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help for business use!

my company (fairly large but will remain nameless) is testing the gtablet with intents to use it as a inventory/shipping tool. I have some HIGH up people asking if its possible and my answer at the time is "NO"....the hardware as we all know is plenty solid but the OS is TERRIBLE! Im looking to streamline this thing (if possible) to make it responsive and reliable with what you want it to do. So the real question is what do i need to do? I of course tried the stock OS and that doesnt work. right now im on the CyanogenMod OS and it is still just to clunky to work in a business. Any ideas of what i need to do or try? Any help would be great guys...and thanks in advance
Chuddly

chuddly said:
my company (fairly large but will remain nameless) is testing the gtablet with intents to use it as a inventory/shipping tool. I have some HIGH up people asking if its possible and my answer at the time is "NO"....the hardware as we all know is plenty solid but the OS is TERRIBLE! Im looking to streamline this thing (if possible) to make it responsive and reliable with what you want it to do. So the real question is what do i need to do? I of course tried the stock OS and that doesnt work. right now im on the CyanogenMod OS and it is still just to clunky to work in a business. Any ideas of what i need to do or try? Any help would be great guys...and thanks in advance
Chuddly
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Probably best served using Vegan b3. It is super stable - very fast. and supports enterprise WPA2.

I think your biggest problem is going to be the size of it. Recently I wandered into an Apple store and was shocked to see ipads strapped to the hands of most of the workers, even with a case with a handstrap the devices looked a bit bulky and awkward to use. The gtab is certainly no smaller than the ipad and without some kind of case that gives it some protection and allows it to be attached to the worker (ie. handstrap), I can't see this being easily used in a shipping or inventory environment. I think really a 5"-7" device would be easier to use in that type of situation. Just my 2 cents.

akodoreign said:
Probably best served using Vegan b3. It is super stable - very fast. and supports enterprise WPA2.
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it sounds like what i am looking for but where do i get it and all that? any problems with it that i should know about? any limitations?

cshehan said:
I think your biggest problem is going to be the size of it. Recently I wandered into an Apple store and was shocked to see ipads strapped to the hands of most of the workers, even with a case with a handstrap the devices looked a bit bulky and awkward to use. The gtab is certainly no smaller than the ipad and without some kind of case that gives it some protection and allows it to be attached to the worker (ie. handstrap), I can't see this being easily used in a shipping or inventory environment. I think really a 5"-7" device would be easier to use in that type of situation. Just my 2 cents.
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the size is actually to our advantage (with the use of a case/strap device i have found) because our inventory system uses MANY lines of part numbers that would be impossible to see well (without zooming) on the smaller tablets

chuddly said:
it sounds like what i am looking for but where do i get it and all that? any problems with it that i should know about? any limitations?
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In the development section of this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859884
Some graphics tearing (Only between screens, like when the browser first loads), is fixed in prototype 12 but that isn't released yet.
Quick office and angry birds works flawlessly.
far as limit's go... *Shrug* I use it at work all the time.
When its in my homemade stand it's playing tune - in radio while I rebuild computers.
When I'm in the field i use it to access our intranet and check on and close service tickets.
I can download drivers and put them on a flash drive.
I can surf the web and do google searches on it to do feild trouble shooting.
It's not heavy at all, so it doesn't weigh down my satchel (as I call it my man purse).
So in my line of work it's a perfect companion, But I have no idea if it would work for you

My 2 cents: As soon as you mention the enterprise, you should really talk to Adam Hanin ("OfficialViewSonic", here in XDA). It's mainly a support concern - these mods are built with the idea that its for personal use, but rolling them out to users in a large company means that you'd want the build being used to be fully supported by Viewsonic.
Right off the bat, you'll have issues with support hours, since their CS is not 24/7. What would happen, for example, if you deployed this and you had issues on a Sunday? Or at 11pm on a weekday? Things like that. Plus, they wouldn't support a modded build, unless you managed to sign some type of contract with them.

