Hey guys,
I need developers who are dedicated and willing to help startup this Else Intuition port to the HTC Hero Community. Is anyone currently working on this? If not, let's get started!
Take a look at this.....
http://mobile.engadget.com/2009/10/...mobile-unveil-else-intuition-the-linux-based/
<<Video>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Au8mfkzbo&feature=related
interesting. is there a ROM out?
I remember looking at that last year.
anyone know of any developers willing to help port??...
No there isn't a ROM out that I know of. Still researching trying to get a source or something...lol
Dude, then why are you trying to rally devs? lol Get the source first.
This is just a youtube link lol, its impossible to even attempt porting without having anything to port.
This is still experimental so I don't think we will get our hands on it any time soon. If it really is a Linux based OS and we get the source, a port is probably possible.
Most are convinced its vaporware... you can't port anything without something to port it from.
First of I want to say thanks to all the DEVS for putting in all the time and effort to these projects! I was curious if someone could point me in the right direction as to where I can study up and learn how to build and develop. If you personally have a favorite site that you have used yourself or what not. I have the utmost respect for your skills and would really love to learn how to do this! and join the ranks of DEVELOPER. The machine I will be using is a MacBook Pro w/ 2.2 i7 and 8G of ram and OSX 10.6.8 . Thank you in advance!
Develope what?
Apps?
Cake?
Kernels?
ROMs?
Sorry should have clarified, ROMS and kernels.
INSPIRE 4G (RCMix 3D RUNNY 4.0) And lovin every minute of it
alright guys, i'm just here to provide a place for Developers to provide status updates, share ideas, and talk about their progress on porting Sense ICS. of course, regular users are welcomed to post here as well.
the point of this thread is so that we can have discussions about ICS Sense without feeling guilty of being off topic in feb's thread (i know i felt guitly lol).
point of the thread:
Discuss Sense ICS, like post RUU's, leaks, etc
Share ideas, files and such
Developers please post your updates here
Our Team Status posted below
So, Developers, please post your status, and continue to post updates
Users, please post interesting things you find, or other on topic subjects.
May the flames be with you always...
-Team Inferno-
FAQ - THE BIG PICTURE
What is ICS?
ICS is Ice Cream Sandwich - Google's latest version of Android.
- Some of the very latest phones on the market already have it installed. e.g HTC One series
- Some slightly older phones will eventually be 'upgraded' to ICS e.g Desire HD, but this may be a number of months away, and promised 'upgrades' have sometimes never been delivered at all.
- If / when it does arrive for Desire HD it may not happen for everybody at the same time, sometimes it's carrier by carrier, and finally 'retail' (non carrier branded) handsets that get the upgrade last!
- If / when it does arrive, it will be overlayed with HTC's Sense (some like it, some don't)
- In the meantime, folks are working on getting ICS on your Desire HD BEFORE it's officially released for the phone, with and without Sense (giving you a choice)
So why don't some features work?
Well, the ICS being used on Desire HD is 'taken' from officially released ICS phones like the HTC One range, or 'leaked' ROMS from similar phones.
However, those phones have slightly different hardware and features than the Desire HD - so they aren't exactly the same. This means that parts of the software have to be 'ported' to work on the Desire HD.
OK, so why is porting so difficult?
The Android O/S is 'open source' meaning that anybody can see the actual source code for themselves, and see how it all works. They can modify it and adapt it to suit their needs (good).
Phone manufacturers USE Android in their phones, but they don't have to make all their own 'extra' software open source too. They like to protect their software by keeping it secret (not so good). There are many reasons why they do this, both good and bad, but it makes porting difficult.
When developers don't have access to the source code for parts of a phone, they have to write their own!... this means they have to have highly detailed knowledge of the phone, its hardware and other software components. Sometimes they can try things by trial and error, sometimes they have knowledge from a similar phone, and sometimes they just don't know.
This is the most common issue for 'ported' ROMS. Things like Power Management, Camera, WiFi, GPS etc are the things that make one manufacturer's phone stand out from another, and therefore end up 'secret'.
This does not mean that they will never work, it only means that they take longer to get working.
Who does the porting?
The actual porting is done by surprisingly few people:
- Some guys who know 'inside secrets'
- Some guys who are just great developers but who don't have the secrets
- Some guys who can develop but need a little guidance
- Some of them are 'great guys' helping the community (and keeping their own skills up to date)
- Some of them have other motives (good and bad)
- Some of them form teams to work on different ports
Why don't all the developers work together?
Developers are people - they have all the same issues as everybody else:
- Some like working alone
- Some feel that other developers standards aren't high enough
- Some are trying to fix a specific problem that THEY want fixed
- Some teams have different goals (one team might be aiming for a port that can work on 5 different phones, whilst another team are focused on a single phone. One team may want a totally 'clean' ROM and another want a ROM with lots of customisation options built in)
- Sometimes, people just don't get along with each other
I thought the ROM makers did all this work?
You'd be wrong.
The ROM developers use the ported code to make their ROMs. Sometimes they can choose different components from the various development teams to build a ROM.
