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UK Vodafone Magic Root & Rom summary/help.

OK just spent a significant amount of time reading your forums and im nearly there just wanted some clarification on rooting and choice of roms for a UK Vodafone Magic as there doesnt seem to be one collection of advice for UK voda's. Here's how I think it goes please correct me!!
1. Root using haykuro’s method and files in the wiki. (Did read a post about uk voda users then having to flash a rom because reboot didnt work fully.)
2. Update the SPL according to the same wiki article. This is where its hazy!!! I am now left with a rooted magic with stock rom, (ie uk voda in my case.) an updated spl, allowing me to now do a full nandroid backup of stock rom or only a backup of installed apps only???? See where im getting confused??
If I then choose to not flash a rom to my Magic I am now running my stock rom (or a haykuro rom.) but with the added bonus of it being rooted, which in-turn allows me to run those useful apps available in the store, bluex, setCPU etc???????
God am I going mad!!

mwade12001 said:
God am I going mad!!
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You and me both I'm in exactly the same situation as you, with the same decisions to make and same questions. I personally wouldn't mind installing a stock ION rom (or maybe the Japanese version since I speak English/Japanese) but essentially would like to know what you would like to know! Before I change my SPL though, I'd like to know if I can back it up.

mwade12001 said:
OK just spent a significant amount of time reading your forums and im nearly there just wanted some clarification on rooting and choice of roms for a UK Vodafone Magic as there doesnt seem to be one collection of advice for UK voda's. Here's how I think it goes please correct me!!
1. Root using haykuro’s method and files in the wiki. (Did read a post about uk voda users then having to flash a rom because reboot didnt work fully.)
2. Update the SPL according to the same wiki article. This is where its hazy!!! I am now left with a rooted magic with stock rom, (ie uk voda in my case.) an updated spl, allowing me to now do a full nandroid backup of stock rom or only a backup of installed apps only???? See where im getting confused??
If I then choose to not flash a rom to my Magic I am now running my stock rom (or a haykuro rom.) but with the added bonus of it being rooted, which in-turn allows me to run those useful apps available in the store, bluex, setCPU etc???????
God am I going mad!!
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try here, this will help you
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
thanks
B

Thanks for the fast response, this is the wiki i was referring to in my original post a helpful guide it is but it still doesn't answer the question, after I complete all the steps listed. Which rom will be on my phone?? the original rom?? (Vodafone in my case) or the haykuro rom??

mwade12001 said:
Thanks for the fast response, this is the wiki i was referring to in my original post a helpful guide it is but it still doesn't answer the question, after I complete all the steps listed. Which rom will be on my phone?? the original rom?? (Vodafone in my case) or the haykuro rom??
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Sorry have changed my rom a few times now. no, your rom will be replaced and and I think you will find te new rom its the ION rom.
Thanks
B

mwade12001 said:
OK just spent a significant amount of time reading your forums and im nearly there just wanted some clarification on rooting and choice of roms for a UK Vodafone Magic as there doesnt seem to be one collection of advice for UK voda's. Here's how I think it goes please correct me!!
1. Root using haykuro’s method and files in the wiki. (Did read a post about uk voda users then having to flash a rom because reboot didnt work fully.)
2. Update the SPL according to the same wiki article. This is where its hazy!!! I am now left with a rooted magic with stock rom, (ie uk voda in my case.) an updated spl, allowing me to now do a full nandroid backup of stock rom or only a backup of installed apps only???? See where im getting confused??
If I then choose to not flash a rom to my Magic I am now running my stock rom (or a haykuro rom.) but with the added bonus of it being rooted, which in-turn allows me to run those useful apps available in the store, bluex, setCPU etc???????
God am I going mad!!
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I haven't rooted mine yet either.
As a vetran of WMO I am a bit confused, but basically I think you can't root and keep your original Vodafone rom.
To do this, someone would have had to have produced a rooted version of this rom and no one has.
you can install the latest generic ion rom rooted.
if you want to go back to vodafone you'll have to find the rom.
The other annoying thing is that you can't do a rom backup without rooting it .... duh!
if I am wrong, someone please correct me!!

As i feared!! so the rom for rooting your magic also replaces the system with the haykuro ion rom. So as yet there is now way of keeping/backing up the original voda uk magic rom. (To revert back to at a later stage or if you f**k it up!!)
So this now leaves us uk voda magic users with the question which rom to go for which has the same functions as the uk voda rom. Ive read about the main ones ion r3 lite, nk02s htc beta 3, the rodgers and most recently the hero rom. Sounds like the community is really geting going!!
I am looking for :
1. wifi
2. bluetooth
3. 3G
4. Google sync
5. camera (as ive heard some roms dont support it.)
6. market (once again some roms with problems.)
7. superuser (obviously.)
8. Location
9. Voice is a bonus but not essential as uk voda does not have it
OK so i want it all lol, So far the Ion r3-lite looks the most suited but i cannot confirm the camera works so come on you clever ppl help us uk voda's out!!
Thx

brian colston said:
Sorry have changed my rom a few times now. no, your rom will be replaced and and I think you will find te new rom its the ION rom.
Thanks
B
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Thanks for the clarification Brian, so which roms have you tried and what are you using currently?

look, the first thing on this site to use is the search fuction. You can backup your current rom with nandroid backup. so please search before posting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524925
Thanks
B

mwade12001 said:
Thanks for the clarification Brian, so which roms have you tried and what are you using currently?
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I have messed around with all the roms at the moment even the superhero. i am using at the moment the HTC one, but i have added a few things myself to the rom. i keep messing about with them all the time and spend more time flashing it han using it.
if you need any help just let me know
Thanks
B

brian colston said:
look, the first thing on this site to use is the search fuction. You can backup your current rom with nandroid backup. so please search before posting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524925
Thanks
B
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but it appears you need to root before nandroid
and to successfully root, you need to install ion, otherwise it won't boot
isn't this catch 22 ?

