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Does the Sprint Nexus S come with CarrierIQ installed?
no it doesnt
thank god no
Amen to this...CiQ was/is a blatant violation of our rights.
I love CIQ discussions.
You know google can pull the exact same things from your phone without carrier iq! OMG NOOOO
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I love CIQ discussions.
You know google can pull the exact same things from your phone without carrier iq! OMG NOOOO
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you forgot china can too
in fact google actually /does/ pull the information, whereas ciq doesnt...
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you forgot china can too
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i almost forgot about MIUIq
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you forgot china can too
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Only if your running MIUI.
That is some scary stuff. I just read up on it. That should absolutely be illegal.
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Babydoll25 said:
That is some scary stuff. I just read up on it. That should absolutely be illegal.
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It is and it isn't. Do I agree 100% they should track every last thing I say, text and browse? Absolutely not. Do I think they should be allowed to see how many calls I make, how many texts, what kind of apps I use, how often I use the browser. Yeah, I'm ok with that.
Sprint has CarrierIQ for what has been basically narrowed down to 2 theories. Troubleshooting, and possible tracking for Marketing and future device planning.
Does it bother me that a company like Sprint would collect metrics to find out what features I use on my current phones so they can offer better choices in the future? Nope, I'm ok with that. Does it worry me they could in theory track everything I say and do? No, but it probably should as it violates my privacy.
I'm still not 100% on what all google can track, but I know its just about everything, as well if I remember correctly they also have a kill switch for it. That just doesn't seem kosher. I still love my phone, and don't let petty **** bother me. To me being followed by the powers that be is petty.
Does anyone know how to see if someone is spying on my internet usage on my phone? I'm using wimax and 3g
I just want to see if the government is spying
Maybe this is a delicate topic
But pretty interesting
I would love an app for that.
Hahahahahaha.
Wait, you're being serious?
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Hahahahahaha.
Wait, you're being serious?
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Quote for emphasis.
seems to me someone has been watching to many sci-fi thrillers.
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Quote because your username possibly answers the question.
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Quote because your username possibly answers the question.
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Hahahahaha. Quote for FTW post.
detroit2hi said:
Does anyone know how to see if someone is spying on my internet usage on my phone? I'm using wimax and 3g
I just want to see if the government is spying
Maybe this is a delicate topic
But pretty interesting
I would love an app for that.
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No because if any spying was done it would be done after the data left your phone and therefore undetectable.
The usa and uk do have an agreement whereby each can monitor the others private citizens (yes it is real and has been discussed in the uk houses of parliament. Its called echelon and is a matter of public record in uk) but its highly doubtful you would be spyed on for no reason and not really something you could know if it did happen so not worth worrying over.
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No because if any spying was done it would be done after the data left your phone and therefore undetectable.
The usa and uk do have an agreement whereby each can monitor the others private citizens (yes it is real and has been discussed in the uk houses of parliament. Its called echelon and is a matter of public record in uk) but its highly doubtful you would be spyed on for no reason and not really something you could know if it did happen so not worth worrying over.
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I'm in japan and they take **** really serious here. Bittorrents and all that stuff.
You kids might laugh but this ****s serious.
Seems soon many times when I'm downloading the police park outside my building. Its not just this time.
For you that laughed I guess you never heard of "acta" or "sopa" these things are serious and not to be laughed at
But your ignorance is what makes you you I guess and makes them so so much money
The ones that they Sue for millions of $$$
I have my protection up
But these police keep parking out my building everytime I test the system.
I want to see what they see.
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I laugh because the way you worded it made it sound like some action movie ****.
I don't live in a box, I know what SOPA and ACTA are. Well, ACTA now. But how about, if they take that **** so seriously, you stop doing what they don't want you to do if you're afraid of the consequences.
It's like you're afraid of jail but you still have no problem robbing a store.
So chill with the illegal stuff and you won't have to worry about the police outside.
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I laugh because the way you worded it made it sound like some action movie ****.
I don't live in a box, I know what SOPA and ACTA are. Well, ACTA now. But how about, if they take that **** so seriously, you stop doing what they don't want you to do if you're afraid of the consequences.
