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I recieved this email from Samsung USA Support in regard to my questions on the GPS fix and the FROYO 2.2 update yesterday 9/14/2010: GPS fix soon... nada on the FROYO
Dear Gary,
Samsung continues to listen to customer feedback on GPS performance expectations on launched Galaxy S devices. We are currently testing software updates which will optimize GPS performance. We expect to be able to make the updates available this September and will communicate more information and download instructions in the next few weeks. Unfortunately, we are unable to speculate when/if this software FROYO 2.2 might be available due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion.
Should this become available, it will be posted on our website in the Samsung Download Center.
Should you desire additional assistance resolving this, we invite you to call Samsung Customer Support by phone at our toll free number 1-888-987-4357 between the hours 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, and 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturday, Central Standard Time.
We appreciate your understanding in this matter.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
i like the "when/if" and "should this become available"....thats promising
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i like the "when/if" and "should this become available"....thats promising
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That makes me really sad
To be honest though, i'm pretty happy with the phone as is. Froyo is more a topping for me than the ice cream.
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that's it, that's exactly why i'm not buying anything else (phone) from Samsung. their software support is terrible, they give you a super phone and after that they forget about you. Once I bought their flagship of that time - innov8, and I was glad I got rid of it, their firmware support afterwards was miserable.
Hopefully the Galaxy S firmware and kernel will work on our phones.
I don't think we can really "rely" on any of the manufacturers to push these updates with any speed. For me, and I think for a lot of people, one of the main reasons I went with the Capy and the Android platform, was because of the great Devs here, and their ability to get things out faster, and without all of the restrictions found in the mfg's updates.
In my opinion, we can't take what they said too seriously regarding Froyo. We all know they will release Froyo.
Honestly, there's nothing wrong with Eclair, and aside from the ability to load apps onto SD, I doubt there will be any noticeable difference between 2.1 and 2.2
just my 2 cents
Edit; Maybe the "IF" means that Samsung will pass over Froyo and is developing Gingerbread instead. Would you dump a ton of money into an OS that will be "obsolete" within the next few months? I wouldn't
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that's it, that's exactly why i'm not buying anything else (phone) from Samsung. their software support is terrible, they give you a super phone and after that they forget about you. Once I bought their flagship of that time - innov8, and I was glad I got rid of it, their firmware support afterwards was miserable.
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What is so bad about your captivate software besides the GPS issues, I must ask?
I have been using the original JF6 firmware since launch and have not had any other problems rather than a browser hiccup here and there.
As soon as your rooted and have enabled side-loading your good to go.
I really havent had the urge to flash other ROMs because I am getting everything I want out of this one. (And that is coming from someone that used to flash winmo roms every other week)
I think the phone itself is great and really have no problems with it. The GPS I can live with until the update, though it does bum me out. However, I got this phone for two reasons.. 1) to sync with Linux (my default desktop operating system) and 2) because it said it was compatible with my enterprise email.. the latter is false. Until Froyo (apparently) I'm locked out of my calendar. That's a huge problem for me and borderline false advertising if you ask me. I'll be patient through Sept to see if they deliver since that date keeps getting thrown out. I hope they don't disappoint!
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2) because it said it was compatible with my enterprise email.. the latter is false. Until Froyo (apparently) I'm locked out of my calendar. That's a huge problem for me and borderline false advertising if you ask me. I'll be patient through Sept to see if they deliver since that date keeps getting thrown out. I hope they don't disappoint!
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I have no problem sync calendar with my coporate exchange server. The only sync problem I have is sync with Hotmail contacts (doesn't sync) but Microsoft does say it is a known issue for Android 2.1.
I don't think samsung will poss over group for gingerbread. for one it has been promised after froyo was passed up on, was it the moment?
also I know a samsung engineer, he works with the cdma phones and doesn't know the schedule for the cappy and vibrant but quoted that they are working around the clock to get the froyo updates released and there wouldn't be an unusually long wait. he also says that he can't give information that's not officially released so I'm not gonna bug him any more on that.
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Froyo is really important to me. Google likes to make a lot of their new cool stuff (Voice Actions and Chrome-to-Phone, for example) for 2.2 only. I bought this phone so I could be on the cutting edge of geekdom (subject to the limitation that I'm stuck with AT&T). I won't be happy until I can play with all the latest toys.
kangi26 said:
Honestly, there's nothing wrong with Eclair, and aside from the ability to load apps onto SD, I doubt there will be any noticeable difference between 2.1 and 2.2
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You mean besides the huge speed increase?