Thanks Brian im probably going to give it a go tomorrow and go with the ion r3 lite rom to start!!
But once again to clarify you just pointed me to a link showing howto back up the rom by using the updated spl and nandroid backup function, to do this your magic must already be rooted and as you stated earlier by rooting the magic you will therefore replaced the vodafone rom with the ion rom. So a backup at this stage would be of the ion rom and not the stock vodafone rom. Am I correct???
If I get stuck i will be sure to take you up on your offer or further help. Thx

double post sorry colonel seems like your understanding what im saying!

mwade12001 said:
Thanks Brian im probably going to give it a go tomorrow and go with the ion r3 lite rom to start!!
But once again to clarify you just pointed me to a link showing howto back up the rom by using the updated spl and nandroid backup function, to do this your magic must already be rooted and as you stated earlier by rooting the magic you will therefore replaced the vodafone rom with the ion rom. So a backup at this stage would be of the ion rom and not the stock vodafone rom. Am I correct???
If I get stuck i will be sure to take you up on your offer or further help. Thx
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follow this:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
whe you type in the command at stage 11, the phone should go into recovery mode and you should then see the option to backup you current rom. this will backup onto your storage card. if you dont see that option then DONOT update
Thanks
B

rooting your magic does not replace the user interface bit of the rom. You can root it without going to ION or anything else

brian colston said:
follow this:
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
whe you type in the command at stage 11, the phone should go into recovery mode and you should then see the option to backup you current rom. this will backup onto your storage card. if you dont see that option then DONOT update
Thanks
B
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barefootnz said:
rooting your magic does not replace the user interface bit of the rom. You can root it without going to ION or anything else
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thanks guys
1. will try the backup *done thanks*
2. * the guide does not replace the firmware, and my phone booted ok *
many thxs all

OK colonel so you have a success you followed the guide at " http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting "
................and didn't have a problem at the reboot command?? (So no need to revert to the follow on guide at " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524925 " which would mean having to replace the standard voda rom.)
So you now have a rooted uk voda magic running on the original rom?? As well as a backup of the original rom, meaning that you can now flash custom roms to your hearts content with the reassurance of being able to flash back to the original voda rom if you should wish.

mwade12001 said:
OK colonel so you have a success you followed the guide at " http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting "
................and didn't have a problem at the reboot command?? (So no need to revert to the follow on guide at " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524925 " which would mean having to replace the standard voda rom.)
So you now have a rooted uk voda magic running on the original rom?? As well as a backup of the original rom, meaning that you can now flash custom roms to your hearts content with the reassurance of being able to flash back to the original voda rom if you should wish.
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indeed - exactly as you say
I had no issue with the rebooting problem mentioned elsewhere
although I don't intend on running a custom rom yet.
I did it purely to get root access, inititially to follow superxnova's excellent guide to get other language fonts (I wanted hebrew):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480964
** Make sure you select the option to make a backup after the command typed in step 11 **
One other thing I would say, the instructions are precise until step 14&15
instead of doing step 14 & 15 I went into fastboot mode by - step 10 (then back button), typed the command in step 11,then pressed update. After update i selected reboot.
not sure if that made any difference as "home + power" does the same thing

3g Gone
Hi - i've managed to root today and to install the new some new roms - thanks to all of the wonderful advice here. One thing I have noticed is that I lose my 3g capability with any rom apart from my original vodafone rom. I'm not too bothered as I can restore from a nandroid backup. Would be nice to be able to use the SuperHero v2 build i've currently got working (apart from the 3g).
Thx.
Niall

riddelln said:
Hi - i've managed to root today and to install the new some new roms - thanks to all of the wonderful advice here. One thing I have noticed is that I lose my 3g capability with any rom apart from my original vodafone rom. I'm not too bothered as I can restore from a nandroid backup. Would be nice to be able to use the SuperHero v2 build i've currently got working (apart from the 3g).
Thx.
Niall
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you probably need to refresh the apn
do some searching to find out how
I have to say, i am not in a rush to change the vodafone rom
its pretty fast and unbranded.
When I had a winmo I was keen to get a new rom for speed and newer builds/features, but don't really feel the need now
perhaps i will later!

Is there interest in a script to S-Off and flash stock ATT Rom?

So most of the guides here to flash Desire ROMs, or use cooked ROMs didn't appeal to me, and I don't think that a one-click root in the sense of a new exploit and leaving the rest of your phone intact will exist soon.
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
This leaves you at a point that I believe is back to stock with the only difference being S-OFF is on.
Then you can:
Remove Bloat (Rooting Not required, use psneuter)
Root if you want w/(no clockwork)
Install Clockwork
etc.
Is there any interest in this before I write something up?
Sorry if I missed this already and this thread can be delete if it has been covered
Thanks!

Both the hack kit and bubbys GUI will do this for you. Please check in one of those threads. Thanks.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.

Bubbys doesnt, it flashes a cooked rom I thought?

Cooked as in rooted AT&T stock. Either way, you can flash a rooted stock easy enough after you root. Try those threads. You'll get help. No need to start a new one. Good luck.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.

