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Is there interest in a script to S-Off and flash stock ATT Rom?

So most of the guides here to flash Desire ROMs, or use cooked ROMs didn't appeal to me, and I don't think that a one-click root in the sense of a new exploit and leaving the rest of your phone intact will exist soon.
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
This leaves you at a point that I believe is back to stock with the only difference being S-OFF is on.
Then you can:
Remove Bloat (Rooting Not required, use psneuter)
Root if you want w/(no clockwork)
Install Clockwork
etc.
Is there any interest in this before I write something up?
Sorry if I missed this already and this thread can be delete if it has been covered
Thanks!

Both the hack kit and bubbys GUI will do this for you. Please check in one of those threads. Thanks.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.

Bubbys doesnt, it flashes a cooked rom I thought?

Cooked as in rooted AT&T stock. Either way, you can flash a rooted stock easy enough after you root. Try those threads. You'll get help. No need to start a new one. Good luck.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.

Thanks, I am already all set and rooted, not asking for help, just wanted to know if anyone else was interested in S-off and NOT rooting This leaves you in the position to easily root, add clockwork etc.
But yeah, mods go ahead and delete this thread, sorry!

real4g said:
Thanks, I am already all set and rooted, not asking for help, just wanted to know if anyone else was interested in S-off and NOT rooting
But yeah, mods go ahead and delete this thread, sorry!
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If you want s-off and "not" be rooted just flash back using the ruu. The ruu will remove root but radio security will remain off.
Ohhh...you meant this to be a reference. Gotcha

lrs421 said:
If you want s-off and "not" be rooted just flash back using the ruu. The ruu will remove root but radio security will remain off.
Ohhh...you meant this to be a reference. Gotcha
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Yep, yeah I already wrote a something, so after you have a gold card, all you have to do is run this script I wrote and it will wipe your phone and s-off it with stock rom all via adb. Then there is a second script to root the phone. and another to remove bloat.
The only manual interaction is creating a gold card and making sure debug mode is enabled.
I prefer to customize my own stock roms, not that I don't appreciate others work!

Well...This does sound interesting.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.

real4g said:
So most of the guides here to flash Desire ROMs, or use cooked ROMs didn't appeal to me, and I don't think that a one-click root in the sense of a new exploit and leaving the rest of your phone intact will exist soon.
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
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Really? You downgraded the radio without flashing a downgrade DHD ROM?
My BS detector is going off, especially since you are saying you flashed back a stock att rom. With any of the current methods of doing this, you are free to flash whatever you like when you are done and you can achieve exactly what you say you are trying to.
Please be clear - you are doing exactly what's already being done - except you are skipping the root/clockwork steps. In order to downgrade the radio, it must be in an HTC signed zip file, and if you had one with only the radio, there would be no need to flash back the RUU. That's needed because you did a full downgrade, not just a radio downgrade.

attn1 said:
Really? You downgraded the radio without flashing a downgrade DHD ROM?
My BS detector is going off, especially since you are saying you flashed back a stock att rom. With any of the current methods of doing this, you are free to flash whatever you like when you are done and you can achieve exactly what you say you are trying to.
Please be clear - you are doing exactly what's already being done - except you are skipping the root/clockwork steps. In order to downgrade the radio, it must be in an HTC signed zip file, and if you had one with only the radio, there would be no need to flash back the RUU. That's needed because you did a full downgrade, not just a radio downgrade.
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Nope, you are right, I miss-spoke, its a full downgrade.

real4g said:
All I really wanted was S-OFF and Root.
Going through all the different packages others had released I did this with my new phone:
Created Gold Card
downgraded radio
s-off, sim-unlock, etc
flash back stock att rom with RUU tool (Guess I can extract it and flash via SDCARD)
This leaves you at a point that I believe is back to stock with the only difference being S-OFF is on.
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I have actually done this part. exactly as you mention. Now I would like to Root this stock ROM manually, rather than flash a pre-rooted ROM. I want to do this purely for experience so that I can gain a better understanding of the system and the process. I have not been able to find any real guidance for doing this as everything seems to be focused on creating and flashing pre-rooted roms.
Is it possible to root this stock ROM once you have S-OFF? or do you need to flash a pre-rooted ROM? Any guidance you might have will be much appreciated.