The people who have actually tested and benchmarked 2.2 paint a very different picture than your assumptions. The speed improvements are very significant, which will go a long way to addressing the Captivate's other big issue (besides the faulty GPS): lag.
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You mean besides the huge speed increase?
The people who have actually tested and benchmarked 2.2 paint a very different picture than your assumptions. The speed improvements are very significant, which will go a long way to addressing the Captivate's other big issue (besides the faulty GPS): lag.
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I'm not saying that 2.2 is not faster than 2.1, my assumption, is, put a Captivate running 2.1 and one running(when it's available) 2.2, and I suspect that most people would be hard pressed to tell the difference performance wise.
I dont put alot of faith in benchmarks. Just for example, I ran Quadrant on my Cappy, pulled a 866, installed the lag fix, I'm now running over 2000, I cant see ANY difference at all, everything opens just as quickly as it did before the lag fix
2.2 In general is faster... but not the sami betas... they r slower as they have not gotten jit working.
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That's also my observation. Benchmark scores often mean nothing and very misleading. I have a Moto Droid before I got my captivate. After I upgraded the Moto Droid to 2.2 (a couple of weeks ago), I see absolutely no difference performance wise. My friend is also using Moto Droid and said the same thing.
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I'm not saying that 2.2 is not faster than 2.1, my assumption, is, put a Captivate running 2.1 and one running(when it's available) 2.2, and I suspect that most people would be hard pressed to tell the difference performance wise.
I dont put alot of faith in benchmarks. Just for example, I ran Quadrant on my Cappy, pulled a 866, installed the lag fix, I'm now running over 2000, I cant see ANY difference at all, everything opens just as quickly as it did before the lag fix
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I'm waiting on flash thats the main reason I bought a cap.
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When I first got my Captivate, I was excited by all that Froyo would bring. But now I've got my Captivate running JH7 with SRE (and shortly with VooDoo), and loaded with all the apps I like.
When Froyo comes out, some of my apps won't work until there are new releases, and some of the tweaks I'm getting (SRE and VooDoo etc.) will be gone, at least initially. Plus, AT&T's control I'm sure will be tighter as they removed stuff they initially forgot (like how tethered 'disappeared' from JF6 to JH3+).
So, I'm debating if I should still be excited by Froyo. I'm sure I'll back up my current 'happy place' config/ROM and give Froyo a shot, and maybe I'll keep it. Maybe not.
Just wondering if anyone else is likewise cooling on Froyo now that we have so many DEV patches/ROMs/enhancements.
New technology is always gonna come with some growing pains
Remember we'll be able to use our full ram, try out flash with jit compiler, and then the mass developing of custom roms with take hold.
And omg app2sd comes with froyo. I had my htc aria running with froyo and it is the only thing I miss.
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SRE v.2B6 w/Voodoo LagFix - JH7
the question is WHEEENNNNNN!!!!
September 23rd
Is Froyo worth getting excited about still? Umm... YES! Seriously, I've used it extensivly at work on a Nexus One and Evo. The browser just screams! There are times when I forget its a mobile browser - its that fast.
Do you think the Cappy is fast now? Just wait. Menu animations, transitions, general UI snappy-ness is much improved. Plus, native apps2sd and other little enhancements are great.
My favorite feature is "Chrome to Phone" support. https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/oadboiipflhobonjjffjbfekfjcgkhco
Its so cool! So, yeah, I'm still excited at least.
do you think a new os is gonna stop designgears from releasing a new sre? jh7 is good but if its an indication of what's to come in froyo then I'm excited. I doubt we will see the level of improvement that snapdragon phones see but a few features will be worth the update.
I personally will wait for the voodoo lagfix to have an overclock froyo kernel to upgrade. and I'm sure that won't take long, I mean how different can froyo be? I'm sure many system files are in the same location and function the same way.
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I just finally dumped Big Red and came over to AT&T (combined contracts with my wife). I'm going from the HTC Incredible and purchased the Sammy Captivate. I was very active back in the Dinc forum, and would consider myself "Advanced" - I did some development, but wasn't yet at the level of ROM Cooking.
I got over here to the Captivate - I'm confused as hell. I've followed my own advice and read forum after forum after forum before posting anything - the Cappy just seems like Greek to me.
