I picked up a G2 yesterday, played with it, used the G2 Forum here to get the steps to disable a bunch of stock apps, and am now pretty sure I am going to go swap it out for a MT4G (the hinges are way to loose).
My question is can I follow the same steps for disabling some of the same stock apps on the MT4G as I did on the G2?
The steps were root the phone, launch a terminal, and just type in pm disable followed by the package name.
I have not tried that yet. Am hoping this will work the same - they is a lot of TMo junk on this device.
Will be trying it on Monday, and if no one else posts on it before then, will do so.
Read the threads before posting, your answer is here already.
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Yes you can. I did the same steps and got the same results. Only difference is the app list between the two devices.
Elfabaa said:
I picked up a G2 yesterday, played with it, used the G2 Forum here to get the steps to disable a bunch of stock apps, and am now pretty sure I am going to go swap it out for a MT4G (the hinges are way to loose).
My question is can I follow the same steps for disabling some of the same stock apps on the MT4G as I did on the G2?
The steps were root the phone, launch a terminal, and just type in pm disable followed by the package name.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829662
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829662
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That thread refers to how to "force remove" apps via Titanium, which is NOT the same thing as using the pm commands referred to by the OP. Using pm commands manually is the same thing as using Titanium's freeze function, and will allow you to receive OTA updates. "Force removing" apps on the other hand will not allow you to receive OTA updates, in which case, according to that thread at least, you would need to get a ROM that would allow you to flash back to stock. And, as far as I'm aware, this is not possible on the MT4G, as system writes are not possible. So, if I understand things, I wouldn't go the route of "force removing" apps, but rather, stick with "freezing" them with Titanium or using the pm command.
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That thread refers to how to "force remove" apps via Titanium, which is NOT the same thing as using the pm commands referred to by the OP. Using pm commands manually is the same thing as using Titanium's freeze function, and will allow you to receive OTA updates. "Force removing" apps on the other hand will not allow you to receive OTA updates, in which case, according to that thread at least, you would need to get a ROM that would allow you to flash back to stock. And, as far as I'm aware, this is not possible on the MT4G, as system writes are not possible. So, if I understand things, I wouldn't go the route of "force removing" apps, but rather, stick with "freezing" them with Titanium or using the pm command.
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Is freezing them with titanium permanent? Or does this have to be done at every boot?
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Is freezing them with titanium permanent? Or does this have to be done at every boot?
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Freezing is not permanent, as in it can't be undone. But, it does survive a reboot, even with fastboot turned off. The reason is is that the changes are written to the data partition, not the system partition.
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Freezing is not permanent, as in it can't be undone. But, it does survive a reboot, even with fastboot turned off. The reason is is that the changes are written to the data partition, not the system partition.
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And freezing will allow me to still get the OTA? I deleted a bunch of apps & couldn't get the update so I reverted back to stock but I still wanna get rid of the bloat. I figure freezing is safer than deleting anyway...
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And freezing will allow me to still get the OTA?
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Can someone tell me the best Rooting method, I think we only have Temp-Root right now but tell me which one is best?
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Can someone tell me if and when i am rooted, and i use titanium backup to delete bloatware from my phone, once i reboot my phone will the bloat be back?
Thanks in advance!
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Can someone tell me the best Rooting method, I think we only have Temp-Root right now but tell me which one is best?
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Can someone tell me if and when i am rooted, and i use titanium backup to delete bloatware from my phone, once i reboot my phone will the bloat be back?
Thanks in advance!
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I did the temp root a few weeks ago and disabled some bloatware through adb. I've since rebooted several times and the bloatware that I disabled does not show up in my app menu. I'm guessing it stays disabled. Btw, I have fastboot enabled if that makes any difference.
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I did the temp root a few weeks ago and disabled some bloatware through adb. I've since rebooted several times and the bloatware that I disabled does not show up in my app menu. I'm guessing it stays disabled. Btw, I have fastboot enabled if that makes any difference.
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You disabled it, which means u didnt use Titanium backup to Uninstall the bloat?
Sammydr10 said:
You disabled it, which means u didnt use Titanium backup to Uninstall the bloat?
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Yes...I'm a noob at this but this is what I did.
1. I used this guide to get set up to do the temp root.
2. I used this guide to do the temp root.
3. I used this method to disable bloatware.
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Yes...I'm a noob at this but this is what I did.
