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[Q] Planning a ROM change - need advice

Hi,
I am currently running CM6-RC3 on my G1. I am fed up with the slowness of the phone and I want to go to a fast OS, though I am spoilt rotten by some of the Froyo features. However, I think a fast ROM is still my prio.
First step is to get a Class 6 card and I have ordered an 8gig one from ebay. Should get that in a couple of days.
The second step of course is the ROM itself. Currently I have shortlisted SuperD 1.11 and SuperFroyo 2.6 Lite based on the reviews that I have read on the forum.
Firstly, if anyone has used these two ROMs, or can give me a comparative opinion of these two, then it would make my choice all the more easy. Is the SuperD really that that fast as compared to SuperFroyo that I should willingly sacrifice some Froyo functionality?
Also, how do I flash either of the ROMs? As I said, I have CM6 and AmonRa 1.7.0 Recovery. Now SuperD goes on about installing a legal base ROM and DRC83 (which itself has some new and updated versions in many threads) and then installing SuperD 1.11 itself. But coming from CM, is that necessary, or is it dangerous, or in short what am I supposed to do?
Similarly, if I have to flash SuperFroyo, should I do any preparations or just wipe and flash from the recovery?
The tough thing is that CM is so so so well documented that the other ROMs seem stark compared to that. I already have bricked a phone during the JF ROM era, so I don't want to screw up the one which is currently working. Any sort of detailed help, or pointers to other thread would be most helpful. I have been searching the forum and have not found anything that clarifies my doubts.
TIA.

I'm interested in the answers to your questions too. I've tried to improve speed and responsiveness by using many of the tricks posted in various threads but for daily usage the lags and the battery life are still not acceptable for me (though I like many of the Froyo features).
Having said that - you might want to check out the last pages of this thread [FAST][STABLE]SpeedTeam Froyo [v3.1.1][OFFICIAL RELEASE][8/23/10]
XxKOLOHExX is developing a 1.6-ROM with as many Froyo-Features as possible while retaining the speed, responsivness and stability of Donut. I'm very much looking forward to that ROM.

Having said that - you might want to check out the last pages of this thread [FAST][STABLE]SpeedTeam Froyo [v3.1.1][OFFICIAL RELEASE][8/23/10]
XxKOLOHExX is developing a 1.6-ROM with as many Froyo-Features as possible while retaining the speed, responsivness and stability of Donut. I'm very much looking forward to that ROM.
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did he say when about hed be done? or did he just start on the donut rom?
I am currently running CM6-RC3 on my G1. I am fed up with the slowness of the phone and I want to go to a fast OS, though I am spoilt rotten by some of the Froyo features. However, I think a fast ROM is still my prio.
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the final cyanogenmod v6 is really fast and stable. ive been running it since it was uploaded and havent had any problem at all.. kinda weird lol im used to some kind of force close or reboots but so far this rom seems really stable, you should try it out.

You might want to figure out why cm6 is so slow for you. Its probably the user, not the rom. I'm not a cyan groupie but this is by far the fastest rom I've used...and I've tried A LOT of different roms.
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staunty said:
You might want to figure out why cm6 is so slow for you. Its probably the user, not the rom. I'm not a cyan groupie but this is by far the fastest rom I've used...and I've tried A LOT of different roms.
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Really?, and you using it on a G1? CM5 was quite fast until ADW crashed on me and I had to reflash - decided to flash CM6 at that time. What are your SD partitions, if any? I am running it plain with only one large FAT32 partition.

