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Is Froyo Stable?

so now that there is a froyo leak out for our phones, is it stable enough to update to it? i was thinking of going for the cognition v2.2 froyo, but obviously dont want a ton on unreliability problems lol...so whats the status on that?

I can't speak to cognition, but I have been running Froyo since it came out a few days ago (no root or lagfix) and it seems fine. Some have complained about lag - if it is there, it is not near as bad as stock 2.1. Others have said the browser has a memory leak - i have not run into that yet either.
Overall the plusses outway the minuses. I am happy with it so far. I have not had any crashes or FCs and the GPS is no worse then JH7. Unless i find a show stopper issue, I will keep it for now.

oh cool, so is it a final release of froyo or was it just a beta leak?

SiL3nTKiLL said:
oh cool, so is it a final release of froyo or was it just a beta leak?
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I would call it Beta. There is still stuff that looks like they ported the i9000 Rom over and they still need to do a little clean up. Some EU spellings of things, some minor bugs, Wireless AP and USB tether are present.
I think this is the 2.2 Captivate Base that they will build from. A solid Beta, but not the final.

It has been running fine for me. Once Rom Manager gets updated things will be great. Only AppsInstaller doesn't work for me but its not really that big of a deal.

This FROYO is actually very stable in that everything works perfect.............Have been running for 24 hrs barely so theres a bit more testing needed but yea its definately a GO . At first i got a couple of force closes on several of stock apps like music, phone, and a couple of others but only happend once and never happen again kind of like if it was still setting up or something but besides that and some odd color changes 2.2 is stunning i notice an overall snappier feel market 2x quiker (i dont use lag fix because it ruinned my OS a few times thats just me) and with root enabled the limitations are infinate

I've only been using it for half the day, but I have to say that samsung fixed most of the little annoying problems with this phone. We finally got the phone we paid for with the exception of lag. It's still there, but the one click lag fix solves that. All in all,i recommend the update. Especially with cognition.

cognition 2.2
I'm running the most recent release of Cognition 2.2 for Froyo with the built in one click lag fix. (Even though I really didn't even need to run the lag fix, its that smooth) It is sick. Phone is just silky smooth in all aspects. The only thing I noticed was that flash was slowing the browser down a little, but only on super large pages with tons of plug ins like huffingtonpost so I set the plug in setting to "on demand" and now I can't find a page large enough to slow down the browser. I put it next to my friends new Iphone4 and it was embarassing how much faster the Captivate was loading pages. Only things that arent working on 2.2 yet are titanium backup, which you really shouldnt use for this anyway since you don't want to install 2.1 apps on the 2.2 update, and Rom manager, but I fully expect that with the level of support we've seen from the Rom dev, he will have it updated in no time as well as an update for Titanium. Overall, I almost feel for the first time that I no longer need to scour the forums looking for ways to improve the phone. It is just sick (have I said how sick it is?) how well it runs with Cognition. GPS works perfectly, and I don't mean just getting locks. I put it on my dash and have been driving around a lot for two days and My Tracks is right on. My position does not drift off the road AT ALL anymore. No more being on other streets and otherwise just drifting around all nilly willy. GPS Test shows at least 6 or 7 locked satellites and usually 9 or 10 locked. I don't think I would get better performance out of a Garmin or Tom Tom. It does get better sat locks on the dash with a clear view of the sky rather than in the cup holder in the center console however, but that is to be expected with any GPS device. Even so, it was still fully functional in the cupholer.
I installed by Odin one click back to stock, did a GSM Master Reset via the phone keypad *2767*3855# then rooted, put the downloaded Cognition 2.2 file on my internal sd card, and then installed with Rom Manager, (works because I'm back on 2.1 at this point) I HIGHLY recommend this. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with all the spare time I just freed up by not having to flash my phone a million more times
P.S. If you can, donate a few bucks to DesignGears for the work he has done with this. It's totally worth it! It's amazing that he's gotten a ROM out so fast with the release and he is constantly working on, upgrading, and tweaking his work to make it better. (which is why im sure I'll be flashing again in the future /cry)

cognition 2.2
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elco27 said:
Open internet browser and go to "cnet dot com" Then select cnet TV.
Check if you can play any video from that webpage.
On 2.1 there is no problem playng them.
On 2.2 you cant play them.
This is just one of i9000 froyo's problems.
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What does that have to do with Froyo as a stable OS?