Here's what I'm picking up:
1. GPS is spotty, but not for everyone. Mine has always been dead on, but then again I'm not a first-adopter of the Galaxy S. Perhaps it was a batch issue?
2. ROMs seem significantly harder to cook for the Cappy. I see a bunch of leaks from the Froyo build, but it looks half-done at best. Don't get me wrong, I'm running Cognition and I love it for day to day use. I had read a bit online about the lag issues, but I didn't imagine they would be *this* prominent even after rooting and removing bloatware.
That's about it, really. I'm checking back in the forums every day. I'm loving the hardware on this phone - the screen is fantastic, and when the Cappy is fast it's FAST. But I've gotta admit I'm fairly dissapointed thus far with some of the User Experience pieces. The Samsung overlay has some nice attributes (the swiping in Contacts is great, for one), but there are other bits that are wholly frustrating about this phone (WHY would they make the buttons at the bottom time out before the screen, forcing you to touch the screen to get the buttons lit up again??).
OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
I must apologize, this has turned from a general "how do you do" to a vent-fest. I'd love to hear from any experienced and new users alike. Thanks!
hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).
What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.
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What WiFi issues are you having? I can't even "see" any WPA networks. I have a Verizon FiOS router and can't see it because I'm assuming the WPA security. I tried switching to WEP though and still couldn't see it. I've search all over the web and XDA and can't seem to find anyone complaining of the same issue.
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I haven't had any problems with Wifi and use WPA. I can see all of my networks (which are G, not N).
The button thing is kind of annoying, so I agree with you there. My GPS has been hit or miss, but I bought this phone used, so I'm not sure if it was a first batch model or not.
There's not much in the way of ROMs. There's stock and leaks, then there's Cognition and Eugene's, and that's about it. All of those are based on a leak or stock build, so they'll usually contain the same problems as the stock/leak build.
We're supposed to be getting a CyanogenMOD ROM sometime, or at least be able to port it...but I'm sure they can't do anything until Samsung releases the source for Froyo.
Anoter HTC convert here, but I came from the Pure.
GPS is definitely an issue. Mine improved with the OTA update to JH7. Its still not as accurate at highway speeds as the HTC.
HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.
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OH! And why did they switch "Home" and "Menu"??? I realize Samsung is a global company and that not all of their products are released Stateside, but it's still annoying.
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That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.
Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
The lag on the galaxy s phones is the result of samsung using rfs file system - rfs has a much slower input/output read/write than ext* file systems generally found on linux distros. This is the lag that is being refereed to in the lag fixes.
so as long as samsung continues to put out official roms with rfs file system there will always be an opportunity for a "lag fix" with ext2 (i.e. ryanza's OCLF) or ext4 (i.e. voodoo).
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GPS is hit or miss, but on the FroYo leak it has gotten much better, unfortunately Samsung released the phones with brand new hardware and apparently didn't test...
The lag is as mentioned another Samsung fubar along the lines of using an inferior file system.
I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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MikeyMike01 said:
That has NOTHING to do with Samsung. At all.
Do a little research and you'll see almost every phone has a different arrangement of the four buttons.
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I've done a lot of research, and I alluded to that point in my post. Survey the *American* market and empirically you will see that of the slate Android phones, most have the buttons in the order Home, Menu, Back, Search. And I would argue that it has everything to do with Samsung - unless you're implying that someone else designed the layout of the buttons on their device. After all, they are the reason the European variant of the i9000 has three buttons like the X10, correct?
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Funny.
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Just going to answer the part of your question about the lag and lag fixes.
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Thanks, dayv. That's a good explanation and gives me some idea of where to go from here.
As for an update, turns out the WiFi issues were strictly hardware. After putting in a bridge with my FiOS router and still not getting any improvement, I took it back to Best Buy and swapped it out. Connected the second I got home. Unfortunately, the touch buttons were totally borked and I had to do a battery pull three times in 20 minutes because apparently the buttons would "touch themselves when they thought of me." In other words, you could see the buttons flash on and off, feel the haptic go crazy, and all kinds of strange stuff on the screen. Yet another swapout and I'm good to go.
I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.
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I think the reason for lack of ROMs is most people are waiting for FroYo to launch. We just got our first beta build leaked this week. Once source for the new kernel gets released, we should see a lot more activity as far as that goes.