I am a heavy texter. On Hero ROMs, it takes about 500-600 text's to start FC's and loading screens. On Froyo, I don't know how, but it took 200-300...Im on Super E right now and I can say I'm pleased. I'm at 1,902 Texts right now and its running ill say 90% of how fast it was when I just flashed it.

geekoo said:
Really?, and you using it on a G1? CM5 was quite fast until ADW crashed on me and I had to reflash - decided to flash CM6 at that time. What are your SD partitions, if any? I am running it plain with only one large FAT32 partition.
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Everyone has their personal preference with regard to swap or no swap, compcache, jit, etc. I have no clue what works best even on my own phone (mt3g). But to let you know, I have a 32 MB swap partition, 512 ext 3 or 4 (can't remember, I think its ext4) and the rest FAT32.

donut/1.6? super d
eclair/2.1? super e
froyo/2.2? super f (not completed yet)
theyre all based off CM

geekoo said:
Hi,
I am currently running CM6-RC3 on my G1. I am fed up with the slowness of the phone and I want to go to a fast OS, though I am spoilt rotten by some of the Froyo features. However, I think a fast ROM is still my prio.
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I felt the same way. I've went back to CM4 and CM5 trying to find the right balance. I am now back on CM6 latest and I think I may have found the key to making my phone perform well.
Swap. On a G1 with Froyo it seems that swap is a must. Once I enabled swap my market issues (would return to home at random, especially when searching) and other weird issues went away (shortcuts to URLs wouldn't open he URL but just my homepage). Try swap before you completely bail out of CM6. Even running swap on FAT showed a lot of improvement. I have noticed though that after a couple of days my phone starts acting funny so I turn swap off (swapoff command from terminal) and then back on and things clear up.
Of course this is all my common observation but I really think swap changed CM6 on my G1 from too slow for everyday use to the best ROM there is. I really think with the extra RAM needed for Froyo there just isn't enough left for simple apps (market, browser, etc) to function correctly.
Matt

Super D 1.11 (aka 1.10.4) is quality and I'm so happily suprised at how fast it is
I had forgotten what it was like to own a phone that just well worked without hassle of lose of functionality. As pretty as Eclair and Froyo are they simply can't match a good donut.
Give it a try and use the Setup Up Guide for Donut in my sig a look, it was designed around Super D

shadowch31 said:
Super D 1.11 (aka 1.10.4) is quality and I'm so happily suprised at how fast it is
I had forgotten what it was like to own a phone that just well worked without hassle of lose of functionality. As pretty as Eclair and Froyo are they simply can't match a good donut.
Give it a try and use the Setup Up Guide for Donut in my sig a look, it was designed around Super D
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i just went to Super-E cause all of the froyos are too slow for my taste and all seem to be based on CM6 so what's the point? Plus one of my fav devs, Ben isnt working on SuperF atm so im kind of sad about that. His was my fav but its discontinued . The battery on it is good and speed, not as quick on its feet as donut but gets the job done, plus still has some newer features.

[Q] Is Froyo 2.2 still worth being excited about?

When I first got my Captivate, I was excited by all that Froyo would bring. But now I've got my Captivate running JH7 with SRE (and shortly with VooDoo), and loaded with all the apps I like.
When Froyo comes out, some of my apps won't work until there are new releases, and some of the tweaks I'm getting (SRE and VooDoo etc.) will be gone, at least initially. Plus, AT&T's control I'm sure will be tighter as they removed stuff they initially forgot (like how tethered 'disappeared' from JF6 to JH3+).
So, I'm debating if I should still be excited by Froyo. I'm sure I'll back up my current 'happy place' config/ROM and give Froyo a shot, and maybe I'll keep it. Maybe not.
Just wondering if anyone else is likewise cooling on Froyo now that we have so many DEV patches/ROMs/enhancements.

New technology is always gonna come with some growing pains

Remember we'll be able to use our full ram, try out flash with jit compiler, and then the mass developing of custom roms with take hold.

And omg app2sd comes with froyo. I had my htc aria running with froyo and it is the only thing I miss.
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SRE v.2B6 w/Voodoo LagFix - JH7

the question is WHEEENNNNNN!!!!

