GB Rom or Froyo? - Verizon Droid Charge

Which is faster when using a voodoo kernel? As I understand it, voodoo kernels for GB just came out. What quadrant scores are you achieving on GB using a voodoo kernel?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies and/or screenshots! I'm stoked to be a part of the Charge community when my phone arrives on Monday!
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thelandon said:
Which is faster when using a voodoo kernel? As I understand it, voodoo kernels for GB just came out. What quadrant scores are you achieving on GB using a voodoo kernel?
Thanks in advance for any helpful replies and/or screenshots! I'm stoked to be a part of the Charge community when my phone arrives on Monday!
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Froyo is faster and more stable atm.. I would suggest you start with Froyo.. and then try GB at a later time after you have a feel for the phone on a stable platform.

I agree with kejar31. You may be able to achieve a higher quadrant score on gb, but quadrant means nothing. Froyo is the way to go until the final release leak or the official release.

Sleek69 said:
I agree with kejar31. You may be able to achieve a higher quadrant score on gb, but quadrant means nothing. Froyo is the way to go until the final release leak or the official release.
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I am not even sure people are getting higher quadrant scores with GB even with the Lagfix

start with getting CWM and flashing a voodoo kernel, maybe flash rooted/debloated EE4 (my set up) and see how you like it... then test the waters maybe with Humble or GummyCharged, after you get the hang of the phone/flashing maybe then go on to GB and GB roms
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge

I'm coming from a Fascinate previously running JT's CM7, so I'm very familiar with both Samsung and flashing. Having said that, (with no disrespect to those who aren't devs) I'll take the advice of kejar and start with 2.2.
I understand that source code is very important for further development to continue. Coming from a Fascinate, Samsung is/was/has been notoriously slow. Have there been any major OTA's/improvements released by Samsung to come along since the Charge was released, or should I expect to rely mainly upon the awesome devs here at XDA for support (as I did with the Fascinate)? Btw... thanks again for all you do, to all of the devs who support and make our androids useable/awesome/incredible/insert adjective!

thelandon said:
I'm coming from a Fascinate previously running JT's CM7, so I'm very familiar with both Samsung and flashing. Having said that, (with no disrespect to those who aren't devs) I'll take the advice of kejar and start with 2.2.
I understand that source code is very important for further development to continue. Coming from a Fascinate, Samsung is/was/has been notoriously slow. Have there been any major OTA's/improvements released by Samsung to come along since the Charge was released, or should I expect to rely mainly upon the awesome devs here at XDA for support (as I did with the Fascinate)? Btw... thanks again for all you do, to all of the devs who support and make our androids useable/awesome/incredible/insert adjective!
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yeah 2.2's a good starting point, its very much like the Fascinate... as for OTAs, I believe the Charge shipped with ED1, then got an update to ED2 and finally EE4 (what my Charge had when I got it). If I read correctly there have been several GB leaks (3 maybe?) but no official OTA or even announcement of it receiving GB. I believe it will (hopefully soon) seeing as there have been GB leaks indicating they're working on it and for the time being its samsung's flagship 4G device, I don't think they'd leave it high and dry (though I wouldn't put it past them with the whole fascinate debacle )

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[Q] Is Froyo 2.2 working on the Captivate?

