Just saw this over at Engadget. The Adam UI update isn't all that big news, at least for those of us who only have gtabs and aren't running an Adam port, but they mention that Notion Ink is working on a build of Honeycomb, which I assume could be easily ported over to the gtab. In one of the source links to the Engadget post, they mention that the Honeycomb build should be out on the "27th of June with acceleration and more!"
I'm not sure whether they actually got the honeycomb source code from google or whether they're using the Adam honeycomb mod that roebeet used as a base for Bottle of Smoke, since they say this in an earlier post:
"While Google gets to choose who they support officially, there is little we can do. But when we get friends like Andy, Stephen, and rest (I think like you I also know them with their nicks: Reobeet, Rothnic, Dougie187, IntuitiveNipple, TwoSpirits, MyGuy, AlbertWertz (same as his name), josh4trunks, jerryaycock, gamepro, newbe5, RaYmAn, red_herringx, Covrus and blazingwolf) we can do much more than the Bilderberg Group!"
But I'm thinking if they're releasing an official version of Honeycomb, they must have gotten permission and the source code from google.
Very good news.
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I just saw the video in the blog you linked to. My gtab is 100 times more responsive than that. Using ginger OC to 1.2ghz.
Great new and i quote"
Also in the evening today, all can update to the new Eden 1.5 with more apps. We have kept our energies focused at Honeycomb rather than fixing everything on 2.3, but still those who want to test, can test the 2.3 variant on Wednesday!
As for a fixed date on Honeycomb, expect 27th of June with acceleration and more!
Warm Regards
Rohan Shravan
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Very good news.
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I just saw the video in the blog you linked to. My gtab is 100 times more responsive than that. Using ginger OC to 1.2ghz.
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Wow, yeah. Mine too and I don't even overclock. I just watched that video and it appears they still have quite a few bugs to workout. Not only was it not very responsive, it also crashed several times in the short video. And the guy kept saying how it was more stable than the previous version. However, as y2k-inc pointed out above, they did mention that they've been focusing on "Honeycomb rather than fixing everything on 2.3", so I'm still optimistic that we'll get something good out of this. Even if their release turns out to be crap, maybe roebeet and the Adam devs working on the HC port can salvage something from it to fix the few remaining things that don't work in their ROMs (flash, camera, etc.).
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Wow, yeah. Mine too and I don't even overclock. I just watched that video and it appears they still have quite a few bugs to workout. Not only was it not very responsive, it also crashed several times in the short video. And the guy kept saying how it was more stable than the previous version. However, as y2k-inc pointed out above, they did mention that they've been focusing on "Honeycomb rather than fixing everything on 2.3", so I'm still optimistic that we'll get something good out of this. Even if their release turns out to be crap, maybe roebeet and the Adam devs working on the HC port can salvage something from it to fix the few remaining things that don't work in their ROMs (flash, camera, etc.).
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Our custom roms for the gtab appear to be 10 times more stable and workable than the adam. And we're suppose to be the cheap low end LOL!
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Our custom roms for the gtab appear to be 10 times more stable and workable than the adam. And we're suppose to be the cheap low end LOL!
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so very true. game on!
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Just saw this on CM site thought i could share
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/16699-sgh-i897-cm7-first-look/
It is almost there.
Nice! Can't wait for it to go on beta.
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Just saw this on CM site thought i could share
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/16699-sgh-i897-cm7-first-look/
It is almost there.
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Look nice, can't wait for a release that we can flash.
Is this version built for Captivate? Or ported from vibrant or I9000?
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This looks sweet, Ive not flashed my phone before to another ROM but this looks like the ROM im gonna go with.
Pardon on my ignorance, but what is the difference between Cynogen compared to other ROMs available (e.g. Firefly, Serendipity, Cognition...)
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Pardon on my ignorance, but what is the difference between Cynogen compared to other ROMs available (e.g. Firefly, Serendipity, Cognition...)
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CyanogenMod is completely open source and built from source, based on google's AOSP code drops. Firefly/Serendipity/Cognition are merely repacked (and de/recompiled) versions of Samsung's code. It's like asking the difference between linux and windows
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CyanogenMod is completely open source and built from source, based on google's AOSP code drops. Firefly/Serendipity/Cognition are merely repacked (and de/recompiled) versions of Samsung's code. It's like asking the difference between linux and windows
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I've pledged to donate my organs few years ago. Thanks.