I just opened Cnet tv and I could play the video.

elco27 said:
Open internet browser and go to "cnet dot com" Then select cnet TV.
Check if you can play any video from that webpage.
On 2.1 there is no problem playng them.
On 2.2 you cant play them.
This is just one of i9000 froyo's problems.
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I can play them. Just click the names. 2.2 stock 'beta'.

Go to pocketnow.com (full desktop version) and click through a few articles there. Muhahaha. Scrolling will become ultra slow, other apps will be forced out of memory, and you may even get a browser crash if you're lucky. That's the memory leak bug.

gtg465x said:
Go to pocketnow.com (full desktop version) and click through a few articles there. Muhahaha. Scrolling will become ultra slow, other apps will be forced out of memory, and you may even get a browser crash if you're lucky. That's the memory leak bug.
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Huh? No, that did not happen. Whaa? No mem leak.

carterman said:
Huh? No, that did not happen. Whaa? No mem leak.
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Go to the site and open your task manager. Is the browser not using about 100 MB of memory? Memeory leak.

The FroYo build is stable and fast. I like it.

I rolled back. It is stable - but some of the underlying features are broken. Forwarding emails does not include any comments you make. Google contact groups now work, but the listed names map to the wrong contacts.
Some nice improvements overall, but some issues are show stoppers for me. It won't crash though - or at least it didn't for me.

Has anyone tried enabling jit on this? I know it was attempted on 2.1 but no one made it past the lock screen before it bootlooped on the galaxy s. 2.2 is made for jit & it should be more stable now right? All I could find in the forums is how to do this for other phones like the droid x (sounds pretty unstable though) & im too much of a noob to figure out how to apply that to my captivate to try it.
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Froyo has been pretty stable for me, and certainly better overall than 2.1 was. It still needs work to have what I would call a well-polished feel, but overall I find it to be an upgrade.
I'm hoping it is a beta, and we'll get an even better one soon

metalmansam said:
Has anyone tried enabling jit on this? I know it was attempted on 2.1 but no one made it past the lock screen before it bootlooped on the galaxy s. 2.2 is made for jit & it should be more stable now right? All I could find in the forums is how to do this for other phones like the droid x (sounds pretty unstable though) & im too much of a noob to figure out how to apply that to my captivate to try it.
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JIT is already enabled.

My phone lags way too much (I have video showing it), which lagfix would you choose?

Which lagfix do you think would make my phone more stable and less laggy, the SRE lagfix combo for JH6, the SRE lagfix combo for JH7 or the z4mod for froyo? Thanks.
Check out the video showing the lag my phone has. I have the leaked Froyo build on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA904wzbCdY

Cognition ftw
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I would suggest Cognation as well for 2.2 or any of the roms posted as I have tried a few and they all have been faster then the stock. I also noticed from your video that you have alot on your pages, i noticed that the more i have on the screen the slower LP takes to load. might try slimming down and see if that speeds it up.

I'm using RyanZA's one click from the market. It works well and I haven't had any problems with it. Froyo, on the other hand..
Edit: Actually, after watching your video, that lag is abnormal even for the non-lagfixed captivate. Mine had nowhere near that level of lag. Try downloading a program called Watchtower and seeing if any single program is bogging down your cpu? You can also try advanced task killer and kill all the apps - if your phone speeds up, it's probably some background process eating up your processing resources.

It is laggy, however in my opinion there seems to be an awful lot going on on that phone. Seems packed with widgets. Regardless, it shouldn't move like it does. I would jump to Cognition.

