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Pledge a bounty for Virtuous ROM

OK Guys, I am one of those guys who gets everyone's smart phone in my local community and pimps them out.
I have had more MT4G's (not SLIDE - Glacier) brought to me because of the Virtuous ROM. The General Public love the Virtuous ROM. I happen to really like it as well. I have been through every stage and mod of HTC Sense. I love Sense!
Here I am now with a MT4GS. NO Custom ROMs. I am sick of checking this Dev Section for a custom ROM(s) and decided to do something about it.
I have donated $10 to the Virtuous Team and requested that they make a donation section for MT4GS aka DoubleShot.
The team NEEDS a device to make substantial development possible. That is understandable.
I have donated just over 10 USD.
Confirmation number: 49Y66853EW340214C
I will donate another $15 in a two or three days. I hope others will follow.
VIRTUOUS ROM FOR MyTouch 4G/DOUBLESHOT DONATION LINK​

10-15$ here.

I'll pledge $10

this is a good idea. i think i'll start a page for cyanogenmod 7
remember guys if your pledge it post those confirmation numbers like he did.

Aeikozz said:
this is a good idea. i think i'll start a page for cyanogenmod 7
remember guys if your pledge it post those confirmation numbers like he did.
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Just Pledge an amount until the 1st Post says differently as virtuousROM needs a to separate regular donations from MT4GS-DoubleShot development.
When I donated, while chatting on IRC this AM, I could not make a comment to identify that the donation was for this development.
I was told to hold off on donations and just get pledges until they could identify the purpose of the donation on PayPal.
EDIT: Link is up ready for donations
(I hope all of you are as excited as I am to get closer to having the Virtuous ROM on our MT4GS's!!!!)

Aeikozz said:
this is a good idea. i think i'll start a page for cyanogenmod 7
remember guys if your pledge it post those confirmation numbers like he did.
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I was going to get CM running on our device, but I've been feeling lazy, particularly because I don't want to run CM. I might do it soon.

DEFINITELY count me in for $20 towards Virtuous - it was by far the best ROM I ever ran on my MT4G! I'd love to see what it could do on the MT4GS! I can't wait for OC!

unclespoon said:
DEFINITELY count me in for $20 towards Virtuous - it was by far the best ROM I ever ran on my MT4G! I'd love to see what it could do on the MT4GS! I can't wait for OC!
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I agree on best ROM for MT4G as well.
Sorry I did not have a chance to post link up until now. I was actually with a friend who has the latest Virtuous ROM with BluMagic theme on his MT4G. I swear his phone performs better than my MT4GS!
I hope we get enough donations to get the ball rolling on our MT4GS's!

I just released the first mytouch slide Rom. Enjoy folks.
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium

ILL HAVE A SENSE ROM UP BY TONIGHT LADSSSSSS
Sent from my Desire Z

IF U WANNA TEST PM ME
Sent from my Desire Z

Sweet. PM sent! Glad to see things are finally starting to happen! I can't wait to get a pure Sense ROM on the MT4GS!

Hehe i only need a couple, just to test if network etc works and if it boots
Sent from my Desire Z

xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Hehe i only need a couple, just to test if network etc works and if it boots
Sent from my Desire Z
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Does that mean your testing is complete?

I could do it, but I would need testers, as I don't have a mt4gs...
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Whoareyou said:
I could do it, but I would need testers, as I don't have a mt4gs...
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I'd be happy to test that out for you but it seems like a lot of devs who don't own the phone run into boot problems and give up quickly. But I'm more than willing to try flashing as many versions and you'd like to make! Thank you!

You guys will have a sense rom soon, just testing out the dualcore stuff and boot.img and checking updater scripts.
Sent from my Desire Z

xT4Z1N4TRx said:
You guys will have a sense rom soon, just testing out the dualcore stuff and boot.img and checking updater scripts.
Sent from my Desire Z
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Sweet thank you! Any chance it has the customizable lockscreen like the sensation's ROM?

If u have issues with the updater script pm me I will send you mine that has been tested. Confirmed working. Let me know.
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium

Donated $15 more just now?
Confirmation number: 30808057TJ530752G

Lack of AOSP for Sensation - I'm going crazy!

