Any thoughts on this?
I love the UI for Peep and feel like it deserves to be graced onto the Nexus One.
+1 i loved this, maybe it will be in the ported desire rom!
It is. I just flashed the alpha Desire ROM shortly after posting this, and after using Peep for a bit, I don't like it too much! Just the widget is aesthetically pleasing haha
For the 100th time... u cannot use htc widgets on the n1. they use different frameworks thus the lack of compatibility.
Not just the widget, either, this app, peep, depends on HTC's framework, which is proprietary, and therefore can't be ported to work on a non-HTC ROM. If you want peep, you have to use a full HTC-Sense ROM, like Desire. Same thing with the widgets, the mail client, the music player (mostly--there has been some success getting it to port from Hero to Dream/Magic, way back in the day), or anything else that depends on HTC. In short, if it looks like Sense, you need a HTC ROM to use it.
its funny how the same question gets asked over and over and over again.
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Firstly for those thinking, "just get DarchDroid! It's already AOSP," I would first like to explore this option. I like Sense UI, just hate the lag associated with certain Sense apps and would at least like to try the AOSP versions before completely switching to a new ROM.
I did some searching, but couldn't find any sure apk's that will work on a CDMA Hero. The closest I found was some working for the EVO 4G (here), but I don't want to risk it not working on the Hero.
Is it possible for someone to pull some apk's from DarchDroid ROM and have them work on Sense-based ROMs?
Suppose there are working apk's, will they replace or coexist with the HTC apps?
Thanks in advance, and I apologize if this was already done.
Edit: found some apk's!
Edit 2: apparently I suck at searching; there was another thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667715#7 but at least my thread has the DeskClock.apk
I feel your pain, or at least I did. I liked sense but hated all the lag such as the lag when scrolling threw contacts and SMS. All those little small areas where it would lag drove me crazy. I tried installing the apks from darchdroid but it didn't work so I searched it up. Got the same results as you. I had no choice but to go with darchdroid but I am more than satisfied now. Throw launcherpro on it and you wont regret it. AOSP is like a simplified less flashy version and I love it. I hope some one has a real answer for you though because I'm curious myself. Good luck.
Oh. If you do end up trying darchdroid, try out gomorrah's blackmod theme for it. It's sick.
Well, I managed to find the AOSP messaging app when I wasn't even looking for it! Go figure. It was in a thread talking about keyboard lag. Some claim that for texting, using AOSP messaging app has much less keyboard lag than the HTC messaging app. For those curious, it's here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6309233&postcount=6
Oh and it looks like it replaces the HTC messaging app; they cannot coexist.
Edit: It also occurred to me that flipz included the AOSP alarm as part of his AOSP lock screen fix!
Much less lag. The messaging app is the only one that worked when I tried replacing them though. The phone and contacts apps were giving problems. I didn't know what to do so I just went with darchdroid. If you like sense, maybe there is a way to add it to an AOSP ROM. Maybe you can just try installing the HTC Sense launcher apk on darch's ROM.
I'm putting this out there, cuz I'm pretty sure everyone wants some sense widgets. I know JsChiSurf is like.... RIDICULOUSLY good at hacking things up and getting them working...so...if he, or anyone else wants to take a shot. I'd love to have the htc sense message widget (and even bookmarks widget) working on Non-Sense launchers. Is there anyway someone can
a) Create one from scratch that looks/acts just like the sense ones?
or
b) hack up the htc ones to work with launchers like...launcher pro, or helix, awd, etc.
I'd be willing to donate good money if someone could get this working....and I'm sure others would as well.
Post a reply if you'd be willing to donate...maybe then we'd generate more interest for devs to work on it.