Thanks, I am already all set and rooted, not asking for help, just wanted to know if anyone else was interested in S-off and NOT rooting This leaves you in the position to easily root, add clockwork etc.
But yeah, mods go ahead and delete this thread, sorry!

real4g said:
Thanks, I am already all set and rooted, not asking for help, just wanted to know if anyone else was interested in S-off and NOT rooting
But yeah, mods go ahead and delete this thread, sorry!
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If you want s-off and "not" be rooted just flash back using the ruu. The ruu will remove root but radio security will remain off.
Ohhh...you meant this to be a reference. Gotcha

lrs421 said:
If you want s-off and "not" be rooted just flash back using the ruu. The ruu will remove root but radio security will remain off.
Ohhh...you meant this to be a reference. Gotcha
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Yep, yeah I already wrote a something, so after you have a gold card, all you have to do is run this script I wrote and it will wipe your phone and s-off it with stock rom all via adb. Then there is a second script to root the phone. and another to remove bloat.
The only manual interaction is creating a gold card and making sure debug mode is enabled.
I prefer to customize my own stock roms, not that I don't appreciate others work!

Well...This does sound interesting.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.

real4g said:
So most of the guides here to flash Desire ROMs, or use cooked ROMs didn't appeal to me, and I don't think that a one-click root in the sense of a new exploit and leaving the rest of your phone intact will exist soon.
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
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Really? You downgraded the radio without flashing a downgrade DHD ROM?
My BS detector is going off, especially since you are saying you flashed back a stock att rom. With any of the current methods of doing this, you are free to flash whatever you like when you are done and you can achieve exactly what you say you are trying to.
Please be clear - you are doing exactly what's already being done - except you are skipping the root/clockwork steps. In order to downgrade the radio, it must be in an HTC signed zip file, and if you had one with only the radio, there would be no need to flash back the RUU. That's needed because you did a full downgrade, not just a radio downgrade.

attn1 said:
Really? You downgraded the radio without flashing a downgrade DHD ROM?
My BS detector is going off, especially since you are saying you flashed back a stock att rom. With any of the current methods of doing this, you are free to flash whatever you like when you are done and you can achieve exactly what you say you are trying to.
Please be clear - you are doing exactly what's already being done - except you are skipping the root/clockwork steps. In order to downgrade the radio, it must be in an HTC signed zip file, and if you had one with only the radio, there would be no need to flash back the RUU. That's needed because you did a full downgrade, not just a radio downgrade.
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Nope, you are right, I miss-spoke, its a full downgrade.

real4g said:
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
This leaves you at a point that I believe is back to stock with the only difference being S-OFF is on.
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I have actually done this part. exactly as you mention. Now I would like to Root this stock ROM manually, rather than flash a pre-rooted ROM. I want to do this purely for experience so that I can gain a better understanding of the system and the process. I have not been able to find any real guidance for doing this as everything seems to be focused on creating and flashing pre-rooted roms.
Is it possible to root this stock ROM once you have S-OFF? or do you need to flash a pre-rooted ROM? Any guidance you might have will be much appreciated.

I would be interested in seeing the script just to see how you have done it

[Q] HTC Desire S stuck on yellow exclamation mark when updating to Android 2.5

Hi all,
I've been trying to update my HTC Desire S for a few days.
I want to update from Android 2.3.3 to 2.5 but I can't get it to work.
I will try to provide you with as much info as possible.
I have a rooted phone and I've also made backups of my ROM and apps using clockworkmod and titanium backup.
Now, if I try to update from within Android (I get a message sayin an OTA update is waiting for me) then it will reboot, but get stucked at the infamous white triangle with yellow exclamation mark.
Next thing I tried is booting in recovery mode and select apply update from zip file.
This gives me a whole list of errors, and I thought the update file was corrupt.
Note that every time the phone gets stucked I remove the battery, otherwhise I can't boot the phone again.
Now, I deleted the update from my sdcard and downloaded it again. Tried the same steps but nothing happened.
Last time I tried to get into recovery mode it got stuck at the pink T-Mobile logo. I'm looking at this screen for half an hour now.
To make a long story short:
- Update from 2.3.3 to 2.5
- Carriër: T-Mobile (NL)
- Phone: HTC Desire S
- ROOT: YES!
- HBOOT: 6.98.1002
- RADIO: 3805.06.02.03_M
I hope anyone is able to help me with this, right now I don't know what my phone is doing, and I cannot use it.
Best regards,
Marcoevich

Ok, I've removed the battery and managed to boot it again.
Now, I renamed the update file to update.zip and put it in the rood of my sdcard.
I got into recovery mode again, tried update from zip file on sdcard. Here's the error I got:
assert failed: check_cid(getprop("ro.cid"). "0000000" , "1111111" , "2222222" , "3333333" , "4444444" , "5555555" , "6666666" , "7777777" , "8888888" , "9999999" , "T-MOB003") == "t"
E:Error in /sdcard/update.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.

If you can get into recovery again I would recommend trying to restore your back up. You should not try to apply an OTA update to a rooted phone at all, you could have got a 2.5 update from a thread here. Sorry I can't help more but as far as I know you really need to get into recovery and get the back up restored or try and flash a new ROM.

Yeah, try a custom rom out there. Saga3D v4 is based on official desire s sense 3 update. Official ota can't work because hboot needs to ne updated (new partition table), and revolutionary hboot (6.98.0002) can't be overwritten by ota. Plus official ota needs stock recovery. Clockworkmod, 4ext recovery won't work. So either restore your backup or try a custom rom
Sent from my Desire S with Virtuous Quattro

Ok thx. Didn't knew i couldn't apply an OTA over a rooted ROM. I thought I would only lose my root after update.
But I've done some research in the meantime. I think I'm gonna flash the latest coredroid ROM, that one looks very promising

Thx again for your help, but I got one more question.
First i'd like to test the original htc OTA. So a workaround for that is restore my backup from before I rooted the phone.
The only thing is, will I be able to go back to the rooted ROM afterwards? OR do I need to root it again?

