we all know htc sense. slow, clunky, sense. everyone wants the best out of their phone, but there is something that is just so appealing about sense that stops our fingers over those barebone scripts. that thing is..... the widgets!!
htc's widgets are the simplest, best, and most innovative. they are the only thing keeping me (and a bunch of other people) from switching to non-sense roms or at least running a barebone script. i love my simple, nice, smooth sense widgets. my question is, what locks widgets to a specific launcher? how easy or difficult would it be to break this tie? why has no dev tried this before (or has one?)? anybody with answers please comment.
asking widget devs might be the first place to start. anybody have any other ideas?
thanks for helping out...
dk
I believe the reason why nobody has done it is because of copyrights, HTC made beautiful widget take their widget down from the market because it was there flip clock (same thing with fancy widget ) and I believe that's why they don't mess with it just like you can't find swype apk in the forums, so I double a developer would do that to get in trouble , roms and rooting are ptacticly legal so not problem there
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i never thought of it that way. how is rooting and roms legal but a simple porting of widgets not? it would still be on the evo, for which it was intended right? if a non-sense dev put a few widgets into his rom, i would use it for sure. still sense right? either way, do you have any idea on what the process might be?
dkdude36 said:
i never thought of it that way. how is rooting and roms legal but a simple porting of widgets not? it would still be on the evo, for which it was intended right? if a non-sense dev put a few widgets into his rom, i would use it for sure. still sense right? either way, do you have any idea on what the process might be?
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Mm yeah is copyrights just look at this article about HTC and beautifull Widgets to take there app down
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...-infringement-for-video-of-beautiful-widgets/
And is the same as asking a developer to make the Widgets work a non sense launcher
And roms if different there legal, you buy the device you have the right to do wtv you want I can't find the article but they are
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ok. what about personally doing it? if you dont share it (publicly or privately) wouldnt it be ok? baisically i'm asking can it be done?
It can be done. Ethics and legality come into play. I beleve it is called reverse engeneering or reengineering, which is not techniccly illegal, but htc removes the right to reverse engineer/reengineer. Its in the copywright.
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Thanks for the info. I will do a google search later. With legality, i don't plan on sharing it, so copyrights won't be a problem. With ethnics, i just want to get the most out of my phone. I cant find a task or notes widget anywhere close to the htc one. If htc has a problem, or even a way to find out, if I am using stock widgets on a different launcher, i will delete them. Thanks for all your help.
I googled and can't find anything helpful anyways so I guess I will just stick with clunky old sense.
Check out LauncherPro Plus. Fede, the developer, has added a number of Sense-like widgets to the Plus version and has promised to add more. So far he has released a Facebook widget, Twitter, a Friendstream-like widget, Bookmarks, MMS, and Contacts.
No RSS widget or email yet but I am crossing my fingers.
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Any thoughts on this?
I love the UI for Peep and feel like it deserves to be graced onto the Nexus One.
+1 i loved this, maybe it will be in the ported desire rom!
It is. I just flashed the alpha Desire ROM shortly after posting this, and after using Peep for a bit, I don't like it too much! Just the widget is aesthetically pleasing haha
For the 100th time... u cannot use htc widgets on the n1. they use different frameworks thus the lack of compatibility.
Not just the widget, either, this app, peep, depends on HTC's framework, which is proprietary, and therefore can't be ported to work on a non-HTC ROM. If you want peep, you have to use a full HTC-Sense ROM, like Desire. Same thing with the widgets, the mail client, the music player (mostly--there has been some success getting it to port from Hero to Dream/Magic, way back in the day), or anything else that depends on HTC. In short, if it looks like Sense, you need a HTC ROM to use it.
its funny how the same question gets asked over and over and over again.
Use the search button.
I want to know how I can install a few apps that are from the HTC DESIRE to our nexus.
I have the APK's but when I use root explorer or astro I get a DID NOT INSTALL.
I want to install:
- HTCMUSIC (SWEET PLAYER!)
- HTCNAVIPANEL
- HTCSTREAMPLAYER
And a few others.
I tried adding them to the nexus app update zip that installs fine after I install a bare rom. But it will not work that way.