i understand the full support but in a larger company we are testing ONLY at this point and it could be some time before we get to a product that rolls out to the work force of our company. Right now we are just trying to prove that it can be done with the gtablet on a basic level (kind of one of those show them what they want to see things). and i do believe the gtablet can produce that given a stable and responsive OS and the VEGAn seems to be a good prospect for testing at least. Anyone have a link to a walkthrough on installing it? I think its worth a shot. if worse comes to worse i just reinstall the stock OS

I don't think anyone has written anything extensive on the VEGAn, yet. There's some documentation for TnT Lite that would apply to VEGAn:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
The only difference would be the ZIP file being used for the build.

chuddly said:
i understand the full support but in a larger company we are testing ONLY at this point and it could be some time before we get to a product that rolls out to the work force of our company. Right now we are just trying to prove that it can be done with the gtablet on a basic level (kind of one of those show them what they want to see things). and i do believe the gtablet can produce that given a stable and responsive OS and the VEGAn seems to be a good prospect for testing at least. Anyone have a link to a walkthrough on installing it? I think its worth a shot. if worse comes to worse i just reinstall the stock OS
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I would def mention to your management that Vegan is a hacked version of the G tab and not the way they would get it out of the box. Like Roebeet just stated usually large companies want something fully supported by the manufacturer in case an issue arrises. For example, your running Vegan and call viewsonic tech support and they cant help you with anything since you are using a hacked version of the device. I would think large companies would steer clear of using something like this regardless if its just a testing phase or not.

Acturbo said:
I would def mention to your management that Vegan is a hacked version of the G tab and not the way they would get it out of the box. Like Roebeet just stated usually large companies want something fully supported by the manufacturer in case an issue arrises. For example, your running Vegan and call viewsonic tech support and they cant help you with anything since you are using a hacked version of the device. I would think large companies would steer clear of using something like this regardless if its just a testing phase or not.
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...plus according to A. Hanin this week's update will allow booting in stock fw to a more vanillalike Android experience, but if you need flash you'd still have to sideload it, plus you'd maybe want to re-package the current fw anyways to include clockwork mod as a better backup/restore option... unless VS does the smart thing and ships something similar in recovery functionality in stock fw...

A thought

When all the hype of the sensation and G2x settles down and G2x gets Gingerbread, I think people are going to start choosing G2x over Sensation and devs should start (again) developing like crazy for the G2x since it will be running vanilla gingerbread with the super awesome Tegra 2.
Anyway, I think people is comparing the two phones and will be for like a full month and then will see people settling with either one of the two and a personally G2x will be the keeper.
I'm pretty confident and happy with my purchase since release date, 4/20.
Sent from my G2x

The devs aren't stopping .

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The devs aren't stopping .
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so tito? you talk to LG girl lately? whats the word.. I want GB nooooow.lol

You are right, but it is also right that development is slow right now
BTW, T-Mobile needs to start selling the G2x.
Seriously, This phone is one of the best if not the best in USA right now.
Sent from my G2x

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The devs aren't stopping .
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I glad there not.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App

smashpunks said:
so tito? you talk to LG girl lately? whats the word.. I want GB nooooow.lol
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Haha, nope, but I will soon. I will try and get some word from LG or her. Most likely the 21st, since its the start of summer.

moshe22 said:
When all the hype of the sensation and G2x settles down and G2x gets Gingerbread, I think people are going to start choosing G2x over Sensation and devs should start (again) developing like crazy for the G2x since it will be running vanilla gingerbread with the super awesome Tegra 2.
Anyway, I think people is comparing the two phones and will be for like a full month and then will see people settling with either one of the two and a personally G2x will be the keeper.
I'm pretty confident and happy with my purchase since release date, 4/20.
Sent from my G2x
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Exactly, this was my strategy from launch day. To have vanilla Gingergread running on the G2x's Tegra 2 by summertime. The long term potential of this device is excellent.