The dev for launcher pro is working on recreating all of the sense widgets. I know its $2.99 for the plus version which allows you to get the extra widgets. Right now he has people widget, calander widget, and bookmark widget along with some new features.. Check it out here > http://www.launcherpro.com/?cat=3
+1 for LauncherPro Plus
In case you also want the number counts on the dailer/messages/gmail icons like Sense does, there is an app called SMS Unread Count.
http://android.kanokgems.com/sms-unread-count
Contrary to its name, you can make a widget for SMS, Gmail, and the Dialer. And bonus for you, for each widget you add you can choose the icon you want:
-"classic" aka 1.5 vanilla
-"eclair" aka 2.1 vanilla
-"hero" aka Sense
Thanks guys! That's great info. I'll download lunch plus pro right now...I was looking around his website a few days ago because I heard someone say he could get sense widgets working (on this forum), but when I went to his site's forum, I saw that his most recent post said "sorry guys....there is no way to get sense widgets working". Hopefully his will be just as good.
Thanks again for the info!
-alex
alexthearmo said:
Thanks guys! That's great info. I'll download lunch plus pro right now...I was looking around his website a few days ago because I heard someone say he could get sense widgets working (on this forum), but when I went to his site's forum, I saw that his most recent post said "sorry guys....there is no way to get sense widgets working". Hopefully his will be just as good.
Thanks again for the info!
-alex
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Hey Alex, the new version of Launcher Pro Plus now has a messaging widget. Just like you asked for.
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Hey Alex, the new version of Launcher Pro Plus now has a messaging widget. Just like you asked for.
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Hey Gomorrah! Long time no talk. I just downloaded it, and it's pretty slick! I still like the way the sense one looks a little better...but this will definitely do!
Our phones are getting slicker by the day! By the way...the "Post Your Screen Shot's" thread, should be called "Gomorrah's Phone Will Always Look 10 Times Cooler Than Yours" thread!
Good work man!
A scrollable rss news widget which aggregates all feeds into a single stream, like the one included with sense would be amazing. Thats the only thing I miss since leaving sense.
we all know htc sense. slow, clunky, sense. everyone wants the best out of their phone, but there is something that is just so appealing about sense that stops our fingers over those barebone scripts. that thing is..... the widgets!!
htc's widgets are the simplest, best, and most innovative. they are the only thing keeping me (and a bunch of other people) from switching to non-sense roms or at least running a barebone script. i love my simple, nice, smooth sense widgets. my question is, what locks widgets to a specific launcher? how easy or difficult would it be to break this tie? why has no dev tried this before (or has one?)? anybody with answers please comment.
asking widget devs might be the first place to start. anybody have any other ideas?
thanks for helping out...
dk
I believe the reason why nobody has done it is because of copyrights, HTC made beautiful widget take their widget down from the market because it was there flip clock (same thing with fancy widget ) and I believe that's why they don't mess with it just like you can't find swype apk in the forums, so I double a developer would do that to get in trouble , roms and rooting are ptacticly legal so not problem there
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i never thought of it that way. how is rooting and roms legal but a simple porting of widgets not? it would still be on the evo, for which it was intended right? if a non-sense dev put a few widgets into his rom, i would use it for sure. still sense right? either way, do you have any idea on what the process might be?
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i never thought of it that way. how is rooting and roms legal but a simple porting of widgets not? it would still be on the evo, for which it was intended right? if a non-sense dev put a few widgets into his rom, i would use it for sure. still sense right? either way, do you have any idea on what the process might be?
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Mm yeah is copyrights just look at this article about HTC and beautifull Widgets to take there app down
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...-infringement-for-video-of-beautiful-widgets/
And is the same as asking a developer to make the Widgets work a non sense launcher
And roms if different there legal, you buy the device you have the right to do wtv you want I can't find the article but they are
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ok. what about personally doing it? if you dont share it (publicly or privately) wouldnt it be ok? baisically i'm asking can it be done?
It can be done. Ethics and legality come into play. I beleve it is called reverse engeneering or reengineering, which is not techniccly illegal, but htc removes the right to reverse engineer/reengineer. Its in the copywright.
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Thanks for the info. I will do a google search later. With legality, i don't plan on sharing it, so copyrights won't be a problem. With ethnics, i just want to get the most out of my phone. I cant find a task or notes widget anywhere close to the htc one. If htc has a problem, or even a way to find out, if I am using stock widgets on a different launcher, i will delete them. Thanks for all your help.