Jerky video is jerky. :S
I'll wait until something reliable and stable comes out. Don't want to be all:
"DUUUURRPP A HUUURRPPPP GOT ME SOME CYANOGEN MODZ!!1!"
On the first day, only to have it crash or form a singularity or something. Though, it IS a wonder as to how these developers haven't been offered jobs or something.
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Jerky video is jerky. :S
I'll wait until something reliable and stable comes out. Don't want to be all:
"DUUUURRPP A HUUURRPPPP GOT ME SOME CYANOGEN MODZ!!1!"
On the first day, only to have it crash or form a singularity or something. Though, it IS a wonder as to how these developers haven't been offered jobs or something.
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to be honest, a lot of them already do have jobs. also, I know from personal interactions with him that atinm actually works with a group of people and makes a lot of startup businesses and then sells them
I'm pretty sure they're all set up in terms of careers for the most part.
the cm7 build i did from last night is actually pretty stable, there are some werid qurks like cant charge your phone off and wifi sleep might causes crashes, otherwise its pretty damn usable as a daily driver. i hope they will bring out a beta release soon
what a long boring blurry video.....;
have been using the 2/25 CAPTIVATE build and like stated above its very very close to stable. Aside from the mentioned wifi, charging, camera, external usb mounting bugs and the tilt sensors being a bit flakey this thing kicks a$$! It so smooth its makes the lagfixes so far seem like childplay. also i freaking love turning the screen off!
I can see why they are urging people not to post repo builds yet but im glad they posted a "test" version for people that feel comfortable with odin and cwm. Id like to take this moment to thank the cyanogen team for putting up with the constant 'clutter' the last week with "when is it ready, why doesnt this work, will you put this in?" GAH! for that alone i plan to donate 20 dollars when this things done lol.
OH, and just as a VERY early warning, dont be surprised if MKV/other codec video files dont work even AFTER the first actual release. Basically to skim the argument the sources for these codecs are NOT open source and NOT a part of the AOSP design..so we might just be out of luck. Like i care thou lol
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to be honest, a lot of them already do have jobs. also, I know from personal interactions with him that atinm actually works with a group of people and makes a lot of startup businesses and then sells them
I'm pretty sure they're all set up in terms of careers for the most part.
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Well I meant jobs with Google or the phone companies, but one would guess that being forced to create bloatware or something along those lines wouldn't agree with their ideals of life, liberty (from bloatware) and the pursuit of happiness.
Looks pretty decent, other than the god awful theming and other undesirable cm bits.
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Cyanogen had applied at google but didn't get the job.
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Cyanogen had applied at google but didn't get the job.
Sent using smoke signals.
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Because Cyanogen is more open source then Google...
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CyanogenMod is completely open source and built from source, based on google's AOSP code drops. Firefly/Serendipity/Cognition are merely repacked (and de/recompiled) versions of Samsung's code. It's like asking the difference between linux and windows
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And it's also 2.3 Gingerbread instead of Froyo.
man, I can't WAIT for this to go beta!!!
All the doom-and-gloom posts had me worried about the future of the G-Tablet but after these past few days things are really starting to look up. We got two new Gingerbread ROMs (Vegan and CM7), new stock firmware update, OTA update servers are back online, a HDMI cable, and the reassurance from Viewsonic and nVidia that they haven't abandoned their respective platforms. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better pershoot releases a new overclocking kernel! The scores of this thing oc'ed to 1600 are amazing! The only bad thing is all this had to happen right after I sent my G-Tablet in for RMA. I might have to stop visiting these forums lol, makes me want my G-Tablet back even more. Bah, oh well, looks like when I get it back in two weeks or so I'll have a ton to play around with. Anyone else amazed with the turnaround as far as software and support the G-Tablet has made over the past few days?