It's like you're afraid of jail but you still have no problem robbing a store.
So chill with the illegal stuff and you won't have to worry about the police outside.
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Because the internet is free and should always be. Im just asking. Why do you have to be a web police??
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I once found an app that detects all wifi enabled devices that are using wifi or Mobile data connections. It was gone so fast I couldn't get it.
It used a live map to detect the location
I feel I'm touching a subject that's too sensitive.
Hahaha lol...
You being serious or not.. Still funny
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Hahaha lol...
You being serious or not.. Still funny
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You are obvious drunk
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I'm not being the internet police. I'm stating the obvious. Don't do illegal **** and you won't have to be all paranoid.
The internet isn't really free. You pay your monthly bill for it or whatever, but the content within the internet is free unless, of course, you're downloading repackaged programs that actually retail for real money in which case you should buy the stupid program or music.
Not saying that I'm not guilty of pirating either, but don't complain about consequences for your actions when you knew them before you even did it.
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Can I just marry you?
Some people think It's illegal, while others, like myself, believe It's not.....a lot of people seem to confuse flashing a phone with actually stealing something...certainly talking about it isn't illegal...and I'll say it again (XDA), TALKING ABOUT IT ISN'T ILLEGAL..if flashing a phone is illegal, then so isn't rooting a phone, and installing a custom ROM..and if that's the case, then most of the subjects on this forum are talking about doing illegal things...if someone out there has any proof cloning a phone is illegal, then let's see it
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Yes! It's illegal to change the exaust system on your car with another either
I don't know how is it in the USA but i didn't heard anything here in the old republic
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Yes! It's illegal to change the exaust system on your car with another either
I don't know how is it in the USA but i didn't heard anything here in the old republic
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I think ur spell check might of changed a few words on u and to me some of what u said made no sense ...sorry
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Cloning is obviously illegal... Unless you're cloning your own phone... Which wouldn't make much sense... Just saying if you clone somone else's phone and incur charges, YOU ARE STEALING, that been illegal since the mid to late 90's (at least in Illinois)
I bought my EVO outright from sprint when I had sprint...I bought my incognito outright from Boost...I pay boost mobile monthly for service, and even though I flashed my EVO myself, I still only get what i pay for, regardless of which phone I use....It's the same for any phone on any carrier...It's not a cable tv descrambler, in which u get more than what ur supposed to get, which is stealing, but a cell phone provider will only give u what u pay for, regardless of phone.....how is that stealing
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Clearly he said "UNLESS YOU ARE CLONING YOUR OWN PHONE." It is illegal when you clone another person's device in order to use their minutes or data as though it were your own.
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Clearly he said "UNLESS YOU ARE CLONING YOUR OWN PHONE." It is illegal when you clone another person's device in order to use their minutes or data as though it were your own.
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Not clearly cause that's not how he worded it....he said "incur charges", meaning of I cloned someone's phone and they incur charges because of something I did then that's illegal....he did not say if i cloned someone's phone to use there service as my own is illegal
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Ewe knew what he meant. Now play along or be turned into a newt.
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Some people think It's illegal, while others, like myself, believe It's not.....a lot of people seem to confuse flashing a phone with actually stealing something...certainly talking about it isn't illegal...and I'll say it again (XDA), TALKING ABOUT IT ISN'T ILLEGAL..if flashing a phone is illegal, then so isn't rooting a phone, and installing a custom ROM..and if that's the case, then most of the subjects on this forum are talking about doing illegal things...if someone out there has any proof cloning a phone is illegal, then let's see it
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http://www.fcc.gov/guides/cell-phone-fraud
Wireless Telephone Protection Act of 1998
And no, talking about it is not illegal. Neither is talking about how to rape someone. But that rightly is not allowed here either.
Oh God, this thread again...
inb4 "if you have nothing to add, don't post", you should seriously use the search button before duplicating a thread on the same topic.
Rooting isn't illegal for the record OP.
As shown cloning phones is illegal and talks about doing it are not allowed on xDA. Only warning. Thread closed
http://bgr.com/2013/08/02/fbi-android-microphone-hack/
Anyone know how this works or how to block it?
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umm wow. that is crazy
I know right. I had no idea something like this was possible.