1. I used this guide to get set up to do the temp root.
2. I used this guide to do the temp root.
3. I used this method to disable bloatware.
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Thanks, except idk how to use ADB or know what a SHELL is for the rooting method
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Thanks, except idk how to use ADB or know what a SHELL is for the rooting method
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Oh, I also used this video to help me out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t9AXZWcFQU
If you just follow the guides/video, you should be able to do the temp root and disable bloatware. That first guide will get you set up with everything that is required for doing the temp root, the second guide and the youtube video will help you actually do the temp root, and then the third guide will help you disable apps. You can post in those threads if you need help in any of those steps.
First read this. It was stickied to the top of the forum you posted in.
Second, more adb help here.
Third, best method for temp root here.
Fourth, tool to disable packages here.
If you uninstall from Titanium they will return once you reboot. Disabling them they will stay disabled (but installed) unless you wipe your phone.
If you cant figure it out after all the info is provided, please go here.
setzer715 said:
First read this. It was stickied to the top of the forum you posted in.
Second, more adb help here.
Third, best method for temp root here.
Fourth, tool to disable packages here.
If you uninstall from Titanium they will return once you reboot. Disabling them they will stay disabled (but installed) unless you wipe your phone.
If you cant figure it out after all the info is provided, please go here.
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Thanks a lot man, I already did everthing last night though but ill be sure to hit the thanks button when I get on my pc for your effort
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I just got an email from Motorola offering me to test out the new version of Android for the Ultra, Maxx, and Mini.
That means such will be pushed to the general users within a few days or possibly a week.
From my past experience with such updates, the #1 change is to close any loopholes being used to root the devices. Therefore, I have very little interest in ever updating the O/S now that I do have root.
Is there a way I can stop my phone from checking, and installing, such updates? Such would including blocking the nag popups.
hmm...soak test for camera update possibly? I haven't gotten anything yet for mine...hopefully someone can make this flashable for SS and we'll be fine..
On the maxx hd there was an app that you freeze that made it not download updates.
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This thread talks about how to do it for the Moto X (which is basically the same thing, right?).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
I read through the instructions, and everything seems straight forward until it gets to the part about flashing stock recovery and such.
Will this method work for the MAXX? If so, where do we find the .img files we would need?
It use to be to "freeze" BlurUpdater_VZW.apk and Upgrader.apk. But I don't see those apps, nor any app with a similar name, in /systems/apps.
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It use to be to "freeze" BlurUpdater_VZW.apk and Upgrader.apk. But I don't see those apps, nor any app with a similar name, in /systems/apps.
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So if all I needed root for was for the entitlement hack (and I've heard that survives the new OTA) could I just accept this OTA knowing that I will lose root? Or will it not install?
Your right in system/app I do not see an updater.apk, but in Titanium backup I do see one to freeze? That should work to stop updates, it did in the past.
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It use to be to "freeze" BlurUpdater_VZW.apk and Upgrader.apk. But I don't see those apps, nor any app with a similar name, in /systems/apps.
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if youve removed any system apps from the device..the update will fail automatically
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if youve removed any system apps from the device..the update will fail automatically
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All I've done was pwnmymoto for root, the entitlement hack, and disable a bunch of apps. can I accept the OTA?
redddog said:
All I've done was pwnmymoto for root, the entitlement hack, and disable a bunch of apps. can I accept the OTA?
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yes..but root most likely won't survive..youll have to rsd back to stock...download pwnmymoto. install it but don't run it... accept the ota and then the phone will reboot and it should be rooted...should be LOL
Freezing updater . apk doesn't stop the prompts to update.
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jfriend33 said:
Freezing updater . apk doesn't stop the prompts to update.
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Did you freeze MotorolaOTA in addition to Updater?
dano1282 said:
yes..but root most likely won't survive..youll have to rsd back to stock...download pwnmymoto. install it but don't run it... accept the ota and then the phone will reboot and it should be rooted...should be LOL
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So this is NOT true?
Seems as if I would accept OTA, I'm looking at the business end of a bootloop?
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Did you freeze MotorolaOTA in addition to Updater?
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No. I assume I'd have to use titanium backup to freeze the MotorolaOTA app?
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jfriend33 said:
No. I assume I'd have to use titanium backup to freeze the MotorolaOTA app?
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I did, to freeze both (Updater and MotorolaOTA).
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I did, to freeze both (Updater and MotorolaOTA).
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I did this and it stopped the download (I'm rooted and down have time today with messing around with unbricking a bootlooping phone).
