I can keep my htc touch hd or sell it and buy a toshiba tg01 or an lg expo can you guys help me out a little on which you think is a better device. Thanks
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I can keep my htc touch hd or sell it and buy a toshiba tg01 or an lg expo can you guys help me out a little on which you think is a better device. Thanks
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Personally, if you don't have a place like xda to help enjoy your phone then it's not worth getting another phone that you can not customize above and beyond the typical parameters. I don't know too much about LG or Toshiba's support sites out there but I often stick with HTC because xda.
It's not just about the phones specs but the people behind the phones that matter more. XDA is that community that keeps me close to HTC.
Do research using the various website like GSM Arena to figure out the best phone....but don't stop there. Find out the support Groups that are willing to carry you and your device to it's furthest limits.
Hope this helps.....
Well said band27! Definately check the HTC devices & hang out on XDA!
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Well said band27! Definately check the HTC devices & hang out on XDA!
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Thanks ......and yes, if it wasn't for xda, I would have left HTC by now.
Viva XDA! Viva las vegas! Either one sounds good, yes?
I probably should get some air as I've been on this site for some considerable hours today.......lol and loving it!
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I can keep my htc touch hd or sell it and buy a toshiba tg01 or an lg expo can you guys help me out a little on which you think is a better device. Thanks
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Hi there
I have a LG IQ (Canadian eXpo). I have never had a HD or a tg01 so I cant compare them directly but I can comment on the eXpo.
I very much like my eXpo, but as other posters have said, the big thing you lose going to another manufacturer is this communities support, although several on this forum have stated that they will work on ROM development when it becomes possible. There is a fledgling web site www.lg-expo.com and a special interest group here, where discussions about development can take place.
things I love about the eXpo:
The keyboard - as good feel as the Touch Pro 2, but with a few less keys
The screen - colorful and bright but I havent used a HD
The SPEED of the processor -1 GHz and you know it when browsing or booting your device. You also know it when using processor intensive apps - doing things like browsing a large music collection.
the camera - 5 Mpixel, flash and it works quite well for a phone camera.
I am looking forward to the coming availability of the projector attachment.
the hardware multi-tasking button, and LG task manager works better than anything else I have seen on WM
the fingerprint reader - yes this works for security - and it works fast so I actually use it, which wasn't the case with the password systems and in my situation I really should use security of some type.
After TF3D or Sence, the S Class user interface is different and needs some getting used to! I have grown to like it but it was a rocky road the first week.
The bad...It has no internal stylus, so you have to use your finger nail sometimes. With 6.5 I find I can live with this since I don't end up wanting to use a stylus too much.
good luck and cheers,
Stay with HTC!
Go for Leo or Rhodium
So far the best 2 devices to this date
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Hi there
I have a LG IQ (Canadian eXpo). I have never had a HD or a tg01 so I cant compare them directly but I can comment on the eXpo.
I very much like my eXpo, but as other posters have said, the big thing you lose going to another manufacturer is this communities support, although several on this forum have stated that they will work on ROM development when it becomes possible. There is a fledgling web site www.lg-expo.com and a special interest group here, where discussions about development can take place.
things I love about the eXpo:
The keyboard - as good feel as the Touch Pro 2, but with a few less keys
The screen - colorful and bright but I havent used a HD
The SPEED of the processor -1 GHz and you know it when browsing or booting your device. You also know it when using processor intensive apps - doing things like browsing a large music collection.
the camera - 5 Mpixel, flash and it works quite well for a phone camera.
I am looking forward to the coming availability of the projector attachment.
the hardware multi-tasking button, and LG task manager works better than anything else I have seen on WM
the fingerprint reader - yes this works for security - and it works fast so I actually use it, which wasn't the case with the password systems and in my situation I really should use security of some type.
After TF3D or Sence, the S Class user interface is different and needs some getting used to! I have grown to like it but it was a rocky road the first week.
