Link: http://conclave.notionink.com/showthread.php?767-Honeycomb (I assume this is OK, as you don't need to register to get the ROM. I haven't registered).
This will boot off a 1.2-based GTAB, I used 4349 stock as my baseline. Requires a data wipe, post install. Gsensor and camera are broken with this ROM, FYI. I haven't tried a 1.1-based GTAB but I'm fairly certain it would soft-brick - there's a boot.img in the ROM.
Initial thoughts: Seems similar to the Tabletroms HC16 / Beast kernel already in existence. Haven't gotten to Flash video yet, but high-def video playback is broken for me, so far. Google Market is missing, for reasons unknown (legal reasons? Not sure).
Just a heads up that they did release this.
Damn. It doesn't sound any different from the ports we already have.
I haven't found anything of major importance yet. Mostly HC16 with some tweaks to make it more "Adam" branded.
Still, it's refreshing to see a company making the attempt. Viewsonic, you watching? Where's that new 1.2 ROM?
i thought the biggest thing would be drivers.... guess not. looks like if you have to install gapps after installing the rom the second post had the gapps dl
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I haven't found anything of major importance yet. Mostly HC16 with some tweaks to make it more "Adam" branded.
Still, it's refreshing to see a company making the attempt. Viewsonic, you watching? Where's that new 1.2 ROM?
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roebeet,
You know I'm a big fan, but isn't what NI did, essentially releasing the work of the Tabletrom guys, the same as if Viewsonic took one of your roms, made a new bootscreen, and released it?
I'm just sayin...
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I think you're not far off the mark - I haven't done a diff yet, but it does seem very similar.
Granted, I can't really say anything since my BoS mod is essentially the same thing. But I actually give those devs a nod not only in my update.zip, but also in my boot up screen. In NI's defense however, they've mentioned Tabletroms several times in their recent blog posts.
My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).
Roebeet, I know you are very busy. Didn't a big shot at Viewsonic like a VP of marketing used to read this site. Has something changed. When I called Viewsonic recently the phone messaging system seemed like it was a fifth party support for a fourth party support of a third party support company. I hope you get my meaning. I have not heard or seen anything from Viewsonic in a long time. The news release on their web site makes a big deal out of releasing 3588. Which was actually a recall of the 1.2 bootloader. Have they stopped all support for the G tablet?
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My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).
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I wouldn't be surprised if you're right there.
I think where we've all been failed, and I've been a long time droid owner, now a droid thunderbolt, is Google's release cycle. The original droid came out with 2.0 on it and it was ok, but within a month of any official release of the OS, the code was released on AOSP, and so you could count on the devs to release good ROMS way before the handset manufacturers and carriers did. In the period between release on any one handset, and AOSP you would get the "kang'd" roms. Those are roms cobbled together with bits and bobs from releases for other phones, or betas, etc., and they were pretty good, certainly good enough to hold you over until AOSP became the latest Cyanogenmod and other assorted roms.
So I bought my GTab based on the assumption (mine, and incorrect), that shortly after the XOOM came out there would be kang'd roms that worked pretty well, followed by an AOSP release that the devs turned in to something better than what the XOOM had on it.
I never really cared what Viewsonic did from the standpoint of support because I assumed the minute I bought the GTab that it would be rooted and run better ROMS than they would ever put out, and that was true for Froyo, and is almost there for Gingerbread. HC, we'll see...
Everything that's happened, Google not releasing HC to AOSP, NVidia not getting drivers to devs, has lead to a much more disappointing experience than I expected on this particular device.
Eh, the more I write the more frustrated I sound. I'll stop for now.
MC
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Roebeet, I know you are very busy. Didn't a big shot at Viewsonic like a VP of marketing used to read this site. Has something changed. When I called Viewsonic recently the phone messaging system seemed like it was a fifth party support for a fourth party support of a third party support company. I hope you get my meaning. I have not heard or seen anything from Viewsonic in a long time. The news release on their web site makes a big deal out of releasing 3588. Which was actually a recall of the 1.2 bootloader. Have they stopped all support for the G tablet?
