Firstly for those thinking, "just get DarchDroid! It's already AOSP," I would first like to explore this option. I like Sense UI, just hate the lag associated with certain Sense apps and would at least like to try the AOSP versions before completely switching to a new ROM.
I did some searching, but couldn't find any sure apk's that will work on a CDMA Hero. The closest I found was some working for the EVO 4G (here), but I don't want to risk it not working on the Hero.
Is it possible for someone to pull some apk's from DarchDroid ROM and have them work on Sense-based ROMs?
Suppose there are working apk's, will they replace or coexist with the HTC apps?
Thanks in advance, and I apologize if this was already done.
Edit: found some apk's!
Edit 2: apparently I suck at searching; there was another thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667715#7 but at least my thread has the DeskClock.apk
I feel your pain, or at least I did. I liked sense but hated all the lag such as the lag when scrolling threw contacts and SMS. All those little small areas where it would lag drove me crazy. I tried installing the apks from darchdroid but it didn't work so I searched it up. Got the same results as you. I had no choice but to go with darchdroid but I am more than satisfied now. Throw launcherpro on it and you wont regret it. AOSP is like a simplified less flashy version and I love it. I hope some one has a real answer for you though because I'm curious myself. Good luck.
Oh. If you do end up trying darchdroid, try out gomorrah's blackmod theme for it. It's sick.
Well, I managed to find the AOSP messaging app when I wasn't even looking for it! Go figure. It was in a thread talking about keyboard lag. Some claim that for texting, using AOSP messaging app has much less keyboard lag than the HTC messaging app. For those curious, it's here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6309233&postcount=6
Oh and it looks like it replaces the HTC messaging app; they cannot coexist.
Edit: It also occurred to me that flipz included the AOSP alarm as part of his AOSP lock screen fix!
Much less lag. The messaging app is the only one that worked when I tried replacing them though. The phone and contacts apps were giving problems. I didn't know what to do so I just went with darchdroid. If you like sense, maybe there is a way to add it to an AOSP ROM. Maybe you can just try installing the HTC Sense launcher apk on darch's ROM.
OK, I've searched for days to try and find a fast, stable, sense-ui (Theme-wise) ROM that works on the HTC Hero. I've found tons of ROMS for the G1, I've tried the CyangenMod 6 ROM, I've spent hours searching for a good ROM. CM6 is a bit faster, but occasionally it will hang. (A bit better than stock 2.1) I don't like that a lot of apps don't work (After downloading an app and installing it, you can't click open or find it in your apps list) and I don't like that the fact that you can't group your contacts or have the Sprint/HTC widgets work. (The only widgets I use are the clock and the email, messages, and voice mail widgets that show how many you received.
Please let me know if you use one like that you can recommend.
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OK, I've searched for days to try and find a fast, stable, sense-ui (Theme-wise) ROM that works on the HTC Hero. I've found tons of ROMS for the G1, I've tried the CyangenMod 6 ROM, I've spent hours searching for a good ROM. CM6 is a bit faster, but occasionally it will hang. (A bit better than stock 2.1) I don't like that a lot of apps don't work (After downloading an app and installing it, you can't click open or find it in your apps list) and I don't like that the fact that you can't group your contacts or have the Sprint/HTC widgets work. (The only widgets I use are the clock and the email, messages, and voice mail widgets that show how many you received.
Please let me know if you use one like that you can recommend.
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For a good sense UI rom I would go with Zen rom. You can find it here.
I've been using this rom NFX-Hero 2.2.1 by nfinitefx45. After playing with other roms and the cyanogen ones, i've come back to this one. I've been running this for a couple weeks and it's pretty smooth and stable. So give it a try. Also, nfinitefx45 is one dedicated developer, he actually visits the thread often and help with answering questions, solving problems/bugs!
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I've been using this rom NFX-Hero 2.2.1 by nfinitefx45. After playing with other roms and the cyanogen ones, i've come back to this one. I've been running this for a couple weeks and it's pretty smooth and stable. So give it a try. Also, nfinitefx45 is one dedicated developer, he actually visits the thread often and help with answering questions, solving problems/bugs!
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+1 nfinite's roms are put together well and are fast yet also solid.
I'm using the cyanogen rom. CM6. It's actually running android 2.2 (froyo) instead of 2.1, and I think it has a better keyboard and runs very well. I use the "digital clock widget", and the weather and "news and weather" widget, I think both are available in the Market, but News and weather came with the rom. I miss the bookmarks and calendar widgets from Sense, but its not worth going back. As far as voicmail goes I'm using google voice to handle my it, and there are widgets for it too.