I would be interested in seeing the script just to see how you have done it

[Q] Thing I must know before I purchase a HOX

So Guys black friday is around the corner and I plan to upgrade from my dated HTC Aria. I'm obviously looking at the HOX and the S3 and just by personal preference am leaning towards the HOX (ATT version). However what is really worrying me is that the HOX seems to be locked down quite a bit. I'm not a dev or anything I just want to be able to flash custom rom and experience senseless android in jellybean. So I have some questions...
1) If I buy a HOX with the 2.02 version what are my options rooting wise or am I just screwed?
2) I'm coming from a rooted Aria where rom flashing was easy with clockworkmod recovery. I been lurking this forum and it seems like a painful process now and what is this boot.img thing.
3) Also if anyone isn't to annoyed by my lack of knowledge could you explain what the "S-ON/S-OFF" is as well as the limitation with the fact that HTC locked the boot loader?
I like the HOX but am getting scared away by the fact that this phone is so locked up.

sunny342 said:
So Guys black friday is around the corner and I plan to upgrade from my dated HTC Aria. I'm obviously looking at the HOX and the S3 and just by personal preference am leaning towards the HOX (ATT version). However what is really worrying me is that the HOX seems to be locked down quite a bit. I'm not a dev or anything I just want to be able to flash custom rom and experience senseless android in jellybean. So I have some questions...
1) If I buy a HOX with the 2.02 version what are my options rooting wise or am I just screwed?
2) I'm coming from a rooted Aria where rom flashing was easy with clockworkmod recovery. I been lurking this forum and it seems like a painful process now and what is this boot.img thing.
3) Also if anyone isn't to annoyed by my lack of knowledge could you explain what the "S-ON/S-OFF" is as well as the limitation with the fact that HTC locked the boot loader?
I like the HOX but am getting scared away by the fact that this phone is so locked up.
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First off, when you get it rooted... DONT FLASH ICJ.
Second, when you get it downgrade you hboot via the JET tool or manually through the WIP Unbrick evita thread by Absolutelygrim. Then in the JET tool thread, you'll find a way to RUU down grade. Choose 1.85 Then you won't have to worry about flashing the boot.img in fastboot. All that is, is a way to bypass AT&T's safe gaurd programming. They tried to make it so the boot.img couldn't be formed in recovery. That's only with the 2.20 firmware though.
Third, IDK. I'm still learning why S-OFF is like gold. Someone else might be able to answer that one but, not me.

1) 2.20 firmware is fully rootable, and has been for a few weeks now. Worries about there not being a root method for 2.20 are outdated, and no longer apply.
2) First off, CWM is not recommended for this device. It never officially supported the Snapdragon S4 variant, and was just a port, with serious known issues. A different custom recovery, TWRP is recommended, and works great.
With the 1.14 hboot that comes with the 2.20 firmware, the hole by which boot.img was flashed via recovery was plugged. So whenever you flash a new ROM, you need to extract boot.img from the ROM zip, and flash it separately via fastboot (phone connected to your PC). Or as previously mentioned, you can downgrade the hboot to eliminate this step.
Aside from that, flashing ROMs on TWRP is just as easy as CWM on your Aria (once you have bootloader unlocked and TWRP installed).
3) S-Off means all security off. It hasn't yet been achieved yet on this device. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can flash ROMs and other mods. With a downgraded hboot, you can flash radios. So there isn't much that S-Off would give you, that isn't already possible. Being able to get SIM unlock for free might be possible with S-Off, as well as turning off the warning flag that the bootloader was unlocked. But for the most part, that is really it. For most uses, S-Off simply is not needed. S-On and bootloader unlock fulfills most needs.
All that said, are you aware the One X+ is being released by AT&T tomorrow? It features a slightly faster CPU/GPU and much more internal storage. Unless you are on a budget, that is probably the phone I would go for at this point. But I think it also remains to be seen about root and bootloader unlock for the One X+.

Another aria convert, yay. As stated above, you shouldn't have any concerns about this device. TWRP is actually much easier to use than CWM. The flashing boot.IMG separately is something you won't need to do once you downgrade the firmware.
And as said above, I'd just get a one x+ if I had the money. We only get 9.93GB of SD storage space on this phone.
Sent from my HTC One XL