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The Viewsonic from December 2010 is not the same Viewsonic post-April 2011. Yes, they used to read this forum and their customer service area did too. When we were grumbling about things like Angry Birds support and Flash back then, they (or whoever was developing for them) delivered and right before Christmas, I might add. I had hopes that they would give us continued support. You don't even want to know what I think now -- I've actually been retrained here and in Slatedroid, believe it or not. If I wrote how I really feel, the moderators would have to delete the post due to language.
As for Notion Ink, I have mixed feelings. I am certainly disappointed with both the GB and HC efforts so far, but at least they've had recent Froyo updates. At least they have a vendor blog and a forum. That's more than what we have with our vendor. I know that Google's stance on HC is partly to blame for all this, but Viewsonic's silence isn't helping.
Well that sucks. Way to over hype a release Notion Ink! Pee on you!
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Yeah, I've been wondering that too. When I first heard NI was officially releasing a Honeycomb ROM, I assumed they got the source code, because how can you have an official release of it without getting google's permission (from a legal standpoint)? But when I read their blog post earlier today and realized they were essentially using the tabletrom effort, I thought "uh oh, this won't last very long". I hope google doesn't step in to stop continued progress, because I'm still wishing for a fully functional version of Honeycomb for the gtab (or at least mostly functional with flash; that's the only thing that's prevented me from switching already).
I apologize if this has been discussed already, but why can't notion ink get honeycomb source? I mean jeez, asus, acer, toshiba, viewsonic etc... are all releasing honeycomb tablets. Seems like if you are a legit company, ask and you shall receive.
Seems to me either
1. Google refused them source. Or..
2. Already focusing on adam 2, they are content with just lazily releasing a community mod as their own.
I'd be ticked if I was an adam owner. Gtab owners knew going in that the community was going to be their sole support. But if I put up with that circus that was the notion ink adam, I expected at least official honeycomb support.
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It's not the vendor, I think it's the hardware. Elocity, Gtablet, Olipad, Hannspad, Folio, VEGA and yes the Adam - all Harmony devices. Google has seemingly ignored that platform, as well as Nvidia. I almost wonder if Notion Ink wants to get caught with their hands in the Honeycomb jar - would at least make Google stand up and finally take notice to a Harmony vendor.
I know that us GTAB'ers didn't expect much of a future, but we know Honeycomb can work given enough resources. This whole situation has totally soured me in regards to Android tablets, and Nvidia devices in particular.
I didn't expect much when I got my GTab just wanted a cool tab to read and play a few games. I personally am probably gonna get an hp touchpad and give my mom my GTab so she can play games and video chat with her BF when he is in Iraq
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Read the June 25th entry:
http://notionink.wordpress.com/
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My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).
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What would their motivations be? To make us buy more tablets?
That doesn't seem inline with their "do-no-evil" philosophy, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were to happen, for this reason ;;
But would it be Google that would issue such a request, or the companies that took the Honeycomb platform and developed firmware specifically for their products? I would guess the latter, since it's probably with them that we entered a "thou shalt not reverse compile thine firmware, for it is holy" agreement, not with Google.
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What would their motivations be? To make us buy more tablets?
That doesn't seem inline with their "do-no-evil" philosophy, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were to happen, for this reason ;;
But would it be Google that would issue such a request, or the companies that took the Honeycomb platform and developed firmware specifically for their products? I would guess the latter, since it's probably with them that we entered a "thou shalt not reverse compile thine firmware, for it is holy" agreement, not with Google.
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I think you're saying, if someone takes a ROM and modifies it to run on the Notion Adam, and then the folks at Notion stick that ROM on their website, Notion might get served a request to take that ROM down. I dunno, it's open source so other parties have every right to take the code, modify it, and distribute it.
Hello I have the gtab the stock rom, if I make the root with SuperOneClick I can then apply honeycomb update.zip?
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Hello I have the gtab the stock rom, if I make the root with SuperOneClick I can then apply honeycomb update.zip?
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You don't have to root the device before running one of these ROM updates - the GTAB's stock recovery is not locked down and can accept custom ROM's.
As always, read the modder's directions as they might require things as a pre-requisite. For example, cyanagenmod usually requires clockworkmod as a pre-req. Again, best to ask the modder if it's not stated in their post.
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You don't have to root the device before running one of these ROM updates - the GTAB's stock recovery is not locked down and can accept custom ROM's.