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How the hell could google decline to comment?!?! This story needs to blow up big time and make google have to respond!
Bomb bomb terrorist attack paroxide jihaad president ala Iran Jew plot bin laden Arabian afganistan ...bla bla bla 911 77 government Cameron Obama explosive detonator kill kidnap ....
I wonder if my mic has been switched on?
As long as NSA does not also have this capability I'm ok. FBI still has to get a warrant to spy on someone like this similar to getting a phone tap.
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FBI still has to get a warrant
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As long as NSA does not also have this capability I'm ok. FBI still has to get a warrant to spy on someone like this similar to getting a phone tap.
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And elves live in my garden too.
The government does what ever it wants. The Constitution has become no more than a speedbump to government employees.
anyone?
Any developers have actual thoughts on this question? If the FBI can do it, it stands to reason that anyone can do it. It would be good to know if this exploit can be blocked by root users.
Surprised that XDAers don't want to figure this one out.
Pretty conformist for a site for custom software.
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Surprised that XDAers don't want to figure this one out.
Pretty conformist for a site for custom software.
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How do you know someone is not already working on it? You have to understand that this type of coding would be system wide and hidden very well. It may very well take an entire re-write of the whole OS to remove. Also this is not a custom software site. It is a site to help people learn to do things on their own.
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How do you know someone is not already working on it?
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You'd know better than I would. Are they?
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You'd know better than I would. Are they?
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I wouldn't know any more then you as I am not working on it. This is something that would be kept close to the chest as the min it was released it would be patched. Mainly now that they are using free lance hackers to look for exploits.
Wayne Tech Nexus
It has to be switched on somewhere. Even if it is system wide...
Htm.... I wonder how much Apple paid for this article....
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It has to be switched on somewhere. Even if it is system wide...
Htm.... I wonder how much Apple paid for this article....
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Pretty sure Apple has the same thing built into iOS.
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@jcase might be able to give some insight as to how hard this would be to circumvent,
I would think you'd need a kernel level manual override of drivers where x driver cannot be activated under any circumstance unless you manually allow it, kind of like asking for SU permissions, then you use a third party dialer that you personally coded or something of the sort.
I mean you'd basically have to go through the AOSP code line by line I would think to actually locate this.
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Pretty sure Apple has the same thing built into iOS.
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@jcase might be able to give some insight as to how hard this would be to circumvent,
I would think you'd need a kernel level manual override of drivers where x driver cannot be activated under any circumstance unless you manually allow it, kind of like asking for SU permissions, then you use a third party dialer that you personally coded or something of the sort.
I mean you'd basically have to go through the AOSP code line by line I would think to actually locate this.
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They do say that it's being done by hackers. Usually by an exploit, spyware, etc. There may not be any bugs in AOSP, and it very well could be in carrier/manufacturer programming.
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They do say that it's being done by hackers. Usually by an exploit, spyware, etc. There may not be any bugs in AOSP, and it very well could be in carrier/manufacturer programming.
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I wouldn't call it a "bug" if it's being purposely put into the code.
What I am getting is it's being done by the FBI, not "hackers."
http://propakistani.pk/2013/08/02/f...r-android-phone-mic-or-laptop-cameras-report/
"Hacker" seems to just be any word the media uses for anyone who does something questionable on a computer or phone.
I use a Nexus 4 (pure AOSP code) and I would think they could do this to my phone just as easily as say an SGS4 or what have you..
This article seems to indicate that it's not a deliberate backdoor, but an actual exploit that's giving them the mic access. They also mention laptops (obviously not running Android) so I think it's more likely they're just hacking these platforms and using their new privileges to turn the mic on.
Also if you think about it, the mic isn't a restricted device on Linux or Windows. You can touch it without any special permission, so they wouldn't have to completely own your device to listen in on you.
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Bomb bomb terrorist attack paroxide jihaad president ala Iran Jew plot bin laden Arabian afganistan ...bla bla bla 911 77 government Cameron Obama explosive detonator kill kidnap ....
I wonder if my mic has been switched on?
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Best laugh I've had all day.
Thank you
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orangekid said:
Pretty sure Apple has the same thing built into iOS.