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All the doom-and-gloom posts had me worried about the future of the G-Tablet but after these past few days things are really starting to look up. We got two new Gingerbread ROMs (Vegan and CM7), new stock firmware update, OTA update servers are back online, an HDMI cable, and the reassurance from Viewsonic and nVidia that they haven't abandoned their respective platforms. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better pershoot releases a new overclocking kernel! The scores of this thing oc'ed to 1600 are amazing! The only bad thing is all this had to happen right after I sent my G-Tablet in for RMA. I might have to stop visiting these forums lol, makes me want my G-Tablet back even more. Bah, oh well, looks like when I get it back in two weeks or so I'll have a ton to play around with. Anyone else amazed with the turnaround as far as software and support the G-Tablet has made over the past few days?
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Great post!
I hope thats not sarcastic, cause honestly it is a pretty good post I have to say.
I've had my gTab since November and I have to say this has been a great week for this device. Now all we need is ~$75 IPS screen replacement and honeycreams
http :// android.modaco.com/content/lg-optimus-2x-2x-modaco-com/338920/6-may-v20c-gingerbread-rom-leak-for-the-t-mobile-g2x/ is the new tmobile beta release for the G2x which has the drivers for ginger in it. Just wanted to give it to the devs so they can make use of it.
Awesome!!!! Go gojimi
Awesome. Very good news.
It looks to me like that leak is a rom for a phone. Does anyone know if it is based on the harmony tegra 2 chip like the gtab? If so, then this may be really great news.....
I'll hold off my excitement until someone who knows better can chime in and confirm.
G2x has the harmony chipset its a Tmobile phone suppose to be getting ginger from a OTA update in a few months. Essentially the same drivers we use are compatible with this phone so that means there is our ginger drivers.
I remember they have source codes for the driver already, just need to integrate, if I am not wrong.
Unless they just got it because nvidia still hasnt released them to the public. Thats what the fuss was about for the past month.
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Unless they just got it because nvidia still hasnt released them to the public. Thats what the fuss was about for the past month.
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cannot remember the exact news source,
fyr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13510312&postcount=1085
I stand corrected from what I seen I never knew they recieved the acceleration drivers for it.
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cannot remember the exact news source,
fyr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13510312&postcount=1085
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I think CM7 only has hacked drivers ( reverse engineered), not the originals from Nvidia.
So this phone IS harmony based...... OK....I am a wee bit excited.
JUST A WEE!!
This is what I love about this community, XDA is about information.
Information is the drug of today's society and no one brings it faster than the collective.
I was thinking maybe on the way of hacked up drivers because my quadrant score is retarded low on cmod7.0.3
Kinda curious why none of the devs commented on this yet. wonder if were high hoping for nothing....
Thread title isn't really accurate. We have a rom from the gx2 that should contain the drivers we need. So far I don't think we have the drivers yet, not until someone with the skills has the chance to tear them out of that rom dump and get them working.
That didn't I can't wait, it's the only thing keeping me from running cm7
ugh 1 to 2 more weeks! hopefully
http://www.popherald.com/t-mobile-g2x-lg-gingerbread-update-rumor/7496
You really had to start this thread?
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Look, it's not hard to connect the dots here:
We've heard numerous people say T-Mobile has been giving employees G2X's with Gingerbread for bug testing over the past month or so. We've even seen it on G2Xs at E3.
Yesterday, LG tweeted that the Gingerbread update would 'probably not be released today' and that they're trying to release it ASAP.
Within the last 24 hours, LG Forum mods have stated to count on it being released by the end of June at the latest. They've also said 'if all goes well, it will be released very soon.'
Now, based on those three things, let's use our thinking caps: LG has probably sent a final version of the GB update to T-Mobile for bug testing (we know they've been doing this because of point #1.) It was likely sent to T-Mobile within the past few days, which is not enough time to thoroughly test and is why LG tweeted that it probably wouldn't be released yesterday (point #2.) They haven't released a date yet because they don't know if there are any unforeseen bugs, but 'if all goes well' (i.e., no bugs are found in the latest build), it should be released immediately (point #3.)
It's very clear the update is coming and they're trying their best to resolve all of the issues people have been complaining about. Do you understand what a disaster it would be if they released an update that didn't fix the issues the phone currently has? They're obviously trying to fix everything that they can and are unwilling to push out a buggy update for the sake of doing so. 1-2 weeks is a very reasonable timeline and if the internal T-Mobile testing goes well we will most likely see it by Tuesday, the first day of Summer, which they've said would be the release date all along.