As always, read the modder's directions as they might require things as a pre-requisite. For example, cyanagenmod usually requires clockworkmod as a pre-req. Again, best to ask the modder if it's not stated in their post.
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Means that it is possible to apply the update.zip in the stock rom on gtab? I can download the file and then apply it in recovery mode?
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I have driven 90 miles one way to pick one up for $279 earlier this week, and so far have been very happy with it.
Just started reading about the future of Tegra based Tablet, and it appears that there is the Honeycomb version of the Gingebread Google OS which is coming out early next year which can utilize this Tegra chips to its full potentials.
My questions to some here is that if Viewsonic will continue to develop the Tablet to support NextGen of the Google OS?
I dont' want to buy, and stuck with running single core Froyo(2.2).
Anyone has ideas or thoughts?
Well, I think that you can keep that one since there are ways to flash it etc. and so people will probably continue making updates themselves.
Hacked=Unlimited possibilities
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Hacked=Unlimited possibilities
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Werd! In time this tablet will be running newer builds. Wait it out, or start developing.
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Well, I think that you can keep that one since there are ways to flash it etc. and so people will probably continue making updates themselves.
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yup. its not much of a matter of "if" but "when"
I can see Roebeet porting both Gingerbread and Honeycomb to this thing. There will be no bordome, that's for sure.
As with all electronics: if you can, wait- things will always get better and cheaper.
Yeah, this is hackable, but frankly, the display sucks and that's not too easily fixed with new software. Also, we already see on the motherboard the ability for the manufacturer to add other things- more RAM, GPS and mini-PCIe at least. Do you want/need any of that? Then wait.
If you can't wait, well, you've got to buy something, but make sure whatever it is fits your needs. Also, don't count on upgrades. No, if you need it NOW, make sure it fits your current needs out of the box or at least know that the upgrades are available.
Don't count on the manufacturer or the community to do anything. Yeah, you can usually count on the community to do more than the manufacturer, but I'm sure it's that sense of entitlement that really annoys those kind souls doing things for the love of it.
If your needs are to hack around and experiment, then buy it. You've come to the right place.
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As with all electronics: if you can, wait- things will always get better and cheaper.
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This is true but if you always wait you'll never have anything. Gadgets/Tech get obsolete every few months now-a-days. IMHO If you like it and it does what you want, then get it!
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As with all electronics: if you can, wait- things will always get better and cheaper.
Yeah, this is hackable, but frankly, the display sucks and that's not too easily fixed with new software. Also, we already see on the motherboard the ability for the manufacturer to add other things- more RAM, GPS and mini-PCIe at least. Do you want/need any of that? Then wait.
If you can't wait, well, you've got to buy something, but make sure whatever it is fits your needs. Also, don't count on upgrades. No, if you need it NOW, make sure it fits your current needs out of the box or at least know that the upgrades are available.
Don't count on the manufacturer or the community to do anything. Yeah, you can usually count on the community to do more than the manufacturer, but I'm sure it's that sense of entitlement that really annoys those kind souls doing things for the love of it.
If your needs are to hack around and experiment, then buy it. You've come to the right place.
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It is not sense of entitlement, but absolute joy of using open source.
The problem to me is where I can buy this gadget in UK. Why it sell only in US?
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I can see Roebeet porting both Gingerbread and Honeycomb to this thing. There will be no bordome, that's for sure.
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You forgot Rothnic, Gojimi, Bekit and everyone else who have contributed. This is definitely not a one man show.
I do the packaging, but that doesn't mean I am the only one here. Not by a long shot.
As for 2.3 and beyond, I think our best best will be our zPad friends, as well as Malata themselves. Once Malata manages to build out a 2.3 build, we'll be in good shape. I have zero faith in Viewsonic, but perhaps they'll surprise us.
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I have zero faith in Viewsonic, but perhaps they'll surprise us.
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Should we start a call in campiegn to VS tech support?
Anyone still on 2.1 is officially obsolete. Google has released a ton of new features for froyo and gingerbread users. Including google instant, new gmail app, and other things.
Which leaves 2.1 users with old software never to be upgraded again.
I still haven't flashed (due to warranty issues) but even if I did I would be upset because it still is based on buggy pre-release software.
Based on the epic 4g leak the froyo should be version 2.2.1 so new roms would be 2.2.1 instead of buggy 2.2
Why doesn't samsung care about their customers!
