New Approach (end user) - G1 Android Development

In short!
Build a G1 rom without so many stock applications!!! This will defiitely cause a snappier feel to functionality.
(I once used a rom with 37 stock apps, the g1 can only handle about 40 unrooted! ridiculous!)
I've had a G1 since the beginning, and as things have progressed along no one has really noted how much we've crammed into the device with each OS update, much like bloatware.
I've recently been running the latest up to date roms I can find, and they don't run up to par, there is a lot of lag and waiting. This isn't to say all roms or slow or even any at all, just my experience and I hope with that we can build a 2.2 rom without added applications.
Maybe make two roms, a bare bones rom and a full one.
I don't need: launcher pro
an extra email client
3d gallery
music
news and weather
talk
voice dialer / search.
There are better alternatives on the market, and the voice search is horrible.
All Android phones will eventually slow down with OS updates, lets not cram the g1 with new services found on better phones. (bluetooth 2.0)
I think it's great progress I do, but I think the majority of g1 users would be grateful without them/ a pick between barebones and full roms.
I've deleted most of the apps mentioned above, but without the extra email app my gmail wont sync, and all sorts of quirky things.
The g1 isn't slow, it was fast and snappy with the firmware version it came out on, let's keep stock apps to a minimum!
Tried to keep this short, sorry.

You know, you can easily edit any of the roms, by hand, or using dsixda's kitchen

Or if that sounds too geeky, you can always install root explorer and delete the desired apk files from /system/app. it works for me. i remove the onscreen keyboard (extra 4mb of ram), voice search, voice dialer, bluetooth (which i rarely use, so i dont need it there), extra mail client,

soooo..
What your saying is because you dont want to do it yourself and you are the only one who uses these roms, the developers should do more work just for you.
You do understand how easy it is for you to delete what you dont want from a rom right?

Let's refer to the OP and see what is now bolded.
I've used Root Explorer to delete apps (and still do) but it never is as sound as I'd like.
My Gmail won't sync and will crash after I delete the extra email.apk,
my contacts will crash when trying to join with FB small here and there things.
I'm all about being "geeky" with my phone, I'm a little bothered anyone would think I wasn't considering I've been using this device since the beginning with ADB and all that noise.
It was a suggestion for less technical users to not have the hassle. I read Cyan the other day saying how these devices are still fun to hack and they just keep adding to it not regarding (it seems) if it will be snappy and functional for every day use.
and thank you fonix232 I'll look into it

dude if you dont want all the "bloat-ware", you should try a plain phone like this, i use one my self
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DUDE! Is that a light gun for NESemu support!?!
and on a almost serious note, that reminds me of that skinny mp3 lookin' phone Verizon put out like 2 years ago that slid out like a blade haha

Simply install an 3rd party app like android commander and remove what you desire from /system/app. Going to request a close/move on this, as there isn't too much development going on here+already slightly off topic.
EDIT: Also remember barebone roms, about 2 or so were released. The reason why you don't see more as it didn't really impact the G1 that much. Let's face it, we're lacking ram mainly and os support.

protomanez said:
Simply install an 3rd party app like android commander and remove what you desire from /system/app. Going to request a close/move on this, as there isn't too much development going on here+already slightly off topic.
EDIT: Also remember barebone roms, about 2 or so were released. The reason why you don't see more as it didn't really impact the G1 that much. Let's face it, we're lacking ram mainly and os support.
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I uploaded a few stripped roms in the past, but nothing recently. This was mostly when I was repacking WG's kernel into various different roms. Now with AnyKernel Updater (and pershoot, dumfuq, exterry, etc) constantly building kernels, there's little need.
It really comes down to the fact that there isn't the perfect rom for everyone. It's easier for me to strip what I don't want out, throw some extra scripts here and there, and testsign the zip.

Related

Yardie V4 Rom.....What ch'all want???

