Is there interest in a script to S-Off and flash stock ATT Rom?

Is there interest in a script to S-Off and flash stock ATT Rom? - HTC Inspire 4G

So most of the guides here to flash Desire ROMs, or use cooked ROMs didn't appeal to me, and I don't think that a one-click root in the sense of a new exploit and leaving the rest of your phone intact will exist soon.
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
This leaves you at a point that I believe is back to stock with the only difference being S-OFF is on.
Then you can:
Remove Bloat (Rooting Not required, use psneuter)
Root if you want w/(no clockwork)
Install Clockwork
etc.
Is there any interest in this before I write something up?
Sorry if I missed this already and this thread can be delete if it has been covered
Thanks!

Both the hack kit and bubbys GUI will do this for you. Please check in one of those threads. Thanks.
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Bubbys doesnt, it flashes a cooked rom I thought?

Cooked as in rooted AT&T stock. Either way, you can flash a rooted stock easy enough after you root. Try those threads. You'll get help. No need to start a new one. Good luck.
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Thanks, I am already all set and rooted, not asking for help, just wanted to know if anyone else was interested in S-off and NOT rooting This leaves you in the position to easily root, add clockwork etc.
But yeah, mods go ahead and delete this thread, sorry!

real4g said:
Thanks, I am already all set and rooted, not asking for help, just wanted to know if anyone else was interested in S-off and NOT rooting
But yeah, mods go ahead and delete this thread, sorry!
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If you want s-off and "not" be rooted just flash back using the ruu. The ruu will remove root but radio security will remain off.
Ohhh...you meant this to be a reference. Gotcha

lrs421 said:
If you want s-off and "not" be rooted just flash back using the ruu. The ruu will remove root but radio security will remain off.
Ohhh...you meant this to be a reference. Gotcha
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Yep, yeah I already wrote a something, so after you have a gold card, all you have to do is run this script I wrote and it will wipe your phone and s-off it with stock rom all via adb. Then there is a second script to root the phone. and another to remove bloat.
The only manual interaction is creating a gold card and making sure debug mode is enabled.
I prefer to customize my own stock roms, not that I don't appreciate others work!

Well...This does sound interesting.
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real4g said:
So most of the guides here to flash Desire ROMs, or use cooked ROMs didn't appeal to me, and I don't think that a one-click root in the sense of a new exploit and leaving the rest of your phone intact will exist soon.
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
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Really? You downgraded the radio without flashing a downgrade DHD ROM?
My BS detector is going off, especially since you are saying you flashed back a stock att rom. With any of the current methods of doing this, you are free to flash whatever you like when you are done and you can achieve exactly what you say you are trying to.
Please be clear - you are doing exactly what's already being done - except you are skipping the root/clockwork steps. In order to downgrade the radio, it must be in an HTC signed zip file, and if you had one with only the radio, there would be no need to flash back the RUU. That's needed because you did a full downgrade, not just a radio downgrade.

attn1 said:
Really? You downgraded the radio without flashing a downgrade DHD ROM?
My BS detector is going off, especially since you are saying you flashed back a stock att rom. With any of the current methods of doing this, you are free to flash whatever you like when you are done and you can achieve exactly what you say you are trying to.
Please be clear - you are doing exactly what's already being done - except you are skipping the root/clockwork steps. In order to downgrade the radio, it must be in an HTC signed zip file, and if you had one with only the radio, there would be no need to flash back the RUU. That's needed because you did a full downgrade, not just a radio downgrade.
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Nope, you are right, I miss-spoke, its a full downgrade.

real4g said:
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
This leaves you at a point that I believe is back to stock with the only difference being S-OFF is on.
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I have actually done this part. exactly as you mention. Now I would like to Root this stock ROM manually, rather than flash a pre-rooted ROM. I want to do this purely for experience so that I can gain a better understanding of the system and the process. I have not been able to find any real guidance for doing this as everything seems to be focused on creating and flashing pre-rooted roms.
Is it possible to root this stock ROM once you have S-OFF? or do you need to flash a pre-rooted ROM? Any guidance you might have will be much appreciated.

I would be interested in seeing the script just to see how you have done it

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* I love the color orange.HTC Evo 2.3.3 Gingerbread Root Collaboration
The Lowdown on Everything
FASTBOOT
HTC's RUU releases basically run the adb reboot bootloader code, reconnect to the phone, verify the version and run a series of fastboot commands to install the contents of the PC36IMG (detailed below). In the same way it may be possible to run fastboot commands from command prompt with the SDK installed if you can time it just right in the flashing process, or not. The bootloader can be quite picky when it comes to letting anyone or anything flash anything lower than the version on the phone, or unsigned.
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PC36IMG
The PC36IMG is what is flashed in the bootloader. The contents of the zip include the radio, system, and more. As long as S-ON is present the bootloader won't flash any PC36IMG that isn't signed by HTC themeselves, however with S-OFF you can flash custom PC36IMGs as well as downgrade, because the bootloader doesn't check the firmware version to see if it's newer or not. If someone was however to be a sneaky awesome ninja and steal HTC's secret sauce then we could simply sign any PC36IMG we wanted to and fake a newer version in the android info txt.
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RECOVERY
From my understanding the stock recovery references alot with the bootloader to check for most of the same checks it looks for in the PC36IMG, but in the update.zip HTC includes for updates. The stock recovery won't flash anything but signed HTC update.zips either, which again you need the special sauce to sign. Custom recoveries like Amon RA or Clockwork remove the security and don't reference with the bootloader (since your phone has to be S-OFF anyways to flash a custom recovery.) A custom recovery is the key in flashing customs roms and kernels, if you can achieve it with the security on (S-ON) the you won't even have to worry about achieving S-OFF. However, that's near impossible due to the security in the bootloader HTC implements with updates. Which is why the bootloader has to be cracked to install anything.
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RUU
The RUU is an official tool HTC puts out so people can reflash there phone with a stock firmware just like if it is brand new and your turning it on for the first time. The files included inside of the RUU frontend include the PC36IMG which is essentially what is flashed in the process, but in a fancy way I guess you could put it. The same security applies to the RUU, you can't downgrade versions without S-OFF because the bootloader still checks the version on the phone currently to see if it can flash the PC36IMG or not (when security is on [S-ON] )
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APKS
I'm sure alot of you know of applications such as Visionary or Z4Root, they both use common exploits to root your phone in a simple application, first temp root then permanent root. They push the approiate resources, Superuser, su, busybox, set the permissions for everything to run, and clean up everything in the blink of an eye thanks to simple scripts. The same thing is still quite possible with any exploit, the exploit just has to be found in the software. You find the exploit you gain root. You have root you can do almost anything to your phone, but S-OFF still plays a role in everything with what you can and cannot flash. Sigh. I know right..
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Our Mission
The whole purpose of this thread is to collaborate on possible ways to obtain S-OFF and/or root on 2.3.3, either update. We are community, thus we must act like one, and not bash each other for trying. If you have a truthful idea or any questions feel free to post them. You never know, you could very well help with rooting the latest update. This has gone on far to long it's been almost 2 months and no root. This is our time to free each other from the chains of security because we all like to be dangerous sometimes.
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Possible Rooting Ideas