Why is it that ever since the Sensation has come out that there is very little to no AOSP support and/or development for it?
The closest we ever seem to have are Sense-stripped ROMs, and it's so annoying.
Now the CM9 team has stopped Sensation development? What the hell is going on?
Is it the Sensation's architecture that renders it just that difficult for our very respected and talented developers to provide such content?
I despise Sense with the deepest passion imaginable. May someone please explain the lack of AOSP support for this amazing device?
Excuse my ranting but I can't hold out for much longer without knowing a clear answer.

i agree with u

Dude, seriously get a grip. Our very own devs are working on it and have a 2nd alpha release already out. Look in the dev section and you'll see the be from virtuous. It's got it's bugs, but it's we'll on its way to stardom. Forget cm9, those people don't know what it means to finish what they start. Take stock in our devs, as they are working their butt off as we speak.
And yes, it's no easy task. Ics is radically new and different. Give it some time and some more Htc release before we have a solid rom.
Matt

First off, yes there is an alpha AOSP ICS from the virtuous team that looks promising. Second, CM did not drop the sensation. Dunno where you got that info. Kmobs just posted this on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/160440102626136066

mrg02d said:
Dude, seriously get a grip. Our very own devs are working on it and have a 2nd alpha release already out. Look in the dev section and you'll see the be from virtuous. It's got it's bugs, but it's we'll on its way to stardom. Forget cm9, those people don't know what it means to finish what they start. Take stock in our devs, as they are working their butt off as we speak.
And yes, it's no easy task. Ics is radically new and different. Give it some time and some more Htc release before we have a solid rom.
Matt
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For sure, I understand, I'm not trying to be ignorant, I just love AOSP.
Also, with my previous Android device being the myTouch 4G, it received an AOSP ROM, actually a variety of them rather quickly.
Like I said I respect our developers and love them to death, I'm just having AOSP withdrawals. HTC Sense is tearing me apart

moh0 said:
First off, yes there is an alpha AOSP ICS from the virtuous team that looks promising. Second, CM did not drop the sensation. Dunno where you got that info. Kmobs just posted this on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/160440102626136066
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I knew about the Alpha ROM, just wish it wasn't the only one in development. I believe I saw the CM9 info in another thread. Apparently it was mistaken.

moh0 said:
First off, yes there is an alpha AOSP ICS from the virtuous team that looks promising. Second, CM did not drop the sensation. Dunno where you got that info. Kmobs just posted this on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/160440102626136066
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I'll believe it when I see it. If he's telling the truth, then communcation is key...his g+ paints a different picture. One with the GN getting all the attention.
Oh well, I feel team virtuous is well ahead of him anyways and they also are more than one or two dudes working on a charity case.
Matt

mrg02d said:
I'll believe it when I see it. If he's telling the truth, then communcation is key...his g+ paints a different picture. One with the GN getting all the attention.
Oh well, I feel team virtuous is well ahead of him anyways and they also are more than one or two dudes working on a charity case.
Matt
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And I thank the Virtuous team for tackling the project. No one else seems to care, guess Sense has everyone by the neck.

mrg02d said:
I'll believe it when I see it. If he's telling the truth, then communcation is key...his g+ paints a different picture. One with the GN getting all the attention.
Oh well, I feel team virtuous is well ahead of him anyways and they also are more than one or two dudes working on a charity case.
Matt
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I highly doubt a respected developer such as kmobs would be lying to our faces. While the way CM team operates might be infuriating to us flashaholics, they are secretive for a reason. They want a high quality release with initially all internal efforts. And hey, its gotten them to a millions users, so they must be doing something right.

moh0 said:
I highly doubt a respected developer such as kmobs would be lying to our faces. While the way CM team operates might be infuriating to us flashaholics, they are secretive for a reason. They want a high quality release with initially all internal efforts. And hey, its gotten them to a millions users, so they must be doing something right.
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+1
No one from cm7 has said that development has stopped. These devs have lives and other things to do and other problems to deal with. Kmobs doesn't want to release a buggy Rom which I think is good.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium

When you pay the CM developers a salary, then you can complain about their release schedules.
When they give you their work for free, it'll come out when they are ready for it to come out and you ought to be grateful.
If it doesn't come out at all, you've got nothing to complain about because you didn't do anything to help it come out.