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I imagine we can also add to this that the Captivate has only been out for not quite 3 months if I recall correctly. So between the newness and people holding their breath for Froyo I could understand people's hesitancy to invest a lot of time and energy in making a soon to be outdated ROM.
came from a tilt2 which is/was? still trying to develop android..it was pretty good but wow i can never go back to windows phone after that mess. freggin love this captivate thou...when it doesnt break lol. ive never had a phone that i seem to get ALL the known issues with and still decide to stick with getting a new one instead. I miss sense somedays but overall i still am willing to stick with a less "bogged down" OS that i can practically do the same with. if i can make the phone do what i need faster then screw the pretty screen gadgets lol
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HTC sense Rules compared to the UI in the Cappy. Im hoping that improvements will come as 2.2 is more widely adopted.
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I'm sorry but I to came from the htc aria, awesome little phone. I bought the aria because I thought the sense ui was pretty awesome. After using Cyanogen mods on the aria and playing with other launchers and now playing with tw launcher, sorry but sense ui is crap and for noobs . I got over the whole sense ui about a week of owning the aria and wasn't able to use it after adw and launcher pro.
Sorry had to post it. I just don't feel you can use an androids phone ui to bash another phone. I have only seen a few who use any androids phone stock ui any way and I'm one of them and as basic as it is it still makes sense ui look a babies toy.
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bytemare said:
hi I just came from HTC too, I had the Aira, but I broke it. When I went to the ATT store, I saw the Captivate and decided to try it. I'm with you -- the hardware specs are great, screen is beautiful, camera is better than aria, etc. But the programming is lame, especially compared to aria. I haven't had an issue with the GPS, but there are a tons of software issues on this phone, such as wifi just not working at times, the exchange email client almost unusable, lack of languages, lag, and those lights at the bottom like you mentioned. HTC sense is wonderful.
I'm also having a hard time figuring out all of the ROMS and etc out there. I did install one of the lag fixes and it's made quite a difference. I also installed the HPUSA thing but I don't know how to tell if it's actually working. Anyway, install the lag fix, it will definitely help. And if anyone knows of a fix for the wifi, I'd love to know what it is (One would expect that it would just work out of the box).
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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Not a chance lol the aria is awesome for its size but doesn't come close to the captivate , that's just my imo though. Only problem I have had with captivate is gps and I really don't use gps, so not that big of deal. The aria, like I said awesome for its size, just has to small of processor to do what the captivate can do. Most things lag on the aria games and movies almost un playable. I love my captivate.
I had bought an iphone4 for my wife to replace her old iphone. Well long story short , I turned a "i will not use anything else but iphone ! " the iphone 4 went back two weeks of having it cause of to many problems to we booth own captivates now and shes sold.
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besides the gps.... i am very satisfied. here is why.....
I woke up this morning and opened allshare to stream music from my synology diskstation. Got in the car and loaded up bluetooth to my moto speakerphone/radio transmitter. Put my captivate in my proclipusa mount and Loaded up pandora to stream to my car stereo... Loaded up the navigation for testing purposes and was on my way...
Both worked without issue on the commute in.. rocking to guerrillla radio and limp bizkit. Got some tweets and emails... and the phone took it like... IS THAT ALL YOU GOT!!!!
My blackberry 9700 would have exploded and for sure the "r" key would have flew straight into my forehead... where then people would ask me why i have an R indented in my head... is it for Retard?
I rate the phone 95% out of 100%. If you really have that much to complain about then you will never be happy with any phone.....
p.s. - for people who have captivates that reboot or shutoff, that has to be a defect and you need to get it replaced. My phone has never rebooted or shutoff by itself.
p.s.s. Gps isn't great... but the phone does everything else i need really well.
rant over.
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I also installed Eugene's Frankin-Twiz last night - it really helped improve just about everything. Hardly any lag at all and I'm liking the associated themes available. GPS on my new device works great too.
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If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.
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Curious because I'm considering returning the captivate for the aria (other than the Screen the Captivate Really Kinda Sucks). If you had it to do again would you pick the Aria over the Captivate?
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That's an interesting question. The aria costs a lot less than the captivate. As far as hardware goes, the captivate is superior: 16 GB RAM, the screen is awesome, the speaker is better (ringtones sound nicer) and the quality of phone calls, at least for me, is a lot better than the aria. Oh and the camera is LOT better on the captivate. I haven't had issues with the GPS (the aria locked on a little faster, but captivate performs well). The issues with wireless for me are really frustrating, but others don't seem to have an issue (wireless sometimes works, sometimes doesn't even though it's connected, I have no idea why).