What Works What Doesn't
I encourage everyone to try previous rooting methods, and methods to obtain S-OFF and experiment as much as they feel comfortable with, you never know what you might find. We could be overlooking something.
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There is no right or wrong answer only better ones than others. Please do not bash users, or slander them for there ideas, everyone has a right to post, but please stay on topic. /end

Am I missing something?
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lil_bono said:
Am I missing something?
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Just give me a few, I'm still typing.
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<words>I'll be back on tomorrow, I'm going to go lay down and talk to my friend. Feel free to comment with any ideas. I, myself, am looking into and working very hard to achieve S-OFF and root for the 2.3.3 update, it will come in time. That's just the key; time.</words>

What other phones have you developed, alone or with a group, a rooting and/or s-off type process for? And I don't mean an app that uses an already known exploit such as rageagainstthecage.
I guess at least we have a fancy thread now. Best of luck to everyone.

ill jsut post a small snippet of thanks for thaking this initiative, i dont know about android os myself one bit, so i can hardly contribute, but would there be a way to "fool" the hboot or Ruu version number ?
either fooling the hboot into thinking the ruu one is trying to flash ( to downgrade of course) is a higher version one, or to somehow change the RUU itself to report a different version number? i realize this may sound incredibly stupid as my programming knowledge is very limited, but jst throwing it out there...
once again, thanks for taking this initiative for the evo 4g community

I was wondering if you could force the RUU update. We know it verifies the version on the phone, but surely to could still flash if it was forced. Sort of like doing an nvflash on the tablets. You'd just need to hack the RUU updater to skip the version check and flash anyway. Unfortunately, I'm not a cracker, so...

This should take off
There's a whole thread in Evo General full of ideas due to some kind of "bounty" to whomever achieves root on 2.3.3. At least we could get a start on what does/doesn't work. (This is not meant to deter traffic from this brainstorming thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162671

skatrwannabe3 said:
There's a whole thread in Evo General full of ideas due to some kind of "bounty" to whomever achieves root on 2.3.3. At least we could get a start on what does/doesn't work. (This is not meant to deter traffic from this brainstorming thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162671
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Hey, great idea. Just so you know, there is no "bounty" on rooting the ota. I dont even know where that term came from. I just started a thread to say that I am desperate for root, I will pay for someone to figure it out. I never asked anyone or expected anyone else to throw money in on it too. It has since grown into a 600+ dollar pot, and I think that its a good thing. The people that take the time to root it should get a pat on the back.
On topic: I see a bunch of people saying to downgrade, isnt temp root gonna come before that? Shouldnt temp root be the thing to focus on first?

I'm not much of a programmer but ill brick my phone as many times as needed lol
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github said:
What other phones have you developed, alone or with a group, a rooting and/or s-off type process for? And I don't mean an app that uses an already known exploit such as rageagainstthecage.
I guess at least we have a fancy thread now. Best of luck to everyone.
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I've personally never been the leader of a rooting or S-OFF project before, but my knowledge of Android on a whole is pretty vast. I do develop roms and kernels as well as themes and apps for Android in general, so I guess I'm pretty qualified?

fldash said:
I was wondering if you could force the RUU update. We know it verifies the version on the phone, but surely to could still flash if it was forced. Sort of like doing an nvflash on the tablets. You'd just need to hack the RUU updater to skip the version check and flash anyway. Unfortunately, I'm not a cracker, so...
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I'm not sure that the RUU is anything but a front end user interface for the process, the actual flashing and everything involves the bootloader, which is why it still pushes the PC36IMG temp. to the sdcard. It might however be in the RUU itself and using fastboot flashes? I'll look into it. Good idea, thanks.

Who rated the thread bad?

bubby323 said:
I'm not sure that the RUU is anything but a front end user interface for the process, the actual flashing and everything involves the bootloader, which is why it still pushes the PC36IMG temp. to the sdcard. It might however be in the RUU itself and using fastboot flashes? I'll look into it. Good idea, thanks.
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but does the RUU update the hboot itself?
the point is , older hboots and android software are already rooted, if we can get back to those , the end result is the same, we get root, then upgrade using a stock rooted rom, problem solved

bubby323 said:
What Works What Doesn't
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My recent failures attempts while on 4.24 S-On:
Amon_Ra Recovery PC36IMG.zip flashed from Hboot
Signed 3.70 PC36IMG.zip flashed from Hboot
Signed 4.24 PC36IMG.zip flashed from Hboot (it loads/updates, but is basically a factory reset)
3.70 RUU exe
UnrEVOked3

some chucklehead
bubby323 said:
Who rated the thread bad?
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Eh, I put in a 5 star vote to make it up, also to show the uselessness of voting.

Has anyone looked at the contents of a PC36IMG.zip? I am still decompliling one, but its a fun task to decipher all of the code. Another thing I need is for someone to tell me which files I should be looking for as far as HTC signing. What I would like to do is maybe strip it from the stock one, and insert it into a custom image.
Sent from the land of motorcycles!