Hello guys, i am also thinking about getting this phone, but i've been searching this forum and it seems that flashing ROMs is a bit complicated, and i'm not sure..
What are the pros and cons of unlocking the bootloader? could i brick the phone by doing that?
Is there a guide for noobies like me, a tutorial or something? sorry.. i'm new to this.. :fingers-crossed:

p3terr said:
Hello guys, i am also thinking about getting this phone, but i've been searching this forum and it seems that flashing ROMs is a bit complicated, and i'm not sure..
What are the pros and cons of unlocking the bootloader? could i brick the phone by doing that?
Is there a guide for noobies like me, a tutorial or something? sorry.. i'm new to this.. :fingers-crossed:
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Would you be getting the AT&T version, or another variant?
Setting the phone up for flashing ROMs is a bit more complicated than some other manufacturers. But this is just how it is for HTC, they have an increasing degree of security on their phones.
You have to unlock the bootloader, which really isn't all that hard. Then install custom recovery and you can flash ROMs. The AT&T version has the extra steps of temp root, SuperCID before you can unlock the bootloader.
Once the phone is setup, flashing ROMs is just like any other phone. With the exception of having to extract boot.img from the ROM zip and flashing via fastboot. But I believe this only applies to the AT&T version with the 1.14 hboot. Even so, you can downgrade the hboot, so you don't have to do the extra step of manually flashing boot.img.
Bricking the phone while unlocking the bootloader is unlikely. But its always a possibility with any mods. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone (not really an issue if you are doing it right away after buying) and you also have to confirm that you understand that unlocking the bootloader may void your warranty. Other than that, there is no real "con" to it.

I just finished unlocking bootloader, rooting, installing venom Rom and putting beastmode custom kernel on my [email protected] hox. It's easy now even with 2.2. Just download the all in one tool kit found in the stickied thread for the hox. Does almost all work for you.
Flashing Rom there after word was very similar to cwm was. Loaded it on my internal storage and flashed via recovery
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redpoint73 said:
1) 2.20 firmware is fully rootable, and has been for a few weeks now. Worries about there not being a root method for 2.20 are outdated, and no longer apply.
2) First off, CWM is not recommended for this device. It never officially supported the Snapdragon S4 variant, and was just a port, with serious known issues. A different custom recovery, TWRP is recommended, and works great.
With the 1.14 hboot that comes with the 2.20 firmware, the hole by which boot.img was flashed via recovery was plugged. So whenever you flash a new ROM, you need to extract boot.img from the ROM zip, and flash it separately via fastboot (phone connected to your PC). Or as previously mentioned, you can downgrade the hboot to eliminate this step.
Aside from that, flashing ROMs on TWRP is just as easy as CWM on your Aria (once you have bootloader unlocked and TWRP installed).
3) S-Off means all security off. It hasn't yet been achieved yet on this device. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can flash ROMs and other mods. With a downgraded hboot, you can flash radios. So there isn't much that S-Off would give you, that isn't already possible. Being able to get SIM unlock for free might be possible with S-Off, as well as turning off the warning flag that the bootloader was unlocked. But for the most part, that is really it. For most uses, S-Off simply is not needed. S-On and bootloader unlock fulfills most needs.
All that said, are you aware the One X+ is being released by AT&T tomorrow? It features a slightly faster CPU/GPU and much more internal storage. Unless you are on a budget, that is probably the phone I would go for at this point. But I think it also remains to be seen about root and bootloader unlock for the One X+.
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I am aware of the One X+ but I am on a budget and the slight performance boost to me doesn't justify the price. Radio shack will have the HOX for free on blackfriday. Also thanks for the answers to the questions your comment cleared up alot for me.
ECEXCURSION said:
Another aria convert, yay. As stated above, you shouldn't have any concerns about this device. TWRP is actually much easier to use than CWM. The flashing boot.IMG separately is something you won't need to do once you downgrade the firmware.
And as said above, I'd just get a one x+ if I had the money. We only get 9.93GB of SD storage space on this phone.
Sent from my HTC One XL
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ARIA FTW lol. I need the upgrade to the HOX. Only 9.9GB sucks pretty bad but I can make it work. If only I too had the money for the one X+

You don't need to wait for black friday to get the HOX for free. It's currently free on ATT on Amazon Wireless, and has been for a couple weeks.
If you follow instructions properly and read up on everything necessary, unlocking, rooting, and flashing the HOX is a breeze; 2.20 only introduces one additional, straightforward step.

exygenysys said:
You don't need to wait for black friday to get the HOX for free. It's currently free on ATT on Amazon Wireless, and has been for a couple weeks.
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Im eligible for a qualified upgrade on my family plan so I can't take advantage of the new contract deal.

