[Q] Nougat on Sidekick 4G? - General Questions and Answers

This is a serious question, I am looking into what it would really take to get a new version of android working on a discontinued device.
Is porting the underlying kernel the main requirement?
Would using the open source kernel from gingerbread be helpful for porting?
How long would it take an indie dev to complete? if not indie, what size team is realistic?
What is an estimated total cost to complete this kind of project?
I am new to this space, any help would be greatly appreciated.
I found the T839 software here opensource.samsung. com

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[ROM-Dev]Else Intuition

Hey guys,
I need developers who are dedicated and willing to help startup this Else Intuition port to the HTC Hero Community. Is anyone currently working on this? If not, let's get started!
Take a look at this.....
http://mobile.engadget.com/2009/10/...mobile-unveil-else-intuition-the-linux-based/
<<Video>>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Au8mfkzbo&feature=related
interesting. is there a ROM out?
I remember looking at that last year.
anyone know of any developers willing to help port??...
No there isn't a ROM out that I know of. Still researching trying to get a source or something...lol
Dude, then why are you trying to rally devs? lol Get the source first.
This is just a youtube link lol, its impossible to even attempt porting without having anything to port.
This is still experimental so I don't think we will get our hands on it any time soon. If it really is a Linux based OS and we get the source, a port is probably possible.
Most are convinced its vaporware... you can't port anything without something to port it from.

DEVs: Interest in AOSP or CM-based ROM?

Devs, I've seen a lot of you working on ROMs that have Sense stripped out to a degree, but I've only seen 1 AOSP or CM based rom, and that's xkonni's CM9 port. At this moment, it's very rough, and he's needing some serious help. I don't have the experience to do it, but I thought I'd try to at least get the word out to some of you regarding the need. I think it'd be very beneficial for the One S community to get a port built from AOSP (or near-AOSP) source. HTC's software ties up vast amounts of resources and RAM that could be freed with a solid port/build.
Keep in mind, there are dev devices up for grabs over at RW. Any help that xkonni can get will surely be appreciated, and well only serve to further the One S community. This is a great phone, and hopefully in due time we'll start seeing more attention being directed towards this phone.
In summary: DEVs, please consider helping the cause.
nickmv said:
Devs, I've seen a lot of you working on ROMs that have Sense stripped out to a degree, but I've only seen 1 AOSP or CM based rom, and that's xkonni's CM9 port. At this moment, it's very rough, and he's needing some serious help. I don't have the experience to do it, but I thought I'd try to at least get the word out to some of you regarding the need. I think it'd be very beneficial for the One S community to get a port built from AOSP (or near-AOSP) source. HTC's software ties up vast amounts of resources and RAM that could be freed with a solid port/build.
Keep in mind, there are dev devices up for grabs over at RW. Any help that xkonni can get will surely be appreciated, and well only serve to further the One S community. This is a great phone, and hopefully in due time we'll start seeing more attention being directed towards this phone.
In summary: DEVs, please consider helping the cause.
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I would love to help the cause but I already used my upgrade to get the SGS2. Im in the process of getting a device tree going for that device at the moment. Without an actual device i cant do much in terms of help.
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KitKat for HTC Thunderbolt