Skipjacks said:
When you pay the CM developers a salary, then you can complain about their release schedules.
When they give you their work for free, it'll come out when they are ready for it to come out and you ought to be grateful.
If it doesn't come out at all, you've got nothing to complain about because you didn't do anything to help it come out.
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News flash, they are playing with the idea of charging for things in the future. They want to have their own marketplace and make money on the side for this and that. Check Kmobs g+ for more information. They're going to have to get used to quite a bit more if they want to be successful. Communication is key, and in this case, king. They better get used to a whole lot more the second they receive money for an app.
Also, no one is *****ing about not having cm9 yet, they are *****ing about the secrecy as to whether or not it is even still a possibility. I believe it was mentioned that many other OLDER phones have some version of cm9 already, yet we don't.
Also, they never said cm7 was over either, yet the consensus says that it is. We've heard zip officially about cm9 or cm7.
If this is how they run their future paid for apps business, I'll steer clear as will most. As for now, I'm sure they enjoy the free beers they get from all the donations. It would be a nice gesture of them to give an update about cm9.
Aside from Kmobs and company, it's refreshing to see a group of people working hard on an ics aosp. Once they get a few more things ironed out, I'm sure they will see a lot more donations coming their way.

mrg02d said:
News flash, they are playing with the idea of charging for things in the future. They want to have their own marketplace and make money on the side for this and that. Check Kmobs g+ for more information. They're going to have to get used to quite a bit more if they want to be successful. Communication is key, and in this case, king. They better get used to a whole lot more the second they receive money for an app.
Also, no one is *****ing about not having cm9 yet, they are *****ing about the secrecy as to whether or not it is even still a possibility. I believe it was mentioned that many other OLDER phones have some version of cm9 already, yet we don't.
Also, they never said cm7 was over either, yet the consensus says that it is. We've heard zip officially about cm9 or cm7.
If this is how they run their future paid for apps business, I'll steer clear as will most. As for now, I'm sure they enjoy the free beers they get from all the donations. It would be a nice gesture of them to give an update about cm9.
Aside from Kmobs and company, it's refreshing to see a group of people working hard on an ics aosp. Once they get a few more things ironed out, I'm sure they will see a lot more donations coming their way.
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And I'm stoked about the Virtuous project.
I also understand these concerns of "you're not doing much to help" yet all I'm saying, is that I think a powerful and amazing device such as the Sensation should have more of an AOSP ROM variety. Most other devices have all kinds of AOSP ROMs.
I wish all of us, the Sensation community, would have worried more about AOSP ROMs other than our huge database of Sense based ROMs. Don't get me wrong, however, our Sense ROMs are absolutely amazing and they've helped my patience along with, I'm sure, many other user's patience as well.

This is what i have been thinking since i moved from mytouch 4g to sensation. I just don't know why but it looks like sensation users/developers is not interested in MIUI rom ( i only see 1 MIUI rom, and it not fully working, no update recently).

tritran18518 said:
This is what i have been thinking since i moved from mytouch 4g to sensation. I just don't know why but it looks like sensation users/developers is not interested in MIUI rom ( i only see 1 MIUI rom, and it not fully working, no update recently).
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Actually, the MIUI ROM in the dev section has been updated as of a few days ago. Also there is another highly functional MIUI ROM floating around but linking to it is forbidden. Hit up google if interested.

I think CyanogenMod has to be secretive to function.
You make a good point, I haven't seen hardly any AOSP roms for the sensation besides cyanogenmod. Although I think cyanogenmod 7 is ridiculously fast, and it's aosp, I quite like it...and cm9 beta is available for the sensation, but I agree with the fact that they don't announce ANYTHING...their last update on cm9 was like december 9th.
However, if you think of it from their perspective, can you possibly imagine releasing a buggy beta rom to THAT many people? I mean, the first rom a lot of people hear about is cyanogenmod, so all of the new people would flash that, and we all know how many new people can't read a set of clear instructions...
So, i think that it is almost required for them to keep it on the down low, to avoid mass confusion and complaining from every single user who can't read...It's like when you read the comments morons leave in the market...
anyways, sorry to rant. but Yeah, I think that they pretty much have to be more secretive, not all of their users are active forum members seeking to better the community and not be ignorant.

I've always been curious why A2DP bluetooth and the camera are always the hardest things to fix on most phones when compiling an AOSP ROM. I thought the ROM source would help with that, but I don't know exactly how it works.

DeezNotes said:
I've always been curious why A2DP bluetooth and the camera are always the hardest things to fix on most phones when compiling an AOSP ROM. I thought the ROM source would help with that, but I don't know exactly how it works.
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From what I understand, both of those things (including wifi hotspot) are kernel related. It's hard to dev's to fix those things without the proper kernel source.

aNYthing24 said:
From what I understand, both of those things (including wifi hotspot) are kernel related. It's hard to dev's to fix those things without the proper kernel source.
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Ah that helped me understand a lot more.

just an fyi that xda isn't the only place to find roms...