[Q] Bought a rooted phone by accident, in over my head

First android phone it's a AT&T One X, i'll be using it on the Bell network. Got a good deal on Kijiji and I didn't ask enough questions apparently, lol.
The phone is clearly not stock, took me several hours to piece that together. I get it, I'm a noob. I can tell it's running Cleanrom 4.5. I want to get it back to something close to stock. I plan to learn all about rooting/roms but I want to do it from a vanilla phone so that I get to actually do it myself.
I googled and found a tutorial (link). I deleted the 'su' file and superuser.apk. I followed the rest of the steps and it didn't seem to do anything, just rebooted back into cleanrom.
I kept googling and now I'm following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859714
I guess i'm going to flash from an RUU now ? My CID is 11111111, so I've read that means I have superCID and any RUU will work. I want to get to JB eventually, so can I just flash direct to the Europe 3.14 JB from HTCRUU? Or go with one of the ICS versions?
Am I doing this right?

No no no!
Edit: still writing but wanted to say don't flash that ruu
If you want completely stock you need to use fast boot and boot into hboot and run fastboot OEM lock
(You may need to search around to learn how do that)
Then run this ruu. http://beta.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390077933525139511
Sent from my One X using Tapatalk 2

that is for the wrong phone
only place you should look at is here AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Its good your asking the questions now if you want to go completely stock run an ruu which means relicking the bootloader and running it ill link you to some guides in a sec
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Oh and like others said don't use that ruu! We have the one XL

cleanrom 4.5 is pretty good and close to stock but adds quick settings, debloated, power menu and some other tweaks. i would keep it how it is and just learn about how custom roms work. you can learn how to use twrp in its current state and maybe learn how to use some root apps.
just so you know your phone is the evita not the endeavoru.

Thanks for the replies.
I haven't tried flashing anything yet so don't worry. I'm taking it slow.
I've already been into fastboot. Figured that out because it was a required step in the guides I said I was trying to use. I have all the drivers installed and I'm able to talk to the phone via fastboot at the comand prompt.
LOL, thanks for letting me know my phone is Evita. I guess I can delete the 600mb RUU I downloaded
I'm a little unclear about HBOOT vs. fastboot. I can get into the bootloader and go to the fastboot USB mode... is this analogous to HBOOT?
So my steps right now are:
1) Download correct RUU, Evita 2.20 ICS - I've also seen people discussing 1.85 vs 2.20, why chose one over another?
2) fastboot oem lock
3) Install RUU while phone is in bootloader mode
That right?

I would strongly suggest to slow down, and learn more about what root is and means, before going back stock. Root is just a change in permissions. You gain absolutely nothing by unrooting, and lose quite a bit. You lose the ability to do all sorts of mods to your phone, flash custom ROMs, use apps that require root like Adaway and Titanium Backup (and many others), remove carrier bloatware, activate tethering, and much more.
People have gone through great pains to find root methods for our device (and other Android devices). Many come on here looking for these root methods, for the awesome benefits that root means. I've seen very few, if any, people before you that have said "crap I accidentally got a rooted device, and don't want root". Think about that one for a while.
Plus, CleanROM 4.5 is already based on a more updated firmware version than any of the official AT&T RUUs. Plus it includes a lot of cool features and optimizations. Again, going from CleanROM to stock is a step backwards, not forwards, and you are gaining nothing, and losing quite a bit. Another thing about CleanROM, is that it is devoid of the AT&T bloatware (and there is a lot). Keep in mind that on the stock AT&T ROM, the bloat is not removable without root, so you are stuck with quite a few crappy apps that you will never use. That alone is a huge reason to have a rooted device. Also bear in mind that stock AT&T does not allow tethering (unless you have a data plan that allows it) and has other stock HTC apps (like FM radio) disabled. These cannot be enabled unless you have root.
Another thing, is that you will not get Jellybean any faster on stock than rooted. While its true that rooted, this phone will not be able to take the OTA when it rolls out (hasn't happened yet). But a stock rooted JB firmware will almost certainly be posted here on XDA, that is safely flashable on a rooted device. This often happens within a couple days of the OTA starting to roll out, if not faster. Sometimes even before the OTA, as sometimes the official RUUs get leaked before the OTA. All it takes is for a dev to get his hands on the files, apply root, and upload it here. Learning how to flash such a file to your device is very simple. Not much more than: download the file to your phone, boot into recovery, and press "install". So yet again, stock gains nothing over being rooted.
While its true that root is not for everyone. But if you've already found this place, and learned what things like RUU, bootloader, and fastboot are, then you probably already know more than most folks do about Android. You may feel in over your head, but it really just takes a few hours of reading to learn the fundamentals. And with that knowledge, you can do so much more with your phone than you can without root.