Yea, I share your sentiments. I tried most of the 2.2 leak ROMs, but most had troubles. The list of apps that don't work on 2.1 and below is growing. I wonder if Google Maps 5 will be the same way.
I really thinking about just buying an unlocked nexus s but then i realize its still samsung!!!
I returned a samsung tv i bought for my family for christmas because they suck so much ;D
The more I read about this (and the GPS malfunction), the more I think that when my Captivate arrives tomorrow I may just take it into an AT$T store and demand a refund and contract cancellation.
What we need is a Samsung Customer Service number we can start calling to voice our opinions. Any have a good Samsung number for this or a similar purpose?
Yes more than half of android devices are "obsolete"...
Return it? Because your too lazy to flash your phone with functional software instead of the junk Samsung and att gave us? I've been rocking the beta cm 6.1 for quite awhile and blows the doors off any 2.1 variant that was out there.....and as far as voiding your warranty its almost impossible to brick these phones so its completely easy to flash back to an out of the box state. So quit whining. This is what makes android so great. Take a phone with amazing hardware with crappy software and put amazing software on it
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For one, I'm not lazy or whining. I shouldn't have to flash my phone to get basic functionality out of it. The GPS should work without my having to invest in searching through a myriad of unauthorized solutions and risk not only voiding my warranty, but bricking my phone. If I wanted to put this much effort into making a phone work I would have stuck with WinMo 6.5 and my Tilt 2, which I know inside and out already. I moved to Android hoping I'd no longer have to spend so much time dicking around with my phone just to get things to work. You know, the whole "Droid Does" marketing ploy? The main reason I agreed to buy this phone was because I read on several different sites where Samsung said they were definitely going to update it to Froyo. I understand that their timetable may be off, but they should at least keep their promise. Is that too much to ask or expect?
Samsung promised Froyo by the end of the year for the US Market. They still have a 20 days. Their stance has not changed, so I don't see what anyone has to complain about.
As for GPS mine works as good as the one on my Bravo - my Tracks, Turn by Turn are the same. If your GPS has problems, take it back. If you try multiple phones and still have a problem, then make them switch you to another phone.
everyone knows they won't make the end of december date
It's not that I don't want to try custom ROMs. However, all the custom ROMs are built on leaked (and often buggy) Froyo ROMs. The sooner AT&T releases an official release Froyo ROM, the sooner we can get a stable (or more stable) custom Froyo ROM....hopefully they release the source code too. There's code in the custom ROMs that comes from all sorts of other ROMs lol
Ditto^^^ Well, according to Mr. Smalls, we're just lazy, whiny jerks with no valid excuse for not wanting to use a custom ROM on our phones.
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It's not that I don't want to try custom ROMs. However, all the custom ROMs are built on leaked (and often buggy) Froyo ROMs. The sooner AT&T releases an official release Froyo ROM, the sooner we can get a stable (or more stable) custom Froyo ROM....hopefully they release the source code too. There's code in the custom ROMs that comes from all sorts of other ROMs lol
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try axura.. VERY stable, fast, practical rom with good themes. its a work of art. been rocking it with very minimal issue (less issues compared to stock).
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For one, I'm not lazy or whining. I shouldn't have to flash my phone to get basic functionality out of it. The GPS should work without my having to invest in searching through a myriad of unauthorized solutions and risk not only voiding my warranty, but bricking my phone. If I wanted to put this much effort into making a phone work I would have stuck with WinMo 6.5 and my Tilt 2, which I know inside and out already. I moved to Android hoping I'd no longer have to spend so much time dicking around with my phone just to get things to work. You know, the whole "Droid Does" marketing ploy? The main reason I agreed to buy this phone was because I read on several different sites where Samsung said they were definitely going to update it to Froyo. I understand that their timetable may be off, but they should at least keep their promise. Is that too much to ask or expect?
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Am I correct that you don't even have your device as you're typing that?! Try it first..a lot of the stuff you read isn't what you will experience. I.E.: my gps has worked a charm since I picked mine up in mid October..it's an excellent device. I've had a Samsung DLP for more than 2 years and it works flawlessly. People like to rant..find out for yourself for chrissake. It's nice to be happy with a cell device for the first time in awhile for me..only complaint is att dragging heels on 2.2. I'm too busy and old (55) to have the energy to do all that stuff that many do..but it's also nice to know that if I get tired of waiting and get a wild hair, I'll root and flash when I'm good and ready. Meantime I think the Captivate is a great companion
From what I've heard, I think that it might be the carriers that are delaying the update. Don't know if this is true or not but I kinda doubt this is Samsung's fault.