The bad...It has no internal stylus, so you have to use your finger nail sometimes. With 6.5 I find I can live with this since I don't end up wanting to use a stylus too much.
good luck and cheers,
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ty for more information i am glad that this phone is getting some more buzz. i think that i am going to get the expo and keep it for a good long time; that is as soon as i can get one for a good deal with out contract.
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Well said band27! Definately check the HTC devices & hang out on XDA!
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Yeah specially N1 thats coming out lol there is some stuff on n1user.com
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I plan to buy a Touch pro, but I have a few concerns.
I spent hours reading the forums here, but I still would like to ask a couple of questions :
(BTW, I currently own an XDA IIi)
- the screen size : I am used to my 3.5" XDA IIi screen, and I don't know if I will really miss the size despite the improved resolution on TP. What do you think of the Touch Pro screen ? Is it OK for browsing? games?
- Windows Mobile 7 : I know it's a bit early to talk about upgrading to WM 7.0 but if I buy TP, I'll have to keep it for 3 years (just as I did with my XDAIIi). I know it's highly improbable that HTC releases an official update but what about unofficial roms here? I lived a true nightmare with my XDAIIi, which is BTW a very good PPC, but the lack of WM updates killed the device as an increasing number of applications won't run on WM2003SE.
Is it true that WM 7.0 will require multitouch screens?
- Google Android : there's a working version on Kaiser. Is there any chance Android will be ported to TP?
- Community size : I am surprised by the small community size on the Raphael forums. Well, it ain't very small but it's way smaller than Diamond's or Kaiser's for instance ! Only a few cooked ROMs (compared to Diamond again), many "chiefs" were supposed to buy the TP, but they still didn't and with the announcement of Touch HD, I'm afraid they won't ! I hope I'm wrong, though !
- Issues and bugs : I know there will be bugs, but is the device "more buggy" than the previous HTC models?
P.S. I thought about getting a Diamond but the lack of microSD and the 900 mAh battery are unacceptable for me. Moreover, the keyboard and the TV-out are certainly a plus !
I also cannot wait for Touch HD (which seems pretty decent ) simply because there are no HTC devices in my place, and my only chance to get one is during my travel to Dubai in October !
I plan to buy a Touch pro, but I have a few concerns.
I spent hours reading the forums here, but I still would like to ask a couple of questions :
(BTW, I currently own an XDA IIi)
- the screen size : I am used to my 3.5" XDA IIi screen, and I don't know if I will really miss the size despite the improved resolution on TP. What do you think of the Touch Pro screen ? Is it OK for browsing? games?
It's great, the resolution makes it look so much nicer. Don't know if I'd watch a full movie on it, then again I wouldn't watch a full movie on an iPhone, I don't like staring at sub-5-inch screens for 3 hours.
- Windows Mobile 7 : I know it's a bit early to talk about upgrading to WM 7.0 but if I buy TP, I'll have to keep it for 3 years (just as I did with my XDAIIi). I know it's highly improbable that HTC releases an official update but what about unofficial roms here? I lived a true nightmare with my XDAIIi, which is BTW a very good PPC, but the lack of WM updates killed the device as an increasing number of applications won't run on WM2003SE.
Is it true that WM 7.0 will require multitouch screens?
Multi-touch is all in the software (I thought?), same screen hardware... But there's no way to know what it will require or support yet.
- Google Android : there's a working version on Kaiser. Is there any chance Android will be ported to TP?
I'd give it a 90% chance that eventually we'll have it happen. It's even on devices like the Blue Angel.
- Community size : I am surprised by the small community size on the Raphael forums. Well, it ain't very small but it's way smaller than Diamond's or Kaiser's for instance ! Only a few cooked ROMs (compared to Diamond again), many "chiefs" were supposed to buy the TP, but they still didn't and with the announcement of Touch HD, I'm afraid they won't ! I hope I'm wrong, though !
It's more expensive than the Diamond, it hasn't even been released on the US by ANY carrier, I wouldn't worry about the amount of developers out there... Once the prices go down with contracts here in the states you'll see a lot more. (Think of how many people in the Kaiser section bought it for $299 with AT&T)
- Issues and bugs : I know there will be bugs, but is the device "more buggy" than the previous HTC models?