September 23rd

Is Froyo worth getting excited about still? Umm... YES! Seriously, I've used it extensivly at work on a Nexus One and Evo. The browser just screams! There are times when I forget its a mobile browser - its that fast.
Do you think the Cappy is fast now? Just wait. Menu animations, transitions, general UI snappy-ness is much improved. Plus, native apps2sd and other little enhancements are great.
My favorite feature is "Chrome to Phone" support. https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/oadboiipflhobonjjffjbfekfjcgkhco
Its so cool! So, yeah, I'm still excited at least.

do you think a new os is gonna stop designgears from releasing a new sre? jh7 is good but if its an indication of what's to come in froyo then I'm excited. I doubt we will see the level of improvement that snapdragon phones see but a few features will be worth the update.
I personally will wait for the voodoo lagfix to have an overclock froyo kernel to upgrade. and I'm sure that won't take long, I mean how different can froyo be? I'm sure many system files are in the same location and function the same way.
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My phone lags way too much (I have video showing it), which lagfix would you choose?

Which lagfix do you think would make my phone more stable and less laggy, the SRE lagfix combo for JH6, the SRE lagfix combo for JH7 or the z4mod for froyo? Thanks.
Check out the video showing the lag my phone has. I have the leaked Froyo build on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA904wzbCdY

Cognition ftw
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I would suggest Cognation as well for 2.2 or any of the roms posted as I have tried a few and they all have been faster then the stock. I also noticed from your video that you have alot on your pages, i noticed that the more i have on the screen the slower LP takes to load. might try slimming down and see if that speeds it up.

I'm using RyanZA's one click from the market. It works well and I haven't had any problems with it. Froyo, on the other hand..
Edit: Actually, after watching your video, that lag is abnormal even for the non-lagfixed captivate. Mine had nowhere near that level of lag. Try downloading a program called Watchtower and seeing if any single program is bogging down your cpu? You can also try advanced task killer and kill all the apps - if your phone speeds up, it's probably some background process eating up your processing resources.

It is laggy, however in my opinion there seems to be an awful lot going on on that phone. Seems packed with widgets. Regardless, it shouldn't move like it does. I would jump to Cognition.

Thanks guys! I put Cognition on this by first going back to Eclair and this thing freakin flies! Unbelievable because I've tried many lag fixes and they didn't work very well. Does Cognition work just as well on the leaked Froyo build?

crossover37 said:
Thanks guys! I put Cognition on this by first going back to Eclair and this thing freakin flies! Unbelievable because I've tried many lag fixes and they didn't work very well. Does Cognition work just as well on the leaked Froyo build?
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It does fly and with the new vodoo lag fix built in I am sure it will be just as fast (still on an i9000 Rom myself till tonight lol)
I do agree that there was alot going your screen, load that much on to any launcher and it will lag.
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crossover37 said:
Thanks guys! I put Cognition on this by first going back to Eclair and this thing freakin flies! Unbelievable because I've tried many lag fixes and they didn't work very well. Does Cognition work just as well on the leaked Froyo build?
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IMO, possibly better. I have a very positive opinion of DesignGears's Cognition builds. Some have been better than others (stay away from B8) but the latest B9 is screaming. The speed added with the extra features in Froyo and you have a new captivate experience. After posting a response to you last night I want to upload a video for you to see the difference, but had some camera driver issues.

Shovelhead84 said:
IMO, possibly better. I have a very positive opinion of DesignGears's Cognition builds. Some have been better than others (stay away from B8) but the latest B9 is screaming. The speed added with the extra features in Froyo and you have a new captivate experience. After posting a response to you last night I want to upload a video for you to see the difference, but had some camera driver issues.
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I want Froyo on my phone like I had it but it was really laggy and had less RAM available than Eclair. A video would be awesome, hopefully you can get one on here. Thanks.