Based on my experience, I'd rather have the captivate. It definitely takes more tweaking than the aria but in the 1 week I've had it, I think I got everything worked out. I definitely liked the sense UI and email client on the aria, but I can live with the UI and stuff on the captivate considering how much better the hardware is.
If anyone has any idea about how to fix wireless, I'd really appreciate it.
Yeah I'm not gonna lie, we really don't have much of choice on at&t . To me we only have two choices right now Aria or captivate. If at&t got a htc equivalent to the captivate then I would have a hard choice .
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If you like F-T you might like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791366
This has been a really stable rom with HSUPA enabled(no bluetooth issues) good GPS (for me) and a nice theme.
It is an international rom so all of the att crap is gone. No need for the sideloading crap.
I tried Cog beta 1,2, and 3 and F-T and I'm back to this rom. It's good for me until we get a good stable 2.2 rom.
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Thanks for the tip! I've never met a ROM that I wouldn't reflash if something else came along. I will try it out later tonight. Do you happen to know if the Twiz mods for custom fonts will flash ok?
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I had the Nexus S from the day it was launched but decided to return it within the 14 day cooling off period as I just didn't think it was worth the money and in its state at the time I didn't feel it was finished / polished as it should be.
Problems reported about the screen coating and the lack of responsiveness of the capacitive buttons also led me to the decision to return. I then started to hear stories of the phone not being able to hold a conversation for more than a few mins and the phone randomly powering off.
That was then and this is now. After the disappointment of MWC 2011 I am considering picking up the Nexus S again but I am interested to know what has improved since launch. I'm assuming the o/s has gone through a few updates and am hoping that the problems above are all now resolved.
Anything else anyone can add into the mix I would be interested to hear.
Never had a problem with it on phone #1. Didn't even have to return it.
CM7 on Nexus S is amazing.
The problems you listed have not been resolved.
Even with CM7 there are random reboots and lost of signal. Thes are gingerbread/google problems, not necessarily ROM related. Although I love the phone, it's not very stable.at least not compared to my ns1.
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This is worrying for a phone that's supposed to be at the bleeding edge as far as Google is concerned - a pthone that's meant to get all the updates as soon as they are available.
If Google know of these problems and have a fix in place (which I have read they do) then why not release it?
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This is worrying for a phone that's supposed to be at the bleeding edge as far as Google is concerned - a pthone that's meant to get all the updates as soon as they are available.
If Google know of these problems and have a fix in place (which I have read they do) then why not release it?
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face it, gingerbread was not/is not ready for mainstream. yet so why would you want them to push out another update to fix a problem if that update just isnt ready yet?
Are you kidding me? I could live with a few niggling bugs, sure I'd even expect them but if I owned a Nexus S and it was dropping calls left right and centre I'd be looking for a fix pronto!
Fixes are due this week, supposedly (According to a video posted here). Engadget had a story on it here
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nexus-s-suffering-from-random-data-loss-reboots/
Who cares about Gingerbread? Awaiting Ice Cream where it combines Gingerbread & Honeycomb
but seriously, i haven't encountered ONE bug that has been mentioned. No reboots, smooth as hell, no browser lag. The only bugs I encounter are from CM7 nightlies [when they occur]
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Who cares about Gingerbread? Awaiting Ice Cream where it combines Gingerbread & Honeycomb
but seriously, i haven't encountered ONE bug that has been mentioned. No reboots, smooth as hell, no browser lag. The only bugs I encounter are from CM7 nightlies [when they occur]
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Goto g4tv.com and let's see how smooth your browser is lol!
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Goto g4tv.com and let's see how smooth your browser is lol!
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That's probably not Gingerbread though, that's probably just flash in general.
And there is a G4 app on the market.
Ill admit that it is laggy at the beginning when its still loading, but after its done loading.. its fine, but sluggish and not 100% smooth.
Uninstall flash and try it......just as laggy!.......thanks for upping me on the app tho!
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It seems like we might have a chance of getting it. Engadget has a post up saying all 2.3 devices after.the nexus s should get ICS being that the nexus s is getting it....and we technically have a stock build of android. So I'm keeping my hopes up that we still have a chance of getting it.....what are your thoughts?