Meh, I didn't see many bugs on my AT&T version at all, but the HTC ROM is slow as hell so I've been told. I'm sure ROM updates in the future will speed it up, the Sprint version looks quite fast as well.
P.S. I thought about getting a Diamond but the lack of microSD and the 900 mAh battery are unacceptable for me. Moreover, the keyboard and the TV-out are certainly a plus !
Agreed, no way 4GB fixed storage is enough (Garmin Mobile XT maps of North America is like 3.75 GB alone!)
I also cannot wait for Touch HD (which seems pretty decent ) simply because there are no HTC devices in my place, and my only chance to get one is during my travel to Dubai in October !
Keep in mind, the Touch HD won't have a keyboard... Quite a setback.
Hope I've helped, any more questions, ask away.
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I plan to buy a Touch pro, but I have a few concerns.
I spent hours reading the forums here, but I still would like to ask a couple of questions :....
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Well, the screen size just a compromise between size and usability. Since it's a VGA screen you will probably get almost the same screen estate as with your current PDA.
Windows 7, will probably find it's way on Touch Pro. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Multitouch is not based in software, but in Hardware. A phone either has Multitouch either doesn’t. You can't install multitouch... But again, I wouldn't worry about it. Windows 7 doesn't require Multitouch, but they support it.
Google Android will probably find its way on TP soon. If it can run on a Kaiser, it can run on a TP soon.
As for the community size, it will grow. Besides, except ROMS everything else (Themes, Apps, etc) are shared with the Diamond developers.
The device is definitely less buggy than any older HTC model. It works like a charm, right out the box. Any issue that you will face, it will be fixed with a search in the forum...
Finally (It was a lengthy post this one...), Touch HD is actually scheduled for October. So you might get lucky with your visit in Dubai...
Good luck with your choice mate... Hopefully I helped a bit.
Just a small comment about touch screens...
Multitouch screens are COMPLETELY different from single touch ones.
Multitouch requires capacitive screens (just like the Iphone)... these work like a notebook touchpad for example... You have to use your own bare fingers to use those.
Cheers
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Windows 7, will probably find it's way on Touch Pro. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Multitouch is not based in software, but in Hardware. A phone either has Multitouch either doesn’t. You can't install multitouch... But again, I wouldn't worry about it. Windows 7 doesn't require Multitouch, but they support it.
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It seems I wasn't fast enough to answer
Thank you for your quick and thorough replies
As for the HD, no keyboard is a drawback but I like the screen If I find it in Dubai (I'll be there till October, 30th), I may buy it (not sure though, it depends on the price, the initial reviews etc...)
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The device is definitely not less buggy than any older HTC model. It works like a charm, right out the box. Any issue that you will face, it will be fixed with a search in the forum...
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I think there's a typo here ! I think you meant : "not more buggy"
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I think there's a typo here ! I think you meant : "not more buggy"
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Yes! I have to correct that...
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Finally (It was a lengthy post this one...), Touch HD is actually scheduled for October. So you might get lucky with your visit in Dubai...
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Source plz? I haven't heard anything about a Touch HD release.
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Source plz? I haven't heard anything about a Touch HD release.
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I read somewhere it will be in November. Nonetheless, there's the Gitex electronics trade show in Dubai in late October (a great one apparently). It might be an opportunity for HTC to launch the device !
Thundarr The Barbarian said:
Source plz? I haven't heard anything about a Touch HD release.
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Most of the sites talk about a Christmas release. Sure Christmas is in December, but holiday period starts from early November.
I have to admit that I was a bit optimistic when mentioning October! But the pictures and videos we see reveal a product very close to production... We also have October as the month that HTC will release Touch Viva and 3G...
Hi all
I looking for a UK mobile phone that does the following:
Wifi
GPS
Windows mobile
It must be as small as possible. Loading new firmware/software on is no problem. Secondhand or brand new. Open to options on the price.