Which stock Sensation XE rom has the least amount of bloatware?

Which stock Sensation XE rom has the least amount of bloatware?
The question pretty much sums it up. I just got a Sensation XE, Hong Kong model. It has a lot of crap software on it: youni sms, xda assistant, 通通电话，baidu, kuwo player, and all this other Chinese crap. I hate Chinese software with passion. If skynet was/is real, I believe it would be running a Chinese OS. Chinese software naturally tries to take over your computer or phone.
I want to switch to the stock rom with the least amount of junk on it. If it also has a good Chinese/English keyboard with handwriting input that is a plus.
Also, just to make sure I'm on the right track, this is what should be done before I can change roms, right?
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom

typci said:
Which stock Sensation XE rom has the least amount of bloatware?
The question pretty much sums it up. I just got a Sensation XE, Hong Kong model. It has a lot of crap software on it: youni sms, xda assistant, 通通电话，baidu, kuwo player, and all this other Chinese crap. I hate Chinese software with passion. If skynet was/is real, I believe it would be running a Chinese OS. Chinese software naturally tries to take over your computer or phone.
I want to switch to the stock rom with the least amount of junk on it. If it also has a good Chinese/English keyboard with handwriting input that is a plus.
Also, just to make sure I'm on the right track, this is what should be done before I can change roms, right?
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom
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the steps are fine ..but 3rd step is not required ...and 2)better have 4EXT recovery ..its better imho and between 4 and 5 there might be one more step ..which can only be decided after you told the current rom you are having (if running gb now ..for ICS you need to flash 3.32/3.33 firmware ..then ROM)
as for the ROM ..for simple STOCK like and fully customized with bloat removed ..try ARHD, insert coin or Elegancia

Hi,
If you go through the steps you mentioned:
1) Get S-off
2) Install Clockwork Mod (Try to get a PG58IMG.zip version of it, saves having to fastboot flash it)
3) Get permanent root
4) Write super cid
5) Change Stock Rom
You could stop at step3 and manuall delete stuff off the ROM you have. OR, what I'd probably do), and as mentioned you can skip step 3 if you're installing a new ROM. Go for a WWE (World Wide English) RUU if you want to keep completely Stock, you can then run ROMcleaner to remove some redundant crap.
Look for something like: RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.5_Radio_11.69. 3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_246089_signed.exe
It's ICS with Sense 3.6. The 401 in the above means it's WWE and will either need SuperCID (11111111) or HTC__001, it's completely unbranded.
You can find ROMcleaner at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217664

Thanks for the replies. I know I can root and then uninstall system apps. I don't really like doing that because you just don't know what else has been done to the rom. This Hong Kong rom won't let me use stock SMS (I know how to select default SMS program, it doesn't work on this rom) and doesn't have stock browser (it has some chinese version of Opera), is asking me if I want to invite my contacts to join all kinds of stupid networks, gets involved with my text messages, has some Chinese antivirus that keeps complaining, and all kinds of other crap. It's the worst rom I've ever seen. The WWE appears to be what I'm looking for. It's unbranded and shouldn't have carrier or region specific stuff. Youtube and other apps that don't ask me questions I can deal with.
I want root, for all of it's obvious benefits. I usually run stock, rooted and custom kernal with GPU overclock. But I'm not so sure I like sense, but I want to try a cleaner rom before I decide on sense.
I'm guessing I don't need to do the OTA update before I start the process. I also saw there were some special procedures for the latest ICS. I'll deal with that bridge when I get there. For now I just need a clean rom that doesn't bombard me with useless Chinese crap.

typci said:
Thanks for the replies. I know I can root and then uninstall system apps. I don't really like doing that because you just don't know what else has been done to the rom. This Hong Kong rom won't let me use stock SMS (I know how to select default SMS program, it doesn't work on this rom) or doesn't have stock browser (it has some chinese version of Opera), is asking me if I want to invite my contacts to join all kinds of stupid networks, gets involved with my text messages, has some Chinese antivirus that keeps complaining, and all kinds of other crap. It's the worst rom I've ever seen. The WWE appears to be what I'm looking for. It's unbranded and shouldn't have carrier or region specific stuff. Youtube and other apps that don't ask me questions I can deal with.
I want root, for all of it's obvious benefits. I usually run stock, rooted and custom kernal with GPU overclock. But I'm not so sure I like sense, but I want to try a cleaner rom before I decide on sense.
I'm guessing I don't need to do the OTA update before I start the process. I saw there were some special procedures for the latest ICS. I'll deal with that bridge when I get there. For now I just need a clean gingerbread that doesn't bombard me with useless Chinese crap.
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There are a few WWE GB ROMs out there, the one I mentioned is pretty slick as it's ICS which seems to work better IMHO.
The following is mentioned in post 1776 and there abouts in the following thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Pyramid
The OP has filefactory as the repository but it never worked for me so I gave up on it, looks like others had the same issue.
Just get a Europe one xxx.401.xxx. Avoid 1.24 if you want to go through OTA updates, I had issues with that, might have been me but .....
The ROMcleaner thing I mentioned is pretty good at removing the HTC extra stuff.
Of course, there are a few very nice custom ROMs out there. I was using Virtuous Inquisition (AOSP look and feel based on Sense but de-sensed as much as possible). I've not tried ARHD/IC and some of the others for a long time so can't comment on them.
Have fun and GL on your quest.
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P.S. after applying the RUU you'll need to re-install CWM (again easiest was is if you have a PG58IMG.zip version of it) and then apply the root. It looks like the best root at the moment is SuperSU (reading some posts here from EddyOS).