Team Inferno is looking for testers-come check if you made it.

If you want to test roms for us or think you have some skills you can provide from graphics, developing or are good with public relations (ya you read that correct). Leave your info here, an I'll get back to you. Thanks
After talking it over with saranhai. here's what we decided on, for the none of the choices are personal picks or one sided.
Jwhood
Estallings15
Aawillma
Maresillesw
If your up there, pm me to let me know if your still willing.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader

I am pretty good with public relations, what info do you need? I would also be will to test the roms themselves and i have a basic knowledge of how the damn rom works but would be willing to learn
PMing me would be great

I'm game for testing and PR. I, unfortunately, don't have time for much else.
Let me know if I can be of any use.

Im down been following ya lls work,this new rom is great
sent from the home of the "WIRE"

jwhood said:
Im down been following ya lls work,this new rom is great
sent from the home of the "WIRE"
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Well what can you do?
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader

Pm sent!!!!
sent from the home of the "WIRE"

I'm a crack flasher and heavy user so I may be of use for testing. Don't do much in the way of wifi calling or voip calling though. I have a pretty open mind for types of roms (sense, vanilla, other) so I don't mind trying a little of everything Also have pulled my device from the brink of brickage numerous times which is a pretty useful skill to have lol. This felt like an interview and I don't even know what the job is.......

I would love to test roms for your team

Thanks guys for your willingness and support! ^.^
Sent from my Infernalized Glacier!
-Team Inferno

hello team inferno
i would love to test rom for u
tell me what i have to do

I'm always down to test for u guys, holla at me
Sent from my HTC ENR_U using xda premium

whoever wants to test ARHD 7.0.2 for us:
please post in the ARHD thread, then shoot me a PM, and report any bugs you find.
Thanks!
-Team Inferno-​

Jessooca said:
Hey i am very interested in being a room tester for you! I will definitely provide you with excellent feedback and am highly into PR i run my own restaurant and continuously am involved with the public. So i love that interaction. I know what should be in a good ROM.... And i have had almost all the roms on my phone at some point! Email me at [email protected]
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Just a friendly tip, but I would probably edit your post to remove your email and just send it in a PM. These pages get crawled and indexed by search spiders and then your personal email is available on the www and the spam builds up over time.

itmustbejj said:
Just a friendly tip, but I would probably edit your post to remove your email and just send it in a PM. These pages get crawled and indexed by search spiders and then your personal email is available on the www and the spam builds up over time.
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Just a friendly tip. Edit your quote not to show her email so that its not listed twice in this forum.

Tester
I would love to be a tester for you guys. Im great with pr, 10 years construction so interactions with contractors. Fast learner as well. Thank you either way.

I'm Down to test roms for you
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium

Congrats Testers
PMs have been sent.
Thank you all for willing to share your device, time, and resources with us.
-Team Inferno-​

Are you guys still looking for testers?
...Awesome...

Let me know if your still looking for testers because I flash roms like krayzie
Sent from my HTC Glacier using xda premium

Until we lose some people, we have our testers.thanks for y'all offers
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team inferno
Leader

[ROM][S4][TMOUS] Axiom S 2.8 8/17/12

Couldnt find a link to this, so when I did I saved it. Maybe other people want it too?
IMO its the best Sense Rom that is out. Just that fact that it has stopped being supported and I still use it daily blows my mind. I switch between this and CM10 because of the camera and just Sense stuff.
Also can we get someone to support this build? fix the few bugs that are left ?
Just curious...credit to whoever made the rom the axiom team even tho they fell off the face of the earth and abandoned us ='[
Download:
Link to original thread:
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PC Jona said:
Couldnt find a link to this, so when I did I saved it. Maybe other people want it too?
IMO its the best Sense Rom that is out. Just that fact that it has stopped being supported and I still use it daily blows my mind. I switch between this and CM10 because of the camera and just Sense stuff.
Also can we get someone to support this build? fix the few bugs that are left ?
Just curious...credit to whoever made the rom the axiom team even tho they fell off the face of the earth and abandoned us ='[
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dude you can't post the ROM in XDA anymore... I'm sure a member of the AXIOM team will you why soon enough. you should take down the links.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium

Why would anyone want this anyways? It's old and development has stopped. Team Axiom is dead. Please remove the links.