redpoint73 said:
I would strongly suggest to slow down, and learn more about what root is and means, before going back stock. Root is just a change in permissions. You gain absolutely nothing by unrooting, and lose quite a bit....
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I appreciate the advice, thanks. To be clear, eventually I will probably bring the device back to where it is now. I've used linux before so I have an understanding of the permissions system and the added benefits of root.
My goal here is to get the phone back to stock so that I can learn the rooting/flashing process from the start, not the end. I understand why that might seem counterintuitive but I'm a very hands on person and I'll learn more of the theory by walking through the process than reading about how somebody else hacked this device to get where it is now.
Sure I'm making extra work for myself but I know what im getting into.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

echoboomer said:
I appreciate the advice, thanks. To be clear, eventually I will probably bring the device back to where it is now. I've used linux before so I have an understanding of the permissions system and the added benefits of root.
My goal here is to get the phone back to stock so that I can learn the rooting/flashing process from the start, not the end. I understand why that might seem counterintuitive but I'm a very hands on person and I'll learn more of the theory by walking through the process than reading about how somebody else hacked this device to get where it is now.
Sure I'm making extra work for myself but I know what im getting into.
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You should have said so from the start, then. This pretty much negates everything I just typed above.
Its admirable that you want to learn the process from scratch, and its the opposite attitude of most n00bs here.
My advice, as another mentioned above, is stick to XDA, and don't follow instructions from random Googled sites. Most of those sites don't clearly delineate between our phone (Snapdragon S4) and the international (Tegra3) version, and following instructions for the international version is a great way to brick your phone.
Other than that, lock the bootloader, run the RUU, and have fun. Also check your hboot version. If its anything but 1.14, don't run the 2.20 RUU. You will want the 1.73 or 1.85 RUU instead, as the 2.20 RUU will update the hboot to 1.14, which plugs the holes by which boot.img and radios can be flashed from recovery. Unless you want to create ever MORE work for yourself, as the hboot can be downgraded using a Linux computer, lol!
Be sure to check out my index thread, as most anything you will need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237

Thanks, sounds like I'm on the right track.
Also check back to my OP, I did say that I wanted to learn the whole process but I wanted to do it from stock. sorry you typed all that out but in sure it will help some other noob down the line.
Last thing, 1.85 vs 2.20?
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ChummyDays said:
2.20 has the new hboot, and that means that you have to extract the boot.IMG out of the ROM and flash it through fast boot. With 1.85 you just flash the ROM.
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Cool thanks, I found a tutorial last night on how to extract boot.IMG from the ruu exe. I think I'm good to go.
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You might be confused. You shouldn't have to pull a boot.img from an RUU typically, only from a custom ROM zip. And only if you are on boot 1.14.
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Probably confused. Here's what I see in the boot loader.
***
Tampered
Unlocked
Evita PVT Ship S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.09.0000
Radio-0.19as.32.09.09_L
OpenDSP-v28.1.0.32.0504
eMMC-boot
***
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echoboomer said:
HBOOT-1.09.0000
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This is what you want to see, and why you need to be sure to use the 1.85 RUU.

[Q] need help where to go next

I have ATT HOX 2.20, unlocked, rooted, superCID, S-off, latest TWRP (thanks to all of you). I'm prett lost as to where to go next. I'd like to keep all of this and update to the latest stock ota Jellybean. However, when I check for ATT updates on the phone, nothing happens, even when I manually check in.
I would like the latest and greatest on this phone but more important is full functionality and full stability. If I could hit a button, return this phone to original, and download the latest ota, I would. I would then just use Titanium Backup to remove any bloatware that I didn't like. But I (and I suspect many others) spent weeks unlocking this phone because it was unclear when, or if, an official JB would ever arrive. So here I am, stuck in an inbetween moment. The part where this site offers way too many options with unclear results. I am looking for the least complicated, way to get the most fully functional and stable JB onto this phone and I'll be done. And, I can't figure out if it's the official update or one of a thousand offered Roms, kernels, radios, etc. Any and all specific advice would be appreciated. And, as always, thank you to all who post here. I've had a lot of fun (and a few scary moments).