Thanks again. I'm downloading:
RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.105_R2_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_253443_signed.exe
Now that I look again the 3.33 version is available, I probably should have downloaded that.
I've already got: ADB drivers, HTC Sync, HTC driver, java, pg58img(recovery.img), CMW 5.0.2.0, revolutionary-0.4pre4, su-2.3.63-efgh, and the unbrick stuff in case something goes wrong. Once I finished downloading the firmware I should be ready to go. I'll double check that all the files are good, re-read all the instructional threads, and then get started. My phone doesn't have a warranty, so I have to make sure everything is done correctly the first time.
I also found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Will I need to flash this as well?
HTC phones are so much more complicated compared to the other phones I've rooted and flashed. On my Huawei phone you plugged the phone in to the computer, copied two files, and you were rooted and had CWM installed.

typci said:
Thanks again. I'm downloading:
RUU_PYRAMID_LE_ICS_35_S_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.105_R2_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_253443_signed.exe
Now that I look again the 3.33 version is available, I probably should have downloaded that.
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The 3.32 contains the 1.27.0000 HBOOT which can be unlocked (just done it myself). The 3.33 contains 1.29.0000 which at the moment cannot be unlocked.
As you're already S-OFF it probably doesn't make much difference. I'm on 3.32 at the moment, I don't know what the differences are between 3.32 & 3.33, I assume minor bug fixes.
I've already got: ADB drivers, HTC Sync, HTC driver, java, pg58img(recovery.img), CMW 5.0.2.0, revolutionary-0.4pre4, su-2.3.63-efgh, and the unbrick stuff in case something goes wrong. Once I finished downloading the firmware I should be ready to go. I'll double check that all the files are good, re-read all the instructional threads, and then get started. My phone doesn't have a warranty, so I have to make sure everything is done correctly the first time.
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Unless you go back to HBOOT 1.18.00 or earlier revolutionary can't help to S-OFF, as you're already S-OFF you shouldn't need it.
Does the PG58IMG.zip you mention contain CWM 5.0.2.0 ?, I usually keep a copy about called PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip, then change the name when I want to install it. The reason I ask is that PG58IMG.zip is a generic name and can be used for many things. You'll need to pop the uSD card when it asks you to reboot.
As far as SU is concerned, look at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I also found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
Will I need to flash this as well?
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No the RUU is self contained and includes the firmware/radio. You might want to install HBOOT 1.27.0011 afterwards, IRC it allows fastboot commands. I think it's in that thread.
HTC phones are so much more complicated compared to the other phones I've rooted and flashed. On my Huawei phone you plugged the phone in to the computer, copied two files, and you were rooted and had CWM installed.
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I know HTC seemed to have created hassles. I had an early Sensation and waiting for someone to work out how to S-OFF was a real pain.
GL
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REMEMBER to take a nandroid backup before you start, just in case ! Also remember that nandroid backups don't include HBOOT or Radio so if you need to revert you'd need to get them. Take a note of the existing baseband/radio & HBOOT.

gol_n_dal said:
Does the PG58IMG.zip you mention contain CWM 5.0.2.0 ?, I usually keep a copy about called PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip, then change the name when I want to install it. The reason I ask is that PG58IMG.zip is a generic name and can be used for many things. You'll need to pop the uSD card when it asks you to reboot
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I found the PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip file you were talking about. I like that idea better.
gol_n_dal said:
REMEMBER to take a nandroid backup before you start, just in case ! Also remember that nandroid backups don't include HBOOT or Radio so if you need to revert you'd need to get them. Take a note of the existing baseband/radio & HBOOT.
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Good point. I'll add that to the list of steps so I don't forget.
1) Setup ADB/fastboot
2) Get S-off
3) Install Clockwork Mod
4) Backup via CWM!!!!
5) Get permanent root
6) Write super cid
7) Change Stock Rom
Unfortunately the rom didn't download correctly, so looks like I won't be installing the rom tonight.

typci said:
I found the PG58IMG-CWM5020.zip file you were talking about. I like that idea better.
Good point. I'll add that to the list of steps so I don't forget.
1) Setup ADB/fastboot
2) Backup via ADB!!!!
3) Get S-off
4) Install Clockwork Mod
5) Backup via CWM!!!!
6) Get permanent root
7) Write super cid
8) Change Stock Rom
Unfortunately the rom didn't download correctly, so looks like I won't be installing the rom tonight.
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The nandroid backup is via ClockworkMod, not certain what you're backing up through ADB/fastboot. Guess you could get Radio/Recovery etc. Never tried it myself, I like a simple life
There is no point applying SuperSU until after you have installed the new Stock ROM. You can change the CID directly with fastboot, it doesn't need root for that.
Shame about the download, at least the steps look about right.
Eek, I thought you already had S-OFF ? What HBOOT are you on at the moment ? If it's 1.18.0000 or earlier revolutionary.io is perfect, if it's later it's a different process.
Note that when you install the new stock rom via RUUxxxx.exe, it'll splat the custom recovery so it'll need to be re-applied.

Umm, I booted into HBOOT to get my HBOOT version and at the top of the screen it says:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT 1.17.008
RADIO-10.11.9007.15_M
That mean I already had S-OFF, right? Well that was easy.
Actually the phone was smuggled into China to avoid taxes. The sellers probably had to get S-OFF to put a Chinese language rom on there. Which also would explain all the extra bloatware, probably was installed by the same people.
Also, I wasn't able to pull the images through ADB. Have to wait until after rooted.
UPDATE: Installed CWM, backing up now, then root. So far so good. I'll probably have to settle for using Titanium Backup to remove the unwanted apps for now. The second try at downloading the RUU also failed.
UPDATE: Rooted, through it probably was already rooted. Also checked the CID and it was already 11111111. Thanks Chinese smugglers. You did all the work for me. Now to finish uninstalling all the crap you put on my phone.
So actually, the only work I did was install the SU and backup my system.