Well that is a little more complicated. The problem applying ota isn't the rooted rom, it is the custom recovery. Ota needs stock recovery to work.
And if you restore stock recovery and apply ota, your only possibility to root will be using htcdev unlock and permanently losing your warranty. (Htc will register your serial number and will be able to say that you voided your warranty)
Better using a custom rom.
Sent from my Desire S with Virtuous Quattro

Lol, I didn't saw that one comming
If I go to the htcdev site, I get the idea that HTC supports software development, and that it will repair phones even if they are rooted. So what's the point here? Why can't I 'normally' root my phone after upgrade to android 2.5?

Ok, to make things more clear for myself and others, I've done a conversation with an employee of the Dutch customer care department. I've translated the conversation to English, so you can understand it.
Here you go:
You are now connected with Susan.
Susan: Dear Marcoevich, thank you for your contacting HTC customer support.
Susan: What is your question exactly?
Marcoevich: Hey susan
Marcoevich: I will explain
Marcoevich: I have a rooted Desire S with Android 2.3.3
Marcoevich: Now I get an OTA update to Android 2.5 and Sense 3.0
Marcoevich: that update should be easy to apply when I restore a backup from Before my root
Marcoevich: But if I then go back to a custom ROM it is another story
Marcoevich: according to my friends at xda-developers I should do that with the htcdev unlock tool.
Marcoevich: but then I will lose all my warranty
Marcoevich: is that right?
Susan: Yes, if the unit is rooted u will void the warranty on your device. I understand that you have done this already?
Marcoevich: It is. but I think I read somewhere that HTC supports software development, and will fix rooted phones since August last year
Susan: HTC repairs the phones as usual, but the costs will be payed by the customer.
Marcoevich: Ah I see.
Marcoevich: What's the difference between a normal root or unlock the recovery using the htcdev tool? Because according to xda-developers I am losing my full warranty
Susan: It is exactly the same. No mather how you root the phone, you always lose the warranty.
Marcoevich: Hmm ok sin..
Marcoevich: I have one more question
Marcoevich: it is possible to restore your phone using a backup from before you rooted it.
Marcoevich: Can anyone, after I do this, see afterwards that it was a rooted phone?
Susan: I can give no answer. If a technician can see that the device has been rooted, it will be outside warranty. It is up to the repairers from Dynafix to determine this eventually.
Marcoevich: ok fine Thanks for your time!
Susan: Can I help you with anything else today?
Marcoevich: No, I understand now, I think
Marcoevich: thanks for your help!
To make a long story short: No matter how you root it, you will always lose your full warranty.
That's good to know
Edit: One more question remains: If I restore my phone with a backup from BEFORE I rooted it, will someone be able to see that it was a rooted phone?
Thanks in advance!
Marcoevich

Marcoevich said:
To make a long story short: No matter how you root it, you will always lose your full warranty.
That's good to know
Edit: One more question remains: If I restore my phone with a backup from BEFORE I rooted it, will someone be able to see that it was a rooted phone?
Thanks in advance!
Marcoevich
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As I understand it, no.
If you root it using htcdev they will have a record that you accepted their terms and conditions and rooted the phone thus voiding your warranty. If you have rooted using another method (Revolutionary for example) they have NO record that the phone was ever rooted.
You SHOULD be able to either restore your back-up (I'm not sure if this will bring it right back to stock, how did you make the back-up if it wasn't rooted?) or alternatively flash the stock rom you originally had from this site. There are threads on doing this right, and it will return your phone to stock, no one will be able to tell it was once rooted and you can then also download and apply the OTA update. I'm not quite sure why you might want to do that though as there are roms available here based on the ota update already, and much more exciting roms available as well. You should try some of these first before losing root with the ota update.
Also in future or for others reading this with similar situations: as Floatshow said I think the problem is partly caused by the revolutionary hboot being changed to 6.98.000, which the phone sees as higher than the ota roms hboot - to avoid this kind of problem it might be best to flash a new hboot - there are threads on this in the development section.
Good luck!

Thank you 4myphone! You explained it very clear
I made a backup using ROM Manager of my stock ROM. I hope the hboot etc is included in such a backup?
Thx for your explanation, I understand it now and if I ever have to send my phone to HTC I will use this site to return my phone to stock. I'm glad that it's possible
Best regards,
Marcoevich

Good question! I don't know if the hboot is part of the backup, it certainly doesn't change when you switch roms. I'd guess that restoring a back up would not change the hboot but I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong. Let me know if you test it

Nope. The hboot would NEVER be included in the recovery backup.

Which stock Sensation XE rom has the least amount of bloatware?

Which stock Sensation XE rom has the least amount of bloatware?
The question pretty much sums it up. I just got a Sensation XE, Hong Kong model. It has a lot of crap software on it: youni sms, xda assistant, 通通电话，baidu, kuwo player, and all this other Chinese crap. I hate Chinese software with passion. If skynet was/is real, I believe it would be running a Chinese OS. Chinese software naturally tries to take over your computer or phone.
I want to switch to the stock rom with the least amount of junk on it. If it also has a good Chinese/English keyboard with handwriting input that is a plus.
Also, just to make sure I'm on the right track, this is what should be done before I can change roms, right?
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom

typci said:
Which stock Sensation XE rom has the least amount of bloatware?
The question pretty much sums it up. I just got a Sensation XE, Hong Kong model. It has a lot of crap software on it: youni sms, xda assistant, 通通电话，baidu, kuwo player, and all this other Chinese crap. I hate Chinese software with passion. If skynet was/is real, I believe it would be running a Chinese OS. Chinese software naturally tries to take over your computer or phone.
I want to switch to the stock rom with the least amount of junk on it. If it also has a good Chinese/English keyboard with handwriting input that is a plus.
Also, just to make sure I'm on the right track, this is what should be done before I can change roms, right?
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom
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the steps are fine ..but 3rd step is not required ...and 2)better have 4EXT recovery ..its better imho and between 4 and 5 there might be one more step ..which can only be decided after you told the current rom you are having (if running gb now ..for ICS you need to flash 3.32/3.33 firmware ..then ROM)
as for the ROM ..for simple STOCK like and fully customized with bloat removed ..try ARHD, insert coin or Elegancia