@fldude, Thanks for the encouragement. I used to love fiddling with my WinMo phones and I enjoyed modding my Tilt 2 to where it runs great and does (almost) all I ask of it. I'd still be using it if WinMo wasn't a dead platform and the thing wasn't so laggy. That saidI was hoping the switch to Android would mean I finallly would have a phone that I could tinker with if I wanted to, but didn't HAVE to, like WinMo. I guess reading through these forums exposes one mostly to the negative since most people only post when having problems. I brushed most of it aside, but the GPS issue really stood out because I use GPS-enabled apps a lot and it works so well on my Tilt 2. I can't wait for the Cap to get here tomorrow so I can start playing with it. Thanks to running XDAndroid on my Tilt 2 I already have some idea of what to expect and how to use it.
I will say this, reading about rooting and flashing of Android, kernel this and apk that is a lot more intimidating than working with WinMo. I never hesitated to edit my registry, but modding Android sounds pretty scary.
By the way, does fl mean you're a fellow H-D rider?
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Samsung promised Froyo by the end of the year for the US Market. They still have a 20 days. Their stance has not changed, so I don't see what anyone has to complain about.
As for GPS mine works as good as the one on my Bravo - my Tracks, Turn by Turn are the same. If your GPS has problems, take it back. If you try multiple phones and still have a problem, then make them switch you to another phone.
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They were previously quoted saying by the end of November. There was that whole JH7 fiasco. And your argument doesn't change what he was saying. His whole point was that he shouldn't have to **** around to make it work. It just should.
david717;971 His whole point was that he shouldn't have to **** around to make it work. It just should.[/QUOTE said:
Ummm, I'm stock, never rooted, make phone calls, email, navigate with gps, surf the web, play games, usw.. How is this not a working phone? By my calculations this phone does "just work" and has since I pulled it out of its box in July.
I too am waiting for, now, v2.2.1...
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Before I bought mine I knee of the GPS issues and swwvthat a fix was coming. It still is. Besides the GPS my phone just works. Texting browsing g music video all just worked email too. Running the froyo leak my phone now completely 100% percent works. I'm excited to see how much more stable the official release will be.
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I have been following the forums regarding the so called Froyo release and I have to say that I am rather frustrated as well. I actually called AT&T last week to complain about the delay with Froyo with Gingerbread's release within a few weeks. Not to mention Honeycomb on the horizon.
In speaking with one of the techs he also shared his frustrations and was hoping that it would be released in early January. I told him that it was understood that it would be release at the end of the year and he confirmed that same understanding. However his sources revealed that it is now for early January. Let's hope this is true, but as you all know we have been given so many empty promises.
Furthermore,I read an article that Samsung is undecided whether to release Gingerbread for the Galaxy devices. For a product that has been so popular and successful, what are they thinking? Or maybe they are not!!
Either way my fingers and toes are crossed for Froyo for now...
my company (fairly large but will remain nameless) is testing the gtablet with intents to use it as a inventory/shipping tool. I have some HIGH up people asking if its possible and my answer at the time is "NO"....the hardware as we all know is plenty solid but the OS is TERRIBLE! Im looking to streamline this thing (if possible) to make it responsive and reliable with what you want it to do. So the real question is what do i need to do? I of course tried the stock OS and that doesnt work. right now im on the CyanogenMod OS and it is still just to clunky to work in a business. Any ideas of what i need to do or try? Any help would be great guys...and thanks in advance
Chuddly
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my company (fairly large but will remain nameless) is testing the gtablet with intents to use it as a inventory/shipping tool. I have some HIGH up people asking if its possible and my answer at the time is "NO"....the hardware as we all know is plenty solid but the OS is TERRIBLE! Im looking to streamline this thing (if possible) to make it responsive and reliable with what you want it to do. So the real question is what do i need to do? I of course tried the stock OS and that doesnt work. right now im on the CyanogenMod OS and it is still just to clunky to work in a business. Any ideas of what i need to do or try? Any help would be great guys...and thanks in advance
Chuddly
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Probably best served using Vegan b3. It is super stable - very fast. and supports enterprise WPA2.