runaway said:
I have ATT HOX 2.20, unlocked, rooted, superCID, S-off, latest TWRP (thanks to all of you). I'm prett lost as to where to go next. I'd like to keep all of this and update to the latest stock ota Jellybean. However, when I check for ATT updates on the phone, nothing happens, even when I manually check in.
I would like the latest and greatest on this phone but more important is full functionality and full stability. If I could hit a button, return this phone to original, and download the latest ota, I would. I would then just use Titanium Backup to remove any bloatware that I didn't like. But I (and I suspect many others) spent weeks unlocking this phone because it was unclear when, or if, an official JB would ever arrive. So here I am, stuck in an inbetween moment. The part where this site offers way too many options with unclear results. I am looking for the least complicated, way to get the most fully functional and stable JB onto this phone and I'll be done. And, I can't figure out if it's the official update or one of a thousand offered Roms, kernels, radios, etc. Any and all specific advice would be appreciated. And, as always, thank you to all who post here. I've had a lot of fun (and a few scary moments).
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Why do you want to go stock? Stock currently has only 4.1.1. There are various ROMs on the XDA, if you want a sense one try out the Viper XL and also there are various options for non-sense ROMs.
Anyways if you do want to flash the stock ROM here is the link: -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181399
Make sure you rea carefully before you flash the stock one from anywhere. There have been bricks. Also check out the FAQs. Hope this helped

runaway said:
I have ATT HOX 2.20, unlocked, rooted, superCID, S-off, latest TWRP (thanks to all of you). I'm prett lost as to where to go next. I'd like to keep all of this and update to the latest stock ota Jellybean. However, when I check for ATT updates on the phone, nothing happens, even when I manually check in.
I would like the latest and greatest on this phone but more important is full functionality and full stability. If I could hit a button, return this phone to original, and download the latest ota, I would. I would then just use Titanium Backup to remove any bloatware that I didn't like. But I (and I suspect many others) spent weeks unlocking this phone because it was unclear when, or if, an official JB would ever arrive. So here I am, stuck in an inbetween moment. The part where this site offers way too many options with unclear results. I am looking for the least complicated, way to get the most fully functional and stable JB onto this phone and I'll be done. And, I can't figure out if it's the official update or one of a thousand offered Roms, kernels, radios, etc. Any and all specific advice would be appreciated. And, as always, thank you to all who post here. I've had a lot of fun (and a few scary moments).
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I think pretty much everybody here will tell you to stay away from the new ota. It offers nothing new and some people have even bricked their phones while updating. My suggestion would be to install one of the custom roms as they're better optimissed and don't have all the bloat and are more customizable. I've found viperxl to be as stable as stock while adding a load of tweaks to highly personalize it. Cleanrom on the other hand doesn't have all the tweaks but is a stripped down Rom that's fast and stable. But you'll have to try you like best but I advise you not to ota. The ota will also update your touchscreen firmware that causes a lot of problems for cm users. If you think you might want to install cm10 don't update.
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If you want stock flash CleanROM 6 r2. In fact, just flash everything in my signature + turge's WiFi fix. That will give you the latest "stock" experience for AT&T.
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There's no need to "stay away" from the OTA if you know what you're doing. It contains some updates that are not in any of the Sense ROMs. If you want to update everything on your phone, it's easy and safe to do so since you're s-off. The only people who bricked were SuperCID and s-on. Here's what to do:
-Confirm that you're s-off (just to be safe)
-Make a full backup and copy it off your phone.
-Run 2.20 ruu. You need this to restore stock recovery.
-Download the ota, rename update.zip, and copy to internal storage.
-Reboot to bootloader, select recovery, press power and vol+ to get to recovery dialog.
-Ignore errors that come up. Select install from internal storage, select update.zip. Your phone may reboot a couple of times. Return to bootloader when done.
-Push custom recovery back on.
-Flash rooted rom
-Restore backups as necessary
I did all this a couple of weeks ago, and my phone is running faster and more smoothly than ever.
You will need to downgrade your touchscreen firmware if you ever plan to use an AOSP rom.

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iElvis said:
There's no need to "stay away" from the OTA if you know what you're doing. It contains some updates that are not in any of the Sense ROMs. If you want to update everything on your phone, it's easy and safe to do so since you're s-off. The only people who bricked were SuperCID and s-on. Here's what to do:
-Confirm that you're s-off (just to be safe)
-Make a full backup and copy it off your phone.
-Run 2.20 ruu. You need this to restore stock recovery.
-Download the ota, rename update.zip, and copy to internal storage.
-Reboot to bootloader, select recovery, press power and vol+ to get to recovery dialog.
-Ignore errors that come up. Select install from internal storage, select update.zip. Your phone may reboot a couple of times. Return to bootloader when done.
-Push custom recovery back on.
-Flash rooted rom
-Restore backups as necessary
I did all this a couple of weeks ago, and my phone is running faster and more smoothly than ever.
You will need to downgrade your touchscreen firmware if you ever plan to use an AOSP rom.
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This is what I'm looking for. My second choice would be the highly recommended Viper Rom, and thirdly a CleanRom. I tried the CleanRom once and softbricked my phone so I'm a little shy now. I like the HTC Sense and don't mind keeping it. I just want a ROM designed specifically for this phone where everything works, is updated, and is stable. I feel like the official ota is the answer. The info on this site gets quite scattered when you get to this point. Do I stay locked, or do I re-lock? Do I keep TWRP or not? Do I flash or update? Boot image extract or no? S-off ok or no? etc. etc. I'll try your way first. Provided I come out the other side ok, I'll post the results here. Thank you for your help.