This is what Behold_this said in my thread
"Just to let you guys know you should exchange this rom via p.m. as it contains software built from Coredroid Suite Tools, which is no longer allowed to be posted on xda. Thus all works containing cd suite or built from cd suite are banned as well."
If it was to be brought back you would have to completely remove anything Coredroid related, and get permission..

so thats why.
its staying up.
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PC Jona said:
so thats why.
its staying up.
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It would be in your best interest to remove these links...unless you like dealing with moderators. Just sayin
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PC Jona said:
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so thats why.
its staying up.
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Posting that link and stating that's why it stays up doesn't really make sense. Does anyone see the logic or is it just me.
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I'll make this really easy, you do not have permission to post our old rom pull it now! Moderator informed

Behold_this,
love your work on this. just a quick question if you have any plans for more One S roms, perhaps when JB drops?

Behold_this said:
I'll make this really easy, you do not have permission to post our old rom pull it now! Moderator informed
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So that's why.
It's not staying up.

xxquicksh0txx said:
So that's why.
It's not staying up.
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Two things:
1 - @quickshots: amazing, you made my night.
2 - @behold: I did love your work, do you have any plans or just moving along as is life?

xxquicksh0txx said:
So that's why.
It's not staying up.
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lol, boss.

Closed Source Project said:
Two things:
1 - @quickshots: amazing, you made my night.
2 - @behold: I did love your work, do you have any plans or just moving along as is life?
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Only plan for now is to enjoy the holidays with my wife and family. Merry Christmas guys!

Thread closed by request of creator of rom and for the fact that this rom contains material that is not allowed on xda.
Also removed some offensive post by OP.
Some ppl seem to think they are above the rules...
This is fail .

Great Rom to Port :)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043386
Just in case anyone needed an idea on what to port
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K7Cobb said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043386
Just in case anyone needed an idea on what to port
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium
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Porting a Sense ROM is way over MY head! Nice suggestion though.

There's an issue with that ROM. Look at the very bottom part of the OP thread.
Sharing Policy
None.
You are NOT allowed to use this rom as base, to take parts of this rom, or to port this ROM. Ever.
Sure I could port it and counter their sharing policy with the license of HTC but with all due respect to Virtuous team and an avid fan of their virtuous infinity I don't wanna upset them.

Riyal said:
There's an issue with that ROM. Look at the very bottom part of the OP thread.
Sharing Policy
None.
You are NOT allowed to use this rom as base, to take parts of this rom, or to port this ROM. Ever.
Sure I could port it and counter their sharing policy with the license of HTC but with all due respect to Virtuous team and an avid fan of their virtuous infinity I don't wanna upset them.
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That's rather ****-ish of them. Now I've lost any respect for them I had.

Yea I don't read a lot but y'all could take parts and build it from scratch. But still just a suggest
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Fuzi0719 said:
That's rather ****-ish of them. Now I've lost any respect for them I had.
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Yeah team virtuous can blow pole for that move
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K7Cobb said:
Yea I don't read a lot but y'all could take parts and build it from scratch. But still just a suggest
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium
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I'm afraid that would still violate copywright laws owned by "Virtuous Windows for Android". OH well, to each their own I suppose.

Lol I'm with Strapped
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Riyal said:
There's an issue with that ROM. Look at the very bottom part of the OP thread.
Sharing Policy
None.
You are NOT allowed to use this rom as base, to take parts of this rom, or to port this ROM. Ever.
Sure I could port it and counter their sharing policy with the license of HTC but with all due respect to Virtuous team and an avid fan of their virtuous infinity I don't wanna upset them.
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Virtuous is so bitter posting anything on XDA anymore; no wonder such a statement. If you really wanted them to allow porting, appealling in that thread will probably do the trick. When against the wall, It'd be hard to find a developer or team of developers to say no to openness.
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WeekendsR2Short said:
I'm afraid that would still violate copywright laws owned by "Virtuous Windows for Android". OH well, to each their own I suppose.
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They can't legally copyright their ROMs since 99% of it is already copyrighted by HTC and Google. There is nothing they can legally do to anybody who takes their ROM and does whatever they want with it. Even their kernels are open source, as required.