Thanks guys! I put Cognition on this by first going back to Eclair and this thing freakin flies! Unbelievable because I've tried many lag fixes and they didn't work very well. Does Cognition work just as well on the leaked Froyo build?

crossover37 said:
Thanks guys! I put Cognition on this by first going back to Eclair and this thing freakin flies! Unbelievable because I've tried many lag fixes and they didn't work very well. Does Cognition work just as well on the leaked Froyo build?
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It does fly and with the new vodoo lag fix built in I am sure it will be just as fast (still on an i9000 Rom myself till tonight lol)
I do agree that there was alot going your screen, load that much on to any launcher and it will lag.
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crossover37 said:
Thanks guys! I put Cognition on this by first going back to Eclair and this thing freakin flies! Unbelievable because I've tried many lag fixes and they didn't work very well. Does Cognition work just as well on the leaked Froyo build?
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IMO, possibly better. I have a very positive opinion of DesignGears's Cognition builds. Some have been better than others (stay away from B8) but the latest B9 is screaming. The speed added with the extra features in Froyo and you have a new captivate experience. After posting a response to you last night I want to upload a video for you to see the difference, but had some camera driver issues.

Shovelhead84 said:
IMO, possibly better. I have a very positive opinion of DesignGears's Cognition builds. Some have been better than others (stay away from B8) but the latest B9 is screaming. The speed added with the extra features in Froyo and you have a new captivate experience. After posting a response to you last night I want to upload a video for you to see the difference, but had some camera driver issues.
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I want Froyo on my phone like I had it but it was really laggy and had less RAM available than Eclair. A video would be awesome, hopefully you can get one on here. Thanks.

If the droid x....

If the droid x is rumored to get their gingerbread update on sunday, does that mean the droid 2 global should also see the update soon?
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It's a rumor, that rumor just came out. One can assume the D2G would hopefully get Gingerbread around the same time but it is impossible to say, Moto could just never update it for all we know, and the odds of the DX getting this update on Sunday are already slim from that I can tell, just chill out and be patient.

Honestly, I don't care if the phone gets updated to Gingerbread or not. There is little difference between Froyo and Gingerbread. Certainly not as much as Froyo-Eclair difference. Plus I am not fan of the new Gingerbread taskbar, but that's just me. What I care more is to get an update that fixes the annoying glitches of the phone like the exchange intermittent push.

leobg said:
Honestly, I don't care if the phone gets updated to Gingerbread or not. There is little difference between Froyo and Gingerbread. Certainly not as much as Froyo-Eclair difference. Plus I am not fan of the new Gingerbread taskbar, but that's just me. What I care more is to get an update that fixes the annoying glitches of the phone like the exchange intermittent push.
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I honestly didn't notice any differences between froyo and eclair from the experience I had with both. I still don't use app2sd and that's the big thing everyone was claiming, aside from so called speed improvements which I don't see. However Gingerbread has the gpu do the graphical work of the OS instead of the CPU the ways 2.2 does right? From what I understand that should fix all the fun lag we see when web browsing and doing other simple things which you almost never see in iOS or mobile systems. To me that is potentially a big deal.

yes, gingerbread has speed improvements which includes gpu generated transition graphics and such, you may not thing that its major, but when a phone that is laggy and choppy as hell with froyo gets gingerbread and all of a sudden its as silky smooth as a top of the line phone, i.e. the OG droid with gingerbread to the D2G, that is definitely a significant change.

Gingerbread Leaked for Captivate. Infuse on its way?

http://www.androidcentral.com/official-gingerbread-233-samsung-captivate-leaks-out
Gingerbread seems to have leaked out for the Captivate. If gingerbread is in the works for an older device, that means its on its way for the infuse. Right? Right???

Hmm..im gonna check when i get to work later. Im a rep an usually know a week or 2 before an update is released. Normally they do release an update for more than one device. Froyo came out on the captivate an aria at the same time...and seeing the canadian infuse released with gingerbread id say its right around the corner...remember this is our top phone right now. And at&t wants it to stay like that for a bit.
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i really dont understand why companies dont release phones with new software.
its kind of irritating waiting for a "Official Update"

How about is it possible to flash The Captivates Gingerbread to the Infuse? lol

Terrigno said:
How about is it possible to flash The Captivates Gingerbread to the Infuse? lol
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I wouldn't count on it. Our phone appears to have a partition layout more akin to the original galaxy s and to top it off our hardware is pretty different, so I wouldn't trust it. People were bricking their infuses in the first week or so by getting a little too adventurous with Captivate stuff.

Transformer27 said:
i really dont understand why companies dont release phones with new software.
its kind of irritating waiting for a "Official Update"
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They don't release it with current software because changing the base software in the middle of the project probably pushes the risk beyond what they are comfortable with.
Source: Business 101

lets hope the Rogers version does release with gingerbread. only a matter of flashing it.