I've read the sticky "[HOW TO] Galaxy S I9000 ROMs (Eclair & Froyo) on Captivate" and it seems like they're talking about the Eclair 2.1 release most of the way through. Does Froyo work for the Captivate in any way? If so, then does it have any problems that cannot, as of yet, be fixed? Also, how do I do it? I'm new to all of this and want to make sure I don't end up with a bricked device. I'm not scared to do it though, and will benefit from all the improvements 2.2 has to offer (in addition to rooting it and the lag fix and what not). Thanks for your replies!
I havent seen anything stating froyo was running anywhere for the phone.
There are pre pre pre pre pre release versions of froyo out for the I9000 which is mostly compatible with the captivate. These current froyo firmwares are unstable at best and don't really yield any benefit over sticking with eclair for now =P
It can, but not well. The errors are stated on the front of that thread you linked towards the end of the first post.
Speaking of froyo, I came over from vzw(still have them as well) but haven't seen any mention and would Like to know the answer to this, when is the captivate slated to get froyo? I would like an easy answer and not to get flamed. Thanks n advance
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Officially September (in corporate time probably November)
Unofficial ROMS will probably pop up in September also we have to port most of them over
It's not CONFIRMED, but a few have "inside sources" saying that there will be a release sometime in September.
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Speaking of froyo, I came over from vzw(still have them as well) but haven't seen any mention and would Like to know the answer to this, when is the captivate slated to get froyo? I would like an easy answer and not to get flamed. Thanks n advance
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No one knows for sure. Possible rumor for the end of September. That is just a rumor because Samsung tweeted about a GPS fix at that time. Now in no way am I suggesting it is coming out during that time.
Shouldn't this really belong in "General"?
That way people can maybe keep this forum for DEVELOPMENT only.
Thanks for the answer guys. Just curious. I read somewhere that the new JiT in froyo was optimized for snapdragon and I actually believe this because the new Droid 2 with the to omap that we all know is a MUch better processor only score 12-14 in linpack. That doesn't make sense. And my Droid x with stock eclair will score as high as ID with froyo on all benchmarks. Hope we aren't n for the same disappointment that was froyo on d2
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[Q] Is Froyo 2.2 still worth being excited about?

When I first got my Captivate, I was excited by all that Froyo would bring. But now I've got my Captivate running JH7 with SRE (and shortly with VooDoo), and loaded with all the apps I like.
When Froyo comes out, some of my apps won't work until there are new releases, and some of the tweaks I'm getting (SRE and VooDoo etc.) will be gone, at least initially. Plus, AT&T's control I'm sure will be tighter as they removed stuff they initially forgot (like how tethered 'disappeared' from JF6 to JH3+).
So, I'm debating if I should still be excited by Froyo. I'm sure I'll back up my current 'happy place' config/ROM and give Froyo a shot, and maybe I'll keep it. Maybe not.
Just wondering if anyone else is likewise cooling on Froyo now that we have so many DEV patches/ROMs/enhancements.
New technology is always gonna come with some growing pains
Remember we'll be able to use our full ram, try out flash with jit compiler, and then the mass developing of custom roms with take hold.
And omg app2sd comes with froyo. I had my htc aria running with froyo and it is the only thing I miss.
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SRE v.2B6 w/Voodoo LagFix - JH7
the question is WHEEENNNNNN!!!!
September 23rd
Is Froyo worth getting excited about still? Umm... YES! Seriously, I've used it extensivly at work on a Nexus One and Evo. The browser just screams! There are times when I forget its a mobile browser - its that fast.
Do you think the Cappy is fast now? Just wait. Menu animations, transitions, general UI snappy-ness is much improved. Plus, native apps2sd and other little enhancements are great.
My favorite feature is "Chrome to Phone" support. https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/oadboiipflhobonjjffjbfekfjcgkhco
Its so cool! So, yeah, I'm still excited at least.
do you think a new os is gonna stop designgears from releasing a new sre? jh7 is good but if its an indication of what's to come in froyo then I'm excited. I doubt we will see the level of improvement that snapdragon phones see but a few features will be worth the update.
I personally will wait for the voodoo lagfix to have an overclock froyo kernel to upgrade. and I'm sure that won't take long, I mean how different can froyo be? I'm sure many system files are in the same location and function the same way.
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[Q] Difference between Gingerbread leak and CM7