Nice to see it going smoothly for you, and remember if you want to install ics, you need to flash a ics firmware 3.32 or 3.33. Or you'll be in a boot loop.
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typci said:
Umm, I booted into HBOOT to get my HBOOT version and at the top of the screen it says:
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT 1.17.008
RADIO-10.11.9007.15_M
That mean I already had S-OFF, right? Well that was easy.
Actually the phone was smuggled into China to avoid taxes. The sellers probably had to get S-OFF to put a Chinese language rom on there. Which also would explain all the extra bloatware, probably was installed by the same people.
Also, I wasn't able to pull the images through ADB. Have to wait until after rooted.
UPDATE: Installed CWM, backing up now, then root. So far so good. I'll probably have to settle for using Titanium Backup to remove the unwanted apps for now. The second try at downloading the RUU also failed.
UPDATE: Rooted, through it probably was already rooted. Also checked the CID and it was already 11111111. Thanks Chinese smugglers. You did all the work for me. Now to finish uninstalling all the crap you put on my phone.
So actually, the only work I did was install the SU and backup my system.
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LOL
As you say that was easy.
There are other sites that you can download 3.32.401 from as it's fairly common, have a look.
As you have a nandroid backup that you can recover back to if needed you can also try ROMcleaner.
I'm going to try a Jelly Bean ROM tomorrow so my nandroid backup will be vital )
A really nice fairly lightweight ROM is Virtuous Inquisition. As I said it's AOSP look and feel but has Sense backend, it's been de-sensed as much as possible.
Anyway Have Fun.

flare4000 said:
Nice to see it going smoothly for you, and remember if you want to install ics, you need to flash a ics firmware 3.32 or 3.33. Or you'll be in a boot loop.
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I downloaded 3.32 Europe RUU. I plan to install that tonight after work.

typci said:
I downloaded 3.32 Europe RUU. I plan to install that tonight after work.
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The RUU will contain everything you need and update firmware, Radio, Recovery, HBOOT, ..... and of course the ROM.
Remember it'll flatten the ROM so all saved messages, WiFi details etc. will be lost.
If for some reason you need to revert back to your existing ROM you'll need to downgrade the firmware to 1.17.0008, including the radio. I doubt you'll bother though when you're on 3.32.

help
Does Anyone Have
RUU PYRAMID hTC Asia WWE 1.77.708.148
???

rafael1369 said:
Does Anyone Have
RUU PYRAMID hTC Asia WWE 1.77.708.148
???
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1. Don't double post, you posted this somewhere else as well.
2. Go and look in Football's Shipped ROM Collection thread.
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help
I know but it's urgent
how I can upgrade my frimware to3.33.x???
I have install dark forest without upgrade my frimware but my device still in htc logo
s-on
with touch recovery
and rooted
please help mee

If it's that urgent you should spend time familiarize yourself with the search button. There is Asskicker's guide how to flash roms with s-on in the general forum. Plus I gave you a link to RUU's in the other thread you posted in.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e

matekaneve said:
If it's that urgent you should spend time familiarize yourself with the search button. There is Asskicker's guide how to flash roms with s-on in the general forum. Plus I gave you a link to RUU's in the other thread you posted in.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
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Hi
I dont understand what u saied??
What can I do?

[Q] Bought a rooted phone by accident, in over my head

First android phone it's a AT&T One X, i'll be using it on the Bell network. Got a good deal on Kijiji and I didn't ask enough questions apparently, lol.
The phone is clearly not stock, took me several hours to piece that together. I get it, I'm a noob. I can tell it's running Cleanrom 4.5. I want to get it back to something close to stock. I plan to learn all about rooting/roms but I want to do it from a vanilla phone so that I get to actually do it myself.
I googled and found a tutorial (link). I deleted the 'su' file and superuser.apk. I followed the rest of the steps and it didn't seem to do anything, just rebooted back into cleanrom.
I kept googling and now I'm following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859714
I guess i'm going to flash from an RUU now ? My CID is 11111111, so I've read that means I have superCID and any RUU will work. I want to get to JB eventually, so can I just flash direct to the Europe 3.14 JB from HTCRUU? Or go with one of the ICS versions?
Am I doing this right?

No no no!
Edit: still writing but wanted to say don't flash that ruu
If you want completely stock you need to use fast boot and boot into hboot and run fastboot OEM lock
(You may need to search around to learn how do that)
Then run this ruu. http://beta.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390077933525139511
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that is for the wrong phone
only place you should look at is here AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Its good your asking the questions now if you want to go completely stock run an ruu which means relicking the bootloader and running it ill link you to some guides in a sec
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Oh and like others said don't use that ruu! We have the one XL

cleanrom 4.5 is pretty good and close to stock but adds quick settings, debloated, power menu and some other tweaks. i would keep it how it is and just learn about how custom roms work. you can learn how to use twrp in its current state and maybe learn how to use some root apps.
just so you know your phone is the evita not the endeavoru.

Thanks for the replies.
I haven't tried flashing anything yet so don't worry. I'm taking it slow.
I've already been into fastboot. Figured that out because it was a required step in the guides I said I was trying to use. I have all the drivers installed and I'm able to talk to the phone via fastboot at the comand prompt.
LOL, thanks for letting me know my phone is Evita. I guess I can delete the 600mb RUU I downloaded
I'm a little unclear about HBOOT vs. fastboot. I can get into the bootloader and go to the fastboot USB mode... is this analogous to HBOOT?
So my steps right now are:
1) Download correct RUU, Evita 2.20 ICS - I've also seen people discussing 1.85 vs 2.20, why chose one over another?
2) fastboot oem lock
3) Install RUU while phone is in bootloader mode
That right?