Fuzi0719 said:
They can't legally copyright their ROMs since 99% of it is already copyrighted by HTC and Google. There is nothing they can legally do to anybody who takes their ROM and does whatever they want with it. Even their kernels are open source, as required.
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But I feel its crappy. Kinda like at it look what I can do but nobody else can.
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Fuzi0719 said:
They can't legally copyright their ROMs since 99% of it is already copyrighted by HTC and Google. There is nothing they can legally do to anybody who takes their ROM and does whatever they want with it. Even their kernels are open source, as required.
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I know exactly where you're coming from & I agree wholeheartedly. Just throwing out a little sarcasm there. lol The only thing is, is we aren't supposed to without consent. Or that's what I've always thought anyhow.
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strapped365 said:
But I feel its crappy. Kinda like at it look what I can do but nobody else can.
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There's certainly no doubt about the crappiness factor involved. Of course I look at things differently than they do and would be PROUD to have mine or the team I'm on having just the thanks & credits for a solution to an issue. I kinda thought that was what android was all about. If a person is producing apps for money....now that's a different situation. JMO tho....

WeekendsR2Short said:
I know exactly where you're coming from & I agree wholeheartedly. Just throwing out a little sarcasm there. lol The only thing is, is we aren't supposed to without consent. Or that's what I've always thought anyhow.
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There's certainly no doubt about the crappiness factor involved. Of course I look at things differently than they do and would be PROUD to have mine or the team I'm on having just the thanks & credits for a solution to an issue. I kinda thought that was what android was all about. If a person is producing apps for money....now that's a different situation. JMO tho....
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It is an "unspoken rule" among Android devs to give credit where credit is due. Hell, there'd be no kanged anything if everyone took the attitude of Virtuous. What if HTC or Google took that attitude, Virtuous would be up the feces creek, no? I think their little pointy heads have gotten too big. There's tons of stuff in all of their ROMs that comes from other people, they depend on a host of devs that came before them to put out anything with their name on it.

Fuzi0719 said:
It is an "unspoken rule" among Android devs to give credit where credit is due. Hell, there'd be no kanged anything if everyone took the attitude of Virtuous. What if HTC or Google took that attitude, Virtuous would be up the feces creek, no? I think their little pointy heads have gotten too big. There's tons of stuff in all of their ROMs that comes from other people, they depend on a host of devs that came before them to put out anything with their name on it.
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I know where you all are coming from. And no it's 100% HTC. There are no items there which came from Virtuous Team. What they only had is the technique to extract the OS from the RRU and they believe that they deserve all rights with that ROM since
"if we didn't release it on public you all wouldn't have any ROM at all"
But meh... All that's left for me to not KANG their ROM is my gratitude because they delivered a sense 4.0 ROM in our device. I must admit I didn't consider getting this device if it weren't for their ROM so yeah as much as I like to bring it here there's another side of me which respects them

Riyal said:
I know where you all are coming from. And no it's 100% HTC. There are no items there which came from Virtuous Team. What they only had is the technique to extract the OS from the RRU and they believe that they deserve all rights with that ROM since
"if we didn't release it on public you all wouldn't have any ROM at all"
But meh... All that's left for me to not KANG their ROM is my gratitude because they delivered a sense 4.0 ROM in our device. I must admit I didn't consider getting this device if it weren't for their ROM so yeah as much as I like to bring it here there's another side of me which respects them
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I doubt they wrote all the tools they use to extract the ROMs or package or modify. That's what I mean by their dependency on other devs. They've become too arrogant.

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I doubt they wrote all the tools they use to extract the ROMs or package or modify. That's what I mean by their dependency on other devs. They've become too arrogant.
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There isn't a set of tools to pull a ROM.zip from an RUU. BUT they are the very first to reverse engineer the whole M10 thing HTC turned to in Sense 3+. Still with that being said I don't think ill ever touch another ROM that has anything to do with Team Virtuous because it seems to go against what open source is in my opinion.
Great tool = crappy attitude.
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Riyal said:
There's an issue with that ROM. Look at the very bottom part of the OP thread.
Sharing Policy
None.
You are NOT allowed to use this rom as base, to take parts of this rom, or to port this ROM. Ever.
Sure I could port it and counter their sharing policy with the license of HTC but with all due respect to Virtuous team and an avid fan of their virtuous infinity I don't wanna upset them.
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dont you need libs for msm8660?

From my understanding, XDA clamping down on ROM posting requirements drove Virtuous batty. Some defected to the "other" ROM posting site (not allowed to link it here) in bitterness, some joined other development teams, and a rarer bunch is still using the Virtuous name with closed statements such as the one mentioned just to demonstrate bitterness.
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mattlowry said:
dont you need libs for msm8660?
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I came to realize after I ported my 1st sense ROM that I don't really have to replace that much libs than I thought Actually there's more work on smali coding than replacing libs.

What about this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2071680 maybe these guys are OK?