What is the difference between the TB Gingerbread leak and CM7? It is my understanding that the Gingerbread leak is Sense while CM7 is AOSP. Are there any other differences? For those who have flashed both which do you prefer?
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It is my understanding that the Gingerbread leak is Sense while CM7 is AOSP. Are there any other differences?
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Forgive my sounding ass-holish, but that's about as different as it gets.
I'm personally a Sense man, as I love HTC's integration, but CM has it's place as well. I flashed the leak, and other than awful battery life, I'm loving it.
It should be stated though, awful it relative. I flashed BAMF 10 minutes after leaving the store, so I have no idea if it's better or worse than stock.
You seem to imply you bought the phone with gingerbread. That cannot be true.
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Of course I have to differ with the other guy.
Technichally they are now both the "same" as both run android 2.3.4. The difference is CM7 is stock android while sense gingerbread is what HTC thinks android should look and feel. So try both and stick with what you like.
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While I am happy to see the GB leak come out, keep in mind that neither it nor CM7 are fully developed for the TB yet. There are issues with both, and the performance of the Froyo roms is still superior at this point.
With my D1, when I switched to GB it gave me significant boosts to performance and battery life. I hope to see the same for TB eventually.
For now BAMF with lean kernel is a tremendous combo.
turbosrrgood said:
While I am happy to see the GB leak come out, keep in mind that neither it nor CM7 are fully developed for the TB yet. There are issues with both, and the performance of the Froyo roms is still superior at this point.
With my D1, when I switched to GB it gave me significant boosts to performance and battery life. I hope to see the same for TB eventually.
For now BAMF with lean kernel is a tremendous combo.
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+1 - Going to totally agree here. At least until BAMF comes out with a build off of GB, then I will make the switch. I have messed with both and I don't like to make sacrifices (camera, data in some cases, etc) so I am sticking with the current Froyo roms.
since i can't post in the dev forum yet, will the GB radios brick CM7?
JBAeroEngineer said:
since i can't post in the dev forum yet, will the GB radios brick CM7?
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No but you will also have no data.
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No but you will also have no data.
Sent from my Gingerbreaded Thunderbolt.
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gotcha. hard to keep track of the pace of those threads. i'm sure it was mentioned. so flash rom, and then load froyo radios?
Sense and CM7 are worlds apart... the only common denominator is the base version of Android... thankfully.
Wanted sense 3.0 but 2.1 is doing just fine. And battery life for me on the leak isn't that bad either. And I've tried all roms, kernel combos there is
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back to froyo for me
turbosrrgood said:
While I am happy to see the GB leak come out, keep in mind that neither it nor CM7 are fully developed for the TB yet. There are issues with both, and the performance of the Froyo roms is still superior at this point.
With my D1, when I switched to GB it gave me significant boosts to performance and battery life. I hope to see the same for TB eventually.
For now BAMF with lean kernel is a tremendous combo.
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I agree with you regarding the GINGER-leak and CM7 based on 2.3.4. My testing yesterday (of gingerjane 1.2) reveled beside the obvious camera bug much slower LTE speeds (like at least 5x slower). Both of those are serious enough to make me go back to Froyo until bugs are worked out. And I am sure there are other bugs. The TB is my primary phone and I need a fully working one.
Anyone has noticed much slower LTE speeds with 2.3.4, perhaps due to the new radios? The speed was below 2 mbps download, when I get 12-22 mbps at home with the last OTA radios and froyo.

Gingerbread 2.3.4 Leak [EP1F] by TBH is out!!!!