*Omnipresent* said:
The long term potential of this device is excellent.
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This is what led me to buy it in the first place. I wish more people could see this instead of giving up so quickly.

phburks said:
This is what led me to buy it in the first place. I wish more people could see this instead of giving up so quickly.
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Actually, I think we are better off without the people who are giving up. The people leaving in a large part are people who will never be satisfied with the phone. Either they bought it because it was the new super phone and were disappointed with Vanilla Android, or they expected perfection and were disillusioned by a few bugs. I do have to acknowledge there are a few who did get genuinely bad devices (sometimes more than once). Their departure is perhaps regrettable. But by and large we are better off without them. I also think it is a much smaller minority than it appears. Due to the highly vocal nature of those who have moved (or are moving) on.
With the detractors mostly gone and their phones in the hands of others who will appreciate them more, I believe we will be a stronger community.
Just my opinion...of course...

bdkinney said:
Actually, I think we are better off without the people who are giving up. The people leaving in a large part are people who will never be satisfied with the phone. Either they bought it because it was the new super phone and were disappointed with Vanilla Android, or they expected perfection and were disillusioned by a few bugs. I do have to acknowledge there are a few who did get genuinely bad devices (sometimes more than once). Their departure is perhaps regrettable. But by and large we are better off without them. I also think it is a much smaller minority than it appears. Due to the highly vocal nature of those who have moved (or are moving) on.
With the detractors mostly gone and their phones in the hands of others who will appreciate them more, I believe we will be a stronger community.
Just my opinion...of course...
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I agree
Specially and hopefully to this
"I believe we will be a stronger community"
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Sent from my G2x

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Actually, I think we are better off without the people who are giving up. The people leaving in a large part are people who will never be satisfied with the phone. Either they bought it because it was the new super phone and were disappointed with Vanilla Android, or they expected perfection and were disillusioned by a few bugs. I do have to acknowledge there are a few who did get genuinely bad devices (sometimes more than once). Their departure is perhaps regrettable. But by and large we are better off without them. I also think it is a much smaller minority than it appears. Due to the highly vocal nature of those who have moved (or are moving) on.
With the detractors mostly gone and their phones in the hands of others who will appreciate them more, I believe we will be a stronger community.
Just my opinion...of course...
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It's true. I just want people to experience what this phone will be because it's a powerful and good looking piece of hardware. The software will only keep getting better, and that will be an awesome combination.

Lol yes. Let those people go. We dont care! Love my g2x!

Love my g2x

Notion Ink Honeycomb beta has been released

Link: http://conclave.notionink.com/showthread.php?767-Honeycomb (I assume this is OK, as you don't need to register to get the ROM. I haven't registered).
This will boot off a 1.2-based GTAB, I used 4349 stock as my baseline. Requires a data wipe, post install. Gsensor and camera are broken with this ROM, FYI. I haven't tried a 1.1-based GTAB but I'm fairly certain it would soft-brick - there's a boot.img in the ROM.
Initial thoughts: Seems similar to the Tabletroms HC16 / Beast kernel already in existence. Haven't gotten to Flash video yet, but high-def video playback is broken for me, so far. Google Market is missing, for reasons unknown (legal reasons? Not sure).
Just a heads up that they did release this.

Damn. It doesn't sound any different from the ports we already have.

I haven't found anything of major importance yet. Mostly HC16 with some tweaks to make it more "Adam" branded.
Still, it's refreshing to see a company making the attempt. Viewsonic, you watching? Where's that new 1.2 ROM?

i thought the biggest thing would be drivers.... guess not. looks like if you have to install gapps after installing the rom the second post had the gapps dl

roebeet said:
I haven't found anything of major importance yet. Mostly HC16 with some tweaks to make it more "Adam" branded.
Still, it's refreshing to see a company making the attempt. Viewsonic, you watching? Where's that new 1.2 ROM?
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roebeet,
You know I'm a big fan, but isn't what NI did, essentially releasing the work of the Tabletrom guys, the same as if Viewsonic took one of your roms, made a new bootscreen, and released it?
I'm just sayin...
MC

I think you're not far off the mark - I haven't done a diff yet, but it does seem very similar.
Granted, I can't really say anything since my BoS mod is essentially the same thing. But I actually give those devs a nod not only in my update.zip, but also in my boot up screen. In NI's defense however, they've mentioned Tabletroms several times in their recent blog posts.
My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).