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Look, it's not hard to connect the dots here:
We've heard numerous people say T-Mobile has been giving employees G2X's with Gingerbread for bug testing over the past month or so. We've even seen it on G2Xs at E3.
Yesterday, LG tweeted that the Gingerbread update would 'probably not be released today' and that they're trying to release it ASAP.
Within the last 24 hours, LG Forum mods have stated to count on it being released by the end of June at the latest. They've also said 'if all goes well, it will be released very soon.'
Now, based on those three things, let's use our thinking caps: LG has probably sent a final version of the GB update to T-Mobile for bug testing (we know they've been doing this because of point #1.) It was likely sent to T-Mobile within the past few days, which is not enough time to thoroughly test and is why LG tweeted that it probably wouldn't be released yesterday (point #2.) They haven't released a date yet because they don't know if there are any unforeseen bugs, but 'if all goes well' (i.e., no bugs are found in the latest build), it should be released immediately (point #3.)
It's very clear the update is coming and they're trying their best to resolve all of the issues people have been complaining about. Do you understand what a disaster it would be if they released an update that didn't fix the issues the phone currently has? They're obviously trying to fix everything that they can and are unwilling to push out a buggy update for the sake of doing so. 1-2 weeks is a very reasonable timeline and if the internal T-Mobile testing goes well we will most likely see it by Tuesday, the first day of Summer, which they've said would be the release date all along.
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Great post. Everything you said makes complete sense, so all of us waiting for gingerbread should just relax and wait until June 21st.
We've heard numerous people say T-Mobile has been giving employees G2X's with Gingerbread for bug testing over the past month or so. We've even seen it on G2Xs at E3.
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We've seen a leaked GB ROM, which was still sitting on the same kernel; it exhibited all the same issues that people have complained about.
A close look at the various GB 'leak' videos also show the same kernel.
I sure hope we see something soon, but if it's 'gingerbread' running on the existing kernel...I'm not hopeful. There could be a considerable number of fixes in the NVidia user space daemons, that would be a plus, but without a kernel rev? I'm thinking that would be a problem.
Hey DebauchedSloth, first thank you for your work on the battery driver. I'm unaware of any videos that actually show builds of Gingerbread that are more recent than the leak that came out almost a month and a half ago. I agree that it would be a bad move to not update the kernel, but there's no saying that they won't and I'm not sure if those leak videos are a reliable indicator of what the final update will be like.
Out of curiosity, since Faux and others have done work on custom kernels, is it really a problem if LG doesn't update theirs? It seems like something that the current G2X devs can't fix is ****ty drivers and unexposed Tegra features, but the kernel is fair game for tweaking and modifying. All I'm hoping to get from the GB update is a more stable set of hardware drivers, so that custom ROMs won't be stuck with the same bugs that the stock ROM has.
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We've seen a leaked GB ROM, which was still sitting on the same kernel; it exhibited all the same issues that people have complained about.
A close look at the various GB 'leak' videos also show the same kernel.
I sure hope we see something soon, but if it's 'gingerbread' running on the existing kernel...I'm not hopeful. There could be a considerable number of fixes in the NVidia user space daemons, that would be a plus, but without a kernel rev? I'm thinking that would be a problem.
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What about other phones with same or older kernel? Do they have same reboot/freeze issue? If not, I believe drivers are the culprit for most of the issues we've seen on G2x.
The GB leak is just "GB" leak, which means it doesn't include the driver fixes. So it's not a surprise that it still has same issues Froyo G2x has.
Daaaamn again ?
What about other phones with same or older kernel? Do they have same reboot/freeze issue? If not, I believe drivers are the culprit for most of the issues we've seen on G2x.
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I think the drivers are responsible for almost all of the issues with this phone. And it is deeply frustrating, because the hardware itself is awesome.
laker666 said:
You really had to start this thread?
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lol im so over gingerbread for the g2x "out by summer" **** and if u look it said rumor again so u never know....we just gotta wait it out!!!
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lol im so over gingerbread for the g2x "out by summer" **** and if u look it said rumor again so u never know....we just gotta wait it out!!!