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I'm using the cyanogen rom. CM6. It's actually running android 2.2 (froyo) instead of 2.1, and I think it has a better keyboard and runs very well. I use the "digital clock widget", and the weather and "news and weather" widget, I think both are available in the Market, but News and weather came with the rom. I miss the bookmarks and calendar widgets from Sense, but its not worth going back. As far as voicmail goes I'm using google voice to handle my it, and there are widgets for it too.
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I use CM6 as well, and prefer it over any sense rom but the OP wanted sense so I thought I'd humor myself
The CM6 with CyanogenSense theme looks and feels like my stock Hero, but runs way faster and has a better battery life. Zen makes a great rom, bit imo the CM6 is the way to go.
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I've decided to try making a theme using the tutorial thread number 667951. (I can't post links yet I don't think, so again I'll just use this work around.) That being said, I've decided to stick with NFX-HERO for my ROM since the only thing wrong with it is the boot loop issue which I'm going to try starting from scratch to fix it today. So, the tutorial says that a good starting point for a theme would be to get an existing compatible theme and modify that one. (Great idea in my opinion. I've done this in the past with other phones I had.) Does anyone have an idea of a theme that would be useful for me to start off with? I want to change a lot of things on the phone, so the more intricate the theme is, probably the better.
Also, on a side note, if I remember correctly this thread had 3 pages before the site went down. I'm not sure why it was truncated. If any mods know why, please let me know.
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I've decided to try making a theme using the tutorial thread number 667951. (I can't post links yet I don't think, so again I'll just use this work around.) That being said, I've decided to stick with NFX-HERO for my ROM since the only thing wrong with it is the boot loop issue which I'm going to try starting from scratch to fix it today. So, the tutorial says that a good starting point for a theme would be to get an existing compatible theme and modify that one. (Great idea in my opinion. I've done this in the past with other phones I had.) Does anyone have an idea of a theme that would be useful for me to start off with? I want to change a lot of things on the phone, so the more intricate the theme is, probably the better.
Also, on a side note, if I remember correctly this thread had 3 pages before the site went down. I'm not sure why it was truncated. If any mods know why, please let me know.
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We lost about 2 days posts when the site crashed
i used a theme called blue echo to learn where most things go. and in his rom there is a great vending apk that has the market themed as well. then i took a dialer from one of godzen's and moved it all to compare to my stock 2.1 files and made it work with a rom i am currently running. im just now getting into looking at the apps like clock etc but that was a good start for me since there is alot covered there.
OK, let me ask you this. It'll clear up some things I need to know on compatibility. What makes a theme compatible with one ROM and not another? Likewise, what makes an app compatible with one ROM and not another? Is it the structure? If so, how? I'm a computer programmer, but even though android phones are quite similar to a Linux system on a PC, I'm still not sure if I understand the compatibility issues behind themes.
Also, just so I don't have to post again to ask this in case it's relevant, are Blue Echo and GodZen's dialer compatible with NFX? I downloaded them, but it never said anything about NFX. Is NFX similar to Sprint's 2.1 in the sense that it will run any themes I make for NFX?
well the Rom im using is mostly stock so the framework and htc.resource files are the same. for say CM6 (and i havent looked into it just a example) may have say the status bar grey and i want black. in the stock i would change the statusbar_bkg file in the framework.apk folder but in CM6 it may be in the same plae with a different name or the same name in a different place or just non existent all together. as for if they are compatible the only way to know is to try. the only way to know for sure is to open them compare and replace what you need in the correct order. also i use metamorph to apply themes. you can find it in the market. but the Vending.apk theme must be pushed with adb for some reason or it will crash the market.
matter of fact now that i think of it, the Rom im using is about to incorporate NFX. go here and you an see my post where i put what i transfereed over and they should work as i think NFX is mostly a stock (so to speak) Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731404&page=41
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I've found tons of ROMS for the G1,
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You are using a Hero, right? Not a G1? That would explain the boot loop issue you had with NFX.
NFX-HERO was listed in the Hero ROMs section. You sure it's only for G1? Would another phone's ROM actually even flash to a different phone properly? I mean it works, but with boot loops.
Yes they will but may it may not work. And I'm sure that Rom is for a hero and I would flash over and look for myself but I have been threw like 5 Rom's today and just got it back normal lol.