I would strongly suggest to slow down, and learn more about what root is and means, before going back stock. Root is just a change in permissions. You gain absolutely nothing by unrooting, and lose quite a bit. You lose the ability to do all sorts of mods to your phone, flash custom ROMs, use apps that require root like Adaway and Titanium Backup (and many others), remove carrier bloatware, activate tethering, and much more.
People have gone through great pains to find root methods for our device (and other Android devices). Many come on here looking for these root methods, for the awesome benefits that root means. I've seen very few, if any, people before you that have said "crap I accidentally got a rooted device, and don't want root". Think about that one for a while.
Plus, CleanROM 4.5 is already based on a more updated firmware version than any of the official AT&T RUUs. Plus it includes a lot of cool features and optimizations. Again, going from CleanROM to stock is a step backwards, not forwards, and you are gaining nothing, and losing quite a bit. Another thing about CleanROM, is that it is devoid of the AT&T bloatware (and there is a lot). Keep in mind that on the stock AT&T ROM, the bloat is not removable without root, so you are stuck with quite a few crappy apps that you will never use. That alone is a huge reason to have a rooted device. Also bear in mind that stock AT&T does not allow tethering (unless you have a data plan that allows it) and has other stock HTC apps (like FM radio) disabled. These cannot be enabled unless you have root.
Another thing, is that you will not get Jellybean any faster on stock than rooted. While its true that rooted, this phone will not be able to take the OTA when it rolls out (hasn't happened yet). But a stock rooted JB firmware will almost certainly be posted here on XDA, that is safely flashable on a rooted device. This often happens within a couple days of the OTA starting to roll out, if not faster. Sometimes even before the OTA, as sometimes the official RUUs get leaked before the OTA. All it takes is for a dev to get his hands on the files, apply root, and upload it here. Learning how to flash such a file to your device is very simple. Not much more than: download the file to your phone, boot into recovery, and press "install". So yet again, stock gains nothing over being rooted.
While its true that root is not for everyone. But if you've already found this place, and learned what things like RUU, bootloader, and fastboot are, then you probably already know more than most folks do about Android. You may feel in over your head, but it really just takes a few hours of reading to learn the fundamentals. And with that knowledge, you can do so much more with your phone than you can without root.

redpoint73 said:
I would strongly suggest to slow down, and learn more about what root is and means, before going back stock. Root is just a change in permissions. You gain absolutely nothing by unrooting, and lose quite a bit....
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I appreciate the advice, thanks. To be clear, eventually I will probably bring the device back to where it is now. I've used linux before so I have an understanding of the permissions system and the added benefits of root.
My goal here is to get the phone back to stock so that I can learn the rooting/flashing process from the start, not the end. I understand why that might seem counterintuitive but I'm a very hands on person and I'll learn more of the theory by walking through the process than reading about how somebody else hacked this device to get where it is now.
Sure I'm making extra work for myself but I know what im getting into.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

echoboomer said:
I appreciate the advice, thanks. To be clear, eventually I will probably bring the device back to where it is now. I've used linux before so I have an understanding of the permissions system and the added benefits of root.
My goal here is to get the phone back to stock so that I can learn the rooting/flashing process from the start, not the end. I understand why that might seem counterintuitive but I'm a very hands on person and I'll learn more of the theory by walking through the process than reading about how somebody else hacked this device to get where it is now.
Sure I'm making extra work for myself but I know what im getting into.
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You should have said so from the start, then. This pretty much negates everything I just typed above.
Its admirable that you want to learn the process from scratch, and its the opposite attitude of most n00bs here.
My advice, as another mentioned above, is stick to XDA, and don't follow instructions from random Googled sites. Most of those sites don't clearly delineate between our phone (Snapdragon S4) and the international (Tegra3) version, and following instructions for the international version is a great way to brick your phone.
Other than that, lock the bootloader, run the RUU, and have fun. Also check your hboot version. If its anything but 1.14, don't run the 2.20 RUU. You will want the 1.73 or 1.85 RUU instead, as the 2.20 RUU will update the hboot to 1.14, which plugs the holes by which boot.img and radios can be flashed from recovery. Unless you want to create ever MORE work for yourself, as the hboot can be downgraded using a Linux computer, lol!
Be sure to check out my index thread, as most anything you will need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237

Thanks, sounds like I'm on the right track.
Also check back to my OP, I did say that I wanted to learn the whole process but I wanted to do it from stock. sorry you typed all that out but in sure it will help some other noob down the line.
Last thing, 1.85 vs 2.20?
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ChummyDays said:
2.20 has the new hboot, and that means that you have to extract the boot.IMG out of the ROM and flash it through fast boot. With 1.85 you just flash the ROM.
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Cool thanks, I found a tutorial last night on how to extract boot.IMG from the ruu exe. I think I'm good to go.
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You might be confused. You shouldn't have to pull a boot.img from an RUU typically, only from a custom ROM zip. And only if you are on boot 1.14.
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Probably confused. Here's what I see in the boot loader.
***
Tampered
Unlocked
Evita PVT Ship S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.09.0000
Radio-0.19as.32.09.09_L
OpenDSP-v28.1.0.32.0504
eMMC-boot
***
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echoboomer said:
HBOOT-1.09.0000
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This is what you want to see, and why you need to be sure to use the 1.85 RUU.

Picking up the pieces, need a confirmation.

After reading countless threads about RUUing or OTAing to the 3.18 Jellybean software, I think I know what everything means. But just to be safe, I want to confirm some things before I try anything. I have never been on a stock firmware other than when I got my phone, and it came on the 2.20 ICS software.
1. I used the SuperCID method to unlock my bootloader. I've read that having SuperCID will screw up the update to jellybean. But, I've also read that having s-off will bypass the CID check when updating, making the update work normally.
My phone has a CID of 1111111 (SuperCID), and is also s-off. Does this mean if I flash back to a stock ICS rom and OTA up to jellybean, everything will be alright? After all of the info I've sifted through, my personal answer is 'yes, everything will work.'
2. If I do proceed with an update to JB, will I still have S-off and/or a root? I've looked at the facepalm s-off thread under the Original Development section, and see no mention of a compatibility or incompatibility with Jellybean. This is the first HTC device I've ever owned, so I'm not as familiar with s-off as some of you may be. I did find this from searching the s-off thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38197741
If I recall correctly, I was running Viper XL when I s-off'd. It was a jellybean firmware at that time, probably built from the jellybean stock firmware. My personal answer to the question is 'yes, I will still be s-off, but I still don't know about a root.'
As far as a root goes, I'm at a loss of what to look for. I don't see a thread dedicated to a jellybean root, but then again, I'm not as well rounded with troubleshooting as others.
Sent from my HTC One XL using Tapatalk 2