Roebeet, I know you are very busy. Didn't a big shot at Viewsonic like a VP of marketing used to read this site. Has something changed. When I called Viewsonic recently the phone messaging system seemed like it was a fifth party support for a fourth party support of a third party support company. I hope you get my meaning. I have not heard or seen anything from Viewsonic in a long time. The news release on their web site makes a big deal out of releasing 3588. Which was actually a recall of the 1.2 bootloader. Have they stopped all support for the G tablet?

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My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).
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I wouldn't be surprised if you're right there.
I think where we've all been failed, and I've been a long time droid owner, now a droid thunderbolt, is Google's release cycle. The original droid came out with 2.0 on it and it was ok, but within a month of any official release of the OS, the code was released on AOSP, and so you could count on the devs to release good ROMS way before the handset manufacturers and carriers did. In the period between release on any one handset, and AOSP you would get the "kang'd" roms. Those are roms cobbled together with bits and bobs from releases for other phones, or betas, etc., and they were pretty good, certainly good enough to hold you over until AOSP became the latest Cyanogenmod and other assorted roms.
So I bought my GTab based on the assumption (mine, and incorrect), that shortly after the XOOM came out there would be kang'd roms that worked pretty well, followed by an AOSP release that the devs turned in to something better than what the XOOM had on it.
I never really cared what Viewsonic did from the standpoint of support because I assumed the minute I bought the GTab that it would be rooted and run better ROMS than they would ever put out, and that was true for Froyo, and is almost there for Gingerbread. HC, we'll see...
Everything that's happened, Google not releasing HC to AOSP, NVidia not getting drivers to devs, has lead to a much more disappointing experience than I expected on this particular device.
Eh, the more I write the more frustrated I sound. I'll stop for now.
MC

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Roebeet, I know you are very busy. Didn't a big shot at Viewsonic like a VP of marketing used to read this site. Has something changed. When I called Viewsonic recently the phone messaging system seemed like it was a fifth party support for a fourth party support of a third party support company. I hope you get my meaning. I have not heard or seen anything from Viewsonic in a long time. The news release on their web site makes a big deal out of releasing 3588. Which was actually a recall of the 1.2 bootloader. Have they stopped all support for the G tablet?
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The Viewsonic from December 2010 is not the same Viewsonic post-April 2011. Yes, they used to read this forum and their customer service area did too. When we were grumbling about things like Angry Birds support and Flash back then, they (or whoever was developing for them) delivered and right before Christmas, I might add. I had hopes that they would give us continued support. You don't even want to know what I think now -- I've actually been retrained here and in Slatedroid, believe it or not. If I wrote how I really feel, the moderators would have to delete the post due to language.
As for Notion Ink, I have mixed feelings. I am certainly disappointed with both the GB and HC efforts so far, but at least they've had recent Froyo updates. At least they have a vendor blog and a forum. That's more than what we have with our vendor. I know that Google's stance on HC is partly to blame for all this, but Viewsonic's silence isn't helping.

Well that sucks. Way to over hype a release Notion Ink! Pee on you!

roebeet said:
My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).
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Yeah, I've been wondering that too. When I first heard NI was officially releasing a Honeycomb ROM, I assumed they got the source code, because how can you have an official release of it without getting google's permission (from a legal standpoint)? But when I read their blog post earlier today and realized they were essentially using the tabletrom effort, I thought "uh oh, this won't last very long". I hope google doesn't step in to stop continued progress, because I'm still wishing for a fully functional version of Honeycomb for the gtab (or at least mostly functional with flash; that's the only thing that's prevented me from switching already).

I apologize if this has been discussed already, but why can't notion ink get honeycomb source? I mean jeez, asus, acer, toshiba, viewsonic etc... are all releasing honeycomb tablets. Seems like if you are a legit company, ask and you shall receive.
Seems to me either
1. Google refused them source. Or..
2. Already focusing on adam 2, they are content with just lazily releasing a community mod as their own.
I'd be ticked if I was an adam owner. Gtab owners knew going in that the community was going to be their sole support. But if I put up with that circus that was the notion ink adam, I expected at least official honeycomb support.
Sent from my T-mobile G2

It's not the vendor, I think it's the hardware. Elocity, Gtablet, Olipad, Hannspad, Folio, VEGA and yes the Adam - all Harmony devices. Google has seemingly ignored that platform, as well as Nvidia. I almost wonder if Notion Ink wants to get caught with their hands in the Honeycomb jar - would at least make Google stand up and finally take notice to a Harmony vendor.
I know that us GTAB'ers didn't expect much of a future, but we know Honeycomb can work given enough resources. This whole situation has totally soured me in regards to Android tablets, and Nvidia devices in particular.