OK, so thanks to all who have tried my ROMs and left me feedback and an especially big thank you to those of you who have donated to my beer fund!!!! But what i wanna do now is throw it open to y'all! Lots of people have asked for this and that adding or removing, it's been impossible to keep up with! So what i want, is for y'all to use this thread to tell me what tweaks/programs etc you all want, please do not ask for radios though as obviously they all work different around the world, my Rom will ship with whatever radio i feel is best for my locality and battery life! Also DO NOT ASK FOR ANYTHING THAT INFRINGES COPYRIGHT.......It will be a waste of your time!!!!!
My initial thoughts are to drop the D3D drivers for now as they slow down the screen rotate too much, other thoughts are to drop TCPMP for you tube player and add music ID, possibly a couple more coffee break games. Would also like to add manilla 2D(But a couple of issues to sort with it first!)
So let me know!!!
Add-on for Yardie Rom
I would like to cast a vote for the Raphael Keyboard (unless there is a working version of the Opal Keyboard released before the Rom is made.)
Thanks!!!
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I would like to cast a vote for the Raphael Keyboard (unless there is a working version of the Opal Keyboard released before the Rom is made.)
Thanks!!!
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i agree with the raphael keyboard, haven't seen the opal keyboard. SJ's HyperDragon PRO Manilla 2D runs flawless so I would like to see that in the ROM. Also, the youtube application is the best i've used hands down. BeeJive compatability is a must but other than that i can't think of anything else.
Hi yardie,
Ive been a big fan of your roms. Just wanted to add somethings id love to see in them.
1 - The action/quick menu tab in place of the calender tab on the bottom left soft button.
2 - The long press keys for power/send/end
3 - Not a big deal, but a few new games would be nice
4 - Not sure if you would be able to because its only beta, but adding in skyfire browser, or if not maybe opera, as PIE is terrible and slow.
I personally like a real full rom, the more programs on it the better, as long as you can maintain good speed.
As long as you can add some of the recommendations, but still keep up the speed as you have done, I will be sold!
Thanks again.
IMHO I like more a very light and clear merged ROM (Kaiser/Raphael), newest build with so less as possible apps. Contains only essential apps as:
- Standard WM (eg Office, Outlook, QuickGPS, Camera, Symbol Pad)
- 3D drivers of Samsung Omnia
- Flash 3.1
- MS_NETCF
- MS_SQL_CE_MOBILE
- ESMERTEC_JBED
- Hou Ming FileExplorer extension is handy but not necessary
The rest should be installable by users. Changed icons are nice, but not too blinky or full change. It looks not clear and I've been in the situation I couldn't find the apps immediately, I had to look twice.
Standard theme: I like the looks of your previous ROM
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hey yardie,
Here's my input:
1. Stick with the media versions, I personally prefer these (DiamondMedia lol), and love yours.
2. Stick with 3.29, it's very stable and I've never had your ROM crash on me
3. Manila2D is cool, but so is HTC Home IMHO. I'm fine with either one.
4. For Beejive compatiblity, you might want to take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2581946&postcount=1
5. I prefer YouTubePlay over the new Youtube application, for speed and stability, and its extremely lightweight and has more options
6. I suggest taking a peek at AdvanedConfig 3.2's .xml files, it has some VERY useful Registry edits
7. I prefer 19588 and some newer builds rather than the standard shipped one
8. Please keep your current theme, I love it!
9. For me, I like light ROMs, but also like ROMs that are completely functional out-of-the-box. This means that I really like to keep the base clean, but I also don't like to have the user add millions of .cabs to get it the way they want it
10. In case you are deciding to place opera in the ROM, I would highly NOT recommend it. It takes up about 10 MB cooked in and around 4-5MB in .cab form
That's about it,
good luck on your next release man
EDIT: Please elaborate further on this "slowing the screen rotation down too much" because I'm not having many problems with a ported XIP and SYS with the Samsung Omnia drivers, but would like to hear your input on the subject