What are your suggestions?
whats your budget? if you want a nice one, htc touch diamond is thin and small, probably the best if ur open on price. if you want a cheaper one, the kaiser might work although it is big. windows mobile phones generally arent small, especially the ones from htc. try looking to samsung, lg, and other companies, im not familiar so i cant provide much insight..
Samsun Omnia all the way!
I would say, forget about HTC and get yourself a SAMSUNG Omnia!
Latest HTC models, including Diamond, Kaiser, Touch Pro, Touch HD and many others have problem with GPS lag, bad or no video drivers, and many other irritating and annoying bugs!
Samsung Omnia has none of these problems!
ya thats what i would say. im dumping my diamond on ebay so if you want it, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260336534297.
is there a huge user-based discussion board like the htc specifically for that device tho? thats what im worried about. flashing roms and other stuff wouldnt be the same without dedicated cookers.
my main question for anyone here is which one is better out of the 3: Samsung Omnia, Sony Xperia X1, or HTC Touch HD/Touch Pro?
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my main question for anyone here is which one is better out of the 3: Samsung Omnia, Sony Xperia X1, or HTC Touch HD/Touch Pro?
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Here's some interesting results where the HD came out ahead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462781
Vero44 said:
Hi all
I looking for a UK mobile phone that does the following:
Wifi
GPS
Windows mobile
It must be as small as possible. Loading new firmware/software on is no problem. Secondhand or brand new. Open to options on the price.
What are your suggestions?
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Welcome
I would recommend you to look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
And you´ll see what XDA members think about the best device
My recommendation is an HTC definetly! as you will have the great support and knowledge of this great site
Once you check here: http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdachooser
According to your needs and $$ you´ll be able to decide
Good luck,
Thanks for the suggestions so far. Budget is an issue but I'd not like to restrict choice at the moment as I'd like to see what's out there that fits the bill first. Besides, mobile phone operators here often give the phones away or sell them cheaply to get your business so retail price is not always what you pay.
Any more suggestions?
if u dont have to have windows, u can try a blackberry, iphone (not recommended, overrated crap in my view), or the nokia high end ones that run symbian.
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ya thats what i would say. im dumping my diamond on ebay so if you want it, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260336534297.
is there a huge user-based discussion board like the htc specifically for that device tho? thats what im worried about. flashing roms and other stuff wouldnt be the same without dedicated cookers.
my main question for anyone here is which one is better out of the 3: Samsung Omnia, Sony Xperia X1, or HTC Touch HD/Touch Pro?
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Omnia forum should serve you as a "Huge user-based discussion board", and yes there are dedicated cookers for the device
I used to have Touch pro and Touch Diamond and I can say that both of them are no match comparing to omnia, and what I can make out from reading the threads on the Touch HD forum, it has the same hardware as Touch pro, and it also has the same buggs! Meaning that it has GPS lag, crapy video performance, and probably some other things as well!
Omnia is just much more snappier, yes it has less ram, but really, comparing to the other devices it´s much quicker!
Oh and please, if you have the possibillity to test all devices for comparison please do that, don´t trust the performence tests that you can find on various sites, that is only numbers that looks good on paper, but in reality it really is not at all that good!
Just go and read in the Touch pro or Touch HD forum, search for posts about performance or GPS lag or video drivers, and you will understand what I mean!
Also there are several youtube videos showing the many issues these devices have!
Oh and I just have to mention that I have had about 10 different HTC devices so far over the years, and almost all of them has been just as crappy! The only HTC device that I still own, and that actually outperforms the new HTC devices that are sold today is the good old Universal!
Anyway, good luck with your decision and let us know if you have any more questions! Would be good to know what you decide in the end, and why you decided for that particular device! Hope to hear from you soon!
Speaking to my current provider O2, I can get either an XDA ignito or a Samsung Pixon, both on very good tariffs. Both have wifi, the Samsung seems to have a great camera (8MegaPixel) but it's the phone, GPS and WiFi I shall use the most.