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OK, so today I had a chance to wipe and flash the NFX-HERO ROM again. Now the phone seems a bit more stable. I can boot it and it boots all the way up fine and I can click "Shutdown Phone" and have it shutdown without freezing and rebooting, but now right now I've spotted only one flaw. When I use the phone in disk drive mode, but then pull the USB out of the phone without switching it back to charge only, and it freezes and reboots on me. (This happened last time.) I've also noticed that the phone gets increasingly more unstable as time goes on, so I wouldn't doubt that it would do this even more later on.
Correction, no matter what I do, to remove the USB when I use it as a disk drive, the phone freezes and reboots.
Update again: I decided to use RegawMod instead. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661991) It's super fast, no bugs from what I can see, highly compatible, and it looks slick! I even used a mod to turn my dialer pink. lol I can see this being my ROM of choice for a long time. The only thing I didn't like was that it was lacking the Google Navigation tools, so I installed GoogleApps.apk (If you're looking for this file, just Google GoogleApps.apk) from another ROM and rebooted me phone (So it would show up) and then it worked just fine. I'm not sure why it isn't showing local listings for destinations first, but that may be just because it didn't catch the GPS location right off the bat. I did set my location settings to being shared.
There is a pink theme in 2.1 catalog if i remember right. If you like pink that might be a good start for you to move the files around to see how they are built.
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NFX-HERO was listed in the Hero ROMs section. You sure it's only for G1? Would another phone's ROM actually even flash to a different phone properly? I mean it works, but with boot loops.
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Haha... I see how that can be misinterpreted.
Yeah, NFX is a Hero ROM, I was asking if you were trying to flash it on a G1, because if you were, it wouldn't work.
I like Regawmod 2.1. Fast with a nice dark theme. Based off of damage control. Just my two cents.
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we all know htc sense. slow, clunky, sense. everyone wants the best out of their phone, but there is something that is just so appealing about sense that stops our fingers over those barebone scripts. that thing is..... the widgets!!
htc's widgets are the simplest, best, and most innovative. they are the only thing keeping me (and a bunch of other people) from switching to non-sense roms or at least running a barebone script. i love my simple, nice, smooth sense widgets. my question is, what locks widgets to a specific launcher? how easy or difficult would it be to break this tie? why has no dev tried this before (or has one?)? anybody with answers please comment.
asking widget devs might be the first place to start. anybody have any other ideas?
thanks for helping out...
dk
I believe the reason why nobody has done it is because of copyrights, HTC made beautiful widget take their widget down from the market because it was there flip clock (same thing with fancy widget ) and I believe that's why they don't mess with it just like you can't find swype apk in the forums, so I double a developer would do that to get in trouble , roms and rooting are ptacticly legal so not problem there
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i never thought of it that way. how is rooting and roms legal but a simple porting of widgets not? it would still be on the evo, for which it was intended right? if a non-sense dev put a few widgets into his rom, i would use it for sure. still sense right? either way, do you have any idea on what the process might be?
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i never thought of it that way. how is rooting and roms legal but a simple porting of widgets not? it would still be on the evo, for which it was intended right? if a non-sense dev put a few widgets into his rom, i would use it for sure. still sense right? either way, do you have any idea on what the process might be?
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Mm yeah is copyrights just look at this article about HTC and beautifull Widgets to take there app down
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...-infringement-for-video-of-beautiful-widgets/
And is the same as asking a developer to make the Widgets work a non sense launcher
And roms if different there legal, you buy the device you have the right to do wtv you want I can't find the article but they are
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ok. what about personally doing it? if you dont share it (publicly or privately) wouldnt it be ok? baisically i'm asking can it be done?
It can be done. Ethics and legality come into play. I beleve it is called reverse engeneering or reengineering, which is not techniccly illegal, but htc removes the right to reverse engineer/reengineer. Its in the copywright.
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Thanks for the info. I will do a google search later. With legality, i don't plan on sharing it, so copyrights won't be a problem. With ethnics, i just want to get the most out of my phone. I cant find a task or notes widget anywhere close to the htc one. If htc has a problem, or even a way to find out, if I am using stock widgets on a different launcher, i will delete them. Thanks for all your help.
I googled and can't find anything helpful anyways so I guess I will just stick with clunky old sense.
Check out LauncherPro Plus. Fede, the developer, has added a number of Sense-like widgets to the Plus version and has promised to add more. So far he has released a Facebook widget, Twitter, a Friendstream-like widget, Bookmarks, MMS, and Contacts.