AutoKiller minfree manager

Hi,
I have released my minfree manager. this app is designed to help make your phone run smoother
AutoKiller 0.8.2b
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Features:
- simple/advanced mode
- presets
- settings reapply on boot (no init file hacking, i use a service)
- pages/mb views
come on, check the main thread.
0.8.2b is released
0.9b is out, go get it
Thank you for the app.
I have a few suggestions:
-Presets are applied automatically without having to press apply. This is an inconvenient way to see what the settings are.
-The statistics should be uploaded before app exit when settings are finalized as opposed to each time a setting is applied. (When switching through presets this is a double whammy)
-When the keyboard is flipped on the G1 it resets, settings are applied, and the Start up dialog is displayed.
I have v .09
Keep up the good work!
This software is really a godsend. I've never bothered with most of the "Task Killer" programs for exactly the reason AutoKiller was created: Android already has a way to manage memory.
Never occurred to me that the parameters were adjustable though, so thanks for thinking of it and making a useful utility!
Can we exclude apps from being killed, such as the Alarm Clock, etc? Super important for those of us that want to keep out jobs
Clock shouldn't be killed by this automatic killer.
It should be one of the most important tasks on android.
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Can we exclude apps from being killed, such as the Alarm Clock, etc? Super important for those of us that want to keep out jobs
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I would like to know too. It keeps killing the email app. Hence I never got any email notifications after a while
I would imagine that the idea of "excluding" apps fro this doesn't make any sense or is even feasible, since it isn't artificially killing apps, rather it is adjusting when Android kills apps, I guess you could add some sort of "keep in memory" option like most new launcher apps have but I doubt the efficacy of those options nor do I know if they can be set via an outside app or whether that must be coded into the app itself...
If its killing off apps you need and use frequently, it sounds like you should lower your presets a notch or two. ie. Optimal instead of Strict
Or let Android do it for you.....
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Or let Android do it for you.....
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Android is doing it for you...this just give you the ability to adjust the android settings.
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Android is doing it for you...this just give you the ability to adjust the android settings.
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I'll hedge my bets on the Google engineers..
Thats fine, you do that. Some of us like that we can do as we wish with our phones to make them even faster.
Why would you even bother posting? Maybe iPhone is the device for you if you like things handed to you and you just take it? ;-)
Don't pick on the poor guy. I mean, come on-- he has like one of the only unrooted nexus one's in existence. That obviously makes him special in the shortbus sort of way and you simply cannot make fun of special people.
Oh, and I love autokiller. Keep up the good work, Ratson!
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Don't pick on the poor guy. I mean, come on-- he has like one of the only unrooted nexus one's in existence. That obviously makes him special in the shortbus sort of way and you simply cannot make fun of special people.
Oh, and I love autokiller. Keep up the good work, Ratson!
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Yep, some people have real work to do with their phone, not install random things on it.. So far my "need to root" list is pretty short.
Shortbus.. Not even going to bother on that one.
I forgot, you're too busy trolling and making blackmoor uglier. If you don't like the guy's work, then gtfo because apparently several things are shorter than your list of reasons to root like your imagination, charm, and the micro mini between your legs that causes you to tear down legitimate work that apparently you don't understand. Google didn't engineer a one size fits all solution-- they created an ingenious flexible, scalable open source platform that could be modified into a near infinite combination of solutions to fit any need based on the requirements of oem, carrier, and the hardware itself.
Can we get back on the topic?, which is the app. not who like what how.
Please do not flame each other.
No personal attacks on anyone will be tolerated here at XDA. Please read the Rules.
Here at XDA we believe, everyone has a right to be different; and there is no harm in being different.
If someone attacks somebodies personal choice, it won't be appreciated and will eventually get you into trouble.
So please lets concentrate on the application and not it's users' choices/preferances.
I hope all of you comply.
Madnish30.
Does devices need be rooted to use this app ?
anyone knows how to exclude the alarmclock from the killing? I need it to wake me up.....

[Q] Update to CM5 as promised but nothing??