Any comments to help me choose between these 2?
i am going to point out the obvious in case someone else stumbles over this thread, the Ignito is a re-badged Touch Diamond Personally i have no observations to make as i have been happy with my HTC devices so far.
Finances prevent me from looking into the latest and greatest, my Trinity does all i need of it. If i want a digital camera i have a pocket sized Fuji, and mobile music is catered for by an iPod Classic, 120Gb, so no shortage of music there.
Please recommend me a new handset as I'm getting the bug for a new one again and I'm a bit out of touch.
I've had just about every handset HTC has ever made since the very first XDA I.
I'm not put off by size (I love and still use my Athena)
Must be fast and good at playing video/divx etc
Prefer some kind of flash.
I kinda like the Pro2 but worried its just a pretty face and no big performance increase?
Also concidering a Hero but worried about Android. Can I transfer all contacts, calender etc over ok?
Suggestions on a postcard please
The HD2 LEO is the latest and greatest with Snapdragon! See it's section for details:http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=532
But if u want a keyboard, then the TP2.
Touch Pro 2 is the best hardware keyboard device!
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
I strongly recommend you to buy Touch Pro 2. It is more than just a pretty face. It has a tilting screen. It allows for optimum viewing angle when typing, it allows you to easily watch a movie without holding your device, and it's great if you're using GPS navigation in the car.
Thanks guys, any comments on the Hero?
Are they easy to mod and transfer contacts etc from WM?
Hero comments here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143
All HTC devices can be modded thanks to XDA!!
All can be done (almost all )
Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.
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Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Made me laugh.
orb3000 said:
We always want more!!
Snapdragon in a few years will be nothing and we still want more speed, more performance......
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Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!
don't worry about Android. I am a long time WM user, and had a G1 phone for almost a year now. Android is a very very nice system with a lot of software in the Marketplace.
That being said, I just got myself the new Acer neoTouch.
1 GHz Snapdragon, good amout of RAM, nice 3,8" WVGA screen, WM 6.5, configurable accelerometer, nice design, good build quality.
I would say, if you don't need a keyboard and don't want to wait for the HD2, this is the best device today. it is very speedy, has good usability and seems reliable so far.
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Motorola Droid is announced tomorrow.
It'll blow the pants of anything we've seen yet.
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Shame it´s not an HTC device so it won´t have the great support of this forum. I´ll stick to HTC
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Made me laugh.
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Me too
galaxys said:
Hey orb, maybe there will be no keyboard and just visual & voice interface!
Also, there will be Kryptonite Batteries that go a year w/o a recharge!
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LOL
Yeah mate, you are right
got it today, it's up and running like a champ! was wondering if anyone had some app or customization tips for me while I wait for the ROM chefs to catch up. I've heard quite a bit about mobile shell, is it worth it?
So far I have found the phone to be very fast and smooth, the keyboard is almost too big but I'm getting used to it. The touchscreen is very responsive, easily as good as the tilt2 I tried out, though as I've seen others opine, it's best when using fingernails I think. I'm still getting used to navigating the OS right now though.
Any word on when this phone might get dedicated forums like the others?
treiz said:
got it today, it's up and running like a champ! was wondering if anyone had some app or customization tips for me while I wait for the ROM chefs to catch up. I've heard quite a bit about mobile shell, is it worth it?
So far I have found the phone to be very fast and smooth, the keyboard is almost too big but I'm getting used to it. The touchscreen is very responsive, easily as good as the tilt2 I tried out, though as I've seen others opine, it's best when using fingernails I think. I'm still getting used to navigating the OS right now though.
Any word on when this phone might get dedicated forums like the others?
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Congratulations on your new device! Unfortunately, XDA-Developers is an HTC device forum, and therefore won't create dedicated forums for non-HTC devices. Every device on this board, including the Sony Xperia and both Palm Treos, is an HTC, and I doubt that the HTC-only rule will change soon. However, most of the apps here will still work fine on your eXpo, and you're still welcome to discuss the device in places like the General Forum.