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@jcase might be able to give some insight as to how hard this would be to circumvent,
I would think you'd need a kernel level manual override of drivers where x driver cannot be activated under any circumstance unless you manually allow it, kind of like asking for SU permissions, then you use a third party dialer that you personally coded or something of the sort.
I mean you'd basically have to go through the AOSP code line by line I would think to actually locate this.
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I call BS on any FBI microphone backdoor without hard evidence. Possibility of state sponsored malware that does it? Certainly exists. Don't install random apps you dont trust, stay away from malware and use an international carrier unbranded phone that gets updates frequently (S4 (GT-i9500) and unbranded HTC One likely fit this description, so do GPE devices). Also, most custom roms are horribly outdated as far as security patches go.
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I call BS on any FBI microphone backdoor without hard evidence. Possibility of state sponsored malware that does it? Certainly exists..
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This wouldnt surprise me after reading that they are using free lance hackers to find exploits in different OS.
I got a samsung S3. At times I notice the status bar change different colors and flash weird letters. It almost looks alien like. This happens like twice a week. Could this be the government spying on me?
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I got a samsung S3. At times I notice the status bar change different colors and flash weird letters. It almost looks alien like. This happens like twice a week. Could this be the government spying on me?
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I guess its not about government spying as if a government spies it does via network so it does affect the hardware or phone software.
can you post screenshot?
yahanna said:
I got a samsung S3. At times I notice the status bar change different colors and flash weird letters. It almost looks alien like. This happens like twice a week. Could this be the government spying on me?
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Maybe you should wrap your Galaxy S3 in aluminum foil. That should prevent alien attacks, at least.
Do you not watch the news? The government is spying on us all. Congress knows about it. The judicial branch says it is ok and the Executive just doesn't care.
Its only because you rooted your device and was put in a watch list.... Government doesn't like not having control... [emoji12]
One way to be sure you are bing watch is if you ever notice light aircraft or helicopters in your area then you can be sure the have seen you. If you look at them and they fly off then they have notice you have seen them are are trying to be inconspicuous. Never go outside without a tinfoil hat. You can hide one easily under a top hat or cowboy hat, even a bowlers hat.
We all gonna dieeeeeeeeeee!
Nonsense, the only people spying on your phone is the Illuminati, They're watching us all...
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I guess its not about government spying as if a government spies it does via network so it does affect the hardware or phone software.
can you post screenshot?
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It flashes so fast that I got no time to take a screenshot. I wish though.
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Maybe you should wrap your Galaxy S3 in aluminum foil. That should prevent alien attacks, at least.
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Maybe you should wrap your head in concrete. That should prevent people noticing you.
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One way to be sure you are bing watch is if you ever notice light aircraft or helicopters in your area then you can be sure the have seen you. If you look at them and they fly off then they have notice you have seen them are are trying to be inconspicuous. Never go outside without a tinfoil hat. You can hide one easily under a top hat or cowboy hat, even a bowlers hat.
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One way to be sure youre a paranoid troll with tendencies to harm women is if you post comments like this, people like myself will reply with comments like mine. If you look at them and they dont look at you, it explaims why youre angry at them. Never try to talk to them. You'll only end up being rejected and as a result, more angry.
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Its only because you rooted your device and was put in a watch list.... Government doesn't like not having control... [emoji12]
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My phone isn't rooted yet. Youre right about the government though.
In first world countries this is an issue, yet I cannot say that this is very true for all classes of countries, namely 3rd world countries.
I am sensitive that NSA surveillance in the US does overlap the barriers of privacy and security, as the main operators are humans and not machines, yet I do not confirm this is true, this is just speculation. They can choose to cross those barriers without us even noticing them.
However in regards to being spied upon by the government, it will go as far only as you'd let them get information. I have simulated your errors by means of Network Security testing, and yes I am a Network Admin and simulate stealing information. What i can say is this, if the government uses technology by means of any frequency via Wifi, Bluetooh, GPS, etc and you have these on, then you have to be extra careful. Most tracking agencies do not leave the spying to machines, they do it themselves and can choose to go beyond stealing your "Intellectual Rights" so to speak.