runaway said:
This is what I'm looking for. My second choice would be the highly recommended Viper Rom, and thirdly a CleanRom. I tried the CleanRom once and softbricked my phone so I'm a little shy now. I like the HTC Sense and don't mind keeping it. I just want a ROM designed specifically for this phone where everything works, is updated, and is stable. I feel like the official ota is the answer. The info on this site gets quite scattered when you get to this point. Do I stay locked, or do I re-lock? Do I keep TWRP or not? Do I flash or update? Boot image extract or no? S-off ok or no? etc. etc. I'll try your way first. Provided I come out the other side ok, I'll post the results here. Thank you for your help.
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Also, to clarify, by "backup" I meant both a nandroid (always a good idea when making changes), and your user apps+data.
When restoring, only restore user apps. A nandroid will put you back where you were. Don't restore system apps+data either, as this can cause problems, esp when upgrading your base.

iElvis said:
Also, to clarify, by "backup" I meant both a nandroid (always a good idea when making changes), and your user apps+data.
When restoring, only restore user apps. A nandroid will put you back where you were. Don't restore system apps+data either, as this can cause problems, esp when upgrading your base.
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Just to confirm, After downloading OTA and doing my backups, I need to find the original 2.20 file for this phone and restore stock recovery? (I'll have to admit, I'm a bit lost on this site and overwhelmed by all of the files I've downloaded to get this far. If anyone can post a link here to this file, and or, instructions, I'd appreciate it)
Here is where I stand right now:
Andriod 4.04, HTC Sense 4.0, Software number 2.20.502.7 710RD, HTC SDK API level 4.23
Tampered
Unlocked
EVITA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
CID-11111111
HBOOT-1.14.0002
RADIO-0.19as32.09.11-2
OpenDSP-v29.1.0.45.0622
eMMc-boot
Jun 11 2012 14:36:28

runaway said:
Just to confirm, After downloading OTA and doing my backups, I need to find the original 2.20 file for this phone and restore stock recovery? (I'll have to admit, I'm a bit lost on this site and overwhelmed by all of the files I've downloaded to get this far. If anyone can post a link here to this file, and or, instructions, I'd appreciate it)
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Yes, there is a link to the 2.20 ruu in the development section roll-up thread.

Picking up the pieces, need a confirmation.