here is a post Cyanogen did back in June 30th of 2010
It’s been just under a week since Google released Froyo (Android 2.2) into the open-source world and we’ve made great progress on CyanogenMod-6 already. Approximately 20 of us on the CM team are working hard on merging all of the community-developed extras in, as well as porting to new devices. Google did a great job and really gave us the best foundation to start from this time around.
Here’s where we stand so far.. Most of the CyanogenMod extras have been merged. Some features are being reworked (like trackball settings), new device ports are well underway. The first devices to see CM6 experimental releases will most likely be the Nexus One and Droid simply because those are the devices that “just work”. The Dream/Sapphire port has everything working but one small issue remains. Wes Garner has the Slide port well underway. I don’t have a status report of the Desire, Incredible, and Evo versions at this time.
I’m expecting that we should have some experimental releases by the weekend, but please don’t spam us asking for ETAs.. We are just as excited to get this out as you are
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You can follow our progress on Github or drop by irc.freenode.net in #cyanogenmod or #koush.
Regarding updates to CM5.. A small update will be coming this weekend to fix a few bugs but the focus will remain on CM6!
Thanks to everyone who has been supporting us with testing, bugfixing, code, new features, and of course donations. CM is what it is because of the community. Thank you!
just curious for us not using froyo will there be an update to CM5??..
Discuss
bymp
10char....
Bamp?
10char? anybody what to discuss the promise he made??
This is really not good that he promised something and then didn't fullfil this promise, but honestly... CM6 is so much better than CM5.08, personally I am not even thinking on trying 2.1 ROMs, I really don't understand why to bother with older software if newer gives you not only new features and same if not better speed and stability.
There is no point. Same reason why we don't see any progress on donut roms. They're old. 2.2 runs one hell of a lot better than any 2.1 roms did. Give up on CM 5 and come to the now.
I regret moving away from Donut (CM4.x). For me CM6 works worse than CM5 and CM 5 works worse than CM4. The only reason I am staying with CM6 is the hope that 6.1 will improve the situation. The main issue is the lack of memory and what follows as consequence (can't view big websites, can't take photos, apps close themselves due to lack of RAM, push mail does not work, etc.)
These problems are not always occuring, but they occur most of the time, especially if the last reboot is more than 2 or 3 hours in the past. I recommend waiting for CM6.1 and then reassess whether it is viable to switch.
Hellek said:
I regret moving away from Donut (CM4.x). For me CM6 works worse than CM5 and CM 5 works worse than CM4. The only reason I am staying with CM6 is the hope that 6.1 will improve the situation. The main issue is the lack of memory and what follows as consequence (can't view big websites, can't take photos, apps close themselves due to lack of RAM, push mail does not work, etc.)
These problems are not always occuring, but they occur most of the time, especially if the last reboot is more than 2 or 3 hours in the past. I recommend waiting for CM6.1 and then reassess whether it is viable to switch.
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This is a punishment for lack of exploring. I've been using 2.2 ROMs now for a while and aren't having any of the issues you're having. Did you mess with any of the cm settings? What about the adw launcher settings? All of these play a part in the functionality of the ROM. Some advice:
Under CM Settings > Performance Settings:
Code:
Use Compcache @ 25%
Disable JIT
Disable Surface dithering
Make sure Lock Home in Memory is checked
VM Heap Size 32m
For ADW Launcher:
Screen Preferences:
Code:
Make sure you are only using 3. This helps with the slowness
System Preferences:
Code:
Disable Scrollable Widget Support
Check System Persist
UI Settings:
Code:
Uncheck Desktop Dots
Uncheck Secondary ActionButtons
Uncheck desktop Indicator
With these settings, I have no problems running any 2.2 rom on my G1. Also, I have widgets on each of my screens.
when you press anything in setting or any app.. does it load instantly?
or is there a second or 2 lag? i strip my donut roms completly remove everything google including market, and i have 35.43 mb free on my data partition. its stupidfast. but csdi is the fastest @ that setting.
most of the time when i end apps with task killer i have 55 mb free.
so i can load it up with widgets if needed.
what im trying to say i have achieved that speed with froyo but only if my cpu is clocked @ 650+ all the time and super stripped. gah i rambled.. i hope you understand what im tying 2 say.

The future of phones is coming

The future of cellphones and cellphone plans along-side android to give you infinite possibility! And it is going to be epic!
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Here we have what Google owned Motorola has created with Project Ara. A concept to bring the flexibility and open source that Google's android brought to software to the hardware side. A modular phone that you can customize. Why buy a new phone when you can just upgrade the one you have?
Build it to your liking, take it apart and build it better! And there even bring the ability use your 3D printer to customize it (I know you all have a 3D printer by now.... Right?)
Then we have the Build your own phone plan by Zact.
Currently on the sprint network, (I hope they expend or someone picks up on this and moves to something with a bit more... SERVICE.) You can pick how many minutes, text messages, and Mb of data you have or don't have, each month. If your realize that you need more minutes, text, or Mb, you just click a button and add them. If you have extra they roll over. How can it get any better? Oh, you have kids? You can set times, and limits on EVERYTHING! or don't. Your choice, and that's what makes it AMAZING.
All this mixed in with Android, makes it the perfect phone to build and create anything you can imagine in a phone. Unfortunately, I don't see Zact adding this phone to its list of phones for sale anytime soon, and currently Zact has "custom software" that means you can only buy there phones for there plans, and you can't install custom roms or anything that might cause the software to stop working because it would leave you left with a brick, and they do not have insurance. But... where there is android, there are devs and devs can do anything with time and support.
So, the future of cell phones is looking promising. If there are enough people interested in this stuff, support the developers. Comment on the xda forums and let them know that you want them to support Zact phones. Lets get the ball rolling on this.
I am starting my Zact plan for Christmas, and I will be flashing my prl's to roam because as of now, Zact roaming is free and roaming services at my house is better then sprint service.
The future looks promising! Let me know what you guys think!
future
nice phone...
Don't forget to help support project Ara on their dScout page!:good:
I got my phones a few days ago, it only took 2 weeks... I started it up, ran through the setup, wasnt thinking but aloud the OTA to run. I ran cf auto root, noticed I still didnt have su so I installed superuser from the appstore and checked root with root checker. Nothing. Then I remembered that I installed the OTA to 4.3 but forgot about Knox because I had not had to deal with it prior. I did just about everything I could think of. I also found that trying to retrieve your msl/spc is a lot harder. I am unable to get into the qualcomm usb menu because it asked for the msl, Most hidden menus are asking for msl. I attempted to install twrp but it says there is no recover found for my device. I cant connect it to dfs or cdma workshop. adb sees it, but I dont know much about adb so I want able to do much with it. I was however able to copy the ZACT mobile apk from the phone and install it to another phone. It is unstable and FC alot. My other phone sees it as a launcer like touchwiz or nova. Thought this would be a good idea to see what the apk itself controls on another phone. I am not a developer. I am computer savy and have been playing with flashing for a long time. If anyone is interested in teaching me a little, I would like make a backup of the rom. Is there a way to pull the full rom with pre-installed apks, I can factory rest back to start and just see whats available. I'd like to attempt to flash it to my old s3 make a clone kinda. So i can test an play with one without damaging my daily phone. Any thoughts or ideas on what to test let me know.
Nice
Just to set the record straight...in no way did Motorola create this idea. This was a concept created by Dave Hakkens. His concept was called Phonebloks. Motorola did some sort of deal to license the concept or something. Just don't go around saying someone created something when they didn't...its like saying Apple made the smartphone.
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Good to know thank you for setting me straight me v
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Strange....
Update
Please go to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48609960#post48609960 for updates on My current status of root and flashing my zact s3 phones.
Wow
Cant wait to put my hands on one of these
It's like watching a movie, with Da Vinci and Einstein working together, with Tesla support, and Edison make the stuff :v
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:good: lol
Nice....
Yeah I hEard Obout This ! Pretty Cool