I also have Hardbricked and soft-bricked devices in my simulations. But what I can is that you should be responsible for gathering facts and truths about this matter. It is foolish to speculate upon the government without knowing of the tools that they use in acquiring private information.
I hope my article has helped you, and i do wish this thread is closed as it is.
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It flashes so fast that I got no time to take a screenshot.
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try airplane mode for a while and see if it stop
if it does you are right
if it continues in airplane mode also its hardware or software problem.
BTW I am happy Indian government doesn't spy like you people.
This thread is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh, OP.
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BTW I am happy Indian government doesn't spy like you people.
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BUT MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK!!!!!!
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Maybe you should wrap your head in concrete. That should prevent people noticing you.
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Will try. Thanks for the heads up.
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This thread is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh, OP.
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You sound like a nerd.
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Will try. Thanks for the heads up.
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Youre a weirdo.
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Ha ha ha... no.
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The truth is that you ARE being spied upon by the government. The FBI, CIA, TSA, and NSA are SO incompetent in their spy work that their spying causes graphical glitches on your phone. These glitches are caused by the syncing with the NFC chip that was injected into you the least time you got a shot at the doctor's office. You only noticed these glitches because there weren't enough pacifying hallucinogens in the atmosphere spread by the gubment in those inexplicable chemtrails you see crisscrossing the air above you.
Because, obviously, someone of such incredible genius such as yourself is of extreme interest by the government's top intelligence and law enforcement agencies that they'll spend tens of thousands of dollars in tech, equipment, and man-hours to monitor 24/7.
Or maybe there's just a software or hardware glitch in your phone.
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Oh, and since you posted this on a public forum (searchable by Google and other search engines), the government knows their cover has been blown. Expect a team of "cleaners" to arrive soon.
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BUT MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK!!!!!!
Will try. Thanks for the heads up.
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nope
its not like the us government
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They don't need to. The US, UK, Pakistani, and Chinese governments already spy on India enough.
I work for a large telephony company. In the US, if the government was spying on you, you wouldn't know about it. There's actually regulations built around how they spy on you, called CALEA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act)
Basically, the telephone company has a security group whose job is to receive CALEA requests, and essentially they fork your call into a 3 way call whenever you make/receive anything. That's how modern wiretapping works. No one outside of that group is legally allowed to know anything about it. It doesn't show up in call signalling.
As for the wide-spread stuff that the NSA was grabbing, they're grabbing "call metadata" so essentially the signaling information, and CDRS (call detail records). It's not the same thing as a wiretap, but you can still get a lot of information out of it.
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I work for a large telephony company. In the US, if the government was spying on you, you wouldn't know about it. There's actually regulations built around how they spy on you, called CALEA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act)
Basically, the telephone company has a security group whose job is to receive CALEA requests, and essentially they fork your call into a 3 way call whenever you make/receive anything. That's how modern wiretapping works. No one outside of that group is legally allowed to know anything about it. It doesn't show up in call signalling.
As for the wide-spread stuff that the NSA was grabbing, they're grabbing "call metadata" so essentially the signaling information, and CDRS (call detail records). It's not the same thing as a wiretap, but you can still get a lot of information out of it.
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There are also "taps" or pass through skimmers at a lot of the data pipes throughout the country.
SSL should cover this, but SSL is so freaking broken its not even funny
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But all jokes aside ('bout time someone took this half-seriously besides SidDev), I would try getting a stock firmware image and just flash that through ODIN. Doing this will erase your data, so make a backup of anything you really care about. I remember my old Rugby Smart had an issue where if the device was off and I plugged it into the wall socket to charge, it would say there was no battery inserted. However there was one inserted, and it would charge just fine if it was on. I just flashed back to stock firmware through ODIN and it fixed the issue.
If it still persists after flashing through ODIN, then it is probably a hardware issue. Unfortunately, I am not as experienced with hardware-related issues, so I wont be able to help with that if that is what it comes down to.
SidDev is right. It is either a software or hardware relates issue. Although the gubmit is spying on you (n' all of us as well), it wouldn't cause anything like that. If anything, the gubmit WOULDN'T want the phone to show weird signs, because that would make you suspicious..
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