I didn't expect much when I got my GTab just wanted a cool tab to read and play a few games. I personally am probably gonna get an hp touchpad and give my mom my GTab so she can play games and video chat with her BF when he is in Iraq

Notion Ink Blog
Read the June 25th entry:
http://notionink.wordpress.com/

roebeet said:
My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).
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What would their motivations be? To make us buy more tablets?
That doesn't seem inline with their "do-no-evil" philosophy, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were to happen, for this reason ;;
But would it be Google that would issue such a request, or the companies that took the Honeycomb platform and developed firmware specifically for their products? I would guess the latter, since it's probably with them that we entered a "thou shalt not reverse compile thine firmware, for it is holy" agreement, not with Google.

scyld said:
What would their motivations be? To make us buy more tablets?
That doesn't seem inline with their "do-no-evil" philosophy, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were to happen, for this reason ;;
But would it be Google that would issue such a request, or the companies that took the Honeycomb platform and developed firmware specifically for their products? I would guess the latter, since it's probably with them that we entered a "thou shalt not reverse compile thine firmware, for it is holy" agreement, not with Google.
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I think you're saying, if someone takes a ROM and modifies it to run on the Notion Adam, and then the folks at Notion stick that ROM on their website, Notion might get served a request to take that ROM down. I dunno, it's open source so other parties have every right to take the code, modify it, and distribute it.

Hello I have the gtab the stock rom, if I make the root with SuperOneClick I can then apply honeycomb update.zip?

StereoD said:
Hello I have the gtab the stock rom, if I make the root with SuperOneClick I can then apply honeycomb update.zip?
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You don't have to root the device before running one of these ROM updates - the GTAB's stock recovery is not locked down and can accept custom ROM's.
As always, read the modder's directions as they might require things as a pre-requisite. For example, cyanagenmod usually requires clockworkmod as a pre-req. Again, best to ask the modder if it's not stated in their post.

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You don't have to root the device before running one of these ROM updates - the GTAB's stock recovery is not locked down and can accept custom ROM's.
As always, read the modder's directions as they might require things as a pre-requisite. For example, cyanagenmod usually requires clockworkmod as a pre-req. Again, best to ask the modder if it's not stated in their post.
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Means that it is possible to apply the update.zip in the stock rom on gtab? I can download the file and then apply it in recovery mode?

[Q] I Can Haz Ice Cream?

So its going to be released pretty soon.. what are the odds of the Captivate getting some love?
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/19/in...axy-nexus-and-ice-cream-sandwich-android-4-0/

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go with 'Nil.'

The chances are non existent. It just makes business sense for for these updates to take forever. I do understand there are some hardware issues with the updates but in the end the average consumer is going to purchase a new phone or use their upgrade in order to get the latest os. If they keep updating old phones to the newest stuff people would hold onto their phone longer. I mean, ths is the first phone ive ever owned that I could flash custom roms onto. Before this I was locked into the operating system and whatever user interface was on the phone when I purchased it. If I hadnt found this forum or custom roms I would be frustrated by the lack of gingerbread and probably would have used my upgrade by now.

No hope. Most of the features aside from the UI wont work anyways due to not having the hardware (NFC) or lack of CPU and RAM (Camera features).
Just get a nice theme

they have it up and running on fascinates, as of 5AM this morning

We didnt even get official GB and we want ICS.....lol so greedy we people are...

Hell yeah Well rogers got the official gb , but att, com'on, forget about it.

First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.

Be patient. It'll be ported eventually.

I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship

Well, i'd be surprised to see ICS for our captivate. Even if cyanogen mod is getting ICS, i probably won't jump because of the superior call quality and slightly (if not better) battery life on captivate ROMs.

I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.

