at the front of the line to get any updates. And almost all new software will be compatible to our phones. Won't we love to be in the news as one of the first phones to get Gingerbread, Honeycomb, and IceCream, rather that the last ones to get Froyo.

insaneturbo13 said:
it states that the "nexus 2" was far less impressive than the n1, so what are they going by to support this statement? how it looked (opinion) and what they guess is inside of it? furthermore he didnt even know what kind of screen it had on the outside, he thinks it is an oled 4"... but not really sure, but one thing is for sure, it is "flat"
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My question is how the heck can you not be sure if you're looking at an oled screen??
I obviously can't speak for anyone else but I can usually tell within the first second of looking at a screen if it's oled or not... if you don't believe me try putting an iphone and a 'real' phone like the N1 or the captivate side by side, then have them play the same video.

this should end the GPS debate as well. if the nexus two uses our chip, we'll either get a soft fix or we'll know our hardware is defective. if it uses a different chip, we know ours is broken forever.

More info/confirmation from PCMag. Too bad no confirmation on the hardware part; other than how it looks...
FTA:
yes, Samsung is working on an unlocked Android device that looks like the one in Gizmodo's pictures. But it may not be called "Nexus Two," my sources said.
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I for one dont care if the hardware was the same and the phone looked like that(most likely wont). As long as you give me stock Gingerbread Rom, no ATT crap and a working GPS, I will be picking one up.

Wish that they stuck with the Nexus 1 hardware and tweaked it. I love my phone... but why google is using Samsung is beyond me.
I wonder if Google did ANY research before signing the deal on this? Obviously they never looked on GOOGLE for issues with Samsung Galaxy S devices. Their marketing team should be drawn and quartered.
But... with all that being said - if Samsung is just pumping out the hardware and Google is the one providing the software without Sammy's thumb in the pie - it might be a halfway decent device.
Also.. was the lil tabby thing sticking out from the bottom of the phone?

nr2134 said:
I for one dont care if the hardware was the same and the phone looked like that(most likely wont). As long as you give me stock Gingerbread Rom, no ATT crap and a working GPS, I will be picking one up.
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I think that the point, at least for the majority of Captivate owners (are you not one yourself?) in this forum, is that when/if said phone is released, there won't be any need to buy it in order to get the stock rom you're referring to, as it would most likely be easily ported over to the Captivate.

t-readyroc said:
I think that the point, at least for the majority of Captivate owners (are you not one yourself?) in this forum, is that when/if said phone is released, there won't be any need to buy it in order to get the stock rom you're referring to, as it would most likely be easily ported over to the Captivate.
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Aha.. but your missing something here. The keyboard. Might be easy to convert for the Epic crowd... but for those without a keyboard probably not so much.
We won't know until it is released and the custom ROM developers can get their hands on the source.

t-readyroc said:
I think that the point, at least for the majority of Captivate owners (are you not one yourself?) in this forum, is that when/if said phone is released, there won't be any need to buy it in order to get the stock rom you're referring to, as it would most likely be easily ported over to the Captivate.
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I understand and do own a cappy, but that would take time and I dont like to wait.
When I had my N1 before I played with my brothers Captivate there was no wait for a new ROM and I loved it. Unfortunately, the N1 was slow compared to the Captivate and I switched.

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Aha.. but your missing something here. The keyboard. Might be easy to convert for the Epic crowd... but for those without a keyboard probably not so much.
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Keyboard? Nothing I've read on this rumored handset says anything about it including a hardware keyboard (if that's indeed what you're implying)... Have you read something I haven't?

Just speculation but maybe this is why samsung is taking their sweet time getting froyo out. Possibly getting gingerbread ready for this and other galaxy s devices?

Its getting busy in here :-)

Wow this area of the forum is getting busy, last week there was just a few of us, now the numbers are increasing fast. I knew this phone was going to be popular, just wait till the USA gets it too
Welcome new O3D owners.
Pete

i was just thinking the same i'm a member since yesterday but i followed this forum a few days before that and it's getting real busy awesome

mmm, when is supposed to be out in USA?

I guess we all just know a good phone when we see it.
Can't believe I was considering a Galaxy S2 or an HTC Sensation over my O3D. What was I thinking?!

Lagamorph said:
I guess we all just know a good phone when we see it.
Can't believe I was considering a Galaxy S2 or an HTC Sensation over my O3D. What was I thinking?!
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Really dude, what were you thinking. Forget about the 3d, Optimus is still better than them. Tri-Dual and the Omap4 is the key

I noticed so excited when I purchased my LG because I'm not so sure whether it is true the right smartphone for me and if it gets the community it deserves. But what amazes me it goes fast because it is not yet available everywhere. I think there are still some great things to come

I'm very close to buying one.
My main concern is that the standard 2D 5MP camera is going to be rubbish up against the Galaxy S II. However, my software support fears have been alleviated by the fact CM7 has been confirmed.
I hear the 3D really is quite excellent.
See this thread if you have a decent pictures to share - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174827

well i started in this forum with my HTC Elfin, then Xperia X1, then Motorola Milestone, then Galaxy S, then Galaxy S2 (for two weeks) and now my journey ended with this masterpiece of a smartphone!
looking forward to flash and test and flash and so on

Robboftw said:
I'm very close to buying one.
My main concern is that the standard 2D 5MP camera is going to be rubbish up against the Galaxy S II. However, my software support fears have been alleviated by the fact CM7 has been confirmed.
I hear the 3D really is quite excellent.
See this thread if you have a decent pictures to share - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174827
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Someone tell me why cm7 is so much talked about...whats so special about it? A video? I looked at the about page, and it seems its just a malware protector, themer ect. Nothing special? We already have themes?

borgqueenx said:
Someone tell me why cm7 is so much talked about...whats so special about it? A video? I looked at the about page, and it seems its just a malware protector, themer ect. Nothing special? We already have themes?
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its so much more than just themes. there is deffo no malware protection. most manufacturers would probably describe it as malware!
cyanogenmod is a completely from the ground up customised version of android operating system designed for the power user with the intent of maximising the control over and performance of the raw hardware. it allows you to fully manage the settings and behaviours of your device to suit the way YOU like it.
i will honestly never buy another phone that does not have cyanogen available for it, its that good.

Things do seem to be picking up now in these forums which is nice to see.

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its so much more than just themes. there is deffo no malware protection. most manufacturers would probably describe it as malware!
cyanogenmod is a completely from the ground up customised version of android operating system designed for the power user with the intent of maximising the control over and performance of the raw hardware. it allows you to fully manage the settings and behaviours of your device to suit the way YOU like it.
i will honestly never buy another phone that does not have cyanogen available for it, its that good.
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So it will give us full root, and contain alot optimalisations to make the phone even faster?

borgqueenx said:
So it will give us full root, and contain alot optimalisations to make the phone even faster?
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well it's not that easy...
cyanogenmod is a opensource version of android.
normal customroms are basing on firmwares of the company.
cm7 not. its based on the officual code from google.
on the one side the programmers are able to change the code more easyer and deeper than the firmwares, on the other hand its harder to port cm7 to a new device with all the hardwaresupport.
and yes cm7 is always rooted
pros of cm7:
faster (not from the beginning on)
more funktions
cooler
cons of cm7:
at the beginning there are always bugs (due the different hardware)
some functions never work (for example tv-output of the galaxy s)
at the beginning batterydrain
so at the beginning the cm7-ports to a new device are buggy, slow, batterydraining and don't support the full hardware.
but after a lot of new releases it's really great! blazing fast, cooler, batterysaving and and and

Just got my P920 hope the amount of users will grow everyday