Hi,
If you go through the steps you mentioned:
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod (Try to get a PG58IMG.zip version of it, saves having to fastboot flash it)
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom
You could stop at step3 and manuall delete stuff off the ROM you have. OR, what I'd probably do), and as mentioned you can skip step 3 if you're installing a new ROM. Go for a WWE (World Wide English) RUU if you want to keep completely Stock, you can then run ROMcleaner to remove some redundant crap.
Look for something like: RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.5_Radio_11.69. 3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_246089_signed.exe
It's ICS with Sense 3.6. The 401 in the above means it's WWE and will either need SuperCID (11111111) or HTC__001, it's completely unbranded.
You can find ROMcleaner at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217664

Thanks for the replies. I know I can root and then uninstall system apps. I don't really like doing that because you just don't know what else has been done to the rom. This Hong Kong rom won't let me use stock SMS (I know how to select default SMS program, it doesn't work on this rom) and doesn't have stock browser (it has some chinese version of Opera), is asking me if I want to invite my contacts to join all kinds of stupid networks, gets involved with my text messages, has some Chinese antivirus that keeps complaining, and all kinds of other crap. It's the worst rom I've ever seen. The WWE appears to be what I'm looking for. It's unbranded and shouldn't have carrier or region specific stuff. Youtube and other apps that don't ask me questions I can deal with.
I want root, for all of it's obvious benefits. I usually run stock, rooted and custom kernal with GPU overclock. But I'm not so sure I like sense, but I want to try a cleaner rom before I decide on sense.
I'm guessing I don't need to do the OTA update before I start the process. I also saw there were some special procedures for the latest ICS. I'll deal with that bridge when I get there. For now I just need a clean rom that doesn't bombard me with useless Chinese crap.

typci said:
Thanks for the replies. I know I can root and then uninstall system apps. I don't really like doing that because you just don't know what else has been done to the rom. This Hong Kong rom won't let me use stock SMS (I know how to select default SMS program, it doesn't work on this rom) or doesn't have stock browser (it has some chinese version of Opera), is asking me if I want to invite my contacts to join all kinds of stupid networks, gets involved with my text messages, has some Chinese antivirus that keeps complaining, and all kinds of other crap. It's the worst rom I've ever seen. The WWE appears to be what I'm looking for. It's unbranded and shouldn't have carrier or region specific stuff. Youtube and other apps that don't ask me questions I can deal with.
I want root, for all of it's obvious benefits. I usually run stock, rooted and custom kernal with GPU overclock. But I'm not so sure I like sense, but I want to try a cleaner rom before I decide on sense.
I'm guessing I don't need to do the OTA update before I start the process. I saw there were some special procedures for the latest ICS. I'll deal with that bridge when I get there. For now I just need a clean gingerbread that doesn't bombard me with useless Chinese crap.
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There are a few WWE GB ROMs out there, the one I mentioned is pretty slick as it's ICS which seems to work better IMHO.
The following is mentioned in post 1776 and there abouts in the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Pyramid
The OP has filefactory as the repository but it never worked for me so I gave up on it, looks like others had the same issue.
Just get a Europe one xxx.401.xxx. Avoid 1.24 if you want to go through OTA updates, I had issues with that, might have been me but .....
The ROMcleaner thing I mentioned is pretty good at removing the HTC extra stuff.
Of course, there are a few very nice custom ROMs out there. I was using Virtuous Inquisition (AOSP look and feel based on Sense but de-sensed as much as possible). I've not tried ARHD/IC and some of the others for a long time so can't comment on them.
Have fun and GL on your quest.
EDIT:
P.S. after applying the RUU you'll need to re-install CWM (again easiest was is if you have a PG58IMG.zip version of it) and then apply the root. It looks like the best root at the moment is SuperSU (reading some posts here from EddyOS).

Thanks again. I'm downloading:
RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.105_R2_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_253443_signed.exe
Now that I look again the 3.33 version is available, I probably should have downloaded that.
I've already got: ADB drivers, HTC Sync, HTC driver, java, pg58img(recovery.img), CMW 5.0.2.0, revolutionary-0.4pre4, su-2.3.63-efgh, and the unbrick stuff in case something goes wrong. Once I finished downloading the firmware I should be ready to go. I'll double check that all the files are good, re-read all the instructional threads, and then get started. My phone doesn't have a warranty, so I have to make sure everything is done correctly the first time.
I also found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Will I need to flash this as well?
HTC phones are so much more complicated compared to the other phones I've rooted and flashed. On my Huawei phone you plugged the phone in to the computer, copied two files, and you were rooted and had CWM installed.