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First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
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Um I did? - and even the XDA board didn't give me the topic yet so meh.
And someone has this starting to run on the Fascinate?? The Captivate is THE phone that seems to get the most love besides the Vibrant for this range of devices.
And I don't care how we get it... as long as someone is able to wedge it into the phone.

You know, it's open source.
Any of you asking for it can take a crack at it
I am seriously inexperienced, but this might be a good start to a programming career..

erbsmokah said:
I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
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Nope, not even in the ballpark. Google has no legal obligation to any phone. What you are thinking of is how Google made the main phone produces agree to try harder to keep the phones up to date (up to one and a half years past release aka 18months). But that did not extend to the carriers...
Else they have to stop using the "Android" name and Google's apps
leaked from my FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.

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I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
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That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.

lonhanson said:
That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
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not mention i've seen them pretty active in the galaxy nexus forums... might be because they have different priorities right now? once they figure out the newest phone they'll be able to come back and help us?

If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

Saving my money for a Galaxy Nexus

no driver said:
If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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If he does have it running, it's the SDK release and it will be slow as molasses.

Slow Development?

Not to be a downer, but the infinity came out for almost a month and a half now. Yet, the development is really really slow. I think its a great tablet and everything but i also want more dev support.
Did anyone hear any news about dev update from other teams?
Thanks,

ugotproblemz said:
Not to be a downer, but the infinity came out for almost a month and a half now. Yet, the development is really really slow. I think its a great tablet and everything but i also want more dev support.
Did anyone hear any news about dev update from other teams?
Thanks,
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The closest anyone has gotten is birdman which got AOKP to boot. Currently he is trying to fix BT and GPS before releasing anything. You can follow him at https://twitter.com/_mrbirdman_ for updates.

ugotproblemz said:
Not to be a downer, but the infinity came out for almost a month and a half now. Yet, the development is really really slow. I think its a great tablet and everything but i also want more dev support.
Did anyone hear any news about dev update from other teams?
Thanks,
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I was an early adopter of the TF201. It took a while for it to going with nothing but stock roms available for what felt like an eternity. Give it some time and they will start appearing...

ugotproblemz said:
Not to be a downer, but the infinity came out for almost a month and a half now. Yet, the development is really really slow. I think its a great tablet and everything but i also want more dev support.
Did anyone hear any news about dev update from other teams?
Thanks,
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i am sure I am going to get flamed for this, but I have to chime in on this one...six weeks is hardly "slow" for development. This is a) an extremely expensive tablet and most devs pay for their own equipment b) there have been lots of issues around unlocking the bootloaders for ASUS tabs, which is a pre-requisite for tablets, c) JB is just now hitting the streets which impacts development and d) most devs are doing this for the love of it, which means they pretty much all have other things that are full-time occupations.
The fact of the matter is that we do have a couple of custom ROMs out there, so there are devs working on it. It just takes time and goodwill, and a more realistic set of expectations.

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i am sure I am going to get flamed for this, but I have to chime in on this one...six weeks is hardly "slow" for development. This is a) an extremely expensive tablet and most devs pay for their own equipment b) there have been lots of issues around unlocking the bootloaders for ASUS tabs, which is a pre-requisite for tablets, c) JB is just now hitting the streets which impacts development and d) most devs are doing this for the love of it, which means they pretty much all have other things that are full-time occupations.
The fact of the matter is that we do have a couple of custom ROMs out there, so there are devs working on it. It just takes time and goodwill, and a more realistic set of expectations.
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The cost of the tab is a bit intimidating, and also, the new toy is the Nexus 7, as a Google nexus device, is cheap and fun to play with for the devs, who are having a competition to see who can push it the farthest. Lots of great teams are really hung up on it right now, and not showing a lot of desire to pull themselves in a new direction, it seems.
I would also be sceptical about getting a tf700, and sticking my neck out with so many complaints about its build quality and performance. I think it's an amazing device and I love mine, but someone who just casually checks the new device forums might be a bit put off. I know that I was with the Nexus 7, which also had mucho complaints at first. I got mine and it was great, and a lot of people got good ones and then the development floodgates opened wide. The same may happen here.