[Q] Voodoo kernel for GB

I come from Motorola devices since I've owned my Charge, so Sammy stuff is all new to me.
Im intrigued by voodoo and what it does. I think its awesome, and Im not sure who people can live without it. I also don't know the history of it. My guess is it has originated from a different device like Galaxy S series, and its just been ported over to the Charge.
With that said, are there any GB kernels on any platform running GB? And if not, is there currently any development being done to maybe get a GB compatible Kernel?
Thanks
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On the epic 4g forums they have ext4 for GB, which is essentially all voodoo does

boostedjti said:
On the epic 4g forums they have ext4 for GB, which is essentially all voodoo does
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voodoo does convert your system to ext4 but afaik the lagfix itself is more involved than a simple swap from rfs to ext4...but thats not my area of knowledge

Would love some news from imnuts and his super hero cape on this soon

It will happen eventually. It's much harder getting it on the GB leak now because we have a limited amount of space to work with since the kernel is pre-compiled. When source is available, it's much easier. Repacking a kernel also does not always work, as my many attempts at doing even simple changes have shown.

GB Rom or Froyo?

Which is faster when using a voodoo kernel? As I understand it, voodoo kernels for GB just came out. What quadrant scores are you achieving on GB using a voodoo kernel?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies and/or screenshots! I'm stoked to be a part of the Charge community when my phone arrives on Monday!
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thelandon said:
Which is faster when using a voodoo kernel? As I understand it, voodoo kernels for GB just came out. What quadrant scores are you achieving on GB using a voodoo kernel?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies and/or screenshots! I'm stoked to be a part of the Charge community when my phone arrives on Monday!
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Froyo is faster and more stable atm.. I would suggest you start with Froyo.. and then try GB at a later time after you have a feel for the phone on a stable platform.

I agree with kejar31. You may be able to achieve a higher quadrant score on gb, but quadrant means nothing. Froyo is the way to go until the final release leak or the official release.

Sleek69 said:
I agree with kejar31. You may be able to achieve a higher quadrant score on gb, but quadrant means nothing. Froyo is the way to go until the final release leak or the official release.
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I am not even sure people are getting higher quadrant scores with GB even with the Lagfix

start with getting CWM and flashing a voodoo kernel, maybe flash rooted/debloated EE4 (my set up) and see how you like it... then test the waters maybe with Humble or GummyCharged, after you get the hang of the phone/flashing maybe then go on to GB and GB roms
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge

I'm coming from a Fascinate previously running JT's CM7, so I'm very familiar with both Samsung and flashing. Having said that, (with no disrespect to those who aren't devs) I'll take the advice of kejar and start with 2.2.
I understand that source code is very important for further development to continue. Coming from a Fascinate, Samsung is/was/has been notoriously slow. Have there been any major OTA's/improvements released by Samsung to come along since the Charge was released, or should I expect to rely mainly upon the awesome devs here at XDA for support (as I did with the Fascinate)? Btw... thanks again for all you do, to all of the devs who support and make our androids useable/awesome/incredible/insert adjective!

thelandon said:
I'm coming from a Fascinate previously running JT's CM7, so I'm very familiar with both Samsung and flashing. Having said that, (with no disrespect to those who aren't devs) I'll take the advice of kejar and start with 2.2.
I understand that source code is very important for further development to continue. Coming from a Fascinate, Samsung is/was/has been notoriously slow. Have there been any major OTA's/improvements released by Samsung to come along since the Charge was released, or should I expect to rely mainly upon the awesome devs here at XDA for support (as I did with the Fascinate)? Btw... thanks again for all you do, to all of the devs who support and make our androids useable/awesome/incredible/insert adjective!
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yeah 2.2's a good starting point, its very much like the Fascinate... as for OTAs, I believe the Charge shipped with ED1, then got an update to ED2 and finally EE4 (what my Charge had when I got it). If I read correctly there have been several GB leaks (3 maybe?) but no official OTA or even announcement of it receiving GB. I believe it will (hopefully soon) seeing as there have been GB leaks indicating they're working on it and for the time being its samsung's flagship 4G device, I don't think they'd leave it high and dry (though I wouldn't put it past them with the whole fascinate debacle )