typci said:
Thanks again. I'm downloading:
RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.105_R2_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_253443_signed.exe
Now that I look again the 3.33 version is available, I probably should have downloaded that.
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The 3.32 contains the 1.27.0000 HBOOT which can be unlocked (just done it myself). The 3.33 contains 1.29.0000 which at the moment cannot be unlocked.
As you're already S-OFF it probably doesn't make much difference. I'm on 3.32 at the moment, I don't know what the differences are between 3.32 & 3.33, I assume minor bug fixes.
I've already got: ADB drivers, HTC Sync, HTC driver, java, pg58img(recovery.img), CMW 5.0.2.0, revolutionary-0.4pre4, su-2.3.63-efgh, and the unbrick stuff in case something goes wrong. Once I finished downloading the firmware I should be ready to go. I'll double check that all the files are good, re-read all the instructional threads, and then get started. My phone doesn't have a warranty, so I have to make sure everything is done correctly the first time.
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Unless you go back to HBOOT 1.18.00 or earlier revolutionary can't help to S-OFF, as you're already S-OFF you shouldn't need it.
Does the PG58IMG.zip you mention contain CWM 5.0.2.0 ?, I usually keep a copy about called PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip, then change the name when I want to install it. The reason I ask is that PG58IMG.zip is a generic name and can be used for many things. You'll need to pop the uSD card when it asks you to reboot.
As far as SU is concerned, look at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I also found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Will I need to flash this as well?
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No the RUU is self contained and includes the firmware/radio. You might want to install HBOOT 1.27.0011 afterwards, IRC it allows fastboot commands. I think it's in that thread.
HTC phones are so much more complicated compared to the other phones I've rooted and flashed. On my Huawei phone you plugged the phone in to the computer, copied two files, and you were rooted and had CWM installed.
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I know HTC seemed to have created hassles. I had an early Sensation and waiting for someone to work out how to S-OFF was a real pain.
GL
EDIT
REMEMBER to take a nandroid backup before you start, just in case ! Also remember that nandroid backups don't include HBOOT or Radio so if you need to revert you'd need to get them. Take a note of the existing baseband/radio & HBOOT.

gol_n_dal said:
Does the PG58IMG.zip you mention contain CWM 5.0.2.0 ?, I usually keep a copy about called PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip, then change the name when I want to install it. The reason I ask is that PG58IMG.zip is a generic name and can be used for many things. You'll need to pop the uSD card when it asks you to reboot
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I found the PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip file you were talking about. I like that idea better.
gol_n_dal said:
REMEMBER to take a nandroid backup before you start, just in case ! Also remember that nandroid backups don't include HBOOT or Radio so if you need to revert you'd need to get them. Take a note of the existing baseband/radio & HBOOT.
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Good point. I'll add that to the list of steps so I don't forget.
1) Setup ADB/fastboot
2) Get S-off
3) Install Clockwork Mod
4) Backup via CWM!!!!
5) Get permanent root
6) Write super cid
7) Change Stock Rom
Unfortunately the rom didn't download correctly, so looks like I won't be installing the rom tonight.

typci said:
I found the PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip file you were talking about. I like that idea better.
Good point. I'll add that to the list of steps so I don't forget.
1) Setup ADB/fastboot
2) Backup via ADB!!!!
3) Get S-off
4) Install Clockwork Mod
5) Backup via CWM!!!!
6) Get permanent root
7) Write super cid
8) Change Stock Rom
Unfortunately the rom didn't download correctly, so looks like I won't be installing the rom tonight.
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The nandroid backup is via ClockworkMod, not certain what you're backing up through ADB/fastboot. Guess you could get Radio/Recovery etc. Never tried it myself, I like a simple life
There is no point applying SuperSU until after you have installed the new Stock ROM. You can change the CID directly with fastboot, it doesn't need root for that.
Shame about the download, at least the steps look about right.
Eek, I thought you already had S-OFF ? What HBOOT are you on at the moment ? If it's 1.18.0000 or earlier revolutionary.io is perfect, if it's later it's a different process.
Note that when you install the new stock rom via RUUxxxx.exe, it'll splat the custom recovery so it'll need to be re-applied.

Umm, I booted into HBOOT to get my HBOOT version and at the top of the screen it says:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT 1.17.008
RADIO-10.11.9007.15_M
That mean I already had S-OFF, right? Well that was easy.
Actually the phone was smuggled into China to avoid taxes. The sellers probably had to get S-OFF to put a Chinese language rom on there. Which also would explain all the extra bloatware, probably was installed by the same people.
Also, I wasn't able to pull the images through ADB. Have to wait until after rooted.
UPDATE: Installed CWM, backing up now, then root. So far so good. I'll probably have to settle for using Titanium Backup to remove the unwanted apps for now. The second try at downloading the RUU also failed.
UPDATE: Rooted, through it probably was already rooted. Also checked the CID and it was already 11111111. Thanks Chinese smugglers. You did all the work for me. Now to finish uninstalling all the crap you put on my phone.
So actually, the only work I did was install the SU and backup my system.

Nice to see it going smoothly for you, and remember if you want to install ics, you need to flash a ics firmware 3.32 or 3.33. Or you'll be in a boot loop.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda app-developers app

typci said:
Umm, I booted into HBOOT to get my HBOOT version and at the top of the screen it says:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT 1.17.008
RADIO-10.11.9007.15_M
That mean I already had S-OFF, right? Well that was easy.
Actually the phone was smuggled into China to avoid taxes. The sellers probably had to get S-OFF to put a Chinese language rom on there. Which also would explain all the extra bloatware, probably was installed by the same people.
Also, I wasn't able to pull the images through ADB. Have to wait until after rooted.
UPDATE: Installed CWM, backing up now, then root. So far so good. I'll probably have to settle for using Titanium Backup to remove the unwanted apps for now. The second try at downloading the RUU also failed.
UPDATE: Rooted, through it probably was already rooted. Also checked the CID and it was already 11111111. Thanks Chinese smugglers. You did all the work for me. Now to finish uninstalling all the crap you put on my phone.
So actually, the only work I did was install the SU and backup my system.
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LOL
As you say that was easy.
There are other sites that you can download 3.32.401 from as it's fairly common, have a look.
As you have a nandroid backup that you can recover back to if needed you can also try ROMcleaner.
I'm going to try a Jelly Bean ROM tomorrow so my nandroid backup will be vital )
A really nice fairly lightweight ROM is Virtuous Inquisition. As I said it's AOSP look and feel but has Sense backend, it's been de-sensed as much as possible.
Anyway Have Fun.