I'm gonna look at this phone when the pico projector comes out, but the Expo isn't at the ATT store to even touch it, yet
im using the xperia, iphone, and tilt 2 right now...i was very excited about this phone because of the snapdragon processor...but being LG i dunno if i should...maybe u can post a small review...hows video playback on it there and camcorder so on etc...waiting for the pico add on as well.
indeed mine is on the way. and i'm sure spb mobile shell 3.5.1 will be one of the first few things i try out on the phone. and i'd like to check out touch response and i'll probably put chome and reStart on depending on what build of 6.5 it comes out of the box with. i hate not being able to arrange my start menu the way i like. chome and total commander really help with icon changing and subfolders. i'd look into those if you want to mod. id also check out advanced config tools. all those should work on your 6.5 smartphone without a problem
p.s. if you feel up for it and really wanna get down and dirty. you could try dumping your rom. and uploading it for us to take a look at?
also feel free to stop by and join my new social group for the lg expo / iq / monaco
http://forum.xda-developers.com/group.php?groupid=159
meh
Do I need to unlock it before it is dumped? I'll do it if you have a walk through or some instructions that you can point me toward.
Well, I spent all last night and every spare moment at work playing with the device. Installed Bing, Skyfire, Opera 10, and a few others. I made it through the day without needing a recharge. While the hardware is great, I like the heft and size very much, I think the software is still a bit rough. There's a lot of reduntdancy, and it's not as finger friendly as I'd like, even some of the newer apps, but the sensor and arrow keys and the finger nails have managed just fine. All in all it feels as though the software in general could use some optimization.
My only complaint so far is that the touch sensor isn't quite as good as the one on the new blackberries, but it works. I'm starting to get the hang of Winmo 6.5, there are some quirks with the back button that I can't tell if it's Winmo or the LG software, but the apps work with it fine.
I tried out the camera and I can safely say it beats the pants off my old G1, but that's not saying much. It has auto focus and white balance, as well as a really nice touch control interface, and the flash is powerful.
Hi all .
Let me just start by saying that i would love to hear your opinions but if you offer them please also put why you think, feel or know that opinion is right or wrong.
So i am very soon to quit smoking and i'm going to put all of my hard earned and non smoked away cash into a new phone. I will be heading for an HTC as i love my diamond 2 the only thing letting it down is the speed to be honest . Now when i do get a phone i will certainly be going into a shop to test out the phones before i buy as i believe you really have to have a play first but considering money will have no constraint on which phone i actually get which phone would you go for and why?
I'll be honest and say i do love speed on a mobile device which points me to the desire or desire HD (yes i know they are android) but i have read in this forum that some pure and simply can't find a decent satnav app which really stops me dead as i use garmin on the diamond quite a lot. This in turn leads me to the hd2(leo) or hd7 as they are both winmo devices and will run garmin xt. with speed in mind that leads me to the hd7 but to be honest i can't be alone in thinking the ui on win7 devices looks really plain and boring to me - i like seing the weather and stuff on my main screen - the other choice is the leo which i understand will not be as good a screen (although good in its own right) and have less functions as an earlier model should.
now each has their own plus and minus points but please share with me your experiences and any info you would like to impart as i would love to hear it.
Thanks for your time
There are plenty of good sat-nav options on Android! Have you looked?
Aside from the usual pay ones like Co-Pilot there's the option of using the free Google Navigation. It's what i use and it works better than many pay ones i've used previously.
HTC Desire Z or HD very good options
yes it s right and in google you can find some good ones
Thanks for the replies don't get me wrong i haven't discounted any of the HTC phones yet and haven't looked for nav software yet just going off what i had read in the forum for some people keeping wm on their phone just to use the satnav software on it.
In terms of speed the android models do appear to run faster?
anyone have any preference with hd2 and hd7 if there is a speed difference sure the hd7 is a lovely option like i said it's only really the ui that puts me off as i really do think it looks terrible for a home screen?