After reading countless threads about RUUing or OTAing to the 3.18 Jellybean software, I think I know what everything means. But just to be safe, I want to confirm some things before I try anything. I have never been on a stock firmware other than when I got my phone, and it came on the 2.20 ICS software.
1. I used the SuperCID method to unlock my bootloader. I've read that having SuperCID will screw up the update to jellybean. But, I've also read that having s-off will bypass the CID check when updating, making the update work normally.
My phone has a CID of 1111111 (SuperCID), and is also s-off. Does this mean if I flash back to a stock ICS rom and OTA up to jellybean, everything will be alright? After all of the info I've sifted through, my personal answer is 'yes, everything will work.'
2. If I do proceed with an update to JB, will I still have S-off and/or a root? I've looked at the facepalm s-off thread under the Original Development section, and see no mention of a compatibility or incompatibility with Jellybean. This is the first HTC device I've ever owned, so I'm not as familiar with s-off as some of you may be. I did find this from searching the s-off thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38197741
If I recall correctly, I was running Viper XL when I s-off'd. It was a jellybean firmware at that time, probably built from the jellybean stock firmware. My personal answer to the question is 'yes, I will still be s-off, but I still don't know about a root.'
As far as a root goes, I'm at a loss of what to look for. I don't see a thread dedicated to a jellybean root, but then again, I'm not as well rounded with troubleshooting as others.
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S-off will stick until you manually undo it. Whether you ruu, flash roms, whatever. Only way to lose s-off is to do fastboot oem setsecurityflag 3. Root is software so it's set within the rom. All the custom roms have root by default. With an unlocked bootloader any rom that doesn't have root can have root by flashing su. Consider root as having administrator on windows. If you don't have windows installed there's no administrative access to have right? Hence it doesn't stick but is built into the roms you flash.
S-off eliminates security checks so you you can ruu, flash anything and there won't be any checks that say hey, this isn't the right device or hey, this bootloader is unlocked, you can't ruu..
Just make sure not to flash anything not intended for the evita.
Hopefully this makes sense.
If you have any other questions, do not hesitate to ask.
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exad said:
S-off will stick until you manually undo it. Whether you ruu, flash roms, whatever. Only way to lose s-off is to do fastboot oem setsecurityflag 3. Root is software so it's set within the rom. All the custom roms have root by default. With an unlocked bootloader any rom that doesn't have root can have root by flashing su. Consider root as having administrator on windows. If you don't have windows installed there's no administrative access to have right? Hence it doesn't stick but is built into the roms you flash.
S-off eliminates security checks so you you can ruu, flash anything and there won't be any checks that say hey, this isn't the right device or hey, this bootloader is unlocked, you can't ruu..
Just make sure not to flash anything not intended for the evita.
Hopefully this makes sense.
If you have any other questions, do not hesitate to ask.
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Thanks, this pretty much answered all of my questions so if I just wanted a rooted stock rom, I would just follow the steps in the root guide that involve pushing and installing the su binary, and ignore the extra ones that involve changing the CID?
I can't seem to find any links to stock rooted for ICS (it's a preference to me over JB, sorry ) anymore. My thoughts were to run the 2.20 RUU and root it, which seems like a valid option based on your response
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Ics is obsolete. If you really want stock rooted Ics.
You're correct.
Run an ics ruu
Flash twrp, flash su
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tyessen said:
My phone has a CID of 1111111 (SuperCID), and is also s-off. Does this mean if I flash back to a stock ICS rom and OTA up to jellybean, everything will be alright? After all of the info I've sifted through, my personal answer is 'yes, everything will work.'
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If the goal is JB, then I'd recommend the JB RUU, rather than the OTA. RUU is a much cleaner and problem-free install.
'yes, everything will work' is a bit too presumptive to me. You can never be sure that everything will be okay. Modding your phone always has its risks, even under the safest of circumstances. But S-off will prevent the particular case of a (virtually guaranteed) brick caused by installing the RUU or OTA with SuperCID + S-on.

redpoint73 said:
If the goal is JB, then I'd recommend the JB RUU, rather than the OTA. RUU is a much cleaner and problem-free install.
'yes, everything will work' is a bit too presumptive to me. You can never be sure that everything will be okay. Modding your phone always has its risks, even under the safest of circumstances. But S-off will prevent the particular case of a (virtually guaranteed) brick caused by installing the RUU or OTA with SuperCID + S-on.
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I didn't mean everything as in it will be right out of the box, no errors or problems by that, sorry. I meant that the flash/RUU would complete successfully and I would be running a stock firmware again.
And like I said, I've never ran the official JB firmware, so I'll give it a try and see how the battery holds out. I know ICS had a much better life than other JB custom roms out there, but then again, custom means extra (most of the time).
So, maybe I'll just head straight for the jellybean RUU instead. My only concern is that the h-boot would update, and that sets off a little flag in my head with s-off problems (even though it was confirmed it would stay in place until I manually went back to s-on).
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tyessen said:
I didn't mean everything as in it will be right out of the box, no errors or problems by that, sorry. I meant that the flash/RUU would complete successfully and I would be running a stock firmware again.
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Again, I would never assume that everything will be "completely successful". Even running the RUU under safest of circumstances has its risks. People have bricked their phones running the RUU with a completely stock device. However, its very unlikely.
S-off removes the particular issue of a near automatic brick if you have SuperCID and S-on. There should be no other particular high risk factors, that are currently known and within your control (which is what I think you are trying to get at). You will most likely be okay. But its impossible to remove all risk. Anything that updates hboot and radio has the risk of bricking the device, if it everything does not go exactly right. But aside from being sure you don't mess with the phone or computer while its flashing, its just an unlikely random event, outside of your control.
tyessen said:
And like I said, I've never ran the official JB firmware, so I'll give it a try and see how the battery holds out. I know ICS had a much better life than other JB custom roms out there, but then again, custom means extra (most of the time).
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I would not jump to the conclusion that ICS has better battery life JB (custom or otherwise). I'd say that quite a few people have had better battery life on JB. There are lots of variables at play. Simply RUUing to the newer radio might improve your battery life. Or might even make it worse.
Battery life is always better experienced for yourself, rather than taking for granted what you read from others.