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I think if people show some positive encouragement to LG to work with and for purchasers of the p999 rather than the immature hostility that permeates several of the threads at the LG forum an update should happen. It is still and active model in tmos system.
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I was under the impression the G2x runs a stock gingerbread looking skin over LG framework. As in, just looks stock, not actually stock. http://twitter.com/#!/CM_arcee/status/63255644676960256
Seeing how much LG pooped the diaper on the GB update, I wouldn't hold your breath for anything official in the short term.
I thought they are suppose to support the android phones software upto date in period of 18months after they releas3 it? If the phone hardware can support it? Well thats what google said. I don't think lg have choice.
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But the rain came back and the birds stopped singing soon after the Google I/O Day One keynote. Barra’s comments set off a wave of excitement, but only because people misunderstood his words. Google is not forcing carriers or manufacturers to update their phones; it’s simply working with them to make updates faster and more likely.
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http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/
LG doesn't have to do anything.
I would say a G2x ICS update is totally a possibility, I just wouldnt expect LG to drop it anytime soon. Seeing how long it took LG to release GB, if the G2x does get an official update I doubt it would be before next summer.
True,.but I'm hoping some kind of news gets released saying the g2x.will get it
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I don't care what operating system version my G2x is running as long as the radios and/or drivers that control them just don't work.
I've had 4 G2Xes, on 2.2 and 2.3, with multiple sim cards and used them in many areas of the US. They simply do no stay connected to the network. I have to reboot them manually several times a day to maintain connectivity/functionality. The Android part works fine especially since the GB update, but the phone part, and even the WiFi and GPS parts just are flaky as hell. If they don't fix that, putting ICS on this phone will not be any better an experience.
And I'd bet $100 LG never updates this phone again. They are SO washing their hands of it, it's a disaster they don't want to "waste" any more time and money on even if that means screwing thousands of customers. The users know it, LG knows it, T-mobile knows it, but they are not admitting it, because responsibly dealing with this disaster would cost them a fortune. For T-mobile/LG to fix this problem they'd have to send every G2X owner a different model phone that isn't fundamentally flawed.
I wouldn't count on it.
dylanear said:
I don't care what operating system version my G2x is running as long as the radios and/or drivers that control them just don't work.
I've had 4 G2Xes, on 2.2 and 2.3, with multiple sim cards and used them in many areas of the US. They simply do no stay connected to the network. I have to reboot them manually several times a day to maintain connectivity/functionality. The Android part works fine especially since the GB update, but the phone part, and even the WiFi and GPS parts just are flaky as hell. If they don't fix that, putting ICS on this phone will not be any better an experience.
And I'd bet $100 LG never updates this phone again. They are SO washing their hands of it, it's a disaster they don't want to "waste" any more time and money on even if that means screwing thousands of customers. The users know it, LG knows it, T-mobile knows it, but they are not admitting it, because responsibly dealing with this disaster would cost them a fortune. For T-mobile/LG to fix this problem they'd have to send every G2X owner a different model phone that isn't fundamentally flawed.
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My G2x was also a POS I got it (like a fool) the day it came out, and when i first got it it sucked so bad after the second day i had it it went back in the box and sat on the closet shelf and I went back to my Nokia N8 but a month or so ago i got it out and just for the hell i played around with some ROMs and have been running Weapon G2x 2.4 without a single flaw or hiccup since.
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My G2x was also a POS I got it (like a fool) the day it came out, and when i first got it it sucked so bad after the second day i had it it went back in the box and sat on the closet shelf and I went back to my Nokia N8 but a month or so ago i got it out and just for the hell i played around with some ROMs and have been running Weapon G2x 2.4 without a single flaw or hiccup since.
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I have two G2Xes, one with CM7.1 one with stock GB. They both suck at staying connected to the network. Perhaps it's time to try another distro, but I'm pretty convinced the baseband is fundamentally flawed. If I stay in the same place I start to think it's all working, then I drive somewhere and realise how useless this phone is. I wanted to love this phone so much, on paper it's just awesome, perfect for me. In reality it's garbage and I can't wait to be rid of it. I've wasted weeks of my life on this useless thing thinking surely it can be made to work.
I got a G2x early on. Reboots every other day in the beginning, etc.
Now i'm pretty stable, can go more than a week. Just have GPS lock issues.