Any suggestions? I REALLY want these apps on my nexus!
get the Paul's (Modaco) Desire ROM for the Nexus... as far as I know, only a few apps work without the Rosie (HTC Sense) framework
Search Feature, does wonders...
You can't just drop Sense UI APK's into a stock ROM and expect it to work, the Sense Framework is not there and there is really no point in porting it because of the work involved.
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Search Feature, does wonders...
You can't just drop Sense UI APK's into a stock ROM and expect it to work, the Sense Framework is not there and there is really no point in porting it because of the work involved.
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No DUH search helps and I DID search just so I don't have to read comments like yours to do a search. What am I suppose to search for that will give me the answer you just did? No need to answer. Most people are not so "informed" as you or have the knowledge to kow what to search for. So why not just relax and take a humble pill and help out nicely!
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No DUH search helps and I DID search just so I don't have to read comments like yours to do a search. What am I suppose to search for that will give me the answer you just did? No need to answer. Most people are not so "informed" as you or have the knowledge to kow what to search for. So why not just relax and take a humble pill and help out nicely!
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DUH, if you searched you would not that. You need to learn how to search better. Best bet is to just use one of the roms that are already HTC Roms.
It's not hard to learn how to search for what you really want to look for. If you think it's hard then maybe you should've bought an iphone.
craigacgomez said:
get the Paul's (Modaco) Desire ROM for the Nexus... as far as I know, only a few apps work without the Rosie (HTC Sense) framework
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I had the desire rom but it has issues. I make calls and after the call the phone locks up and wont turn the screen on. Sometimes I'm in the email app and it closes on its own. But the htcmusic and is nice so I just wanted to install a few of the desire apps. I did get the desire keyboard working so that was nice.
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No DUH search helps and I DID search just so I don't have to read comments like yours to do a search. What am I suppose to search for that will give me the answer you just did? No need to answer. Most people are not so "informed" as you or have the knowledge to kow what to search for. So why not just relax and take a humble pill and help out nicely!
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Not to sound flamish but if you did search you would of seen several threads asking for the same thing, (How can I port the music app/weather/etc, and given the same answers. Most of the HTC apps require the Sense framework. It would be a ton of work to port the framework over to a non-Sense rom. One could say it would be........nonsense to try <insert dr evil laugh>. If you dont like the launcher or widgets, what you can do is install the Sense rom and then change the Rosie Launcher to the stock one and also switch out the apps you are having problems with. For the most part non-Scense apps will run on Sense but not vice versa.
@JasjarMan, just to make things clear... Sense UI is an OEM extension to the Android framework by HTC. It has several components not available in the stock Android framework. Sense UI framework is proprietary and porting the framework would be very difficult (but not impossible) considering it's not open source.
As @MonkySlap said, most of the stock Android applications and components would work on the HTC Desire ROM port considering the fact that beneath the HTC framework lies the stock Android framework.
And yes, there are tonnes of threads where this question has been answered before.
That said, there is a port of the old HTC music application (not the Desire 2.1 application) which works on non-Sense ROMs... something a little search would retrieve... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651889&highlight=HTC+music+app
I'm putting this out there, cuz I'm pretty sure everyone wants some sense widgets. I know JsChiSurf is like.... RIDICULOUSLY good at hacking things up and getting them working...so...if he, or anyone else wants to take a shot. I'd love to have the htc sense message widget (and even bookmarks widget) working on Non-Sense launchers. Is there anyway someone can
a) Create one from scratch that looks/acts just like the sense ones?
or
b) hack up the htc ones to work with launchers like...launcher pro, or helix, awd, etc.
I'd be willing to donate good money if someone could get this working....and I'm sure others would as well.
Post a reply if you'd be willing to donate...maybe then we'd generate more interest for devs to work on it.