I think your biggest problem is going to be the size of it. Recently I wandered into an Apple store and was shocked to see ipads strapped to the hands of most of the workers, even with a case with a handstrap the devices looked a bit bulky and awkward to use. The gtab is certainly no smaller than the ipad and without some kind of case that gives it some protection and allows it to be attached to the worker (ie. handstrap), I can't see this being easily used in a shipping or inventory environment. I think really a 5"-7" device would be easier to use in that type of situation. Just my 2 cents.
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Probably best served using Vegan b3. It is super stable - very fast. and supports enterprise WPA2.
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it sounds like what i am looking for but where do i get it and all that? any problems with it that i should know about? any limitations?
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I think your biggest problem is going to be the size of it. Recently I wandered into an Apple store and was shocked to see ipads strapped to the hands of most of the workers, even with a case with a handstrap the devices looked a bit bulky and awkward to use. The gtab is certainly no smaller than the ipad and without some kind of case that gives it some protection and allows it to be attached to the worker (ie. handstrap), I can't see this being easily used in a shipping or inventory environment. I think really a 5"-7" device would be easier to use in that type of situation. Just my 2 cents.
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the size is actually to our advantage (with the use of a case/strap device i have found) because our inventory system uses MANY lines of part numbers that would be impossible to see well (without zooming) on the smaller tablets
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it sounds like what i am looking for but where do i get it and all that? any problems with it that i should know about? any limitations?
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In the development section of this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859884
Some graphics tearing (Only between screens, like when the browser first loads), is fixed in prototype 12 but that isn't released yet.
Quick office and angry birds works flawlessly.
far as limit's go... *Shrug* I use it at work all the time.
When its in my homemade stand it's playing tune - in radio while I rebuild computers.
When I'm in the field i use it to access our intranet and check on and close service tickets.
I can download drivers and put them on a flash drive.
I can surf the web and do google searches on it to do feild trouble shooting.
It's not heavy at all, so it doesn't weigh down my satchel (as I call it my man purse).
So in my line of work it's a perfect companion, But I have no idea if it would work for you
My 2 cents: As soon as you mention the enterprise, you should really talk to Adam Hanin ("OfficialViewSonic", here in XDA). It's mainly a support concern - these mods are built with the idea that its for personal use, but rolling them out to users in a large company means that you'd want the build being used to be fully supported by Viewsonic.
Right off the bat, you'll have issues with support hours, since their CS is not 24/7. What would happen, for example, if you deployed this and you had issues on a Sunday? Or at 11pm on a weekday? Things like that. Plus, they wouldn't support a modded build, unless you managed to sign some type of contract with them.
i understand the full support but in a larger company we are testing ONLY at this point and it could be some time before we get to a product that rolls out to the work force of our company. Right now we are just trying to prove that it can be done with the gtablet on a basic level (kind of one of those show them what they want to see things). and i do believe the gtablet can produce that given a stable and responsive OS and the VEGAn seems to be a good prospect for testing at least. Anyone have a link to a walkthrough on installing it? I think its worth a shot. if worse comes to worse i just reinstall the stock OS
I don't think anyone has written anything extensive on the VEGAn, yet. There's some documentation for TnT Lite that would apply to VEGAn:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
The only difference would be the ZIP file being used for the build.
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i understand the full support but in a larger company we are testing ONLY at this point and it could be some time before we get to a product that rolls out to the work force of our company. Right now we are just trying to prove that it can be done with the gtablet on a basic level (kind of one of those show them what they want to see things). and i do believe the gtablet can produce that given a stable and responsive OS and the VEGAn seems to be a good prospect for testing at least. Anyone have a link to a walkthrough on installing it? I think its worth a shot. if worse comes to worse i just reinstall the stock OS
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I would def mention to your management that Vegan is a hacked version of the G tab and not the way they would get it out of the box. Like Roebeet just stated usually large companies want something fully supported by the manufacturer in case an issue arrises. For example, your running Vegan and call viewsonic tech support and they cant help you with anything since you are using a hacked version of the device. I would think large companies would steer clear of using something like this regardless if its just a testing phase or not.