I'm glad I happened to look at my phone on my way home from work because it appears that this update just inflicts itself on the phone without any real chance to decline it (at 2am when most people are sleeping).
My Maxx installed the update this morning and has been stuck in a constant reboot cycle ever since. It will boot long enough for me to go in and check on the update (which states that the "Install is deferred") then simply reboots again and again. There is also a code 252 on the software install screen.
Can anyone help me get out of the reboot cycle? My phone is rooted with the entitlement check set to 0, other than that completely stock.
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My Maxx installed the update this morning and has been stuck in a constant reboot cycle ever since. It will boot long enough for me to go in and check on the update (which states that the "Install is deferred") then simply reboots again and again. There is also a code 252 on the software install screen.
Can anyone help me get out of the reboot cycle? My phone is rooted with the entitlement check set to 0, other than that completely stock.
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I'm in the EXACT same boat as you. Hoping someone has a solution to this.
cmarshack said:
My Maxx installed the update this morning and has been stuck in a constant reboot cycle ever since. It will boot long enough for me to go in and check on the update (which states that the "Install is deferred") then simply reboots again and again. There is also a code 252 on the software install screen.
Can anyone help me get out of the reboot cycle? My phone is rooted with the entitlement check set to 0, other than that completely stock.
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You were probably rooted and thus lost your recovery from pwnmymoto. You need to fxz back to stock.
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jfriend33 said:
You were probably rooted and thus lost your recovery from pwnmymoto. You need to fxz back to stock.
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What is the process for "fat back to stock?"
Dears,
I'm having a problem in which I don't know how to solve, I tried searching before opening this thread, I found many who have similar problems but I can't do what they do to solve it, I'll explain why.
Problem: I have a ColorOS OnePlus/64GB - the seller had mentioned that he flashed the latest update of CM11 into the phone. I received the phone and it works perfect, can not love it more. However, I noticed that these apps (Root Explorer + Titanium Backup) are installed, I downloaded "Root Checker" to see weather my phone is rooted or not, and it tells me that my phone is NOT rooted. The problem now is how do I uninstall these apps? it seems they are "system apps", so they can not be uninstalled from Settings>Apps.
In all the other threads, topics, the answer would include (a rooted phone) to get rid of these apps, any solution? as I have no clue in Android developing, please bear with me.
Regards,
You cant delete sistem files/apks without root.
You cannot uninstall system apps without root. You will have to unlock your bootloader and then obtain root in order to remove these apps.
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Would it be possible to just flash another stock ROM that doesnt come with these apps ?
At the end of day you'll need root. Just remove it using titanium back up, it's easy to do and I doubt there's a stock rom that just removes those apps and that's it. If you're looking for a custom rom, Mahdi is the best in my opinion.
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zephiK said:
At the end of day you'll need root. Just remove it using titanium back up, it's easy to do and I doubt there's a stock rom that just removes those apps and that's it. If you're looking for a custom rom, Mahdi is the best in my opinion.
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I would love to root and do all these kind of stuff but I have no experience in do so, I'll try following the steps and hopefully don't ruin my phone .. . one final question (would disabling and hiding those two apps affect anything? as long as I don't see them I'm happy)
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I would love to root and do all these kind of stuff but I have no experience in do so, I'll try following the steps and hopefully don't ruin my phone .. . one final question (would disabling and hiding those two apps affect anything? as long as I don't see them I'm happy)
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Its fine to do that.
jalmass said:
I would love to root and do all these kind of stuff but I have no experience in do so, I'll try following the steps and hopefully don't ruin my phone .. . one final question (would disabling and hiding those two apps affect anything? as long as I don't see them I'm happy)
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We all had no experience at one point .. just dive right into it, were here to help if you get stuck
Anyone read about the new root method for all G4s?
I can't link it for some reason but it is in the non carrier G4 section
Yup. Already rooted and debloated.
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Link, pics, and/or video or it didn't happen.
Or you could not be lazy and go look in the main forums for it.
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See this:
[ROOT] TMO/VZW/ATT/SPRINT/INTL Root your LG G4 with Low Effort Root!
Yeah, works like a charm.
Has anyone tried this on a H810 10B VERSION?
How did you do the debloat? I tried manually going through and nuking various things with Titanium Backup and have managed to get into a spot where I randomly get errors like existing apps are missing dependencies. I should have stopped at nuking all ATT stuff and having most of the LG stuff not being loaded but not removing them completely. .