I googled and can't find anything helpful anyways so I guess I will just stick with clunky old sense.
Check out LauncherPro Plus. Fede, the developer, has added a number of Sense-like widgets to the Plus version and has promised to add more. So far he has released a Facebook widget, Twitter, a Friendstream-like widget, Bookmarks, MMS, and Contacts.
No RSS widget or email yet but I am crossing my fingers.
I'm currently using Gingerbread Sense Rom for my DHD, however the only reason I use it is for the Facebook integration, the style of the message app is nice but not dissimilar to the stock app and the rest is quite similar or easily replaceable.
Is there an app I'm not aware of that recreates the Sense functionality for non-Sense roms? Would rather use CM7 Nightlies but I do like the contacts and Facebook integration.
Though it us not very sense like, try "go contacts". It is miui like and actually very good
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Truthfully the design doesn't bother me it's the Facebook integration (automatic pictures and statuses), the auto-linking contacts based on name etc
If you purchase Launcher Pro they have numerous "sense-like" widgets including one for contacts. There is also a free app on the Market called Photo Contracts widget that is similar.
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Thanks, Colorize does a similar thing too but is there nothing that replicates just how integrated Facebook is with Sense UI? The official Facebook app itself is awful with contacts so I recall... It's nice to just have pictures automatically updates (SyncMyPix is fine but it to be done automatically without extra apps is far better!)
Hi chrisa86,
I'm totally with you. Yesterday I flashed CyanogenMod on my Desire. Coming from a sense-based ROM, specially the Contacts App is a pain. I want my nice and clear list with links and Facebook back!
I don't mind Widgets, because I'm using Launcher Pro, but the App itself.
So far, I tried Youlu, but is it more at the stock side than on the Sense side
Unfortunately, there is nothing like the Facebook integration in Sense. And the latest Gingerbread update even went back in terms of the Facebook/Android connexions.
That's the only thing I miss from Sense ROMS actually...
Yes, I just flashed Redux rom (which is very good by the way) to try gingerbread, and I'm badly missing the HTC contacts as well.
Additionally from facebook integration, there's also something missing: the ability to type a person name's directly from the dialer (aka Smart Dial : http://www.mobisleapps.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Screen-shot-2010-01-12-at-4.16.47-PM.png)
Any workarounds ?
Dialer One in the market has smart dial. You can set that as your default phone app.
Yep, I should have done more research before asking. I just realized that there are numerous alternative dialers.
However, to get back to the OP question, nothing like sense contacts (for facebook sync) at the moment, right ?
I've had several HTC phones and I really don't see the appeal of Sense. Disable Sense, either with script, new launcher, or new rom is literally the first thing I do when I get a new HTC phone. Yet I see a steady request from people to make more Sense ROMs or add Sense features to nonSense ROMs. I know it's blasphemy around here, but I actually like TouchWiz and the iPhone UI. So I ask:
What is it about Sense that you find attractive?
EDIT: I want to add that I'm not trying to "troll" or be confrontational or contrary, more wondering if there is something about Sense that I'm missing or possibly haven't taken advantage of. Obviously HTC is doing really well right now and I'm sure that their Sense UI plays a role in that.
MHO, im in the same boat you are sir, the only thing I do like is the social networking features built in, although now, i use launcherpro, so i am just waiting till i can root, then its CM time!
Its simple and very user friendly. The UI is very eye appealing to me. Its really all personal choice. I always find myself enjoying things built into sense roms like the ringtone trimmer is pretty stellar!
Sense 4+ and Sense 5 are awesome implementations to HTCs new devices, I got my HTC One in the mail yesterday and I have been enjoying the less intrusive side of Sense 5 but blink feed needs to go ASAP
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I don't see anything in it, except more battery and more heavy. Deleting it is the first thing I do in any ROM. Well, the ROMs I use now don't have Sense bundled
Edit: I have been using ZEAM launcher for months now... both on Captivate and Inspire.