{Feature Request}<--Where would this post go? Here??

This is a feature request for any rom that would want to implement it. Most roms, Carbon, Liquid, Nameless, and some TW rom's (4.3's) have a form of it already.
Network Traffic in the status bar.
This is a very handy feaure when you can read it. That's the problem especially on ROM's which have both up and download speeds shown at the same time on two different rows. I know this takes up much less space, but if you can't readily read the data, it doesn't do much good. I'm on a much cheaper verizon data package plan like 250MB, and I might go up but I'm trying to save every penny I can. There's a lot of public wifi available anyway. I like to glance it at perodically to see how much data is being used when I'm not and when I am using wifi. Wifi to check speeds overall, and on data to make sure stuff ain't downloading a ton to keep both mine and another smartphone in check.
Anyway, ROM's which display download only I currently prefer simply beause it's one speed and the font size is much larger.
But I'd prefer to see both as although I use download speed a lot, up speed is nice to know too, for uploading and sending large messages / email, upload of files, and to see if the phone is uploading something I might not need to be like a rogue app.
Xposed has a module that a new guy has taken over that shows network speed and gives you the option of how many rows you want to use for network speeds. There's other ways too, I think there's an app in the store, and I'm almost certain there's widgets, again, both are nice, but having it in the status bar is just awesome sauce on the kitkat or jellybean.
With the Xposed module: You can also select things like:
display the unit you prefer, or none
IF both are one row you can make the font larger so you can easily read both and are squinting
Change the color of the font
A ton of other things some nice, some unnecessary, a really nice xposed module.
I am forty years old have had three eye surgeries between 3-5 years of age, but was told I'd start needing glasses for reading when I reached my thirties. Well, I'm going on 40, and the eye's ain't what they used to be. And they've never been great, but I never needed them to read for about the last twenty years, after having worn glasses for 15 years after the sugeries, the doc told me I really didn't need them anymore and wouldn't need them until I got a bit older.
Anyway, I hope this is the place for something like this. I like a lot of different roms, and although I'm on one rom now mostly, I'd like to see this at least in the rom's that currently have such a feature. Because, at least for me, even with glasses, I have a hard time reading the double row up and down speeds provided by roms like beanstalk (most recent kitkat builds, the earlier builds only had down speed which was readable), carbon, liquid, and many roms, TW included, already have a readable download speed but no upload speed. I rather have it like this if it's not changable, but if it's changable:
Id like to see single row network speeds both up and down. Maybe 2 digits like 2.2GB/s etc. With or without the units.
If there's anyway anyone can implement, I for one would appreciate it. If it's something ridiculously insance to do, perhaps I can help, but although I'm no dev, I might be able to get it working by comparing code, but the font size I'd think would be changable somehow.
Thanks.
griz
If this post needs moving, please send me a PM and go ahead and move it. I'm not sure where it belongs, but the dev's might see it here.
Please move this to general where it belongs. Sorry I should have read the rest of the rules. The ones by archangel . my apologies again
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Please move this to general where it belongs. Sorry I should have read the rest of the rules. The ones by archangel . my apologies again
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"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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