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Commentary for the newbie’s

A little commentary for the newbie’s just getting a G_Tab or discovering this forum and feeling a little overwhelmed….
I would describe myself as a high end user with good skills but not a programmer by trade. I’m a good reader and follow processes.
I bought my first G Tab mid November from Sears.
Out of the box I was like “What the @ell”…. I currently had an iPad and the comparison was night and day.
If it wasn’t for “roebeet” it was headed back to Sears faster than I could start the car. TNT Lite saved it from the scrap yard.
I’m naming my first child “roebeet:…
Currently I have 3 VS G Tabs…. “Don’t ask, Don’t tell”…..
#1 is my daily driver I use for work… Current ROM is VEGA-n 5.1 with Clemsyn's KERNEL
I have tied every ROM and Kernel out there and this is by far the most solid. I trust this to go on the road with me and use for work.
Pretty much 95% of apps work and it’s been so long since it’s FC’d or done anything “funny” I can’t remember.
Keyboards, mouse control, GPS connect, BT, DOCK, etc all work as they should.
#2 is my CRASH TEST DUMMY. It has been used and abused with every ROM, Kernel, Apps you can find on this board.
This is the one I use to try out all the ROMS, Apps, Kernels the Developers have all worked so hard on.
This one has been to @ell and back several times and keeps ticking.
Currently running NI Adam…. Not a big fan so far.
#3 is totally stock ROM with VS updates. Doesn’t even have the Enhancement packs.
This is my spare part tablet if needed. So far, so good.
As mentioned I have 32 gig iPad since they first came out. For the “Average” user this is what they need. Turn on and go.
I RARELY touch this anymore and will probably sell it down the road. What I can do on the Gtab doesn’t even compare to the iPad anymore.
I show the G tab to folks and they start to drool. But I quickly let them know this is like a Porsche, it’s awesome but takes some upkeep and tweaks.
Obviously everyone is waiting for Honeycomb to make its way to the G Tab, but I can tell you until then, VEGA-n will get the job done.
If you are just finding this forum and are looking to take your Tablet to the next level, that’s a good place to start.
We are all indebted to developers and users on this forum for all their time and efforts to help all the G Tab owners.
A very sincere thank you…

Nicely Said and Deserved!!!

BRAVO! nicely written.

[email protected] said:
A little commentary for the newbie’s just getting a G_Tab or discovering this forum and feeling a little overwhelmed….
I would describe myself as a high end user with good skills but not a programmer by trade. I’m a good reader and follow processes.
I bought my first G Tab mid November from Sears.
Out of the box I was like “What the @ell”…. I currently had an iPad and the comparison was night and day.
If it wasn’t for “roebeet” it was headed back to Sears faster than I could start the car. TNT Lite saved it from the scrap yard.
I’m naming my first child “roebeet:…
Currently I have 3 VS G Tabs…. “Don’t ask, Don’t tell”…..
#1 is my daily driver I use for work… Current ROM is VEGA-n 5.1 with Clemsyn's KERNEL
I have tied every ROM and Kernel out there and this is by far the most solid. I trust this to go on the road with me and use for work.
Pretty much 95% of apps work and it’s been so long since it’s FC’d or done anything “funny” I can’t remember.
Keyboards, mouse control, GPS connect, BT, DOCK, etc all work as they should.
#2 is my CRASH TEST DUMMY. It has been used and abused with every ROM, Kernel, Apps you can find on this board.
This is the one I use to try out all the ROMS, Apps, Kernels the Developers have all worked so hard on.
This one has been to @ell and back several times and keeps ticking.
Currently running NI Adam…. Not a big fan so far.
#3 is totally stock ROM with VS updates. Doesn’t even have the Enhancement packs.
This is my spare part tablet if needed. So far, so good.
As mentioned I have 32 gig iPad since they first came out. For the “Average” user this is what they need. Turn on and go.
I RARELY touch this anymore and will probably sell it down the road. What I can do on the Gtab doesn’t even compare to the iPad anymore.
I show the G tab to folks and they start to drool. But I quickly let them know this is like a Porsche, it’s awesome but takes some upkeep and tweaks.
Obviously everyone is waiting for Honeycomb to make its way to the G Tab, but I can tell you until then, VEGA-n will get the job done.
If you are just finding this forum and are looking to take your Tablet to the next level, that’s a good place to start.
We are all indebted to developers and users on this forum for all their time and efforts to help all the G Tab owners.
A very sincere thank you…
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Great post.
I first flashed to CM7 and was highly disappointed.
I flashed back to stock because of USB driver issues in CM7
Then went to VEGAn5 and have loved the tablet ever since.
I think Honeycomb will take the Gtab even further and I can't wait.

+1
Bought my gtab with hopes Viewsonic update would make it usable. No such luck. With no Android experience Iused instructions here to root and flash Vegan tab 5.1. No problems and tablet is now a pleasure to use. The developers here are fantastic. Can't wait for future releases

Great post - I am enjoying my g-tab. New to Android but good a PC and programming. The openness compared to the ipad works really well for me.
And we only have new developments to look forward to. Pretty cool.

Stock ROM wasn't as bad as I was expecting but that might be because I updated to latest version right away. However, definitely enjoying VEGAn 5.1 far more than stock. Think I hit 8 posts so I can stop posting my opinion everywhere and wait until I have something useful to say.
EDIT: need 10 posts

much appreciation to all
I too wish to share my gratitude, this is a very supportive community

4rs fed said:
Great post.
I first flashed to CM7 and was highly disappointed.
I flashed back to stock because of USB driver issues in CM7
Then went to VEGAn5 and have loved the tablet ever since.
I think Honeycomb will take the Gtab even further and I can't wait.
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Then went to VEGAn5 and have loved the tablet ever since.
Amen....

[email protected] said:
What I can do on the Gtab doesn’t even compare to the iPad anymore.
I show the G tab to folks and they start to drool.
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Just curious to know what extra things you do with the GTab over the ipad?
btw I'm a fan too.. just got mine a week ago and havent put it down since.

But...
Alright, so I see all the Vegan love on this thread and I just have to ask.... I have been on Vegan for about a week after being on TnT Lite. I LOVE the interface and a lot about Vegan, but it does not seem to be nearly as stable as TnT Lite. It seems to hang from time to time and it just reboot's itself 5 or 6 times a day.
Now I can say that I am running the Kernel that comes with the distribution and I am thinking about changing the Kernel. So my question for the others with stable Vegan installs is if....
a. Vegan just hangs and reboots now and again. (I could actually live with it)
b. I need to change out the Kernel
c. I'm a fool and a noob and I should just wipe this thing and try again.

Try pershoot's kernel. Fast, smooth, and stable for me

After experiencing many CF errors using TNTLite 3.1.3 installed on the original settings I have just re-partitioned (2048,0) and formatted the SDCARD. Then installed TNT Lite 4.2.1.
So far this has been rock-stable.
What advantages do you see in using VegaN instead of TNTLite?

simon-edwards said:
After experiencing many CF errors using TNTLite 3.1.3 installed on the original settings I have just re-partitioned (2048,0) and formatted the SDCARD. Then installed TNT Lite 4.2.1.
So far this has been rock-stable.
What advantages do you see in using VegaN instead of TNTLite?
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Thanks for the comments. I installed Clemsyns kernel last night and it seems that it made a big difference. Things just feel faster and more fluid when using the Gtab with this kernel. I also have stopped seeing the crash/restart when i wakeup the device. I know that others have reported the wakeup problem even with clemsyn, but it fixed it for me.
Noe, for my vegan experience... I really like the look and feel of vegan better. TnT lite is simar to stock. It worked well, but was not as easy to use. Vegan has the full setyings menus and a slightly more detailed front end interface and shell. It has a really nicr status bar as well. I cannot say that it has anything that i could not live without, but it just seems to have everything i need and like.

[email protected] said:
A little commentary for the newbie’s just getting a G_Tab or discovering this forum and feeling a little overwhelmed….
I would describe myself as a high end user with good skills but not a programmer by trade. I’m a good reader and follow processes.
I bought my first G Tab mid November from Sears.
Out of the box I was like “What the @ell”…. I currently had an iPad and the comparison was night and day.
If it wasn’t for “roebeet” it was headed back to Sears faster than I could start the car. TNT Lite saved it from the scrap yard.
I’m naming my first child “roebeet:…
Currently I have 3 VS G Tabs…. “Don’t ask, Don’t tell”…..
#1 is my daily driver I use for work… Current ROM is VEGA-n 5.1 with Clemsyn's KERNEL
I have tied every ROM and Kernel out there and this is by far the most solid. I trust this to go on the road with me and use for work.
Pretty much 95% of apps work and it’s been so long since it’s FC’d or done anything “funny” I can’t remember.
Keyboards, mouse control, GPS connect, BT, DOCK, etc all work as they should.
#2 is my CRASH TEST DUMMY. It has been used and abused with every ROM, Kernel, Apps you can find on this board.
This is the one I use to try out all the ROMS, Apps, Kernels the Developers have all worked so hard on.
This one has been to @ell and back several times and keeps ticking.
Currently running NI Adam…. Not a big fan so far.
#3 is totally stock ROM with VS updates. Doesn’t even have the Enhancement packs.
This is my spare part tablet if needed. So far, so good.
As mentioned I have 32 gig iPad since they first came out. For the “Average” user this is what they need. Turn on and go.
I RARELY touch this anymore and will probably sell it down the road. What I can do on the Gtab doesn’t even compare to the iPad anymore.
I show the G tab to folks and they start to drool. But I quickly let them know this is like a Porsche, it’s awesome but takes some upkeep and tweaks.
Obviously everyone is waiting for Honeycomb to make its way to the G Tab, but I can tell you until then, VEGA-n will get the job done.
If you are just finding this forum and are looking to take your Tablet to the next level, that’s a good place to start.
We are all indebted to developers and users on this forum for all their time and efforts to help all the G Tab owners.
A very sincere thank you…
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You sold me.
This is definitely the tablet I am going to pick up

[email protected] said:
A little commentary for the newbie’s just getting a G_Tab or discovering this forum and feeling a little overwhelmed…
We are all indebted to developers and users on this forum for all their time and efforts to help all the G Tab owners.
A very sincere thank you…
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Well said... and Ditto
For the last 75 days this tab has been a workhorse for me. A few accessories missing and one or two enhancments would be great, but otherwise a great tab.
Regards,

Been lurking here for a few days now, but this is deff the tab I want from all the post here I have read. The gentlemen here have done such a wonderful job in making it a top tablet to get. Thanks..

I feel very lucky. I started looking for tablets a while ago but was disappointed by what I found at the normal electronics stores. Then I ran across this thing at Sears (who buys their electronics from Sears) and bought one based solely on the hardware specs. I figured if anything could run Android this thing could. Disappointed out-of-the-box (like everyone else)... found these forums, and within a few hours had VEGAN up and running and couldn't wait to squelch a few ipad zealots at work the next day. Thank you to everyone that has shared your knowledge and time with the rest of us.

As a newbie ( my G tab arrived yesterday) and a non-techie (I don't even own a mobile phone), I really appreciate the original post, thank you.
I'm going to put Vegan on mine.
Quick question:
What does a "kernel" do? Is that something like a BIOS in a laptop?

Another noob guilty of lurking for the past few days. Over the weekend I spent many hours googling/researching a tablet. Everytime I thought I had found a keeper I discovered it had serious drawbacks. Then I stumbled upon the VS Gtab. I was impressed with its hardware. I am in no way versed in Rooting/flashing but I can read and follow directions so I do not anticipate any serious problems. I ordered my Gtab yesterday and am continuing to study this site so when the time comes I will be ready to Root and Flash (sounds fun). My son and son in law are both programmers so I figure between the good folks on this site and us three I should have a kick ass Tablet when all is said and done. So "stick it up your nose Apple"
Tt

About to join the G2x crew, need some advice.

I've read plenty of crap about the G2x and how terrible it can be. Is there a way to tell apart the bad batches from the good ones? Maybe by IMEI? Baseband? OS version?
Thanks!

honestly, ive had my G2x since may? and only problem ive ever had(and still have) is slight screen bleed on my top corners.
other than that, i love and enjoy this phone everyday !

AndroidKills said:
honestly, ive had my G2x since may? and only problem ive ever had(and still have) is slight screen bleed on my top corners.
other than that, i love and enjoy this phone everyday !
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Agreed. I got my phone off of Craigslist and it's even a winner. This is my favorite phone...of all time, maybe. Came from a Vibrant and I won't own another Samsung product for a while.

No good or bad batches. They all come with junk software which is easy fixed with Nvflasher and a custom rom.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

OP, do yourself a favor and find a different phone. Honestly, this phone isn't worth the trouble you'll put yourself through. There are better options out there, no need to subject yourself to dealing with the G2X. Perfect example, it's December and they're trying a 2nd time around to release the gingerbread update...the phone came out in April! That should have been done a long time ago. That being said, how soon do you expect it to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich? Find another device, it isn't worth the trouble.

mysterioustko said:
OP, do yourself a favor and find a different phone. Honestly, this phone isn't worth the trouble you'll put yourself through. There are better options out there, no need to subject yourself to dealing with the G2X. Perfect example, it's December and they're trying a 2nd time around to release the gingerbread update...the phone came out in April! That should have been done a long time ago. That being said, how soon do you expect it to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich? Find another device, it isn't worth the trouble.
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We're already getting alpha's of ICS. And since we're all on XDA, we've all had GB since CM7. I don't see any other reason to deter him away from this device.

mackster248 said:
We're already getting alpha's of ICS. And since we're all on XDA, we've all had GB since CM7. I don't see any other reason to deter him away from this device.
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What newer device doesn't have an alpha build of ICS yet? Really, that's nothing to hang your hat on. Truth be told you may never get a bug free build of ICS until the actually release comes out, or at least leaks with the things they will need to make it more stable and bug free. That didn't even really happen completely with gingerbread. The phone's fine if you're someone who's already stuck with it, and can't get out of it (for whatever reason). But, I couldn't in good conscience recommend anyone to purchase this phone. Fact is, if he intends to have anything even close to a pleasant experience HE WILL HAVE TO HACK HIS PHONE, and even then there aren't any guarantees. There are much better options out there.

Honestly the g2x still outperforms most other newer phones released this year( exnyos sgs2 aside )
With ics confirmed for our devices and both cm team and our brilliant devs here on g2x thread who got hw acceleration and just about everything else working for a beta release, I'd say our g2x's are go for their true potential. Though not quite ahead of its time as the hd2 was.. when ics is released for g2x it will only future proof the device longer since that is the OS meant to keep g2x owners happy they kept it!
Oh and I wouldn't say hacking the g2x is difficult anyways, since its one of the easiest phones to root ever lol
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

Try this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374011
Though the installation and post-installation is PAIN IN YOUR ASS, it works 100% with nearly zero problem after it's done and it's worth the pain.

mysterioustko said:
OP, do yourself a favor and find a different phone. Honestly, this phone isn't worth the trouble you'll put yourself through. There are better options out there, no need to subject yourself to dealing with the G2X. Perfect example, it's December and they're trying a 2nd time around to release the gingerbread update...the phone came out in April! That should have been done a long time ago. That being said, how soon do you expect it to be upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich? Find another device, it isn't worth the trouble.
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yep,listen to him. Please read through the forum so that way you are well informed. I WILL NOT EVEN RECOMMEND THIS PHONE TO A DUMB PERSON. LG really screwed all their so called phones up.
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium

I like this phone, it's only the second smartphone I've ever had and my other was a failberry. I had no experience with android and managed to root and flash a rom with no problems only a couple weeks after getting it. I will agree that this is not the greatest phone out of the box with the software, but if you enjoy flashing roms and trying things out it has some good hardware for the price. Some people enjoy rooting and exploring things, and this is a good phone for them IMO.

mysterioustko said:
What newer device doesn't have an alpha build of ICS yet? Really, that's nothing to hang your hat on. Truth be told you may never get a bug free build of ICS until the actually release comes out, or at least leaks with the things they will need to make it more stable and bug free. That didn't even really happen completely with gingerbread. The phone's fine if you're someone who's already stuck with it, and can't get out of it (for whatever reason). But, I couldn't in good conscience recommend anyone to purchase this phone. Fact is, if he intends to have anything even close to a pleasant experience HE WILL HAVE TO HACK HIS PHONE, and even then there aren't any guarantees. There are much better options out there.
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Then maybe it's user error on your part because the stock GB build was perfectly fine for me. Rooted or not rooted, my phone has never shut down, rebooted, or SOD. It's fine if you don't like the phone, but it would be ignorant to deter someone away from it just because you had a bad experience. There's many that have good experiences with this phone.
Stock ROM is fine.
Custom ROM's based on stock are good.
And CM7 is even better.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

I said Fcuk what people where saying and made the jump.....Or at least will be soon
Has anyone actually used a phone that didnt have a bug? People get upset after spending money a phone that doesnt in turn make them coffee lol, help the phone...so that in return it helps you!

dapoharoun said:
I said Fcuk what people where saying and made the jump.....Or at least will be soon
Has anyone actually used a phone that didnt have a bug? People get upset after spending money a phone that doesnt in turn make them coffee lol, help the phone...so that in return it helps you!
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I am on my 4th replacement LG-P999 (G2X/WIND Optimus 2X) which I got within the first 15 days of getting the first one and this one has screen bleed at the top corners and light leakage along both edges leaking through the LCD mask. Hardware-wise, if it doesn't have any problems, it is a good phone but the support for it from LG is abysmal, they should be forced out of the cell phone business for that. This phone is only as good as it is because of the hard work done by various developers here and elsewhere who I can't thank enough for that. If you like modding your phone's functions and capabilities, this is probably the best phone for that other than the Optimus 2X P990 model which has the added ability of installing various basebands. When ICS is available with video acceleration, the better camera (no lag), etc., it will significantly improve this phone's operation to what it should have been when it was first sold, it was ahead of Android's ability to take advantage of its hardware. Even if LG does provide ICS for this phone which, although they have promised to provide for the Optimus family of phones such as the 2X, I don't believe it will because it has already moved on in preference to support its 3D phone for which it has released an update to double the phone's 3G/4G speed and other significant improvements. If I were to buy another phone, even though the new Nexus does not have the best hardware, it would be that because it has ICS and will be updated for at least the next 18 months. Second to that would be the new Samsung which is promised to get ICS which I do trust Samsung to do. I will never buy another LG phone or other LG product because LG is so unethical in its business practises. So, you pays your money and takes your chances, just don't bet on a known loser, LG.

[Q] What happened to development for this phone?

I've been running the same ROM on my phone for the past 4 months which is UNHEARD of for me. I like trying and testing new roms (that actually work) but at this point there just isn't anything new. What happened to all the development?? I used to see a new ROM every week!

This device is a year old now. Development slows near that mark. I imagine more roms when Ics is released.

I dont really see this as a big deal -- so long as anything major gets taken care of...
Liquid gb 3.2 is working great for me, so im happy to stay on this...
Sent from my HTC ThunderBolt

RaFF_MyZZteR said:
I've been running the same ROM on my phone for the past 4 months which is UNHEARD of for me. I like trying and testing new roms (that actually work) but at this point there just isn't anything new. What happened to all the development?? I used to see a new ROM every week!
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Most of them left because people kept pestering them to slave away all day and night
Only half serious, but yeah there are quite a few people that are always asking like this stuff is easy to do. Phone is a year old and people lose interest in putting out new stuff when there's no updates to work off of from HTC and Verizon. That and there was quite a bit of drama involved with a few ROMs that took some of the motivation out of at least one or so developers from bad attitudes by users.
People theme and develop for a few reasons (typically in this order):
1) They own/use the device
2) They like modding and hacking software for fun
3) They like the community they're modding for
When they no longer do #1 (as many have gone to the Nexus or other devices), if they don't have both #2 and #3 going for them, it gets harder to find the motivation to keep on going.
When a major release comes out again like ICS, there will be more development and then it'll eventually trickle off again. That's the way it works, especially now that there are an abundance of android devices on verizon compared to 2-3 years ago when there was basically a handful.
If you want new all the time, then get a new phone. Most preferably the Nexus as it's going to get updates for at least the next 3 or more years. Otherwise, in a year from now, you'll be asking this same question again with any other device most likely.
Honestly I was never a "crack flasher" and never had the interest in trying most ROMs. I've used CM7 for 80% of the past 12 months and never found interest to try anything else.

yareally said:
Most of them left because people kept pestering them to slave away all day and night
Only half serious, but yeah there are quite a few people that are always asking like this stuff is easy to do. Phone is a year old and people lose interest in putting out new stuff when there's no updates to work off of from HTC and Verizon. That and there was quite a bit of drama involved with a few ROMs that took some of the motivation out of at least one or so developers from bad attitudes by users.
People theme and develop for a few reasons (typically in this order):
1) They own/use the device
2) They like modding and hacking software for fun
3) They like the community they're modding for
When they no longer do #1 (as many have gone to the Nexus or other devices), if they don't have both #2 and #3 going for them, it gets harder to find the motivation to keep on going.
When a major release comes out again like ICS, there will be more development and then it'll eventually trickle off again. That's the way it works, especially now that there are an abundance of android devices on verizon compared to 2-3 years ago when there was basically a handful.
If you want new all the time, then get a new phone. Most preferably the Nexus as it's going to get updates for at least the next 3 or more years. Otherwise, in a year from now, you'll be asking this same question again with any other device most likely.
Honestly I was never a "crack flasher" and never had the interest in trying most ROMs. I've used CM7 for 80% of the past 12 months and never found interest to try anything else.
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So does this mean its the end of the Thunderbolt. Its kinda a crying shame. We have had this device now for only a little over a year. That seems way to short to just up and move on to a new device. I cant believe I am saying this, but with the Iphone atleast there is a few years between the release of each new device. Sure they are always updating the software, but atleast your on same hardware. With a android base phone you HAVE to keep dumping out tons of money to keep up with the lastest and greatest. It gets expensive. With that said, which has been a big complaint in the community of technology, we keep buying the new products on the day it comes out. Its a wonder how anything goods come out for the new devices. Which in turn makes the Mods/Devs have to work harder to be able to keep up with the fast paced change of the Android world. It sucks how fast something gets thrown to the wayside.....I Love the Thunderbolt and I do not plan on getting a new phone when my contract ends. (I love being contract free) So Thank you Mods/Devs for the Roms that you have put out, and thank you for working so hard so I can enjoy this phones 5 mins of fame.

imagelost said:
So does this mean its the end of the Thunderbolt. Its kinda a crying shame. We have had this device now for only a little over a year. That seems way to short to just up and move on to a new device.
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The end? I think you tl;dr'ed my post. Development is just in a recession until something worth doing comes out again (ICS). It won't obviously be the same as it was when the device came out, but obviously nothing can ever hit the peak that a new device has in interest no matter what it is.
I also don't see how an iphone will solve your problems. You'll just be mad you can't do anything with your device (which seems to be your problem with Android too, but you won't be able to flash anything on an iphone).

To be completely honest, I sorta had an idea of the answer to my own question before I asked it but thought I'd open it up to other input as well. I am well aware that there hasn't been any new updates or upgrades from HTC or Verizon for our phones so I don't blame the developers for getting bored and moving on. I just wish the development continued as it had started. I had the original Motorola Droid (first generation) and the development on that phone was so strong that I guess I'm just saddened by the lackluster effort for further development.
Either way, big thank you to the developers who have and continue to develop for our phones. Cheers to you guys!
PS. Big, fat donation to whoever develops the first full working ICS ROM for our phones

Nothing but now the world have new phones and the developers work more in the new phones...
Enviado desde mi HTC Thunderbolt usando Tapatalk

yareally said:
The end? I think you tl;dr'ed my post. Development is just in a recession until something worth doing comes out again (ICS). It won't obviously be the same as it was when the device came out, but obviously nothing can ever hit the peak that a new device has in interest no matter what it is.
I also don't see how an iphone will solve your problems. You'll just be mad you can't do anything with your device (which seems to be your problem with Android too, but you won't be able to flash anything on an iphone).
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So have they figured out how to fix the data issues with AOSP roms? That seems to be the biggest thing left to do until ICS comes out.

You can always develop your own roms to get your fix. It's what I've been doing. In fact I'm working on my own 3.5 rom atm.

RaFF_MyZZteR said:
I've been running the same ROM on my phone for the past 4 months which is UNHEARD of for me. I like trying and testing new roms (that actually work) but at this point there just isn't anything new. What happened to all the development?? I used to see a new ROM every week!
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I took my old Thunderbolt out and flashed it with the ThunderStick Full Blown Sense 3.0 ROM because I was bored and it's pretty cool. I liked it enough to set it up for my wife, who's been using a Dinc with CM7 for a long time. She really likes it and the guys at the Verizon store were perplexed by the fact that it looked like a Rezound (Sense) when installing the SIM.

Seriously, why is our phone so neglected?

Honestly, the A2 has great performance, it is not top of the line, but it is certainly pretty high end. It has a decent feel overall, but still know one knows about it. Why is this?!!? I'm not even talking strictly from a development standpoint, as it is just so unheard of. everyone knows about the whole droid line and such, but our great phone is completely neglected. There is no way i'm the only one that is bothered by this, especially because there is so much potential in our phone. I know the locked bootloader, makes things difficult, but a way around that is near, so do y'all think development will take off once we get it bypassed or unlocked? Thanks for listening to my rant and feel free to give your own opinion

Motorola or Att did not push this phone like they did with the original Atrix. Most people are going with samsung (sgs2 or the note). That is why we do not have very many devs. Samsung phone are much easier to work with. I know because i have one. If no one else decides to get this phone that's fine with me. I like the phone as is. Im also happy with the few devs we have. Their work is greatly appreciated.
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Once cm9 or a form of ics gets calling and texting going then things will start to kick off. Right now with our limited amount of knowledgeable devs some have lost interest and are just sitting by waiting for Motorola to release ics.
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you aren't the only one. It pisses me off. I always have service on this phone, for the most part it's fast and smooth, and the ROM support is becoming awesome. Yet still people don't know the name of my phone , they just know it's "big"

tsdeaton said:
Once cm9 or a form of ics gets calling and texting going then things will start to kick off. Right now with our limited amount of knowledgeable devs some have lost interest and are just sitting by waiting for Motorola to release ics.
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Actually, one of the orignal devs for this phone (been on it since it came out) has not lost interest but is working on kexec for our phone which is BY FAR more important than ICS... The possibilities are endless once we have a bootloader bypass.
Motorola did not advertise or really let ANYONE know that the phone was being released. For example, when I walked into the AT&T store with a $100 and a contract renewal, I just browsed/tried all of the phones they had in stock, and happend to like the feature set/performance of the Atrix 2 the best. The funny part is that I had NO idea that the phone actually came out the day before and was just put on display. Luckily the phone is great and the community to go along with it is even greater.

Honestly I'm on Supercharged right now, clocked around 1.25 GHz, and I can go higher, but my battery life sucks. I don't really care about the attention. We're getting ICS, and I'm hoping I don't have a good enough excuse to go back to stock until ICS is out. Then I'm going back to stock for sure. The speed is great, the lagginess and bloat on the stock rom just sucked, but so does my battery life now. It doesn't really take a whole lot to trim down a stock rom, I'm sure someone will do it for ICS if I don't myself.

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Honestly I'm on Supercharged right now, clocked around 1.25 GHz, and I can go higher, but my battery life sucks. I don't really care about the attention. We're getting ICS, and I'm hoping I don't have a good enough excuse to go back to stock until ICS is out. Then I'm going back to stock for sure. The speed is great, the lagginess and bloat on the stock rom just sucked, but so does my battery life now. It doesn't really take a whole lot to trim down a stock rom, I'm sure someone will do it for ICS if I don't myself.
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Freezing apps does wonders for performance + battery life. I use Titanium Backup for this. All the "junk apps" that Motorola/AT&T installed (that I don't use) get frozen.
The End.

Some of our roms are great, but there are only 4 or 5 or something, it would be nice to see some of the big ones like cm7. hopefully an unlocked BL and ICS will spark some serious development. I think the biggest problem is the lack of serious developers. Who do we really have? Jimbridgman, lfabor06, and Rdavisct are the only ones I can really think of off the top of my head. We all play a role, but only the true genius' like them do a lot of good towards roms and things

To buy an Atrix 2, I had to special order it from Amazon. The local places didn't sell it because it didn't work with LTE in the area, and were mainly pushing iStuff.
Motorola needs to wake up and start tooting their own horn. The Atrix 2 has been an excellent phone, both in the reception department (better voice and call quality than my HTC and iPhone), CPU department, and in general usage.
Plus, there is an untapped market for these types of phones -- business people who just need a basic laptop where all their data is stored securely at one place, either on the phone with the on device encryption (or SD encryption), or using a Citrix receiver.

farshad525hou said:
Actually, one of the orignal devs for this phone (been on it since it came out) has not lost interest but is working on kexec for our phone which is BY FAR more important than ICS... The possibilities are endless once we have a bootloader bypass.
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This really is the truth of the matter. Until we can load custom kernels on the A2, the devs are kinda limited on what they can modify. ICS with a locked bootloader is not much better than GB with a locked bootloader.
My wife has a Samsung Galaxy and the A2 is better in almost every area; reception, interface, speaker...

Thinking about buying a TF700.. Few questions. Need advice

hey you all. im shopping for a used tablet and I have seen a few of these TF700 and also tf300 going online for around $150 10.1 screen.looks like the tf300 is the lower model version
Just wondering how is the community going on here with these tablets? looks like its still going strong and supported!
Anything i should know about these tablets or should I stay away from these. seems like a good tablet for a good price and it also seems these tablets are pretty fast
Thanks for your advice and help!

they are fast for the first month, then go to utter ****. you will have to wipe it clean and fresh install your roms on it biweekly in order for it to be usable. the specs and price are tempting, but the track record of them sucks, avoid at all cost.

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they are fast for the first month, then go to utter ****. you will have to wipe it clean and fresh install your roms on it biweekly in order for it to be usable. the specs and price are tempting, but the track record of them sucks, avoid at all cost.
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What about the ME302C asus? I can get one for about the same price. Specs look better and the tablet is newer

do you plan on rooting or romming the tablet or are you happy with stock?

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they are fast for the first month, then go to utter ****. you will have to wipe it clean and fresh install your roms on it biweekly in order for it to be usable. the specs and price are tempting, but the track record of them sucks, avoid at all cost.
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do you plan on rooting or romming the tablet or are you happy with stock?
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Rooting custom rom
But I made up my mind. Im going to get the Asus ME302 instead of this. Seems better and same price. But i dont see a section for the 302 device (sad face)

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Rooting custom rom
But I made up my mind. Im going to get the Asus ME302 instead of this. Seems better and same price. But i dont see a section for the 302 device (sad face)
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there is a good chance that means there is no development on it, like roms... search for the modding process on what ever you buy before you buy so you don't get disappointed.

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there is a good chance that means there is no development on it, like roms... search for the modding process on what ever you buy before you buy so you don't get disappointed.
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there is some threads on it, nevermind non on roms, Geez i really like that tab too

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there is a good chance that means there is no development on it, like roms... search for the modding process on what ever you buy before you buy so you don't get disappointed.
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So now my choices are the me301t, tf300

Changed my mind again. i think im going to go with this tablet.. The screen and quad core got my heart, i could get a me302 btu the screen is not as good as this one

go ahead and get a class 10 sd card too then. apparently rom2sd is the only way to get these things to work but i haven't confirmed that first hand...yet.

With the right rom and data2sd (rom2sd is for dual booting - doesn't add anything to performance) the TF700 is a really nice tablet.
But check prices for the TF701. They've been coming down and even with the best custom rom on the TF700, the TF701 is MUCH better even on stock.
But then - the development community around the TF700 is wider, very active, loads of fun and deeply dedicated to make it the best it can be.
Much less going on in the TF701 forums and that it is pretty darn good out of the box probably has a lot to with it.
For the record: I own both and have been tinkering with both for close to 2 and 1 year respectively.

I just got the TF700 after coming from the TF300. I must say while I like the TF700 screen reso, I cannot believe the amount of jittery-ness it has. The TF300 is smooth as butter. But the TF700 has some jittery-ness to it. Even simple things like switching home page you can see a bit of stuttering going on. Opening apps drawer is the same thing. (I'm using apex launcher btw). I'm not a huge gamer. Mainly was gonna use this for development and movies/web browsing. Which is does just fine. I highly recommend the TF701 though. I may just sell both my tablets for the TF701. However, like berndblb said, there is a lot of development going on for the TF700. TF701 is non existent (Too new i guess?)
EDIT: About data2sd, never used it and never had to. Don't know why everyone thinks you absolutely need it. because you dont.

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I just got the TF700 after coming from the TF300. I must say while I like the TF700 screen reso, I cannot believe the amount of jittery-ness it has. The TF300 is smooth as butter. But the TF700 has some jittery-ness to it. Even simple things like switching home page you can see a bit of stuttering going on. Opening apps drawer is the same thing. (I'm using apex launcher btw). I'm not a huge gamer. Mainly was gonna use this for development and movies/web browsing. Which is does just fine. I highly recommend the TF701 though. I may just sell both my tablets for the TF701. However, like berndblb said, there is a lot of development going on for the TF700. TF701 is non existent (Too new i guess?)
EDIT: About data2sd, never used it and never had to. Don't know why everyone thinks you absolutely need it. because you dont.
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Well - non-existent is a bit harsh. pershoot is maintaining CM and sbdags has a CROMi-X for the 701. There's another unofficial AOSP that I have not tried.
If you never tried data2sd you don't know what you're missing
Especially on the TF700 with it's slow emmc (did you say jittery-ness, did you mention stuttering? LOL) it does make quite a difference.

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Well - non-existent is a bit harsh. pershoot is maintaining CM and sbdags has a CROMi-X for the 701. There's another unofficial AOSP that I have not tried.
If you never tried data2sd you don't know what you're missing
Especially on the TF700 with it's slow emmc (did you say jittery-ness, did you mention stuttering? LOL) it does make quite a difference.
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Yeah I guess non-existent is a bit harsh . Pershoot is doing a great job from what it looks. I am trying to stick with LP for my development device to make sure my apps work on the latest version of Android.
And when I said jittery-ness, its seems more GPU related then writing to the memory blocks. Like simply switching home pages, how's that related to writing to memory?

came across a asus 301T for $75.. are those any good?