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I would def mention to your management that Vegan is a hacked version of the G tab and not the way they would get it out of the box. Like Roebeet just stated usually large companies want something fully supported by the manufacturer in case an issue arrises. For example, your running Vegan and call viewsonic tech support and they cant help you with anything since you are using a hacked version of the device. I would think large companies would steer clear of using something like this regardless if its just a testing phase or not.
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...plus according to A. Hanin this week's update will allow booting in stock fw to a more vanillalike Android experience, but if you need flash you'd still have to sideload it, plus you'd maybe want to re-package the current fw anyways to include clockwork mod as a better backup/restore option... unless VS does the smart thing and ships something similar in recovery functionality in stock fw...
Hello,
saw this on the viewsonic website:
viewsonic.com/tablets/
I apologize if this has been already been posted
My favorite part:
In the interim, users can download Flash from various websites that distribute android applications.
Hehe, what websites would those be?
My G-Tablet is sitting in it's box until Christmas Day, and I'm kind of curious to see what they release as a software update on 12/24. I guess I'll allow it to accept all of the OTA updates and see how the product works in stock form before installing TNT 3.0. I'm hoping others will provide their feedback on the forum to compare stock vs. custom ROM in regards to speed, FC's, etc. All things considered, I'd just assume keep it stock if the performance is similar just so I can continue receiving OTA updates, but that might be asking too much. Still, great to see Viewsonic stepping up to the plate to improve the user experience.
I hav run custom roms since this thing has been out of box for 15 minutes. I also used a couple of store demo units and watched videos on youtube with stock roms. I think I am fairly well versed on the roms of these things. I will tell you this, you will always have a faster machine with a custom rom. There are just things in the customs that Viewsonic will not put in. Also, the stock TapNTap layer adds some overhead to the unit. With that said, I ran mine with the 3316 udate that Roebeet found the other day and was fairly impressed on how usable the tab was.
I agree with you, let in run the updates on Saturday when you open it and use it for a day. If it meets your needs you can leave it like that. You may not be unhappy with it stock. If you want to try a rom, you always have that option. I installed TNT Lite on my wife's tab and I am thinking about putting her's back to stock. She might like that TapNCrap UI.
rayden25 said:
I hav run custom roms since this thing has been out of box for 15 minutes. I also used a couple of store demo units and watched videos on youtube with stock roms. I think I am fairly well versed on the roms of these things. I will tell you this, you will always have a faster machine with a custom rom. There are just things in the customs that Viewsonic will not put in. Also, the stock TapNTap layer adds some overhead to the unit. With that said, I ran mine with the 3316 udate that Roebeet found the other day and was fairly impressed on how usable the tab was.
I agree with you, let in run the updates on Saturday when you open it and use it for a day. If it meets your needs you can leave it like that. You may not be unhappy with it stock. If you want to try a rom, you always have that option. I installed TNT Lite on my wife's tab and I am thinking about putting her's back to stock. She might like that TapNCrap UI.
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I've gotta say, even as a fairly more advanced user, I like 3316. TnT, as long as it's not slogging, isn't bad. Other than the 'to do' list screen, which is useless to me, the screens are generally appealing and useful. Weather's quick, good, and the news interface isn't bad, especially since I never got into using Reader. With 3316's ability to switch over to more vanilla Android, I'm pretty happy with stock3316+root+flash+market. It's responsive enough.
I assume that this 3316 update is the same one that they will be pushing out OTA on 12/24, or will there be yet another update then?
festivus said:
I assume that this 3316 update is the same one that they will be pushing out OTA on 12/24, or will there be yet another update then?
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There's already a 3338 UAT version floating around.
roebeet said:
There's already a 3338 UAT version floating around.
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I guess it begs the question: Will there be another on 12/24 per the press release?
festivus said:
I guess it begs the question: Will there be another on 12/24 per the press release?
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3338 is definitely UAT / pre-release. TnT puts these on an externally facing link and (sometimes) pushes it out to user devices, but I don't think this one was. It's possible that 3338 might be the 12/24 version, but we don't know yet.