Ive only had my Infuse for about 2 weeks, and this is my first android so dont kill me when I ask lol. But what is the difference between froyo and gingerbread??

Ive only had my Infuse for about 2 weeks, and this is my first android so dont kill me when I ask lol. But what is the difference between froyo and gingerbread??

More smoothness with the roms, ability for glow at the end of a scroll, crt animation and built in support for voip.

vilimmarijan said:
Ive only had my Infuse for about 2 weeks, and this is my first android so dont kill me when I ask lol. But what is the difference between froyo and gingerbread??
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2.3 - 2.2 = 0.1 difference hehehe
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vilimmarijan said:
Ive only had my Infuse for about 2 weeks, and this is my first android so dont kill me when I ask lol. But what is the difference between froyo and gingerbread??
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different drm (it can stream netflix)
smoother browser on Samsung devices which don't have the best browser performance on froyo
smoother/quicker market downloads updates and installs.
cool animations and effects for extra wow factor.
media encoding/decoding enhancements resulting in better quadrant scores.

GB Rom or Froyo?

Which is faster when using a voodoo kernel? As I understand it, voodoo kernels for GB just came out. What quadrant scores are you achieving on GB using a voodoo kernel?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies and/or screenshots! I'm stoked to be a part of the Charge community when my phone arrives on Monday!
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thelandon said:
Which is faster when using a voodoo kernel? As I understand it, voodoo kernels for GB just came out. What quadrant scores are you achieving on GB using a voodoo kernel?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies and/or screenshots! I'm stoked to be a part of the Charge community when my phone arrives on Monday!
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Froyo is faster and more stable atm.. I would suggest you start with Froyo.. and then try GB at a later time after you have a feel for the phone on a stable platform.

I agree with kejar31. You may be able to achieve a higher quadrant score on gb, but quadrant means nothing. Froyo is the way to go until the final release leak or the official release.

Sleek69 said:
I agree with kejar31. You may be able to achieve a higher quadrant score on gb, but quadrant means nothing. Froyo is the way to go until the final release leak or the official release.
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I am not even sure people are getting higher quadrant scores with GB even with the Lagfix

start with getting CWM and flashing a voodoo kernel, maybe flash rooted/debloated EE4 (my set up) and see how you like it... then test the waters maybe with Humble or GummyCharged, after you get the hang of the phone/flashing maybe then go on to GB and GB roms
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge

I'm coming from a Fascinate previously running JT's CM7, so I'm very familiar with both Samsung and flashing. Having said that, (with no disrespect to those who aren't devs) I'll take the advice of kejar and start with 2.2.
I understand that source code is very important for further development to continue. Coming from a Fascinate, Samsung is/was/has been notoriously slow. Have there been any major OTA's/improvements released by Samsung to come along since the Charge was released, or should I expect to rely mainly upon the awesome devs here at XDA for support (as I did with the Fascinate)? Btw... thanks again for all you do, to all of the devs who support and make our androids useable/awesome/incredible/insert adjective!

thelandon said:
I'm coming from a Fascinate previously running JT's CM7, so I'm very familiar with both Samsung and flashing. Having said that, (with no disrespect to those who aren't devs) I'll take the advice of kejar and start with 2.2.
I understand that source code is very important for further development to continue. Coming from a Fascinate, Samsung is/was/has been notoriously slow. Have there been any major OTA's/improvements released by Samsung to come along since the Charge was released, or should I expect to rely mainly upon the awesome devs here at XDA for support (as I did with the Fascinate)? Btw... thanks again for all you do, to all of the devs who support and make our androids useable/awesome/incredible/insert adjective!
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yeah 2.2's a good starting point, its very much like the Fascinate... as for OTAs, I believe the Charge shipped with ED1, then got an update to ED2 and finally EE4 (what my Charge had when I got it). If I read correctly there have been several GB leaks (3 maybe?) but no official OTA or even announcement of it receiving GB. I believe it will (hopefully soon) seeing as there have been GB leaks indicating they're working on it and for the time being its samsung's flagship 4G device, I don't think they'd leave it high and dry (though I wouldn't put it past them with the whole fascinate debacle )