No RSS widget or email yet but I am crossing my fingers.
Ive Been looking for a Sense based ROM for my Inspire 4G that includes a BT Stack that supports HID devices, Ive done my Research and have only found a couple things:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128343
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767150
Now I know that both those have the "Just install CM7 it does everything" answer somewhere in the thread, and honestly, I did just that, I rooted my phone and installed CM7. and the Wiimote and Sixaxis controlers work great with my GBA and Sega Genesis Emulators.
But I don't like a lot of the CM7 interface Choices, such as the Phone that comes with it, and I prefer the HTC Message widget over anything I can find in the market.
On top of that It seems that the process has also Done away with my HSUPA
My Question: Is there any Sense Roms out that have Added the BT Stack that CM7 Uses.
And if not, since their code is on Github, how hard would it be to Modify a sense based rom to add the BT implementation?
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Ive Been looking for a Sense based ROM for my Inspire 4G that includes a BT Stack that supports HID devices, Ive done my Research and have only found a couple things:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128343
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767150
Now I know that both those have the "Just install CM7 it does everything" answer somewhere in the thread, and honestly, I did just that, I rooted my phone and installed CM7. and the Wiimote and Sixaxis controlers work great with my GBA and Sega Genesis Emulators.
But I don't like a lot of the CM7 interface Choices, such as the Phone that comes with it, and I prefer the HTC Message widget over anything I can find in the market.
On top of that It seems that the process has also Done away with my HSUPA
My Question: Is there any Sense Roms out that have Added the BT Stack that CM7 Uses.
And if not, since their code is on Github, how hard would it be to Modify a sense based rom to add the BT implementation?
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No There isnt as alot of the sense parts are coded just for the HTC drivers. Would need to be able to change the base sense coding for the new drivers.
Thanks a Bunch, Guess its back to looking for a Rom,
Second Question: Im looking at Android Revolution and NoSense++
If this removes the Sense Launcher, It seemingly keeps all the things I like:
HTC Dialer
HTC Lockscreen
HTC Contacts app
Facebook for htc sense(I could Deal without this but a +)
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and removes the things I can live without:
Sense launcher
Sense Skins
All HTC Widgets
HTC Direct
HTC Hub
HTC Peep
HTC Recommends
HTC Wallpapers
My HTC
Ereader and some Ebooks.
Flickr
News and Weather
RSS Reader
Stock
Weather app
Voice Dialer
SMS/MMS ap
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Would this be the begining of a fix? Possibly to Install BT drivers after all this as a 3rd step? (from a non technical explination) Would it be possible to create a Script to then add the CM7 BT implementation, since sense is removed(though I'm not sure what else would get in the way...)
Only a theory
Jay_PC said:
Thanks a Bunch, Guess its back to looking for a Rom,
Second Question: Im looking at Android Revolution and NoSense++
If this removes the Sense Launcher, It seemingly keeps all the things I like:
and removes the things I can live without:
Would this be the begining of a fix? Possibly to Install BT drivers after all this as a 3rd step? (from a non technical explination) Would it be possible to create a Script to then add the CM7 BT implementation, since sense is removed(though I'm not sure what else would get in the way...)
Only a theory
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Even with those removed the rom still relies on the com.HTC.resources.apk and the sense jar files. Those are the ones where the coding would need yo be changed. Unless HTC updates the drivers to do this then it will not happen.
Is there anyway to put Sense on this ROM to get HTC widgets. I'm an advanced user and don't need a lot of instruction. Just what folders/files need to be added/edited. Please tell me it's possible. The widgets suck on this Galaxy Nexus cloned ROM. I would rather have the HTC Vivid (Smartbeat Supremacy v3.1) but the camera and google's voice searh do not work (yet)
Nope, your best bet is to use third party apps.
akafarmer said:
Is there anyway to put Sense on this ROM to get HTC widgets. I'm an advanced user and don't need a lot of instruction. Just what folders/files need to be added/edited. Please tell me it's possible. The widgets suck on this Galaxy Nexus cloned ROM. I would rather have the HTC Vivid (Smartbeat Supremacy v3.1) but the camera and google's voice searh do not work (yet)
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The Widgets are built into the launcher. The launcher needs HTC files, drivers and frameworks which AOSP roms do not use. If you need the widgets then you will have to run an HTC based rom.
A search would have told you this.
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