So taking a look at that press release and also Viewsonic tweets I see these bits of info:
“As a result, our software partner is releasing an upgrade that will address customer concerns. Along with great performance improvements, customers will have the flexibility to use both a standard Android interface as well as a user-customizable interface which has been significantly enhanced since the product launch.” - Press Release Dec 20
"We're releasing an update to gTablet s/w this week. Will address performance & UI issues, including option to boot to Android." - Twitter Dec 20
Are they giving us the option to not use the TapNTap?
Correia said:
So taking a look at that press release and also Viewsonic tweets I see these bits of info:
“As a result, our software partner is releasing an upgrade that will address customer concerns. Along with great performance improvements, customers will have the flexibility to use both a standard Android interface as well as a user-customizable interface which has been significantly enhanced since the product launch.” - Press Release Dec 20
"We're releasing an update to gTablet s/w this week. Will address performance & UI issues, including option to boot to Android." - Twitter Dec 20
Are they giving us the option to not use the TapNTap?
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I think they are moving towards making the TapNTap portion more of a "dashboard." Since it was made to run on fridge and wall based devices, I think it isn't the best for everyday browsing use. Instead the default will be the more standard android look launcher.
However, you still will be using the TapNTap framework, hence the familar look of the status bar and popup windows, options, etc.
Just saw this over at Engadget. The Adam UI update isn't all that big news, at least for those of us who only have gtabs and aren't running an Adam port, but they mention that Notion Ink is working on a build of Honeycomb, which I assume could be easily ported over to the gtab. In one of the source links to the Engadget post, they mention that the Honeycomb build should be out on the "27th of June with acceleration and more!"
I'm not sure whether they actually got the honeycomb source code from google or whether they're using the Adam honeycomb mod that roebeet used as a base for Bottle of Smoke, since they say this in an earlier post:
"While Google gets to choose who they support officially, there is little we can do. But when we get friends like Andy, Stephen, and rest (I think like you I also know them with their nicks: Reobeet, Rothnic, Dougie187, IntuitiveNipple, TwoSpirits, MyGuy, AlbertWertz (same as his name), josh4trunks, jerryaycock, gamepro, newbe5, RaYmAn, red_herringx, Covrus and blazingwolf) we can do much more than the Bilderberg Group!"
But I'm thinking if they're releasing an official version of Honeycomb, they must have gotten permission and the source code from google.
Very good news.
Edit.
I just saw the video in the blog you linked to. My gtab is 100 times more responsive than that. Using ginger OC to 1.2ghz.
Great new and i quote"
Also in the evening today, all can update to the new Eden 1.5 with more apps. We have kept our energies focused at Honeycomb rather than fixing everything on 2.3, but still those who want to test, can test the 2.3 variant on Wednesday!
As for a fixed date on Honeycomb, expect 27th of June with acceleration and more!
Warm Regards
Rohan Shravan
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goodintentions said:
Very good news.
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I just saw the video in the blog you linked to. My gtab is 100 times more responsive than that. Using ginger OC to 1.2ghz.
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Wow, yeah. Mine too and I don't even overclock. I just watched that video and it appears they still have quite a few bugs to workout. Not only was it not very responsive, it also crashed several times in the short video. And the guy kept saying how it was more stable than the previous version. However, as y2k-inc pointed out above, they did mention that they've been focusing on "Honeycomb rather than fixing everything on 2.3", so I'm still optimistic that we'll get something good out of this. Even if their release turns out to be crap, maybe roebeet and the Adam devs working on the HC port can salvage something from it to fix the few remaining things that don't work in their ROMs (flash, camera, etc.).
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Wow, yeah. Mine too and I don't even overclock. I just watched that video and it appears they still have quite a few bugs to workout. Not only was it not very responsive, it also crashed several times in the short video. And the guy kept saying how it was more stable than the previous version. However, as y2k-inc pointed out above, they did mention that they've been focusing on "Honeycomb rather than fixing everything on 2.3", so I'm still optimistic that we'll get something good out of this. Even if their release turns out to be crap, maybe roebeet and the Adam devs working on the HC port can salvage something from it to fix the few remaining things that don't work in their ROMs (flash, camera, etc.).
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Our custom roms for the gtab appear to be 10 times more stable and workable than the adam. And we're suppose to be the cheap low end LOL!
goodintentions said:
Our custom roms for the gtab appear to be 10 times more stable and workable than the adam. And we're suppose to be the cheap low end LOL!
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so very true. game on!
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