I am downloading the gingerbreak 2.3.4 EP1F leak right now from P3droid.... It doesn't contain Imnut's recovery so no "infringement" (not my words) is occuring...
Because I already have permission to pack his kernels and recoveries in my ODIN packages I should be able to package his recovery with this new gingerbread leak. I will of course ask Imnuts one more time for permission just to be safe.
I am trying to make this easy for everyone so the community doesn't suffer. Thanks
** Because P3droid is currently charging 2 dollars for his app to get this, I will wait until I get permission **
**UPDATE** I got permission from imnuts to use his recovery... That's great!!!
**UPDATE** SEE DEV FORUM NOW... ITS RELEASED
Give it!! Lol. Thanks.
OMG P3 runs Imnuts into the ground and then releases 2.3.4 so he looks like the bigger person when all he had to do to begin with was say "I understand, we will just release it without CWM"
what a crock.
I'm glad to hear that, and looking forward to it! I'm a Droid Xer myself with a Nook Color, so P3Droid is kind of my hero by nature. It's really a shame he and Imnuts are in a disagreement, I like them both very much. I'm just attempting to get my sister's brand new Charge stable and fast!
Looking forward to it.
I can confirm that it does not contain CWM, the reboot recovery command took me to the stock recovery, haven't flashed it yet, going through app restores first.
ieAnd said:
I'm glad to hear that, and looking forward to it! I'm a Droid Xer myself with a Nook Color, so P3Droid is kind of my hero by nature. It's really a shame he and Imnuts are in a disagreement, I like them both very much. I'm just attempting to get my sister's brand new Charge stable and fast!
Looking forward to it.
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While you are waiting for gingerbread try my Humble 1.25 rom... its extremely stable and great on battery life
danalo1979 said:
While you are waiting for gingerbread try my Humble 1.25 rom... its extremely stable and great on battery life
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ETA? Because I'll flash Humble if its greater than 1 day for 2.3.4
Syn Ack said:
ETA? Because I'll flash Humble if its greater than 1 day for 2.3.4
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ETA will be tonight at 9pm central time for the new leak... I will try to get permission to package and have that up too. Look in the dev section
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While you are waiting for gingerbread try my Humble 1.25 rom... its extremely stable and great on battery life
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Alright man, thanks! I'll give it a try!
Thank you for rising above. My Charge arrives tomorrow and I cannot wait to get my hands on it and put 2.3.4 on it.
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Sorry but i have to say from a low level dev point of view, charging for leaks is crap. That being said. If you release a custom leak, just release it. Android is open source and charging because you got the leak before somebody else is garbage. As far as the big time devs on the charge. I support the work they do and know the time it takes to put into building a rom. I've killed a Sony Vaio FX11 compiling a 2.3.4 rom and it is a long tedious task. . Wait for one of the devs to put it out and then get it. Don't jump on the newest thing because there's bugs to be worked out.
NOTED: This is my opinion. And hopefully is just taken as such.
can't wait to see this leak get on to rom devs like kejar's hands!
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dragonstalker said:
Sorry but i have to say from a low level dev point of view, charging for leaks is crap. That being said. If you release a custom leak, just release it. Android is open source and charging because you got the leak before somebody else is garbage. As far as the big time devs on the charge. I support the work they do and know the time it takes to put into building a rom. I've killed a Sony Vaio FX11 compiling a 2.3.4 rom and it is a long tedious task. . Wait for one of the devs to put it out and then get it. Don't jump on the newest thing because there's bugs to be worked out.
NOTED: This is my opinion. And hopefully is just taken as such.
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I am with you 100%. If I post his leak here he will report me to a moderator like he did to synack when he release EG2... If I don't hear from p3droid in a timely manner I will release. Thanks
dragonstalker said:
Sorry but i have to say from a low level dev point of view, charging for leaks is crap. That being said. If you release a custom leak, just release it. Android is open source and charging because you got the leak before somebody else is garbage. As far as the big time devs on the charge. I support the work they do and know the time it takes to put into building a rom. I've killed a Sony Vaio FX11 compiling a 2.3.4 rom and it is a long tedious task. . Wait for one of the devs to put it out and then get it. Don't jump on the newest thing because there's bugs to be worked out.
NOTED: This is my opinion. And hopefully is just taken as such.
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Point taken, but I think I have a flashing addiction problem! Since I already have the TBH application, I went ahead and flashed it without CWM recovery to check it out. I will probably revert back to stock tonight since I need a stable phone for work in the morning.
danalo1979 said:
I am with you 100%. If I post his leak here he will report me to a moderator like he did to synack when he release EG2... If I don't hear from p3droid in a timely manner I will release. Thanks
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Amen to that man. He had his people come screw up my thread and have a moderator lock the thread. It was crap.