S-off will stick until you manually undo it. Whether you ruu, flash roms, whatever. Only way to lose s-off is to do fastboot oem setsecurityflag 3. Root is software so it's set within the rom. All the custom roms have root by default. With an unlocked bootloader any rom that doesn't have root can have root by flashing su. Consider root as having administrator on windows. If you don't have windows installed there's no administrative access to have right? Hence it doesn't stick but is built into the roms you flash.
S-off eliminates security checks so you you can ruu, flash anything and there won't be any checks that say hey, this isn't the right device or hey, this bootloader is unlocked, you can't ruu..
Just make sure not to flash anything not intended for the evita.
Hopefully this makes sense.
If you have any other questions, do not hesitate to ask.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

exad said:
S-off will stick until you manually undo it. Whether you ruu, flash roms, whatever. Only way to lose s-off is to do fastboot oem setsecurityflag 3. Root is software so it's set within the rom. All the custom roms have root by default. With an unlocked bootloader any rom that doesn't have root can have root by flashing su. Consider root as having administrator on windows. If you don't have windows installed there's no administrative access to have right? Hence it doesn't stick but is built into the roms you flash.
S-off eliminates security checks so you you can ruu, flash anything and there won't be any checks that say hey, this isn't the right device or hey, this bootloader is unlocked, you can't ruu..
Just make sure not to flash anything not intended for the evita.
Hopefully this makes sense.
If you have any other questions, do not hesitate to ask.
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Thanks, this pretty much answered all of my questions so if I just wanted a rooted stock rom, I would just follow the steps in the root guide that involve pushing and installing the su binary, and ignore the extra ones that involve changing the CID?
I can't seem to find any links to stock rooted for ICS (it's a preference to me over JB, sorry ) anymore. My thoughts were to run the 2.20 RUU and root it, which seems like a valid option based on your response
Sent from my HTC One XL using Tapatalk 2

Ics is obsolete. If you really want stock rooted Ics.
You're correct.
Run an ics ruu
Flash twrp, flash su
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tyessen said:
My phone has a CID of 1111111 (SuperCID), and is also s-off. Does this mean if I flash back to a stock ICS rom and OTA up to jellybean, everything will be alright? After all of the info I've sifted through, my personal answer is 'yes, everything will work.'
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If the goal is JB, then I'd recommend the JB RUU, rather than the OTA. RUU is a much cleaner and problem-free install.
'yes, everything will work' is a bit too presumptive to me. You can never be sure that everything will be okay. Modding your phone always has its risks, even under the safest of circumstances. But S-off will prevent the particular case of a (virtually guaranteed) brick caused by installing the RUU or OTA with SuperCID + S-on.

redpoint73 said:
If the goal is JB, then I'd recommend the JB RUU, rather than the OTA. RUU is a much cleaner and problem-free install.
'yes, everything will work' is a bit too presumptive to me. You can never be sure that everything will be okay. Modding your phone always has its risks, even under the safest of circumstances. But S-off will prevent the particular case of a (virtually guaranteed) brick caused by installing the RUU or OTA with SuperCID + S-on.
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I didn't mean everything as in it will be right out of the box, no errors or problems by that, sorry. I meant that the flash/RUU would complete successfully and I would be running a stock firmware again.
And like I said, I've never ran the official JB firmware, so I'll give it a try and see how the battery holds out. I know ICS had a much better life than other JB custom roms out there, but then again, custom means extra (most of the time).
So, maybe I'll just head straight for the jellybean RUU instead. My only concern is that the h-boot would update, and that sets off a little flag in my head with s-off problems (even though it was confirmed it would stay in place until I manually went back to s-on).
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tyessen said:
I didn't mean everything as in it will be right out of the box, no errors or problems by that, sorry. I meant that the flash/RUU would complete successfully and I would be running a stock firmware again.
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Again, I would never assume that everything will be "completely successful". Even running the RUU under safest of circumstances has its risks. People have bricked their phones running the RUU with a completely stock device. However, its very unlikely.
S-off removes the particular issue of a near automatic brick if you have SuperCID and S-on. There should be no other particular high risk factors, that are currently known and within your control (which is what I think you are trying to get at). You will most likely be okay. But its impossible to remove all risk. Anything that updates hboot and radio has the risk of bricking the device, if it everything does not go exactly right. But aside from being sure you don't mess with the phone or computer while its flashing, its just an unlikely random event, outside of your control.
tyessen said:
And like I said, I've never ran the official JB firmware, so I'll give it a try and see how the battery holds out. I know ICS had a much better life than other JB custom roms out there, but then again, custom means extra (most of the time).
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I would not jump to the conclusion that ICS has better battery life JB (custom or otherwise). I'd say that quite a few people have had better battery life on JB. There are lots of variables at play. Simply RUUing to the newer radio might improve your battery life. Or might even make it worse.
Battery life is always better experienced for yourself, rather than taking for granted what you read from others.

Upgrading from 4.4.2

Hi,
I'm still on 4.4.2 and wish to backup, S-OFF, root, and upgrade to 5.x (open to trying a custom ROM). I'm completely new to this and have a couple questions:
In what order should things be done? My guess is the order listed above?
Can I just follow the instructions in the stickies (firewater, etc), or are they out of date?
If upgrading to a non-Sense ROM, will software (camera, sound, etc) work as well?
If you have any tips/suggestions/advice/things you wish you'd known, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

1.Go here.
Download APP/EXE version (which i did).
Follow the instruction & flash the exe ruu.If you encounter problem when flashing,just flash this latest hboot & reflash the app exe ruu.Do this only if you encount with any flashing error.
Let it reboot.That's all .
2.No matter which rom you are flasing SENSE or SENSLESS,just flash the latest firmware first.Then you can flash any rom.

Before you go loading RUUs I would recommend turning s-off first. For that you have to use sunshine. Firewater is discontinued and won't work even if you have the files. You would have to run sunshine BEFORE upgrading to lollipop because it hasn't (yet) been updated to work on the lollipop update. Hope this isn't too late of advice.