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I say if its not, we bombard their twitter and facebook demanding it like we did in the vibrant forum....things got done rather quickly to get us a update..
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I think the drivers are responsible for almost all of the issues with this phone. And it is deeply frustrating, because the hardware itself is awesome.
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+1 on software side issues. Why? Because so far EB gb v1.1 doesn't hang up nor reboots on me unlike other. I don't know what he is doing. Maybe it's just placibo, maybe it's not but it works for me.
Also, coming from HD2 (hyperdroid builds), I learn to wait for the better roms.
Hopefully, there will really be an official update for our g2x this year.
@all, patience is a virtue and whining is not.
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lol im so over gingerbread for the g2x "out by summer" **** and if u look it said rumor again so u never know....we just gotta wait it out!!!
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i agree..im over this gingerbread fiasco ...but the "out by summer" isnt a rumer...tmobile tweeted that on may 25th
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It seems like something that the current G2X devs can't fix is ****ty drivers and unexposed Tegra features, but the kernel is fair game for tweaking and modifying. All I'm hoping to get from the GB update is a more stable set of hardware drivers, so that custom ROMs won't be stuck with the same bugs that the stock ROM has
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The kernel is fair game, but a lot of the hardware control is in the NVidia user space process. So, for example, the G2X has the same WM8994 sound chip that the Nexus S has, but control of that is in the NV userspace daemon, so a full on voodoo sound driver is not really possible. You can hack at some of the stuff, which I did in one of my patches to faux's kernel, but it really doesn't work so well and you can't go all out.
Similarly, the battery driver really needs access to the underlying charge controller and is basically guessing at the charge state by reading what it can (current voltage.) You can see your self how well that works. Poorly.
So we wait on LG/NV for fixes.
Or we go ahead and spend a lot of time and effort to work around this, if it's even possible in some cases.
Just Googled "Out by Summer". I was referred to a School summer lunch program, a few Alice Cooper videos, and a few other things. But no magic release date for GB on the G2x.
If the date is not in Google...its no where.
It'll be here. Evidence proves it to be very soon.
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The kernel is fair game, but a lot of the hardware control is in the NVidia user space process. So, for example, the G2X has the same WM8994 sound chip that the Nexus S has, but control of that is in the NV userspace daemon, so a full on voodoo sound driver is not really possible. You can hack at some of the stuff, which I did in one of my patches to faux's kernel, but it really doesn't work so well and you can't go all out.
Similarly, the battery driver really needs access to the underlying charge controller and is basically guessing at the charge state by reading what it can (current voltage.) You can see your self how well that works. Poorly.
So we wait on LG/NV for fixes.
Or we go ahead and spend a lot of time and effort to work around this, if it's even possible in some cases.
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Even the SGS2 can't get voodoo sound driver working. Supercurio, god of all Voodoo gods, threw in the towel the other day as the SGS2 uses new yamaha sound drivers that are all messed up as well.
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Just Googled "Out by Summer". I was referred to a School summer lunch program, a few Alice Cooper videos, and a few other things. But no magic release date for GB on the G2x.
If the date is not in Google...its no where.
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its on there twitter...go to tmobiles twitter and check out may 25th...google search does not search tweets.
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Even the SGS2 can't get voodoo sound driver working. Supercurio, god of all Voodoo gods, threw in the towel the other day as the SGS2 uses new yamaha sound drivers that are all messed up as well.
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Thought that was because the Yamaha sound chip was no good. G2X has a great chip, but no open source drivers (since the driver itself is in the NV binary blob).
Doubt Gingerbread will fix that. Hopefully will make things more stable...but more hackable? Doubt it.
Link: http://conclave.notionink.com/showthread.php?767-Honeycomb (I assume this is OK, as you don't need to register to get the ROM. I haven't registered).
This will boot off a 1.2-based GTAB, I used 4349 stock as my baseline. Requires a data wipe, post install. Gsensor and camera are broken with this ROM, FYI. I haven't tried a 1.1-based GTAB but I'm fairly certain it would soft-brick - there's a boot.img in the ROM.
Initial thoughts: Seems similar to the Tabletroms HC16 / Beast kernel already in existence. Haven't gotten to Flash video yet, but high-def video playback is broken for me, so far. Google Market is missing, for reasons unknown (legal reasons? Not sure).