flare4000 said:
Nice to see it going smoothly for you, and remember if you want to install ics, you need to flash a ics firmware 3.32 or 3.33. Or you'll be in a boot loop.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda app-developers app
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I downloaded 3.32 Europe RUU. I plan to install that tonight after work.

typci said:
I downloaded 3.32 Europe RUU. I plan to install that tonight after work.
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The RUU will contain everything you need and update firmware, Radio, Recovery, HBOOT, ..... and of course the ROM.
Remember it'll flatten the ROM so all saved messages, WiFi details etc. will be lost.
If for some reason you need to revert back to your existing ROM you'll need to downgrade the firmware to 1.17.0008, including the radio. I doubt you'll bother though when you're on 3.32.

help
Does Anyone Have
RUU PYRAMID hTC Asia WWE 1.77.708.148
???

rafael1369 said:
Does Anyone Have
RUU PYRAMID hTC Asia WWE 1.77.708.148
???
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1. Don't double post, you posted this somewhere else as well.
2. Go and look in Football's Shipped ROM Collection thread.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium

help
I know but it's urgent
how I can upgrade my frimware to3.33.x???
I have install dark forest without upgrade my frimware but my device still in htc logo
s-on
with touch recovery
and rooted
please help mee

If it's that urgent you should spend time familiarize yourself with the search button. There is Asskicker's guide how to flash roms with s-on in the general forum. Plus I gave you a link to RUU's in the other thread you posted in.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e

matekaneve said:
If it's that urgent you should spend time familiarize yourself with the search button. There is Asskicker's guide how to flash roms with s-on in the general forum. Plus I gave you a link to RUU's in the other thread you posted in.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
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Hi
I dont understand what u saied??
What can I do?

[Q] need help where to go next

I have ATT HOX 2.20, unlocked, rooted, superCID, S-off, latest TWRP (thanks to all of you). I'm prett lost as to where to go next. I'd like to keep all of this and update to the latest stock ota Jellybean. However, when I check for ATT updates on the phone, nothing happens, even when I manually check in.
I would like the latest and greatest on this phone but more important is full functionality and full stability. If I could hit a button, return this phone to original, and download the latest ota, I would. I would then just use Titanium Backup to remove any bloatware that I didn't like. But I (and I suspect many others) spent weeks unlocking this phone because it was unclear when, or if, an official JB would ever arrive. So here I am, stuck in an inbetween moment. The part where this site offers way too many options with unclear results. I am looking for the least complicated, way to get the most fully functional and stable JB onto this phone and I'll be done. And, I can't figure out if it's the official update or one of a thousand offered Roms, kernels, radios, etc. Any and all specific advice would be appreciated. And, as always, thank you to all who post here. I've had a lot of fun (and a few scary moments).

runaway said:
I have ATT HOX 2.20, unlocked, rooted, superCID, S-off, latest TWRP (thanks to all of you). I'm prett lost as to where to go next. I'd like to keep all of this and update to the latest stock ota Jellybean. However, when I check for ATT updates on the phone, nothing happens, even when I manually check in.
I would like the latest and greatest on this phone but more important is full functionality and full stability. If I could hit a button, return this phone to original, and download the latest ota, I would. I would then just use Titanium Backup to remove any bloatware that I didn't like. But I (and I suspect many others) spent weeks unlocking this phone because it was unclear when, or if, an official JB would ever arrive. So here I am, stuck in an inbetween moment. The part where this site offers way too many options with unclear results. I am looking for the least complicated, way to get the most fully functional and stable JB onto this phone and I'll be done. And, I can't figure out if it's the official update or one of a thousand offered Roms, kernels, radios, etc. Any and all specific advice would be appreciated. And, as always, thank you to all who post here. I've had a lot of fun (and a few scary moments).
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Why do you want to go stock? Stock currently has only 4.1.1. There are various ROMs on the XDA, if you want a sense one try out the Viper XL and also there are various options for non-sense ROMs.
Anyways if you do want to flash the stock ROM here is the link: -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181399
Make sure you rea carefully before you flash the stock one from anywhere. There have been bricks. Also check out the FAQs. Hope this helped

runaway said:
I have ATT HOX 2.20, unlocked, rooted, superCID, S-off, latest TWRP (thanks to all of you). I'm prett lost as to where to go next. I'd like to keep all of this and update to the latest stock ota Jellybean. However, when I check for ATT updates on the phone, nothing happens, even when I manually check in.
I would like the latest and greatest on this phone but more important is full functionality and full stability. If I could hit a button, return this phone to original, and download the latest ota, I would. I would then just use Titanium Backup to remove any bloatware that I didn't like. But I (and I suspect many others) spent weeks unlocking this phone because it was unclear when, or if, an official JB would ever arrive. So here I am, stuck in an inbetween moment. The part where this site offers way too many options with unclear results. I am looking for the least complicated, way to get the most fully functional and stable JB onto this phone and I'll be done. And, I can't figure out if it's the official update or one of a thousand offered Roms, kernels, radios, etc. Any and all specific advice would be appreciated. And, as always, thank you to all who post here. I've had a lot of fun (and a few scary moments).
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I think pretty much everybody here will tell you to stay away from the new ota. It offers nothing new and some people have even bricked their phones while updating. My suggestion would be to install one of the custom roms as they're better optimissed and don't have all the bloat and are more customizable. I've found viperxl to be as stable as stock while adding a load of tweaks to highly personalize it. Cleanrom on the other hand doesn't have all the tweaks but is a stripped down Rom that's fast and stable. But you'll have to try you like best but I advise you not to ota. The ota will also update your touchscreen firmware that causes a lot of problems for cm users. If you think you might want to install cm10 don't update.
Sent from Xparent Red using my Venomized Evita