The dev for launcher pro is working on recreating all of the sense widgets. I know its $2.99 for the plus version which allows you to get the extra widgets. Right now he has people widget, calander widget, and bookmark widget along with some new features.. Check it out here > http://www.launcherpro.com/?cat=3
+1 for LauncherPro Plus
In case you also want the number counts on the dailer/messages/gmail icons like Sense does, there is an app called SMS Unread Count.
http://android.kanokgems.com/sms-unread-count
Contrary to its name, you can make a widget for SMS, Gmail, and the Dialer. And bonus for you, for each widget you add you can choose the icon you want:
-"classic" aka 1.5 vanilla
-"eclair" aka 2.1 vanilla
-"hero" aka Sense
Thanks guys! That's great info. I'll download lunch plus pro right now...I was looking around his website a few days ago because I heard someone say he could get sense widgets working (on this forum), but when I went to his site's forum, I saw that his most recent post said "sorry guys....there is no way to get sense widgets working". Hopefully his will be just as good.
Thanks again for the info!
-alex
alexthearmo said:
Thanks guys! That's great info. I'll download lunch plus pro right now...I was looking around his website a few days ago because I heard someone say he could get sense widgets working (on this forum), but when I went to his site's forum, I saw that his most recent post said "sorry guys....there is no way to get sense widgets working". Hopefully his will be just as good.
Thanks again for the info!
-alex
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Hey Alex, the new version of Launcher Pro Plus now has a messaging widget. Just like you asked for.
gomorrah said:
Hey Alex, the new version of Launcher Pro Plus now has a messaging widget. Just like you asked for.
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Hey Gomorrah! Long time no talk. I just downloaded it, and it's pretty slick! I still like the way the sense one looks a little better...but this will definitely do!
Our phones are getting slicker by the day! By the way...the "Post Your Screen Shot's" thread, should be called "Gomorrah's Phone Will Always Look 10 Times Cooler Than Yours" thread!
Good work man!
A scrollable rss news widget which aggregates all feeds into a single stream, like the one included with sense would be amazing. Thats the only thing I miss since leaving sense.
I know alot of people have been asking about this, so is there a definite answer? Is there a rom that will allow sense Weather Wigdet (home) to go in landscape mode? I would also like to know if there is word on an upcoming Desire Z rom which will allow that. No, I dont have time to check every thread in this GIGANTIC forum and I'm just asking a simple question. Please share the info and post. Thanks!
While I don't know much about sense, couldn't you simply drop the HTC Launcher homescreen app in the apps folder and delete your current one? I mean you already have all the HTC Sense trimmings so everything else should be there
First, I must preface this by apologizing about this post not being in a more relevant forum topic. I am barred from posting in the dev section until I reach 8 posts. I also have checked relevant links and tried searching about this, but if I failed at my searches, again I apologize.
So I flashed the Revolution 4g rom and really like it. The only thing I would like to change about it is the launcher/ADW (not sure what to call the bar with the phone button and such) to that of the no-sense rom. However, I would like to keep all the HTC sense widgets and apps. Is there a way to replace that feature using the rom cleaner found on that post? Is there a different solution to this problem?
Have you tried Launcher Pro? DL/install it and see if it does what you're wanting. If it doesn't, no harm no foul, just uninstall.
Tx
I just did, and it doesn't accomplish what I would like it to do. I'm looking for something that will replace the default launcher on the HTC home. This gives me an option and after choosing the launcherpro, I'm left without the widget from the HTC sense. Thank you for the suggestion and quick reply, though.
lobanza said:
I just did, and it doesn't accomplish what I would like it to do. I'm looking for something that will replace the default launcher on the HTC home. This gives me an option and after choosing the launcherpro, I'm left without the widget from the HTC sense. Thank you for the suggestion and quick reply, though.
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You mean they're gone, or they weren't where they were with the old launcher? You'll have to re-setup all your screens with the new launcher, but I thin sense widgets should still work.
What I meant was the HTC widgets aren't gone, I just can't choose them with launcherpro and I can't afford to pay for the plus version to unlock the launcherpro widgets.
lobanza said:
What I meant was the HTC widgets aren't gone, I just can't choose them with launcherpro and I can't afford to pay for the plus version to unlock the launcherpro widgets.
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Its like 2.99.....
a homeless person could afford that...
go sit at a stop sign with a coffee can for 30 mins and you will get $3....