Just a heads up that they did release this.
Damn. It doesn't sound any different from the ports we already have.
I haven't found anything of major importance yet. Mostly HC16 with some tweaks to make it more "Adam" branded.
Still, it's refreshing to see a company making the attempt. Viewsonic, you watching? Where's that new 1.2 ROM?
i thought the biggest thing would be drivers.... guess not. looks like if you have to install gapps after installing the rom the second post had the gapps dl
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I haven't found anything of major importance yet. Mostly HC16 with some tweaks to make it more "Adam" branded.
Still, it's refreshing to see a company making the attempt. Viewsonic, you watching? Where's that new 1.2 ROM?
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roebeet,
You know I'm a big fan, but isn't what NI did, essentially releasing the work of the Tabletrom guys, the same as if Viewsonic took one of your roms, made a new bootscreen, and released it?
I'm just sayin...
MC
I think you're not far off the mark - I haven't done a diff yet, but it does seem very similar.
Granted, I can't really say anything since my BoS mod is essentially the same thing. But I actually give those devs a nod not only in my update.zip, but also in my boot up screen. In NI's defense however, they've mentioned Tabletroms several times in their recent blog posts.
My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).
Roebeet, I know you are very busy. Didn't a big shot at Viewsonic like a VP of marketing used to read this site. Has something changed. When I called Viewsonic recently the phone messaging system seemed like it was a fifth party support for a fourth party support of a third party support company. I hope you get my meaning. I have not heard or seen anything from Viewsonic in a long time. The news release on their web site makes a big deal out of releasing 3588. Which was actually a recall of the 1.2 bootloader. Have they stopped all support for the G tablet?
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My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).
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I wouldn't be surprised if you're right there.
I think where we've all been failed, and I've been a long time droid owner, now a droid thunderbolt, is Google's release cycle. The original droid came out with 2.0 on it and it was ok, but within a month of any official release of the OS, the code was released on AOSP, and so you could count on the devs to release good ROMS way before the handset manufacturers and carriers did. In the period between release on any one handset, and AOSP you would get the "kang'd" roms. Those are roms cobbled together with bits and bobs from releases for other phones, or betas, etc., and they were pretty good, certainly good enough to hold you over until AOSP became the latest Cyanogenmod and other assorted roms.
So I bought my GTab based on the assumption (mine, and incorrect), that shortly after the XOOM came out there would be kang'd roms that worked pretty well, followed by an AOSP release that the devs turned in to something better than what the XOOM had on it.
I never really cared what Viewsonic did from the standpoint of support because I assumed the minute I bought the GTab that it would be rooted and run better ROMS than they would ever put out, and that was true for Froyo, and is almost there for Gingerbread. HC, we'll see...
Everything that's happened, Google not releasing HC to AOSP, NVidia not getting drivers to devs, has lead to a much more disappointing experience than I expected on this particular device.
Eh, the more I write the more frustrated I sound. I'll stop for now.
MC
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Roebeet, I know you are very busy. Didn't a big shot at Viewsonic like a VP of marketing used to read this site. Has something changed. When I called Viewsonic recently the phone messaging system seemed like it was a fifth party support for a fourth party support of a third party support company. I hope you get my meaning. I have not heard or seen anything from Viewsonic in a long time. The news release on their web site makes a big deal out of releasing 3588. Which was actually a recall of the 1.2 bootloader. Have they stopped all support for the G tablet?
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The Viewsonic from December 2010 is not the same Viewsonic post-April 2011. Yes, they used to read this forum and their customer service area did too. When we were grumbling about things like Angry Birds support and Flash back then, they (or whoever was developing for them) delivered and right before Christmas, I might add. I had hopes that they would give us continued support. You don't even want to know what I think now -- I've actually been retrained here and in Slatedroid, believe it or not. If I wrote how I really feel, the moderators would have to delete the post due to language.
As for Notion Ink, I have mixed feelings. I am certainly disappointed with both the GB and HC efforts so far, but at least they've had recent Froyo updates. At least they have a vendor blog and a forum. That's more than what we have with our vendor. I know that Google's stance on HC is partly to blame for all this, but Viewsonic's silence isn't helping.