Anyone know where I can find all the LG Apps or a way to pull them back down without going back to a stock image then rerooting?
soulysephiroth said:
Yup. Already rooted and debloated.
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soulysephiroth said:
Yup. Already rooted and debloated.
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I see that you had success with your root on the AT&T variant. I'm using to rooting Samsung phones, so this is definitely different.
Did you encounter any weirdness by just following the original post instructions? Any tips you can pass along before I take the plunge?
Thanks!
I found it very easy but I'm also familiar with low level tools.
If you follow the guide exactly, it should be easy. Just be careful with what you "clean" afterward or you'll end up like me with some weird issues.
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I see that you had success with your root on the AT&T variant. I'm using to rooting Samsung phones, so this is definitely different.
Did you encounter any weirdness by just following the original post instructions? Any tips you can pass along before I take the plunge?
Thanks!
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Has anyone tried this on a H810 10B VERSION?
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Don't do it, it'll brick the phone. They only have a rooted image up for the H81010g.
Follow their directions for making a system image file of your phone.
There are directions somewhere on how to root your image file so look around if you feel comfortable with that.
You can also upload your 10b image to Mega or Androidfilehosts for others to use.
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sorozco said:
How did you do the debloat? I tried manually going through and nuking various things with Titanium Backup and have managed to get into a spot where I randomly get errors like existing apps are missing dependencies. I should have stopped at nuking all ATT stuff and having most of the LG stuff not being loaded but not removing them completely. .
Anyone know where I can find all the LG Apps or a way to pull them back down without going back to a stock image then rerooting?
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Block or freeze first! There may be some files you need uploaded on Androidfilehosts.com.
If you post a list of files you need in a new thread here, someone will help you. My phone is bricked, so I can't help today.
What do you freeze to stop the automatic over the air updates?
I removed most of what on the list in the "debloater" link to stop updates. Only drawback is I think I destoryed my MMS because I removed some thing I shouldn't have.
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I removed most of what on the list in the "debloater" link to stop updates. Only drawback is I think I destoryed my MMS because I removed some thing I shouldn't have.
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Check my Debloat thread, I think someone mentioned which file nuked MMS for them, but on another carrier. You can also try another MMS app. I don't like the stock one.
I also got carried away and deleted some necessary apps. I did a factory reset and went through the root process again and it restored the deleted apps and now all is well.
I didn't freeze the apps, I removed them completely. I need to return to stock to resolve it more than likely hah
Did you do the basic factory reset on the phone? If that's all you did, I might do the same .
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I also got carried away and deleted some necessary apps. I did a factory reset and went through the root process again and it restored the deleted apps and now all is well.
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I couldn't get past the startup screen once I reset because of the blocks. LGstartup keeps crashing making it so I can't get past it. Stock it is. And now the damn stock restore keeps failing too.
Does anyone know what could be stopping photo lock from working? I'm hoping that's what it is anyeay
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Does anyone know what could be stopping photo lock from working? I'm hoping that's what it is anyeay
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Just an fyi it's called "content lock" just found it
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My phone just got updated. Not sure what changed. I couldn't find any info online.
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Probably the security patch.
Taken from my 920
It brings us up to 10i where T-Mobile is currently at.
Ant way to block updates on a non rooted phone?
Could we possibly finally get a stock KDZ from this?
I froze that
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Ant way to block updates on a non rooted phone?
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I installed FOTAKill.apk and have not been prompted about any update.
No root needed, just install like any other apk. I've been using it since I had my Epic 4G.....LoL...... I hate the pushy notices.
Edit: It failed this time.....I just got the update prompt
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I installed FOTAKill.apk and have not been prompted about any update.
No root needed, just install like any other apk. I've been using it since I had my Epic 4G.....LoL...... I hate the pushy notices.
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Can you link the apk. Can only seem to find old ones
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My phone just got updated. Not sure what changed. I couldn't find any info online.
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I got the notification for that but I haven't updated yet.
Did you willingly install the update or did it happen automatically? Can anyone confirm?
I need to know if I should be freaking out or not. I haven't rooted yet but now I think I'm running out of time and need to get it over with.
I have "Automatic system updates" turned off in Developer options. Am I safe?
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I got the notification for that but I haven't updated yet.
Did you willingly install the update or did it happen automatically? Can anyone confirm?
I need to know if I should be freaking out or not. I haven't rooted yet but now I think I'm running out of time and need to get it over with.