With Kitkat being ported to so many older devices because of the lowered system requirements, I figured its time we get one on the ThunderBolt. I by no means can do this on my own, so that is why I am starting this thread. I will try to reach out to as many devs as possible to get this going. Just a little about myself, Ive done basic ROM developement on a few devices, the most notable being the 2 generations of the Nexus 7. Over the past few months I have greatly expanded my knowledge and capabilities with android. The extent of my coding knowledge is basic Java, a little bit of C++, and arduino, which is why I need help for this. I see this as both a learning opportunity for me as well as a chance to participate in expanding the Thunderbolt dev community. I'm mainly looking for somone who can help with kernel and radio develpement, and someone who can help with porting the actual software over. The reason I need these people is because I have no experience in kernel development, and as for the actual developement of a KitKat rom, I'm sure its more complex then downloading KitKat source and throwing in the Thunderbolt device trees. I've been researching the topic and havent found much useful information. If you feel you can help support the effort please contact me.
Email: [email protected]
Developers willing to contribute:
(will add as people offer)
frap129 said:
With Kitkat being ported to so many older devices because of the lowered system requirements, I figured its time we get one on the ThunderBolt. I by no means can do this on my own, so that is why I am starting this thread. I will try to reach out to as many devs as possible to get this going. Just a little about myself, Ive done basic ROM developement on a few devices, the most notable being the 2 generations of the Nexus 7. Over the past few months I have greatly expanded my knowledge and capabilities with android. The extent of my coding knowledge is basic Java, a little bit of C++, and arduino, which is why I need help for this. I see this as both a learning opportunity for me as well as a chance to participate in expanding the Thunderbolt dev community. I'm mainly looking for somone who can help with kernel and radio develpement, and someone who can help with porting the actual software over. The reason I need these people is because I have no experience in kernel development, and as for the actual developement of a KitKat rom, I'm sure its more complex then downloading KitKat source and throwing in the Thunderbolt device trees. I've been researching the topic and havent found much useful information. If you feel you can help support the effort please contact me.
Email: [email protected]
Developers willing to contribute:
(will add as people offer)
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im waiting for a long time,thank you a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you can also try to transplant from msm8655 device,thats easier than bulid it.
chongbos said:
im waiting for a long time,thank you a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you can also try to transplant from msm8655 device,thats easier than bulid it.
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I assume by transplant you mean just try to flash a rom for another device with simmilar specs? (Same MSM8655 CPU, Same amount of ram, etc)
Kitkat would be awesome!
I'll test whatever you throw up here.
That's about all I'm good for. Sorry.
you can try contact santod here, but need register
http://forums.infectedrom.com/forumdisplay.php/79-Thunderbolt-Android-Development
He's last man standing Thunderbolt expert developer...
but i hear He already switch to HTC One project n leave Thunderbolt.
it very exciting news if can be true:good:
Ive contacted a few members who have experience with either porting or the thunderbolt, none of wich have responded as of yet.
her you can try :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4310221
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4471805
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4395946
hope they reply...
guinzo said:
you can try contact santod here, but need register
http://forums.infectedrom.com/forumdisplay.php/79-Thunderbolt-Android-Development
He's last man standing Thunderbolt expert developer...
but i hear He already switch to HTC One project n leave Thunderbolt.
it very exciting news if can be true:good:
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Santod was the reason why I loved my thunderbolt. I still have it but rarely use it. Sadly the screen is cracked but it was always a reliable phone.
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I'm sure there are more than a few people who would contribute to the cause of getting AOSP and CM11 on this phone. My old fascinate has it and so do all my other phones since.
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TtWEAK said:
I'm sure there are more than a few people who would contribute to the cause of getting AOSP and CM11 on this phone. My old fascinate has it and so do all my other phones since.
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There definitely are, but the difficulty of getting data on AOSP for this device, coupled with the age, current ownership/userbase, and developer interest translates to probably not. It's okay though, it was a great ride while it lasted.