Just wondering how many people still use froyo roms

So with all the GB roms out there how many of you are still using froyo roms?
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I like froyo. Stable and less buggy
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Still running a Froyo ROM here. Less bugs and just more stable over all. Will switch once the official update is pushed out.
I'm running stock so it goes without saying that I'm on Froyo. I do want to root to a GB rom but there is just so many that I dont even know where to start. Also I'm a complete noob when it comes to rooting phones. Can someone teach how to and tell me the best options out there as far as GB.
Here's another still on Froyo, and I probably will be until they devs have official GB Sense to base off of. I hated going back, but it is so much smoother.
Only thing I like as much as froyo is cm7
I don't like anything else gb based.
I'm running unrooted stock.
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Group. Stable, less bogs, and I've found battery life is Cr superior, especially on a stock Rom like plain Jane.
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still on froyo! bettter battery life and stable ... BAMF 1.8 remix baby!
All the GB releases are based on an Alpha leak which means it barely works
Now the fact is what ever version of GB you use is because of the expert devs who took on the task of making it work.
and for the most part it works well i would say 90 to 95 percent fully functional.
Noe consider this is a small group of developers geting GB work --why do we not have an OEM release considering HTC and Verizon have possibly hundreds of programmers with budgets to develop software..
Looking from a sales point of view if the TB works and is selling as good as reported why wold they invest any money developing a new OS ???
Froyo is stable since 1.66 now 1.7
I have a sneeking suspicion that the only way wee going to get GB is through the great work oF the Devs.
lets give them a lot of credit....
ghamden said:
All the GB releases are based on an Alpha leak which means it barely works
Now the fact is what ever version of GB you use is because of the expert devs who took on the task of making it work.
and for the most part it works well i would say 90 to 95 percent fully functional.
Noe consider this is a small group of developers geting GB work --why do we not have an OEM release considering HTC and Verizon have possibly hundreds of programmers with budgets to develop software..
Looking from a sales point of view if the TB works and is selling as good as reported why wold they invest any money developing a new OS ???
Froyo is stable since 1.66 now 1.7
I have a sneeking suspicion that the only way wee going to get GB is through the great work oF the Devs.
lets give them a lot of credit....
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don't have much faith in verizon, huh???
I think we'll get it eventually.
Apparently kids DINC2's are getting GB here very soon, so besides radio considerations, it shouldn't be too hard. Hardware is pretty much the same.
Ill switch back to gb once the devs get ahold of an official leak. Just too many bugs and stability problems. On bamf 1.8.6 for the time being.
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Bamf 2.1 v5 here...everything works and never rebooted or anything.
People giving the "stable" reason for froyo are just misinformed about gb roms, or at least good ones
I agree. I have no issues with any of the gingerbread roms that are available.
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not me, after going GB you cannot go back to froyo. the only thing i miss is the integrated vvm.
Expectations vary from person to person, and how devices respond to any given software varies as well. What one person refers to as stable, some other might see hiccups that they just can't over look. And one ROM, kernel or radio that works great on one Thunderbolt may not run as good on another. I don't think I'm misinformed because I prefer Froyo ROMS for now, I've tried several GB ROMs including Das BAMF 3.0 and 2.1. For me they do not seem as smooth or polished and believe it or not, I do get a little hiccup here and there. Trust me, I'd rather be on GB, it was hard to go back. But the issues I had with GB were to much to overlook. I'm glad it's running great for y'all, but I'm not misinformed.
Still on froyo, tried gb but I prefer the stability and battery life of froyo.
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Expectations vary from person to person, and how devices respond to any given software varies as well. What one person refers to as stable, some other might see hiccups that they just can't over look. And one ROM, kernel or radio that works great on one Thunderbolt may not run as good on another. I don't think I'm misinformed because I prefer Froyo ROMS for now, I've tried several GB ROMs including Das BAMF 3.0 and 2.1. For me they do not seem as smooth or polished and believe it or not, I do get a little hiccup here and there. Trust me, I'd rather be on GB, it was hard to go back. But the issues I had with GB were to much to overlook. I'm glad it's running great for y'all, but I'm not misinformed.
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Very well put and much agreed
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I was running stock Froyo until today when I rooted to a GB ROM and I'm not going back! (maybe when then official GB comes out )
I'm using the stock froyo rom if only because it's still "just working." I'm not having issues with it, and since the GB leaks are all based on the alpha leak, I'm not ready to jump into using something that is potentially extremely unstable. :\

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