I hate how it reaches to every aspect of the phone. I never liked TouchWiz, but at least TouchWiz was pretty much just a launcher. I really don't like anything besides AOSP, though.
I like the themeing, but I hate Sense itself. That's why I'm using CM7 themed like Sense.
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I don't like Sense either. I find that it normally slows my phone down dramatically and drains the battery. I rarely used anything in Sense, so I have also always disabled it!
I'm in the middle.. I enjoy sense because it is pretty much one thing EYE-CANDY. Its awesome to see and show off as well as some of the features built in especially friendstream and the weather. I love AOSP as well, reason I have widgetlocker and a few other apps to bring me my AOSP goodness. Sense roms dont really drain battery.. I get amazing life on Kingdom Sense 3.0 and Honey Sense HD 1.5.
This is gonna be a stupid reason, but the clock/weather widget.
I also think that it's the #1 replicated part of Sense.
I like it as it looks sweet. It also hooks me into my entire social world. When I have a sense rom running anyone and everyone can hit me up, Facebook friends, google friends, tweet friends. Everything shows me as logged in and ready to communicate.
That said I am running Gingerbeast ASOP, with Go Launcher EX and Widget locker right now and loving the Battery Life. while still looking amazing.
I'm on the fence on Sense, seem to flash back and forth between AOSP roms and sense roms like clockwork. I can say that my preference is stock Gingerbread with Launcher Pro widgets.
Here are some of the Sense pros:
-The lock screen on Sense 3.0 is almost enough to keep me using sense.
-I also like the better integration with Facebook and LinkedIn in my contacts.
-It's near impossible and expensive to re-create all of the HTC Widgets in a non-sense rom. The closest alternative is Launcher Pro, paid version to get the extra widgets, plus Beautiful widgets for the home screen clock. You can find comperable widgets, but if your a design purist, it's hard to get all of them looking consistant
- You can actually get decent battery with the right custom roms. I run TBFusion with the Lee kernel, undervolt, setcpu, and it's good for a full day.
Dislikes:
-Dialer - very old-school number search approach I have never liked. It was designed for when phones had only numberpads to allow you to find contacts quickly. Basically the deal-breaker for me on Sense.
-Keyboard layout; hide key is too close to space and shift, plus very cluttered (easily fixed by installing another keyboard)
-Not a fan of the way they implemented quick settings in the notifications. Having to slide down, then tab between notifications and settings is an extra step. Seems silly, but gets annoying if you've ever used CM7 or something like that.
I really like the simplicity, speed, and battery performance of pure AOSP Gingerbread. I'm running Gingerbeast at the moment. Very smooth.
IMO - if you like iPhone and touchjizz, try MIUI
IMHO, Sense is a very cool thing. I love Sense ROMs and wish that Sense was open source so that many of its features could be added to CM7 or vice versa. For me, the cons list is short so I'll start there.
---CONS---
-Battery life is reduced
-System is slightly slowed
-RAM is hogged by Rosie, Sense, and Sense apps
+++PROS+++
+The keyboard is very good IMO
+The UI is clean and appealing
++Menus are colorful and therefore easier to navigate IMO
++Organization and useability of things such as the Customizations menu is superior to Android Stock
+The widgets are all built in and are very functional (Mail, News, Settings, Stocks)
+Many HTC apps are superior IMO to the stock Google apps.
+Seven home screens as opposed to 5 for stock. (However, I know CM7 and many others can add screens, I like the layout of Sense better as you do not have to choose whether home key goes to default screen or overview as you do in CM7. Sense home key toggles between the two)
Yes, I realize many will argue that the genie widget is great for news, but HTC's News widget (Google RSS reader) is the most visually appealing and easiest to use of all news widgets I have tried.
I do have to give HTC props on their implementation of Select/Copy/Paste, it is much better than AOSP - the magnifying glass method is definitely better than the stupid little marker method.