[SIGNUP] [DEVELOPMENT] signup sheet for aosp build team

The vast majority of us seem to want CM11, myself included. So, If you're decently capable, let me know! I fully understand @Angel_666 's frustration, namely why he's waiting to see tw kitkat - being a lone dev probably sucks, and trying to make a 4.4 port based on 4.2.2 x86 things with incomplete sources is insanely difficult. Let's change that. Stop being a part of the "gimme gimme" crowd, come do something about it!
For to-be Developers:
You're expected to have at least a basic understanding of Linux (command line). If you don't possess such an understanding, you're in way over your head, as even the advanced experience a kryptonite effect with the intel clovertrail platform. Basic understanding doesn't necessarily mean you need to know every single piece of a kernel. Just know your basic commands (such as cd, mkdir, etc). There are people, including myself, willing to teach you how to compile from source as long as you have this foundation. NOTE; If you only meet the VERY basic criteria, you will be required to do a cm11 build before being added to this list. Meaning, have someone walk you through it, or follow this guide for D2LTE. (you can replace d2lte with a device you have) If you get a feel for it, welcome to the team.
the exception to this rule is if you have valuable experience which, though might not be android perse, is definitely wanted.
For Testers:
If you want to be a tester, you're expected to be at least what's known as a "power user". Meaning, don't just say "bla bla bla is broken". Logs logs logs! Help debug!
For ALL:
Know how to use Google. Actually try to find what you need before asking about it, otherwise we clog things up with unnecessary questions/answers.
Now that the guidelines are down, some words of encouragement!
If we can just get our foot in the door, we can blow it wide open and pave the road for other roms (such as omni, aokp, beanstalk) which will be SIGNIFICANTLY easier to port with a solid foundation.
Comment if you're interested.
Members so far:
DEVELOPERS:
@Restl3ss
@Nonta72
@moonbutt74
@CAG-man
@rodbacon
@Rubenyz
@shadowsiul
-free spot
-free spot
-free spot
*note there is no limit to how many developers can join. Free spot is placed there mainly as a place holder*
Testers:
P5200:
@christty31
@bithunter_99
-free spot
-free spot
P5210:
@mzheng086
-free spot
-free spot
-free spot
P5220:
@javee
-free spot
-free spot
-free spot
*tester places are limited*
I can be a tester for 5210!
for P5200 i can test!
I want to be (somehow) a dev :silly:
Is that possible ?
You're expected to have at least a basic understanding of Linux (command line)
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About the commands, I've NO problem with them
Basic understanding doesn't necessarily mean you need to know every single piece of a kernel. Just know your basic commands (such as cd, mkdir, etc)
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There are people, including myself, willing to teach you how to compile from source as long as you have this foundation.
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That would be welcome since "We never ended learning"
Post the rom as it is
Restl3ss,
please post the rom as you have/as it is no matter how clunky it may be.
i will accept it as a cwm/twrp backup if that's how it needs to be.
upload it to a regular/decent/respectable hosting site. dev-host, androidfilehost
cloud servers for me at least are unacceptable.
i will need the original [angel's] boot image and your [yours] boot image.
i have no patience for the build process [rom]. i prefer to do things in my own way.
i am willing to help provided the above conditions are met.
thank you for reading.
m
I'm a ("to-be") developer, and I would also like to test it...
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moonbutt74 said:
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i want to help if you guys are willing to teach. i have a linux distro setup to build android but jsut goofing around on it. i know my way around on the terminal. i would love to help.
I've never done any android stuff, but have been modding and building custom Linux kernels for years. Getting suck of this tablet as-is, so happy to help.
I'm a bit in the same situation as Nonta72...
I know the basic programming things and Linux commands but no experience with Android Rom development so far. But willing to help
Willing to try
Id like to help the effort but the thing stoping me is I dont know where to start. I know the simple in and outs linux and simple terminal commands but I dont really know the actuall building process of the android os or where to even start. If you could just tell me breifly how and what to do I can put alot of time into this. I understand the basic concept of compiling from source. Id like to try to help you guys develop and id like to try and learn. I could be alot of help so if you interested id like to be a dev. Btw I have the p5210 wifi version
Hey @Restl3ss I am available to test and to learn development. I have 5210 model
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I can help with beta testing but my exams are near s I won't have too much spare time on my hands.
I have a P5200
Please don't put me on the list I have basic knowledge of stuff and am willing to help but have no free time
Good luck guys
Hey all! Apologies, I've been away for a couple days. Things resume tonight.
Put me down as a dev. I'm 5210.
If there is something I don't know. Google is my friend. Lol
Sent from my I337 ATT Galaxy S4. NB1 rooted with Galaxy S5 apps.
@shadowsiul
glad you're interested just pm me a little bit about your experience, hopefully we can add you to the list.
@stekkew
@mylifeandroid
Follow this build guide (you can replace d2lte with a device you own) and, if you get a successful build, we can add you to the dev list!
@Zachisimo
perfect, i'll put you down for tester for now. Follow the above build guide, and following a successful compile, we can put you in as a dev.
@CAG-man
@rodbacon
welcome to the team my friends
@mylifeandroid
Follow this build guide (you can replace d2lte with a device you own) and, if you get a successful build, we can add you to the dev list
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Do I have to do it for the gt3 or any android device?
mylifeandroid said:
Do I have to do it for the gt3 or any android device?
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any device. The point is to get comfortable with compiling from source before trying to tackle the tab 3
I actually don't want to test... Certain reasons...
I would actually like to be dev. I'm very known with Linux (I build my own, simple programs) and I've even approached to compile the CM 10.1 source code (which I stopped with).
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I'd like to be a tester...
I've a P5200 with mobile sim card

[Completed] help getting into android development please?

An absolute noob looking for help and teaching, not ridicule and insult "please!"​
ok, guys. So I've been thinking about it and over the last couple weeks after testing rom after rom on my lg g2 I get bored of them and they don't work the way I want.
*Ultimate goal of today, learn how I can contribute to my android community other than donating, I'm talking about developing
I'm really new at this and by really new I mean I have no experience at all. I've tried to write programs like "hello world" and still get confused. I need someone who can point me in the right direction so I can start doing something productive for myself and the community.
I want to get help understanding this and take it piece by piece, slowly and once I'm all caught up I'll have select few people beta test and I'll then after release it to the public with a weekly stable build which I will test for my phone weekly. "these are just my goals, not my expectations, I'm going to need help to get there" so my question is
Can anyone help me?!
PS, I've tried doing it on my own and googling it and it just doesn't make any sense when I read it.
lg vs980 (Verizon lg g2)
Cloudy stock 1.2
Twrp recovery 2.7
Hi,
Its great to see such enthusiasm! But i will say developing your own ROM is hard work, especially if you have little experience
here is a post i made for another thread for those who are interested in learning
POST #7 - How to begin the long process of becoming an android developer
but really the best advice is go slow, start small, be able to create a Hello World project
and absorb all the wisdom at XDA - University
best of luck!!

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