Well that sucks. Way to over hype a release Notion Ink! Pee on you!
roebeet said:
My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).
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Yeah, I've been wondering that too. When I first heard NI was officially releasing a Honeycomb ROM, I assumed they got the source code, because how can you have an official release of it without getting google's permission (from a legal standpoint)? But when I read their blog post earlier today and realized they were essentially using the tabletrom effort, I thought "uh oh, this won't last very long". I hope google doesn't step in to stop continued progress, because I'm still wishing for a fully functional version of Honeycomb for the gtab (or at least mostly functional with flash; that's the only thing that's prevented me from switching already).
I apologize if this has been discussed already, but why can't notion ink get honeycomb source? I mean jeez, asus, acer, toshiba, viewsonic etc... are all releasing honeycomb tablets. Seems like if you are a legit company, ask and you shall receive.
Seems to me either
1. Google refused them source. Or..
2. Already focusing on adam 2, they are content with just lazily releasing a community mod as their own.
I'd be ticked if I was an adam owner. Gtab owners knew going in that the community was going to be their sole support. But if I put up with that circus that was the notion ink adam, I expected at least official honeycomb support.
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It's not the vendor, I think it's the hardware. Elocity, Gtablet, Olipad, Hannspad, Folio, VEGA and yes the Adam - all Harmony devices. Google has seemingly ignored that platform, as well as Nvidia. I almost wonder if Notion Ink wants to get caught with their hands in the Honeycomb jar - would at least make Google stand up and finally take notice to a Harmony vendor.
I know that us GTAB'ers didn't expect much of a future, but we know Honeycomb can work given enough resources. This whole situation has totally soured me in regards to Android tablets, and Nvidia devices in particular.
I didn't expect much when I got my GTab just wanted a cool tab to read and play a few games. I personally am probably gonna get an hp touchpad and give my mom my GTab so she can play games and video chat with her BF when he is in Iraq
Notion Ink Blog
Read the June 25th entry:
http://notionink.wordpress.com/
roebeet said:
My bigger concern is whether or not Google will stand up and take notice of this NI ROM (and I don't mean in a good way, I mean in a "cease and desist" kind of way).
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What would their motivations be? To make us buy more tablets?
That doesn't seem inline with their "do-no-evil" philosophy, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were to happen, for this reason ;;
But would it be Google that would issue such a request, or the companies that took the Honeycomb platform and developed firmware specifically for their products? I would guess the latter, since it's probably with them that we entered a "thou shalt not reverse compile thine firmware, for it is holy" agreement, not with Google.
scyld said:
What would their motivations be? To make us buy more tablets?
That doesn't seem inline with their "do-no-evil" philosophy, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were to happen, for this reason ;;
But would it be Google that would issue such a request, or the companies that took the Honeycomb platform and developed firmware specifically for their products? I would guess the latter, since it's probably with them that we entered a "thou shalt not reverse compile thine firmware, for it is holy" agreement, not with Google.
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I think you're saying, if someone takes a ROM and modifies it to run on the Notion Adam, and then the folks at Notion stick that ROM on their website, Notion might get served a request to take that ROM down. I dunno, it's open source so other parties have every right to take the code, modify it, and distribute it.
Hello I have the gtab the stock rom, if I make the root with SuperOneClick I can then apply honeycomb update.zip?
StereoD said:
Hello I have the gtab the stock rom, if I make the root with SuperOneClick I can then apply honeycomb update.zip?
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You don't have to root the device before running one of these ROM updates - the GTAB's stock recovery is not locked down and can accept custom ROM's.
As always, read the modder's directions as they might require things as a pre-requisite. For example, cyanagenmod usually requires clockworkmod as a pre-req. Again, best to ask the modder if it's not stated in their post.
roebeet said:
You don't have to root the device before running one of these ROM updates - the GTAB's stock recovery is not locked down and can accept custom ROM's.
As always, read the modder's directions as they might require things as a pre-requisite. For example, cyanagenmod usually requires clockworkmod as a pre-req. Again, best to ask the modder if it's not stated in their post.
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Means that it is possible to apply the update.zip in the stock rom on gtab? I can download the file and then apply it in recovery mode?