Rooted, stock GB, using Go Launcher and SetCPU.
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After the GB update I wouldn't hold my breath. Our phones are more than capable of handling ICS, but I doubt we'll see it.
Yeah, it can get ported, but won't work the same.
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My g2x works flawless for me, no hiccups,.always connected to the network....nothing wrong. I came back to the g2x from the mytouch 4g slide because of stock android and the support. I have a good feeling we'll see ICS eventually. If not ill just go prime
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I dunno, the G2x is like the black sheep any more. I don't see anything about it. LGs track record thus far doesn't look good in regards to updates. I bet CM team will get something stable on ICS but your looking at months...
Not a big deal. Well probably have themes and apps that could pretty closely replicate ICS while still using GB. On the nexus one, I used a GB theme on Froyo for a while before actually switching. A nice theme and new Widgets will ease the wait.
I run MIUI and Faux 4.3 and have no network issues what so ever.... that's actually what kept me on MIUI for so long... and now I'm addicted. MIUI works fantastic minus wifi calling.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI
Asus Transformer - 3.2 Revolver
player911 said:
I dunno, the G2x is like the black sheep any more. I don't see anything about it. LGs track record thus far doesn't look good in regards to updates. I bet CM team will get something stable on ICS but your looking at months...
Not a big deal. Well probably have themes and apps that could pretty closely replicate ICS while still using GB. On the nexus one, I used a GB theme on Froyo for a while before actually switching. A nice theme and new Widgets will ease the wait.
I run MIUI and Faux 4.3 and have no network issues what so ever.... that's actually what kept me on MIUI for so long... and now I'm addicted. MIUI works fantastic minus wifi calling.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI
Asus Transformer - 3.2 Revolver
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Miui that good? Man ive been out if the rooting loop for awhile.....whats the benefit of faux kernal?
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player911 said:
I dunno, the G2x is like the black sheep any more. I don't see anything about it. LGs track record thus far doesn't look good in regards to updates. I bet CM team will get something stable on ICS but your looking at months...
Not a big deal. Well probably have themes and apps that could pretty closely replicate ICS while still using GB. On the nexus one, I used a GB theme on Froyo for a while before actually switching. A nice theme and new Widgets will ease the wait.
I run MIUI and Faux 4.3 and have no network issues what so ever.... that's actually what kept me on MIUI for so long... and now I'm addicted. MIUI works fantastic minus wifi calling.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI
Asus Transformer - 3.2 Revolver
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For me MMS doesn't work on MIUI. Only reason I'm not on it.
I agree though, don't think LG will give us the update officially. It's kind of sad that Google is letting it's platforms get so dispersed. I mean both Apple and Microsoft have the updates down-pact.
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For me MMS doesn't work on MIUI. Only reason I'm not on it.
I agree though, don't think LG will give us the update officially. It's kind of sad that Google is letting it's platforms get so dispersed. I mean both Apple and Microsoft have the updates down-pact.
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Both closed platforms, that is the trade off
Which ROM has MMS working?
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For me MMS doesn't work on MIUI. Only reason I'm not on it.
I agree though, don't think LG will give us the update officially. It's kind of sad that Google is letting it's platforms get so dispersed. I mean both Apple and Microsoft have the updates down-pact.
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What ROM are you using? My MMS does not work either, I am on Xboarder's ROM(OTA Tweaked) and whenever I have wifi+2g or wifi+4g I cannot send out an MMS. If I want to send out MMS I have to turn off wifi, switch 2g on, then switch 2g off, then finally stick with 2g or 4g and then TRY to send out the MMS sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
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http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/
LG doesn't have to do anything.
I would say a G2x ICS update is totally a possibility, I just wouldnt expect LG to drop it anytime soon. Seeing how long it took LG to release GB, if the G2x does get an official update I doubt it would be before next summer.
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how can you say LG took long to update to Gingerbread. i still have my vibrant and galaxy s 4g and their still have not yet come out with gingerbread on them. imagine that after over a year.
lets see the g2x came out on april 20th
and gingerbread was july 15th
thats 85 days thats 4 months since it released date
i think LG was pretty fast with the update.
comparing to others brands
my g2x never had any problems at all
So what you guys are saying is I should return my G2X? ha I live in Milwaukee, WI and have heard good things about tmobile, why I switched and 4G is stable here. I'm still in my 14 day window and just wondering if anyone thinks I should get a better phone?