If you want stock flash CleanROM 6 r2. In fact, just flash everything in my signature + turge's WiFi fix. That will give you the latest "stock" experience for AT&T.
Sent from my HTC One XL

There's no need to "stay away" from the OTA if you know what you're doing. It contains some updates that are not in any of the Sense ROMs. If you want to update everything on your phone, it's easy and safe to do so since you're s-off. The only people who bricked were SuperCID and s-on. Here's what to do:
-Confirm that you're s-off (just to be safe)
-Make a full backup and copy it off your phone.
-Run 2.20 ruu. You need this to restore stock recovery.
-Download the ota, rename update.zip, and copy to internal storage.
-Reboot to bootloader, select recovery, press power and vol+ to get to recovery dialog.
-Ignore errors that come up. Select install from internal storage, select update.zip. Your phone may reboot a couple of times. Return to bootloader when done.
-Push custom recovery back on.
-Flash rooted rom
-Restore backups as necessary
I did all this a couple of weeks ago, and my phone is running faster and more smoothly than ever.
You will need to downgrade your touchscreen firmware if you ever plan to use an AOSP rom.

I'll try this
iElvis said:
There's no need to "stay away" from the OTA if you know what you're doing. It contains some updates that are not in any of the Sense ROMs. If you want to update everything on your phone, it's easy and safe to do so since you're s-off. The only people who bricked were SuperCID and s-on. Here's what to do:
-Confirm that you're s-off (just to be safe)
-Make a full backup and copy it off your phone.
-Run 2.20 ruu. You need this to restore stock recovery.
-Download the ota, rename update.zip, and copy to internal storage.
-Reboot to bootloader, select recovery, press power and vol+ to get to recovery dialog.
-Ignore errors that come up. Select install from internal storage, select update.zip. Your phone may reboot a couple of times. Return to bootloader when done.
-Push custom recovery back on.
-Flash rooted rom
-Restore backups as necessary
I did all this a couple of weeks ago, and my phone is running faster and more smoothly than ever.
You will need to downgrade your touchscreen firmware if you ever plan to use an AOSP rom.
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This is what I'm looking for. My second choice would be the highly recommended Viper Rom, and thirdly a CleanRom. I tried the CleanRom once and softbricked my phone so I'm a little shy now. I like the HTC Sense and don't mind keeping it. I just want a ROM designed specifically for this phone where everything works, is updated, and is stable. I feel like the official ota is the answer. The info on this site gets quite scattered when you get to this point. Do I stay locked, or do I re-lock? Do I keep TWRP or not? Do I flash or update? Boot image extract or no? S-off ok or no? etc. etc. I'll try your way first. Provided I come out the other side ok, I'll post the results here. Thank you for your help.

runaway said:
This is what I'm looking for. My second choice would be the highly recommended Viper Rom, and thirdly a CleanRom. I tried the CleanRom once and softbricked my phone so I'm a little shy now. I like the HTC Sense and don't mind keeping it. I just want a ROM designed specifically for this phone where everything works, is updated, and is stable. I feel like the official ota is the answer. The info on this site gets quite scattered when you get to this point. Do I stay locked, or do I re-lock? Do I keep TWRP or not? Do I flash or update? Boot image extract or no? S-off ok or no? etc. etc. I'll try your way first. Provided I come out the other side ok, I'll post the results here. Thank you for your help.
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Also, to clarify, by "backup" I meant both a nandroid (always a good idea when making changes), and your user apps+data.
When restoring, only restore user apps. A nandroid will put you back where you were. Don't restore system apps+data either, as this can cause problems, esp when upgrading your base.

iElvis said:
Also, to clarify, by "backup" I meant both a nandroid (always a good idea when making changes), and your user apps+data.
When restoring, only restore user apps. A nandroid will put you back where you were. Don't restore system apps+data either, as this can cause problems, esp when upgrading your base.
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Just to confirm, After downloading OTA and doing my backups, I need to find the original 2.20 file for this phone and restore stock recovery? (I'll have to admit, I'm a bit lost on this site and overwhelmed by all of the files I've downloaded to get this far. If anyone can post a link here to this file, and or, instructions, I'd appreciate it)
Here is where I stand right now:
Andriod 4.04, HTC Sense 4.0, Software number 2.20.502.7 710RD, HTC SDK API level 4.23
Tampered
Unlocked
EVITA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
CID-11111111
HBOOT-1.14.0002
RADIO-0.19as32.09.11-2
OpenDSP-v29.1.0.45.0622
eMMc-boot
Jun 11 2012 14:36:28

runaway said:
Just to confirm, After downloading OTA and doing my backups, I need to find the original 2.20 file for this phone and restore stock recovery? (I'll have to admit, I'm a bit lost on this site and overwhelmed by all of the files I've downloaded to get this far. If anyone can post a link here to this file, and or, instructions, I'd appreciate it)
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Yes, there is a link to the 2.20 ruu in the development section roll-up thread.