Imagine a motor car:
1) The 'developers' make the engine, wheels, steering, chassis etc
2) The ROM Makers build their car choosing the components they need for their ROM
3) The 'Modders' add custom paint colours, fancy headlights, custom interior etc
The 'developers' are not smarter than the ROM makers, and the ROM makers are not smarter than the modders. They just have different roles (and some people do all three roles!)
Team Inferno's Status Update
Team Inferno's Status:
Got permission from zfr3eak and the team to port his Sense ICS from the Desire HD forums found here
Got HTC Endeavor RUU leak just in case
CURRENTLY WORKING ON HTC ONE V PORT, SENSE 4.0
mine,CAUSE IM THE BOSS!
Another reserved.....for ME!
reserved because idk why ya do this :0
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...Reserved for the hell of it...
alexmdz said:
...Reserved for the hell of it...
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Lol, finally Ima add a real comment.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader
Ok I remembered lol
Currently got permission from the RcMix Team (CapyChimp and Robocik) with their ICS Sense 3.6 Ice Rom... (Will post link)
...and!!!
There's more!!!!
You betcha!!!!
Only cuz I'm on a 2 week vacation and got nothing to do...
...and finally...
Waiting on permission from (proxuser, Blackout Ics XL)
hoping I can get it to boot up and start from there
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alexmdz said:
Ok I remembered lol
Currently got permission from the RcMix Team (CapyChimp and Robocik) with their ICS Sense 3.6 Ice Rom... (Will post link)
...and!!!
There's more!!!!
You betcha!!!!
Only cuz I'm on a 2 week vacation and got nothing to do...
...and finally...
Waiting on permission from (proxuser, Blackout Ics XL)
hoping I can get it to boot up and start from there
Sent from my HTC ...Awesome... Glacier using xda premium
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just curious, but how are you going to get it to boot? :/
(not flaming, sharing ideas and questions)
late for my reserve , damn u MW3
Wait alex, are you working with us or against us?
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader
blackwing182 said:
late for my reserve , damn u MW3
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Love that game
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader
would you guys be able to port Sense 4.0? or would it be using a entirely different kernel setup.
Mr.Highway said:
Love that game
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
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Leader
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love it 2 but ill spent all the day playing it, idont work 2 day ( free day )
alfadog77 said:
would you guys be able to port Sense 4.0? or would it be using a entirely different kernel setup.
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When we figure out what we will be doing, they'll be done updates here
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader
alexmdz said:
Ok I remembered lol
Currently got permission from the RcMix Team (CapyChimp and Robocik) with their ICS Sense 3.6 Ice Rom... (Will post link)
...and!!!
There's more!!!!
You betcha!!!!
Only cuz I'm on a 2 week vacation and got nothing to do...
...and finally...
Waiting on permission from (proxuser, Blackout Ics XL)
hoping I can get it to boot up and start from there
Sent from my HTC ...Awesome... Glacier using xda premium
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did you compile the new ICS sense patched kernel?
saranhai said:
just curious, but how are you going to get it to boot? :/
(not flaming, sharing ideas and questions)
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I'm using everything stock as base even the kernel but like capychimp advices and I've seen any little change breaks with this RCMix rom I'm not trying to implement alot of their tweaks to begin with just a stock ICS and by boot I meant waiting on my tester phone from eBay I don't trust myself just yet to test it on my phone lol
Mr.Highway said:
Wait alex, are you working with us or against us?
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader
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Mr.Highway your the one that helped me and showed me how to port so ofcourse we are all on the same ship if I had $$$$ to just buy an ICS phone I would jump ship just like Feb lol but since I don't for now this will have to do.
alexmdz said:
Mr.Highway your the one that helped me and showed me how to port so ofcourse we are all on the same ship if I had $$$$ to just buy an ICS phone I would jump ship just like Feb lol but since I don't for now this will have to do.
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I just wasn't sure who was going where.
I have the endevour full ROM an everything, if that helps
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader
blackwing182 said:
did you compile the new ICS sense patched kernel?
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I pm'ed u blackwing but I am using the stock3.6 kernel
Hey guys, to start out with, I won an invite through one of the races, and as soon as I get the invite, the order will be placed
I want to get back into development and wondering what kind of roms are you guys looking for,
One idea is porting over the M8 Sense rom but will anyone use it
I want your input of what you want to see, so other devs here also know what to work on. Also if anyone wants to help me with the sense rom once i get started, just PM me
MadMax said:
Hey guys, to start out with, I won an invite through one of the races, and as soon as I get the invite, the order will be placed
I want to get back into development and wondering what kind of roms are you guys looking for,
One idea is porting over the M8 Sense rom but will anyone use it
I want your input of what you want to see, so other devs here also know what to work on. Also if anyone wants to help me with the sense rom once i get started, just PM me
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Yeah I would maybe try it if stable . I still waiting for Paranoid for my One . At the moment I m testing a Slim Rom who work fine
Waiting for a Rom compiled with cclang or linaro toolchain for maximum performance.
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