pbrauer said:
i am sure I am going to get flamed for this, but I have to chime in on this one...six weeks is hardly "slow" for development. This is a) an extremely expensive tablet and most devs pay for their own equipment b) there have been lots of issues around unlocking the bootloaders for ASUS tabs, which is a pre-requisite for tablets, c) JB is just now hitting the streets which impacts development and d) most devs are doing this for the love of it, which means they pretty much all have other things that are full-time occupations.
The fact of the matter is that we do have a couple of custom ROMs out there, so there are devs working on it. It just takes time and goodwill, and a more realistic set of expectations.
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Yea I would second the JB just hitting the streets. Why put so much work developing custom ICS roms when JB is just around the corner?

ugotproblemz said:
Not to be a downer, but the infinity came out for almost a month and a half now. Yet, the development is really really slow. I think its a great tablet and everything but i also want more dev support.
Did anyone hear any news about dev update from other teams?
Thanks,
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Also not to be a downer, but you can always start your own development endeavor to speed things up and have some fun along the way

If I was going to do any dev for this tablet, I would be waiting for the JB update to come out before I started. I expect we'll see more updates once it's out, but as some have already stated, 6 weeks for a new tablet is hardly slow.

I dont think jellybean has anything to do with it... just not many devs picked up on the device... I would love to see miui on this baby. I was thinking about switching to the note 10.1 just BC development looks like its going to be better for that tab but the screen was a let down.
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hopfully...it will make this tab SOOO much better...

Novel idea guys......why not simply do your buildprop tweaks, speed things up a little, and just enjoy the beautiful product that asus has given us, as it is? I love development as much as the next person....but my C7 model Infinity, aside from a little notification menu lag, runs fantastic, stock. I mean.....if you can not enjoy this product even as it is right now, without dicing it up with some currently half-baked efforts. Do you ever really enjoy any of your devices at all, or are you so caught up in the flashing addiction, that you fail to appreciate the truly awesome hardware underneath? I just love owning this little piece of work, walking around with it, being proud that I am an Android owner in a sea of iPad users on campus.
If you must have something custom, then use Zeus. It runs pretty slick as well. I would just stop complaining though everyone, give development time to kick in, and enjoy your product in the time being. I had the Prime, and it took FOREVER for real development to catch on....practically until the day I traded it in for this. LOL

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Novel idea guys......why not simply do your buildprop tweaks, speed things up a little, and just enjoy the beautiful product that asus has given us, as it is? I love development as much as the next person....but my C7 model Infinity, aside from a little notification menu lag, runs fantastic, stock. I mean.....if you can not enjoy this product even as it is right now, without dicing it up with some currently half-baked efforts. Do you ever really enjoy any of your devices at all, or are you so caught up in the flashing addiction, that you fail to appreciate the truly awesome hardware underneath? I just love owning this little piece of work, walking around with it, being proud that I am an Android owner in a sea of iPad users on campus.
If you must have something custom, then use Zeus. It runs pretty slick as well. I would just stop complaining though everyone, give development time to kick in, and enjoy your product in the time being. I had the Prime, and it took FOREVER for real development to catch on....practically until the day I traded it in for this. LOL
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+1 for this response. I have rooted and tweaked my build.prop, and then frozen some of the bloat and am loving the device without having done anything else. Compared to the Prime (I got one of the very early ones and then went through 4 of those) this is SO much better.

Thanks! Yeah, same here. I had an early model Prime, went through no less then thirteen exchanges, the situation barely got better. I traded up on the same money from the Prime, and I have been happy since I had this. It strikes me, as though unlike the Prime, MOST of the flaws, and shortcomings of this device, are thankfully software related, and not hardware. Once applying the proper buildprop tweaks, installing Apex Launcher, and getting my trust application roster settled. I have been happy as a clam. YES, Jellybean, and most definately CM10 will make this device FLY (it almost managed to redeem my Prime even, right before I traded it) and I am as excited, if not more, then the average person, but my Infinity is (thankfully) fully functional, great battery, MOST applications work in some way shape or form, (excepting a few games). I can simply take a look at the Infinity, and tell, by the attention to detail, that this has become asus's baby, and mine as well. I appreciate it, and can wait forever for development to catch on. :laugh: