[HOW TO] Debranding /Installing different/recovering bricked firmware on your Defy - Defy Android Development

Disclaimer: I will not be held responsible for any damage to your phone, your PC or indeed your life from following this guide. The steps in this guide worked for me. If you have problems uninstall everything and start from Step 4 again. Doing this kind of thing could affect your warranty and all that so have a long hard think about it before you go ahead
US Owners - If you flash the UK firmware, you will lose 3g and wifi calling app etc... There are fixes for this problem that can be found on other Forums. A guide on how to restore this which has worked for others is HERE
##WARNING: be careful when flashing 2.51 firmware, firstly its patched so root isn't achievable by the usual methods, and isn't easy to downgrade back to other firmware - I suggest you search and read the various topics on it. My advice is to use 2.21 UK or 2.34 Deblur firmware##
This guide will show you how to debrand your Motorola Defy (Eg bought on T-Mobile UK and want generic UK firmware), or indeed restore the phone if you brick (Eg removing important apps that you shouldn’t have touched!!)
Props go to jutley (Modaco)for his debranding guide for the flipout, and dkspook (Modaco) for his information in other threads, and anyone else who thinks they may have contributed, oh yeah and my Mum.
##Disconnect phone from PC##
STEP 1 Download usb drivers here below
Motorola Drivers Here
STEP 2 Download the debranded Firmware here (To debrand to generic UK I used the one marked UK - choose the one for your country)
Choose Firmware Here
STEP 3 Download RSDLite - I used v4.9, I found earlier versions would not work. Get it here.
RSDLite 4.9 Here
STEP 4 Install the USB Drivers and the RSDLite program and reboot PC
STEP 5 Extract the firmware file you downloaded a while ago. Then copy the .sbf firmware file to c:\Program files\Motorola\RSDLite folder (installation directory for RDSLite). this should come out as JRDNEM_U3_2.21.0_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA028.0R_USAJORDANRTGB_P026_A007_HWp3_S
rvice1FF.sbf for the UK one.
STEP 6 Start the RSDLite program now where it says filename press the select button and find the .sbf firmware file in c:\Program files\Motorola\RSDLite (it should default to this folder) and select the (sbf) file some details will appear on the right hand side.
STEP 7 We now need to boot the phone into the bootloader (as above make sure the phone is disconnected from USB – not sure if matters tho!). Hold the volume up and then power the phone on, after about 5 seconds release the buttons and the bootloader should display - it will show the version and a battery check. Now plug in the USB cable and it should install the drivers . Once the driver installation has finished you should see the phone appear at the bottom of the RSDLite program window under `port 1` - Once this is there you are ready to flash the firmware. NB: I had issues getting it to show a number of times. Uninstalling RSDLite/Drivers, rebooting PC, and then reinstalling these resolved this issue.
STEP 8 Press the start button on the RSDLite and just relax while your device gets flashed,debranded etc. you will see a progress status on the right hand side wait till it reaches 100% but please do not disconect it will reboot the phone automaticly and restart the phone.And just wait untill android comes up and fully running untill you disconnect it should read (PLEASE START PHONE MANUALY) on RSDLite when this shows it is safe to unplug.
Hopefully now you will have a debranded/unbricked phone.
One thing I noticed that was cool is that the data partition stayed intact for me when I debranded, meaning all my settings and installed app (providing you hadn’t moved stuff to /system) were still there after the process – cool! The only thing you will have to do is re-root the device.
Hope you find this useful and I look forward to a great community for the Defy!

Nice job! This worked perfectly. We now just need the tmo us FW. I'm kind of iffy about messing with my phone much more until I have a failsafe.

nitewalkergr said:
Nice job! This worked perfectly. We now just need the tmo us FW. I'm kind of iffy about messing with my phone much more until I have a failsafe.
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Whats the benefit of the T-Mobile US Firmware - some kind of extra functionality? If we could get it, we could flash by this method and flash back if we didn't like it anyways I suppose.
In theory this method is a failsafe tho because if you mess any thing up you can get back to a different firmware. I must say I personally would like to get my hands on the original T-Mobile UK .sbf, just in case I wanted to put it back to its original state for returns/repair, so if anyone has found it (I haven't yet) please let me know.

If a tmo us user flashes with the uk FW they lose 3g.
A tmo us or just generic us fw would give us the clean sweep option while keeping our 3g.

Can I use the Uk Firm for a Vodafone Spain Defy??

Higgsy said:
Whats the benefit of the T-Mobile US Firmware - some kind of extra functionality? If we could get it, we could flash by this method and flash back if we didn't like it anyways I suppose.
In theory this method is a failsafe tho because if you mess any thing up you can get back to a different firmware. I must say I personally would like to get my hands on the original T-Mobile UK .sbf, just in case I wanted to put it back to its original state for returns/repair, so if anyone has found it (I haven't yet) please let me know.
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Hi Higgsy, long time no see! Guess its cos you sold your Hero/G2 Touch so you have no need to visit htcdevscene, Its dead there now a days lol. I just got my Defy from T-Mobile UK. I here your after the T-Mobile UK Defy firmware? and I havent rooted or touched the firmware on mine at all, all i've done is charged it up and used as my day to day phone. If you know of a way to pull the firmware from the phone i will gladly upload it for you, if its even possible?
P.s. still got my Hero/G2 Touch not sure if i wanna sell the lil work horse yet lol, what are they selling for these days?

pedrogamo said:
Can I use the Uk Firm for a Vodafone Spain Defy??
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Yes, I have a simfree defy, and this is my versión. Same version for France, UK, Spain, etc

Cesar Pipes said:
Yes, I have a simfree defy, and this is my versión. Same version for France, UK, Spain, etc
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Thanks!! I did it. Now my Defy is debranded. Bye Vodafone!

dj_destruction said:
Hi Higgsy, long time no see! Guess its cos you sold your Hero/G2 Touch so you have no need to visit htcdevscene, Its dead there now a days lol. I just got my Defy from T-Mobile UK. I here your after the T-Mobile UK Defy firmware? and I havent rooted or touched the firmware on mine at all, all i've done is charged it up and used as my day to day phone. If you know of a way to pull the firmware from the phone i will gladly upload it for you, if its even possible?
P.s. still got my Hero/G2 Touch not sure if i wanna sell the lil work horse yet lol, what are they selling for these days?
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Now then DJD!
Na we need the .sbf file for it but it no biggy at the moment. Get it rooted mate - easiest way is to download z4root from the market - works a treat and roots in like 10 secs lol.
Stopped going on htcdevscene for a number of reasons, firstly i could never get on the site and secondly i felt the way it was run was very inconsistent.
Just sold my Hero - they are going for between 80-120 on ebay the top end is for brand new boxed. I have just sold mine to a mobile recycle place for £103. This phone is different gravy to the hero for sure.
Anyway mate look forward to seeing you around again

Thanks for this guide Higgsy, very easy to follow even for a noob like me.
I have now said goodbye to Vodafone's crap a mere 20 minutes after opening the box with my shiny new DEFY in that was delivered today.

milesg said:
Thanks for this guide Higgsy, very easy to follow even for a noob like me.
I have now said goodbye to Vodafone's crap a mere 20 minutes after opening the box with my shiny new DEFY in that was delivered today.
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No probs - Gone be the dirty network custom apps and splash screens!!

Done too. Thank you.

EDIT: Just reflashed and then calibrated the compass. Seems to be working now. Sorry for the unnecessary message.
Ok, having taken the phone out since I got rid of the Vodafone stuff, I've discovered that the GPS is no longer working. I've got GPS Test on it and it only sees one satellite where before it saw a load. I'm going to reload the firmware now, but does anyone have any ideas?

Higgsy what are the benefits of rooting and flashing the generic unbranded software apart from getting rid of the t-mobile rubbish?

tim440 said:
EDIT: Just reflashed and then calibrated the compass. Seems to be working now. Sorry for the unnecessary message.
Ok, having taken the phone out since I got rid of the Vodafone stuff, I've discovered that the GPS is no longer working. I've got GPS Test on it and it only sees one satellite where before it saw a load. I'm going to reload the firmware now, but does anyone have any ideas?
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Hmm strange My GPS is fine, locks on in like 5 secs, maybe try rebooting with GPS switched on, if you haven't already done so.
DJD,
No real benefits apart from getting rid of any tmobile crap, there isn't much bloatware in the tmobile uk build anyways. I just like generic lol. And as for rooting - please tell me that question is joke surely as a seasoned veteran you know what that is geezer

I know rooting opens up a world of goodies but there arent any goodies for this phone yet in the way of ROMS, at least thats what i can gather so far lol. Can it be over clocked and JITenabled yet? after rooting it of course, sorry im being lazy n not google-ing lol.
Plus for my totally blonde moment if i flash the generic uk firmware would it still mean i could get the over the air 2.2 update when it is released by motorola before t-mobile release their bloatware version?

dj_destruction said:
I know rooting opens up a world of goodies but there arent any goodies for this phone yet in the way of ROMS, at least thats what i can gather so far lol. Can it be over clocked and JITenabled yet? after rooting it of course, sorry im being lazy n not google-ing lol.
Plus for my totally blonde moment if i flash the generic uk firmware would it still mean i could get the over the air 2.2 update when it is released by motorola before t-mobile release their bloatware version?
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JIT can be enabled - its not stable imo - I tried it before, gonna have a better look at it.
i would expect you will be able to get the generic 2.2 update, to be fair, I think we will be flashing roms by that time anyways
Anyway stop being a ***** and get it rooted

OI lol,
Just downloaded z4root will put it on my memory card n get root tomorrow me thinks.
p.s z4root is no longer on the market, found the z4root.apk in a thread on here tho luckily lol.

Ok, now I do have a problem. I've flashed the non-branded rom and very happy with it, but my in-call speaker has failed this morning. This seems to be a common problem with the Defy and I suspect it needs replacing or repairing, but I need to put back the branded rom to have the phone in warranty, don't I? How do I even begin to go about that?

tim440 said:
Ok, now I do have a problem. I've flashed the non-branded rom and very happy with it, but my in-call speaker has failed this morning. This seems to be a common problem with the Defy and I suspect it needs replacing or repairing, but I need to put back the branded rom to have the phone in warranty, don't I? How do I even begin to go about that?
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You can't unless you can find the vodafone .sbf sorry mate it was mentioned at the top of the post.
They probably wouldn't know anyway, just deny all knowledge if they say anything.

Related

Motoroi Froyo FULL release available

So, just for fun, I decided to check out motorolas update timetable to see if the full version of froyo was released for the motoroi. it was. bad news is, i cant read korean xD if anyone can read korean, and would be able to download the .zip or .sbf, PLEASE let me know how to, I would be more than happy to try it out as compared to this test version, please help me out guys, im sure more of you would like to use this over the test version for now.
Here is the link to the update table
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
here is the korean site that i do not understand
http://www.mymotorola.co.kr/product/PrdRsdMain.aspx#
thank you in advance
I don't understa.d korean either. Bastards.
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i cant read korean and i dont know why but stupids created the web page with pictures!!! so we cant translate it with google translate either... if anyone can find a way to download it please share with us )
win pc and motoroi xt720 needed for download
hey there for download we need a win pc (i´m on mac) and a motoroi xt720
on first page ( http://www.mymotorola.co.kr/product/PrdRsdMain.aspx# ) click on start download green round button in middle
on popup orange click link "USB §§§$"§§" in new tab scroll to XT720 and press orange USB Button to download usb driver and install. exit tab via X in right down corner.
back in first popup window click the 2nd link (darkgrey box)
in popup check "checkbox lower right and then the "[$§$§]" darker symbols beside the checkbox on the right side to exept end user licence.
again back in first popup click dark Back "$%$$>" symbol lower right
now download the active x thing in middle (orange button) and install
now i´m stuck because of no active x but i think you have to activate the x link on top of page and then connect phone via USB ......????? (see little video on left side)
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i already did all those steps browsers downloads the active x and another page appears and a girl says somethng in korean again
can someone maybe download and upload to a web site for the rest of us
yes can someone get the update for all of us
i try to do the update and it stop at 4% and i don't know that she say :S
i have the UK room on so i will try to pot the Korea room on my phone and try maybe it will work ...............
ok i have pot the Korea room 2.1 and it see my phone and it start to update now i am at 17 % it stop at 18 % and reboot to bootloder
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why dont they just publish the file easily?? making all that stupid steps, its just and update software...
amjad_2020 said:
i try to do the update and it stop at 4% and i don't know that she say :S
i have the UK room on so i will try to pot the Korea room on my phone and try maybe it will work ...............
ok i have pot the Korea room 2.1 and it see my phone and it start to update now i am at 17 % it stop at 18 % and reboot to bootloder
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Where did you get the Korean 2.1 ROM. Could you post a link. Im going to try those steps
The Motoroi link looks like the only live link left here
I think this froyo is same froyo
It looks same version..
default froyo
MOTOROI(XT720)
XT720 .STSKT_N_79.33.50R
This froyo
MOTOROI(XT720)
XT720 .STSKT_N_79.33.50R
It looks like same..
I think this froyo is same froyo....
This froyo version is
MOTOROI(XT720)
XT720 .STSKT_N_79.33.50R
default froyo version is
MOTOROI(XT720)
XT720 .STSKT_N_79.33.50R
.../..
It looks like same froyo...
Hi folks. I need to change my sig. My Korean SGS was destroyed and ended up with a korean Motoroi xt720 for cheap. I am in Korea. I can read a few computer terms and for anything else have easy access to people who can read more.
Anyway, I made it through the upgrade process. However, it didn't give me a rom file, rather it actually flashed the phone from the web page. There's a chance I can find the rom file somewhere on my hard drive.
I had to do it twice. The first time it seemed like it was installing some upgrade manager tool (but I was clicking ok pretty fast). There was a yes or no question that I didn't bother to try to translate any further even if I could. Yes allowed the continue button to pup up.. but then the computer rebooted. I did it again though and the second time after hitting the big orange button.. it rebooted the phone and flashed it.
Let me know if I can help with something, and let me know if you know of any big things to watch out for if I'm taking advice from the U.S/EU threads. Obviously, not using those ROMS is the main one.
By the way, rooting by adb with rageagainst the cage worked fine for me as expected.
update: so I checked the ahrd drive. The file isn't there. With a somewhat similar samsung process I sometimes had to kill the program just before it flashed, then I could find the file. Unfortunately, it won't do it again, because it detects that I'm already upgraded. Of course I can just tar up my /system directory.
appagom said:
Hi folks. I need to change my sig. My Korean SGS was destroyed and ended up with a korean Motoroi xt720 for cheap. I am in Korea. I can read a few computer terms and for anything else have easy access to people who can read more.
Anyway, I made it through the upgrade process. However, it didn't give me a rom file, rather it actually flashed the phone from the web page. There's a chance I can find the rom file somewhere on my hard drive.
I had to do it twice. The first time it seemed like it was installing some upgrade manager tool (but I was clicking ok pretty fast). There was a yes or no question that I didn't bother to try to translate any further even if I could. Yes allowed the continue button to pup up.. but then the computer rebooted. I did it again though and the second time after hitting the big orange button.. it rebooted the phone and flashed it.
Let me know if I can help with something, and let me know if you know of any big things to watch out for if I'm taking advice from the U.S/EU threads. Obviously, not using those ROMS is the main one.
By the way, rooting by adb with rageagainst the cage worked fine for me as expected.
update: so I checked the ahrd drive. The file isn't there. With a somewhat similar samsung process I sometimes had to kill the program just before it flashed, then I could find the file. Unfortunately, it won't do it again, because it detects that I'm already upgraded. Of course I can just tar up my /system directory.
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Can you post your kernel version and configuration strings (S/W version etc)?
model XT720 (but korean one of course)
S/W version STSKT_N_79.33.50R
android version 2.2.1
kernel version 2.6.29-omap1
Did I miss anything?
I am capable of extracting and probably unpacking a kernel image, assuming it doesn't go too differently than for the Samsung. I would want hints on what block device to get it from though.
Another possibility is flashing back to an older rom, and trying to upgrade again, but I'd need to find an older rom. I wrote down my original ROM version somewhere, so I can try to search for it.
I'd actually like to have this too, because it's nice if I mess something up or need A/S, to have a clean ROM to fall back to.
appagom said:
model XT720 (but korean one of course)
S/W version STSKT_N_79.33.50R
android version 2.2.1
kernel version 2.6.29-omap1
Did I miss anything?
I am capable of extracting and probably unpacking a kernel image, assuming it doesn't go too differently than for the Samsung. I would want hints on what block device to get it from though.
Another possibility is flashing back to an older rom, and trying to upgrade again, but I'd need to find an older rom.
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I think that's the same as what we have. You can download the sbf here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881801 Thanks!
Ok thanks!
One thing you could try change your build prop to the motorio but this could be dangerous.
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Focus i917 AT&T USA UCKC3 ROM

Hello,
so you was waiting so long for this? there it is - first ROM for Focus
March 2011 release!!
Enjoy it
Samsung-i917-Focus-firmware-UCKC3-ATT-USA
i did not test it personally, so you take your personal risk
Happy Flashing
is hardspl needed?
has anyone used this? is it working? I am about to do it right now and I will let you know with the results..
Please report back.
carmello1911 said:
has anyone used this? is it working? I am about to do it right now and I will let you know with the results..
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I tried this in my Focus but it doesn't work. I got the following message on the attached screenshot.. any ideas on this? it seems that the installer doesn't recognise my device as a Samsung Focus therefore it doesn't continue with the flashing procedure..
PavelX1 said:
Hello,
so you was waiting so long for this? there it is - first ROM for Focus
March 2011 release!!
Enjoy it
Samsung-i917-Focus-firmware-UCKC3-ATT-USA
i did not test it personally, so you take your personal risk
Happy Flashing
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March 2011 so that means nodo?
carmello1911 said:
I tried this in my Focus but it doesn't work. I got the following message on the attached screenshot.. any ideas on this? it seems that the installer doesn't recognise my device as a Samsung Focus therefore it doesn't continue with the flashing procedure..
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There are two versions of I8700 (Omnia 7) firmwares
one for Retail Devices that are signed by "WP7_PRODUCT" and one for Developer Devices - signed by "WP7_ENGINEER"
For Focus me dont have any "WP7_PRODUCT" signed firmwares, so i am not sure if that one me put online today (signed by "WP7_ENGINEER") are suitable for Retail Phones that AT&T sells.
So its about to check all and get the best from this....its better to have something that nothing (some people will be VERY happy to see even maybe not flashable ROM)...
where did you find this ROM? do you have the other one also?!
He already said he doesn't have the WP7_PRODUCT release.
BTW, thanks, if this is the real thing it will make a lot of people happy!
you are right.. excuse me.. do you think is possible to alter or tweak few things on this one and make it workable to the retail devices as well?
The rom loader appears to be for a different phone. I tried using the demo mode rom loader to load these rom files, as each tmp file corresponded with one of these rom files, but when i replaced the demo rom files with the legitimate rom files it would not move forward with the flash. Perhaps someone will figure it out.
cmmsex1i said:
Thanks but did not work, Its not the Retail Rom wish if u could find one. Thanks again
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How can you say the rom is not retail... the loader surely is not, as it is looking for an SPH-i350 when it should be looking for the focus (SPH-i917)
If I was a little better with ollydbg id already have a solution but I am not very good with disassembly.
the rom is clearly not retail, but it is for this phone, and i would not mind testing it, as i do not use my focus for service right now, just my epic 4g
so probably what we need is someone to change the loader? could be a good idea to post this thread in a less specific forum as maybe someone should be able to do that..
carmello1911 said:
I tried this in my Focus but it doesn't work. I got the following message on the attached screenshot.. any ideas on this? it seems that the installer doesn't recognise my device as a Samsung Focus therefore it doesn't continue with the flashing procedure..
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the same error
M dying to get Samsung Focus ROm
Guys my problem is I have a samsung focus which was unlocked with a code. i was on 7004 and i used Chevron Updater to update it by mistake I chose UK instead of US and now though the Phone has got the NODO update and works well but I can't open few applications like Phone(call), Text, Email etc and those applications are just crashing the moment i click them.
and worst thing is I can't connect it to ZUNE because the initial setup can't be completed (the setup of accepting terms and opening LIVE ID) and the ZUNE says that "PHONE SETUP INCOMPLETE"
Plese let me know if there is any way to connect the phone to zune so that i can update it through zune
first of all please read the rules, secondly, do not double or cross post ( this is the same with most forum), and lastly post in the right thread.
back to the subject, apart from this rom, has there been a non branded rom available, the last time i was gonna buy a i917 from expansys hk, i did remember that the phone boot up without the at&t logo, does this mean the f/w is non branded or simply the logo was just removed.
No there is no Samsung FOcus Rom (Retail) available on net!!!!!!!!!!
I can confirm that this rom does in fact work. Not all devices are recognised (I suspect the update tool looks for a developer device). But on a recognised device that I tested, this worked flawlessly and successfully reflashed the device to 7.0.7390.0
For those that want to force the rom to your phone, you may want to try the command line "UpdateWP" found under Program Files\Zune. Note, I haven't tested this method.
what application did u use to flash the focus as the one with it reports error..
Anyway thanks for hopes
dvorak123 said:
I can confirm that this rom does in fact work. Not all devices are recognised (I suspect the update tool looks for a developer device). But on a recognised device that I tested, this worked flawlessly and successfully reflashed the device to 7.0.7390.0
For those that want to force the rom to your phone, you may want to try the command line "UpdateWP" found under Program Files\Zune. Note, I haven't tested this method.
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Are you saying you used the attachment in the beginning of this thread to flash a samsung focus of yours? And if that is what I am to believe, was this phone to your knowledge a special model, or a model meant to be used as a dev device?

Unlocked MT4G Constant rebooting

I'm completely new to the android experience, this is my first smartphone, ever. I recently purchased an unlocked myTouch 4G and from time to time I would plug my phone into it's charger and it would just cut off and reboot, and stay in this reboot cycle anywhere from 1 - 15mins.
I'm not sure what the issue could be, I don't have a warranty for the phone. I factory reset it using the software since i can't hard reset it from the bootloader. If I try to do that from the bootloader it will just take me through the rebooting cycle again. When I boot into the bootloader it's frozen for about 5 seconds and shows some error about a ZIP file on my SD card not being found (I'm assuming it's looking for an Android image).
This reboot cycle mostly happens when I'm dealing with plugging it in a charger, rarely it will do this when I power off the phone or reboot it from the software (the proper way). Unless I take the battery out, while the phone is off, I never pulled the battery while the phone is running.
What are some options available to me?
Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1244018
and follow the instuctions. It will give you a link to the zip file the bootloader is looking for.
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dead links
Megaupload is dead, I can't use that post. I'm not even sure what the poster is informing people to do, looks like a downgrading. I'm not trying to downgrade, my phone is stock (as far as I know, it's running froyo 2.2.1).
Also I have no clue how to go into adb.
Here is Froyo http://www.4shared.com/zip/xa6viHf-/PD15IMG_221_.html
You won't be downgrading. Just download and flash the file. Its froyo.
jjbadd385 said:
Here is Froyo: 4shared.com/zip/xa6viHf-/PD15IMG_221_.html
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^I'll try this.
Does anyone know a specific reason why this happens to the phone? is it the hardware or software/apps?
Also, is there a valid link to a Gingebread update from HTC/Tmobile? (valid please, megaupload doesn't exist anymore.)
Here is Gingerbread, although you may want to consider rooting and using a flashable Gingerbread Rom, unless you are trying to keep it Stock. http://www.4shared.com/zip/OrXR0864/PD15IMG_234_.html
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Scared
I'm still thinking about whether or not to flash these, I just did an OTA update and thought the issue was fixed until after a few reboots the issue started happening again.
I have questions I would like answered because I don't know what's going on:
Is this a hardware or software issue? Because if it's hardware I think I'll just send the phone back for a refund. If it's software then I'm sure I can just flash a completly different version of android and it'll go away (although not 100% sure)
I snooped around these forums and Google and failed to find a solid answer.
jjbadd385 are these links you're sending me ROMs from tmobile, stock android, or another source??
I don't want to cause any damage to the phone when I could just send it back and buy another, only reason I don't want to send it back just yet is beause if I can find a fix on these forums then id be happy.
Might be hardware just send it back and don't deal with non of this specially if u can still return it u might regret it later when u can no longer get a refund or exchange it for a different one just my .02$
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[Q] Soft brick, haven't found any FXZ for my region. Stuck bad.

First up. I'm low on battery - some 40% on the optimistic side, so I'm going to avoid trying stuff on my own till someone helps.
It's a SOFT- brick, stuck at M logo :/ and looping restarts. All was well till I went ahead and tried 1% battery mod theming (on the stock odexed ROM - though I wiped cache ) :banghead:
The device is an Indian A 2 w/o 4G ?? Never saw the 4G option under network settings. Nor did the box advertise it. Could be wrong here.
Came with 2.3.6 Stock.
I've managed to pull up a link on the 2.3.5 Edison AT&T FXZ files.. but that's simply not the same phone as mine ( I think the radios differ.. could be wrong ) Also since I'm on 2.3.6 , I suppose I'll be required to edit some XML and overwrite some files?
I also have a 30 day replacement warranty with the online store I bought it from , and as seeing that I have NOT replaced the underlying OS as YET ( albeit a stupid 1% battery mod that didn't work out) , would it warrant an exchange ?
Side note : I DON'T have CWM on boot, but DO have a CWM backup of the stock ROM ( made one last night, though I don't see how it can help me now )
QUESTION :
* Is there any way my CWM backup can help if my phone boot loops ?
* Can an AT&T 4G radio goof up my Indian phone that makes no mention of it's HSDPA+ radio ANYWHERE ( other than the 21MBPs ?? ) .. Here's the link to the product page.
* I can always hope for the 30 day replacement warranty to do it's thing, but in my country, Moto service is sub par. Worth it ?
* Should I give moto-fastboot flash system system.img this a shot with the FXZ I'm downloading right now despite the 2.3.5 and 2.3.6 mismatch ?
This is my first android phone and despite reading up a bit on everything, I messed with a stock odexed ROM , so spare the noobness
The first thing you want to do is pull the battery. At your state, the only way to recover is to use (moto)fastboot or flash with RSD Lite.
I am not sure if the radios are the same. After reading the reviews it seems that it does, however I wouldn't take any chances. There are two things you can do:
1) Flash the fxz. By default the fxz will flash a lot of partitions including the radio, so you will have to edit the file "InlineFlashing_edison_5.5.175.16_cfc_p3_APBP_CID285.xml" that is inside of the fxz to just flash the system.img
2) Use (moto)fastboot to flash the system.img. This is much easier so long as you know how. This is the first thing you should try. You can try "(moto)fastboot flash system.img" on its own but you might get an error about unable to write to /system. I recommend that you try these commands:
Code:
fastboot flash mbm allow-mbmloader-flashing-mbm.bin
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot flash mbmloader mbmloader.bin
fastboot flash mbm mbm.bin
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot -w
fastboot flash system system.img
Good luck!
Thanks a lot for the help. I contacted the store and they're giving me two options :
1.Replacement --- Well, it's out of stock, so this is shot.
2.Cash-back/ Credit ---- I could always wait on a new intruging phone. Though I doubt I could find something as cheap and powerful other than the sensation (know what you're thinking).
^ The whole process could take about 2 weeks to get me a new phone. Lame.
If you're absolutely sure about the flashing AT&T's FXZ files, I don't think I'll wait for that refund. Rather like this phone. I hope you've taken into consideration that :
* I'm on 2.3.6 stock odexed.
* I'm NOT from the States. Radios could differ.
* Once I do this and if it doesn't work , there's absolutely NO way that MOTO will take my phone back. Pretty sure the OS will look tampered with. Anyway , there's no service centre in my vicinity.
* If i flash the system image as you mentioned, isn't everything inter-linked in the OS package?? I mean, how can the AT&T modules work with any odd radio?
Thanks again!
Did you already try holding volume up + power when booting, then when you get to a screen with the android and an exclamation point inside a triangle pressing VOL UP + DOWN at same time to factory reset?
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0razor1 said:
Thanks a lot for the help. I contacted the store and they're giving me two options :
1.Replacement --- Well, it's out of stock, so this is shot.
2.Cash-back/ Credit ---- I could always wait on a new intruging phone. Though I doubt I could find something as cheap and powerful other than the sensation (know what you're thinking).
^ The whole process could take about 2 weeks to get me a new phone. Lame.
If you're absolutely sure about the flashing AT&T's FXZ files, I don't think I'll wait for that refund. Rather like this phone. I hope you've taken into consideration that :
* I'm on 2.3.6 stock odexed.
* I'm NOT from the States. Radios could differ.
* Once I do this and if it doesn't work , there's absolutely NO way that MOTO will take my phone back. Pretty sure the OS will look tampered with. Anyway , there's no service centre in my vicinity.
* If i flash the system image as you mentioned, isn't everything inter-linked in the OS package?? I mean, how can the AT&T modules work with any odd radio?
Thanks again!
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Ok I am from India, I was in the same scenario you were in, the FXZ on this forum WILL NOT help, Indian ATRIX 2.
What I did, simply barged in MOTOROLA SERVICE CENTRE (Local to your city) and told them, i was doing a software upgrade (OTA) and the it hung, so I removed the battery and this issue started.
The person in the service center responded Quote: " That is what you should not be doing, when you do OTA update"
He then re flashed the whole phone to stock 2.3.6, as they would be having Indian FXZ and gave back my phone in 30 min.
I am now on Victory ROM and still enjoying flash MOD and ROMS, the lesson I learned is, do not flash any MOD unless it is working and confirmed from others ( provided you do it right way)
So go to service center, and your issue will be solved.
kisnerct said:
Did you already try holding volume up + power when booting, then when you get to a screen with the android and an exclamation point inside a triangle pressing VOL UP + DOWN at same time to factory reset?
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Did that. Since I've flashed a battery update.zip to the ROM I don't see how it could have helped me ...
zeph_syk said:
Ok I am from India, I was in the same scenario you were in, the FXZ on this forum WILL NOT help, Indian ATRIX 2.
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..........He then re flashed the whole phone to stock 2.3.6, as they would be having Indian FXZ and gave back my phone in 30 min.
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..........I am now on Victory ROM and still enjoying flash MOD and ROMS, the lesson I learned is, do not flash any MOD unless it is working and confirmed from others ( provided you do it right way)
So go to service center, and your issue will be solved.
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Well, I always knew I could do that. Have been messing around with moto and RSD from the L6/L7 days
There's no service center close to my place. That's the only problem. I wish there was one.
Questions :
* anyway they would give me the FXZ files ?? I could beg :/ If anything , I'd be doing a LOT of people favors
* You're using CWM on boot ? is it ? Cause I didn't and I suppose that was simply asking for it . Also, ROM manager flshes recovery for a LOT of Moto phones.. Could I get by, by using the Atrix 4G recovery or something similar. Whats the worst that could happen ? Soft brick or hard ?
0razor1 said:
First up. I'm low on battery - some 40% on the optimistic side, so I'm going to avoid trying stuff on my own till someone helps.
It's a SOFT- brick, stuck at M logo :/ and looping restarts. All was well till I went ahead and tried 1% battery mod theming (on the stock odexed ROM - though I wiped cache ) :banghead:
The device is an Indian A 2 w/o 4G ?? Never saw the 4G option under network settings. Nor did the box advertise it. Could be wrong here.
Came with 2.3.6 Stock.
I've managed to pull up a link on the 2.3.5 Edison AT&T FXZ files.. but that's simply not the same phone as mine ( I think the radios differ.. could be wrong ) Also since I'm on 2.3.6 , I suppose I'll be required to edit some XML and overwrite some files?
I also have a 30 day replacement warranty with the online store I bought it from , and as seeing that I have NOT replaced the underlying OS as YET ( albeit a stupid 1% battery mod that didn't work out) , would it warrant an exchange ?
Side note : I DON'T have CWM on boot, but DO have a CWM backup of the stock ROM ( made one last night, though I don't see how it can help me now )
QUESTION :
* Is there any way my CWM backup can help if my phone boot loops ?
* Can an AT&T 4G radio goof up my Indian phone that makes no mention of it's HSDPA+ radio ANYWHERE ( other than the 21MBPs ?? ) .. Here's the link to the product page.
* I can always hope for the 30 day replacement warranty to do it's thing, but in my country, Moto service is sub par. Worth it ?
* Should I give moto-fastboot flash system system.img this a shot with the FXZ I'm downloading right now despite the 2.3.5 and 2.3.6 mismatch ?
This is my first android phone and despite reading up a bit on everything, I messed with a stock odexed ROM , so spare the noobness
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Dont worry, I am an Indian user, been in this situation. All I did was, took a chance. I flashed 2.3.5 Stock AT&T FXZ to my Indian Atrix 2 using the script given here on XDA and it came to life within few minutes. Hardware on Indian Atrix 2 and US device are exactly the same.
Just install AT&T FXZ, root it using 2.3.5 one click, then install bootstrap recovery and restore your previous backup and you will have exact working phone back in your hands, I did exactly the same and mine is up and running, no radio issues or anything at all.
The only stupid thing I did was, I took backup of Indian ROM after deleting some system files, which makes my phone's messaging app force close everytime I receive a message. Once you get yours up and running, would you be kind enough to upload your clean CWM Backup (or take a new one, after you fix it, if previous one has your personal stuff) and upload it to dropbox or some file sharing site?? It can help me fix my messaging issue too. And since Indian firmware is not restrictive like AT&T rom I beleive some Devs here can use it to make a fantastic overclocked rom, been looking for that since day one, all custom ones are AT&T based, so restrcitive.
Good luck....
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The one I used was from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539167
Its a script, you just need to connect your phone in fastboot mode (Vol Up+Vol Down pressed together and power on, select Fastboot from 4 options), and then click on bat file (Its name is something like return to stock.bat or something, dont remember exactly now). Then just wait for few around 8-10 minutes and it will do everything automatically and you will have your phone working in no time
Thanks for that info , but ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23469067&postcount=5
As you can see , well, the problem is flashing these files to a 2.3.6 device. :/
Anyway the store has offered a refund so I'm hopping on the bandwagon and biding out my time .
Here's what I plan to do :
See if I can somehow score a ONE S at a reasonable price else I'm just going to buy this phone again a month from now, at a more respectable street price. I'm judging ~ 21K and no more for this phone a month from now with the S advance et all releasing soon enough. 22.5K is simply too steep with ONLY ONE service center in my state :/ WTH :/
IN USD speak , that's ~ 400$ unlocked compared to the ~ 450 I bought one for a week back. I know that's cheap , but we pay in whole, no contracts for us, so the pinch is bad
This is what the service center rep had to say to me :
ASK MOTO FOR THE FXZ FILES :/ ( why they don't already have the boot files on an 8 month old phone is beyond me )
And MOTO customer support asked me to hard reset .. as if I didn't already try. They're asking me to goto the service center that hasn't and FXZ files :/
And the next cloese center is about ~ 80 Miles away and their registered phones are out of service :/ The next closest service center is about ~ 200 Miles away and I'm done hoping that they'd fare any better
Side : I plan to upload my CWM files ANYWAY after of course I change my Google account credentials But you'll have to wait a month for them as I'm far off from a connection that can upload ~ 900MB reliably. Plan to stick around this sub forum regardless of whether I buy the same phone or not as one of my friends has one and I'm the go-to techie around here :/
For all you out there, these CWM files are based around the MB not ME version of the files so it SHOULD* work on AT&T phones without all the AT&T crapware and should require NO hacks / tweaks to work the hotspot and other features
0razor1 said:
Did that. Since I've flashed a battery update.zip to the ROM I don't see how it could have helped me ...
Well, I always knew I could do that. Have been messing around with moto and RSD from the L6/L7 days
There's no service center close to my place. That's the only problem. I wish there was one.
Questions :
* anyway they would give me the FXZ files ?? I could beg :/ If anything , I'd be doing a LOT of people favors
* You're using CWM on boot ? is it ? Cause I didn't and I suppose that was simply asking for it . Also, ROM manager flshes recovery for a LOT of Moto phones.. Could I get by, by using the Atrix 4G recovery or something similar. Whats the worst that could happen ? Soft brick or hard ?
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The service center do not have FXZ stored in there system, AFAIK they connect the phone to an application, this APP contacts the motorola server and recognize the build of this phone and then downloads the relative FXZ and flashes it! This is all done by the APP
I am really not sure if we can use the Atrix 4g recovery, but its unlikely we can do that.
Now i do have a copy of stock 2.3.6, but we cannot use the hotspot App and other system apps directly as they are not deodexed. Correct me if I am wrong please
Well , those guys simply said NO !! And they asked ME TO get MOTO to send them the FXZs .. as if .. :/
Do you mean to say that the app downloads a 500 MB compressed file EVERYTIME one flashes a phone ?? Very unproductive. :/
I just hope MOTO knows what they're doing dishing out service contracts to people who apparently don't know how things are meant to be.
Anyway ,I've recieved the refund email from flipkart and this phone's going back. Lets hope I pick up a better phone in a month , else its back to another A 2. Great phone, sub-standard service is all that's pulling it down.
And with the imminent launch of an S4 proccy in the rumored Atrix2 w/ a 720p screen, I think the future holds a lot more to offer than the A2's OMAP -- heck , I have problems decoding HP h264 vids --- B frames anyone ? I believe even the lowly adreno 220 and the Mali-400 can handle them with ease.
Furthermore, correct me if I'm wrong ,the A's processor claims to be dual channel capable, but with one channel available to each core, is that really what we're looking at ?
0razor1 said:
Well , those guys simply said NO !! And they asked ME TO get MOTO to send them the FXZs .. as if .. :/
Do you mean to say that the app downloads a 500 MB compressed file EVERYTIME one flashes a phone ?? Very unproductive. :/
I just hope MOTO knows what they're doing dishing out service contracts to people who apparently don't know how things are meant to be.
Anyway ,I've recieved the refund email from flipkart and this phone's going back. Lets hope I pick up a better phone in a month , else its back to another A 2. Great phone, sub-standard service is all that's pulling it down.
And with the imminent launch of an S4 proccy in the rumored Atrix2 w/ a 720p screen, I think the future holds a lot more to offer than the A2's OMAP -- heck , I have problems decoding HP h264 vids --- B frames anyone ? I believe even the lowly adreno 220 and the Mali-400 can handle them with ease.
Furthermore, correct me if I'm wrong ,the A's processor claims to be dual channel capable, but with one channel available to each core, is that really what we're looking at ?
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You should complain about that service center. I flashed files as stated above and it worked.
I have been waiting someone to upload backup of Indian firmware but I am kind of fed up waiting for it to happen, so just now I went to service center and the guys there told me that they don't have stock firmware for it BUT then he spoke to someone in Chennai and I am told that they are going to receive stock firmware in an hour or two and he will flash it and let me know by 4pm today, so basically they do have stock FXZ, not every center may have it ready but its with them.
So I have left my phone there till evening, he said he will flash the stock firmware and if it doesn't work they will process a replacement for me and I will get a new phone. Simple as that. Motorola service centers are managed by Redington, if they are refusing to honour your service request you should complain to Moto as well as Redington. We need to let them know that they cant take us for granted after selling a phone.
And since you are going to get a refund anyway, why not try and flash the files I recommend? You have already bricked your phone, so even if it doesn't work you are still going to get a new phone. N I am sure when it works you will change your mind This is a fantastic phone as per my opinion. I would anyday stick with it.
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And all people who may need Indian Stock firmware stay tuned here, as soon as I get my phone back I am going to take a CWM Backup and upload it here, since I have 3G my upload speeds are not that good, so it will take at-least 2 days after I receive my phone, so that I can upload it here but I am definitely going to do it. AT&T users will benefit a lot from this. Just waiting desperately to get my phone back.
Sorry folks, Moto service is really bad. The guys at service center initially told me they will receive FXZ to flash, but seems like they didn't, they are processing my request for a replacement shame Moto, your service centers doesn't even have firmware to flash.. I am gonna complain to Moto as well as Radington. Its such a simple task for which they are giving me a replacement, if I have FXZ I can do it myself.
finally ordered a razr for 26.4k, a steal if u ask me. lets hope it pans out better than the A2..

Is the LG Aristo Android System Update worth installing?

Hi, I just started using my friend's LG Aristo on MetroPCS. I just got an Android System Update pop up tonight that shows a 450.1 MB update available, but doesn't show the name of the update. The only thing it says about the update is, " This release includes updates that make your phone more secure and improves messaging.". Does anyone know what kind of update this is and if it will restrict any features? I'm using PDANet app for tethering. My friend had this phone for about two months, I don't know if he got this notification before to update it and he just didn't update it or if it's a brand new update. I got the Factory Reset Protection(FRP) lock sent to my old phone after I used PDANet to open the hotspot, that I thought was included in my plan, but I found out that it is not. So, I am very cautious about updates and anything else that Metro wants to send my way.
EpicSaga said:
Hi, I just started using my friend's LG Aristo on MetroPCS. I just got an Android System Update pop up tonight that shows a 450.1 MB update available, but doesn't show the name of the update. The only thing it says about the update is, " This release includes updates that make your phone more secure and improves messaging.". Does anyone know what kind of update this is and if it will restrict any features? I'm using PDANet app for tethering. My friend had this phone for about two months, I don't know if he got this notification before to update it and he just didn't update it or if it's a brand new update. I got the Factory Reset Protection(FRP) lock sent to my old phone after I used PDANet to open the hotspot, that I thought was included in my plan, but I found out that it is not. So, I am very cautious about updates and anything else that Metro wants to send my way.
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Nobody I know of has accepted the update. I was gonna do a clean start so I could try the update out, but free time has been hella scarce. Since it's a LG update for metro, we can automatically surmise it won't interfere with unlocking the bootloader or enabling root access. (They wouldn't pull something like that after the LG motion)
Tether is included in every plan that involves more than 2 gigs of high speed data. You get a hard limit for how much high speed data is used for tether though.
Hiyo was wondering if you knew the best route to reflash stock? im wanting to so i can give this phone to my aunt as she uses a lg risio.
Ps: sorry for jumpin in on your thread i just didnt believe i should muck up the rest of the forum.
teknoweanie said:
Hiyo was wondering if you knew the best route to reflash stock? im wanting to so i can give this phone to my aunt as she uses a lg risio.
Ps: sorry for jumpin in on your thread i just didnt believe i should muck up the rest of the forum.
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Do you have a computer at home?
i did the useual for me ..the "throw my brains in a blender and go for what i read was ultimately stupid"
and tried the update...and ended up in a TWRP bootloop....
went back n forth flashing Lineage TWRP and my stock bla TWRP somthing like 4 times...
finally when things decided to boot
after the last time flash i tried the lineage TWRP....i marveled at how fast it booted....
then booted TWRP to flash my huge boring stock backup...
and junks back to the old funk...just from 9/28 when i first was going to try Lineage...
should've used it as an excuse to try out the debloated rom....
can anyone tell me how to turn off Updater in terminal ....
moving files and renaming things always gets me running in these same exact circles..
is it safe to remove Updater???
sorry if i type like i think..i'm trying to be unique ...my logic is just really fuzzy
i only apologize because someone that was have a bad day decided it was the best thing to zero in on in an android forum and get bossy about it...sorry..i think too much ..most of it's useless...OK..i post this now
Yep i have a computer. Read about two different applications to flash the stock kdz. One called lg up an the other lg flash tool. The only thing is im not sure about is which app is best to use or does it matter?
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i did a search for "flash stock rom lg aristo" the top two guides lead me to the applications. Just saying where i found it in case anyone was wondering. *haven't tried yet
teknoweanie said:
Yep i have a computer. Read about two different applications to flash the stock kdz. One called lg up an the other lg flash tool. The only thing is im not sure about is which app is best to use or does it matter?
Edit:
i did a search for "flash stock rom lg aristo" the top two guides lead me to the applications. Just saying where i found it in case anyone was wondering. *haven't tried yet
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Either one does the job really. LG up is built for newer devices, so you'd be better off
Did anyone download the 450.1 MB update yet?
EpicSaga said:
Did anyone download the 450.1 MB update yet?
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It's a security update and the kernel was clock locked to 1248mhz and lower. It shouldn't clock any higher than 1248.

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