I have "Automatic system updates" turned off in Developer options. Am I safe?
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I willingly let it install.
AT&T Forced this update on my phone
And am currently bootlooping into TWRP. ****. Anyone have any ideas?
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I willingly let it install.
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I'm currently on the NotSoStock modded rom with ATT variant, everytime the update goes to install it gets to the point where the phone goes to reboot and then boots into TWRP. Any ideas on what I should do?
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I'm currently on the NotSoStock modded rom with ATT variant, everytime the update goes to install it gets to the point where the phone goes to reboot and then boots into TWRP. Any ideas on what I should do?
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Sorry I don't know about that. My phone is pure stock.
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And am currently bootlooping into TWRP. ****. Anyone have any ideas?
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I'm currently on the NotSoStock modded rom with ATT variant, everytime the update goes to install it gets to the point where the phone goes to reboot and then boots into TWRP. Any ideas on what I should do?
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You should stop trying to install it
I've run into this before on other devices. Basically, the phone assumes you have the stock recovery installed, and attempts to run a command very specific to that recovery. Since you have TWRP, such a command is not compatible, and therefore nothing happens. If you were to look at the terminal output in TWRP, you should see something indicating that flashing the update failed.
But as a general rule of thumb, you should stay away from OTA updates when rooted. They are generally not compatible with or safe for rooted devices and custom ROMs. Even if the update were successful, it would unroot your device and patch the update that allowed you to obtain root, and you'd be stuck without root indefinitely.
So in your case, you need to freeze/uninstall "System Update" app (or whatever it's called) and wait for the maintainer of your ROM to include the changes in the next ROM update.
If you're still bootlooping, in TWRP's file manager, try looking for the update and deleting it. I think it may be in the /cache folder, but please do some research before you go deleting stuff at random. You may also try connecting it to adb, restarting in root mode, and running "adb uninstall com.lge.lgdmsclient," or "adb hide com.lge.lgdmsclient." Basically, you need to find a method of preventing the update from initiating automatically upon boot.
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You should stop trying to install it
I've run into this before on other devices. Basically, the phone assumes you have the stock recovery installed, and attempts to run a command very specific to that recovery. Since you have TWRP, such a command is not compatible, and therefore nothing happens. If you were to look at the terminal output in TWRP, you should see something indicating that flashing the update failed.
But as a general rule of thumb, you should stay away from OTA updates when rooted. They are generally not compatible with or safe for rooted devices and custom ROMs. Even if the update were successful, it would unroot your device and patch the update that allowed you to obtain root, and you'd be stuck without root indefinitely.
So in your case, you need to freeze/uninstall "System Update" app (or whatever it's called) and wait for the maintainer of your ROM to include the changes in the next ROM update.
If you're still bootlooping, in TWRP's file manager, try looking for the update and deleting it. I think it may be in the /cache folder, but please do some research before you go deleting stuff at random. You may also try connecting it to adb, restarting in root mode, and running "adb uninstall com.lge.lgdmsclient," or "adb hide com.lge.lgdmsclient." Basically, you need to find a method of preventing the update from initiating automatically upon boot.
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I initally declined the update when the notification came up, it is currently being forced down my throat lol. thank you for the info, I really hope i can get around this incredibly annoying issue.
mmarsie said:
I initally declined the update when the notification came up, it is currently being forced down my throat lol. thank you for the info, I really hope i can get around this incredibly annoying issue.
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Did you have Developer Options enabled, and did you have "Automatic software updates" set to OFF in developer options?
I'm not rooted yet. I'm seriously scared right now that I'm going to auto update on next reboot. I'm doing everything I can to backup all my stuff and somehow safely do DirtySanta without being at risk of updating.
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Did you have Developer Options enabled, and did you have "Automatic software updates" set to OFF in developer options?
I'm seriously scared right now that I'm going to auto update on next reboot. I'm doing everything I can to backup all my stuff and somehow safely do DirtySanta without being at risk of updating.
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yes and yes to both your questions. this was a 100% forced update even though dev options and auto update was set to off
mmarsie said:
yes and yes to both your questions. this was a 100% forced update even though dev options and auto update was set to off
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This is terrible.
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This is terrible.
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yeah I'm lived right now, currently with out a cellphone untill i test some of the above options another user posted. Here's hoping
Does anyone know whether a phone with this update can still use the dirtysanta exploit to root, or is that also broken by the security update?