Caspid said:
Hi,
I'm still on 4.4.2 and wish to backup, S-OFF, root, and upgrade to 5.x (open to trying a custom ROM). I'm completely new to this and have a couple questions:
Can I just follow the instructions in the stickies (firewater, etc), or are they out of date?
If upgrading to a non-Sense ROM, will software (camera, sound, etc) work as well?
If you have any tips/suggestions/advice/things you wish you'd known, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
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Hi,
Follow this xda thread to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/general/guide-how-to-root-10-5-1-0-283-t2872873.
After rooting, install NUT's dual recovery. Then download pre-rooted zip for Android 5.0.2 from development section and flash through revovery.
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SurenderK said:
Hi,
Follow this xda thread to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/general/guide-how-to-root-10-5-1-0-283-t2872873.
After rooting, install NUT's dual recovery. Then download pre-rooted zip for Android 5.0.2 from development section and flash through revovery.
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These instructions are for a different phone. It's the same for the M8?
cntryby429 said:
Before you go loading RUUs I would recommend turning s-off first. For that you have to use sunshine. Firewater is discontinued and won't work even if you have the files. You would have to run sunshine BEFORE upgrading to lollipop because it hasn't (yet) been updated to work on the lollipop update. Hope this isn't too late of advice.
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What, really? Even for 4.4.2? I thought sunshine was only required for later versions.

Caspid said:
These instructions are for a different phone. It's the same for the M8?
What, really? Even for 4.4.2? I thought sunshine was only required for later versions.
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So I don't know what that guy is talking about. Steer clear of that advice.
The only way to unlock the bootloader of a Verizon m8 is sunshine and it also turns s-off which is sweet. Firewater worked for older versions, I actually used it myself many months ago. Shortly after sunshine released for the m8 they turned off the online part of Firewater. Sunshine does cost $25 but I donated more than that as a thanks for Firewater, it seems fair.
Once s-off you will be able to do pretty much whatever you want, flash recovery (which can then flash custom roms), upgrade firmware, downgrade firmware, flash radios, etc. However this also means that you can brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing. Definitely don't go following instructions instructions for another phone.
It you don't mind sense, flashing doddat's stock rooted RUU is a one step process and you're done.
If you want bloat removed, the ability to make nandroid, and the many features of custom roms then you need to flash TWRP recovery and you can go to town. If you want bloat removed then there are some pretty good sense based roms. I ran viper Rom for a while and was pretty happy. Then there's gpe and cm based roms. As far as I know most are pretty bug free.
Just be careful. Like I said, s-off allows you to do both awesome and detrimental things to your phone. Know what you're doing, how to do it, and most importantly how to undo it before you do anything.

cntryby429 said:
So I don't know what that guy is talking about. Steer clear of that advice.
The only way to unlock the bootloader of a Verizon m8 is sunshine and it also turns s-off which is sweet. Firewater worked for older versions, I actually used it myself many months ago. Shortly after sunshine released for the m8 they turned off the online part of Firewater. Sunshine does cost $25 but I donated more than that as a thanks for Firewater, it seems fair.
Once s-off you will be able to do pretty much whatever you want, flash recovery (which can then flash custom roms), upgrade firmware, downgrade firmware, flash radios, etc. However this also means that you can brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing. Definitely don't go following instructions instructions for another phone.
It you don't mind sense, flashing doddat's stock rooted RUU is a one step process and you're done.
If you want bloat removed, the ability to make nandroid, and the many features of custom roms then you need to flash TWRP recovery and you can go to town. If you want bloat removed then there are some pretty good sense based roms. I ran viper Rom for a while and was pretty happy. Then there's gpe and cm based roms. As far as I know most are pretty bug free.
Just be careful. Like I said, s-off allows you to do both awesome and detrimental things to your phone. Know what you're doing, how to do it, and most importantly how to undo it before you do anything.
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So instead of making a new thread my question is similar to the guys above. I am on 4.4.2 but already have S-off and root, TWRP installed etc. I have had the phone since launch and have been happy enough to not worry about updating or changing anything too much.
Anyhow, I am now interested in updated, I read a few months ago that 4.4.2 should update to 4.4.3 before going to 4.4.4. Is this still the case if I only want to go to 4.4.4? Still the case if I go all the way up to 5.0.1?
Second, apologies if the answer is the same as above but I just want to be sure I am clear, I am s-off already, will I need sunshine moving forward for after I updated? Or since I am s-off already will I stay that way and be able to root without any additional steps after updating?

Resputan said:
So instead of making a new thread my question is similar to the guys above. I am on 4.4.2 but already have S-off and root, TWRP installed etc. I have had the phone since launch and have been happy enough to not worry about updating or changing anything too much.
Anyhow, I am now interested in updated, I read a few months ago that 4.4.2 should update to 4.4.3 before going to 4.4.4. Is this still the case if I only want to go to 4.4.4? Still the case if I go all the way up to 5.0.1?
Second, apologies if the answer is the same as above but I just want to be sure I am clear, I am s-off already, will I need sunshine moving forward for after I updated? Or since I am s-off already will I stay that way and be able to root without any additional steps after updating?
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I recall that idea of necessary incremental upgrades being passed around for my previous HTC device, the Rezound. I suspect that it's not true although I certainly don't know enough to support that statement. My suspicion is that if you were to flash any of the RUUs which were posted by dottat you will successfully boot any of our official software versions regardless of what version you're coming from. This presumes the prerequisite that you're s-off in order to permit downgrading (if you choose) and/or use of some of his s-off-required RUUs. With as full-proof as those RUUs seem to be, the worst case scenario is that your device bootloops requiring another RUU. I don't know that you're at all too much risk of bricking your phone provided you are flashing files that are meant for your exact model (be weary of flashing international/AT&T RUUs and such to a verizon phone) and are following instructions.
Regarding sunshine, as long as you don't issue specific fastboot commands to relock the bootloader or turn s-on, then you should have no further use for Sunshine. The only reason I can see someone taking updates incrementally is if they want to take them OTA. However, if you're s-off then I would highly recommend just using an RUU. None of the RUUs or firmware update zips will relock the bootloader or turn s-on. I can think of very few reasons to do either of those with the exception of returning to full stock for a warranty return. I believe that all of the RUUs will restore stock recovery, but since they don't relock the bootloader, you can always just flash back your custom recovery via fastboot or bootloader and re-root your stock rom. Alternatively, once you have a custom recovery you can flash any one of the many custom roms which will almost certainly come pre-rooted.

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