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Hi Has anyone tried hacking or cooking a rom for one of these PDA`s/Sat nav systems, they run windows CE 5,Centrality Atlas III they seem to be getting pretty popular nower days, just wondering how hard it would be to update/change the roms on one of these and whether any one has gone down this route.
My Mother got a Navigo, and I used instructions on http://www.navsoon.org/index.php to get Tomtom running on there. I didnt make any rom changes, but the instructions made it look pretty easy to edit the registry to allow other apps to be installed. I'm not sure about changing the rom though.
Yeah Ive been on those sites, I can get most stuff running on it, but was wondering whether anyone has actually played around with the roms.....I belive the windows CE 5 on this device is a cut down version, just wondering whether anyone has put another type of rom on this device.
Hi people,
I come from the other side of the fence "Palm"
I just upgraded to the X7510, sweet piece of hardware and beautiful 5" display
So i'm very familiar in the Palm Treo world on customizing my own ROMs.
After reading & searching A LOT in here and other PPC forums, i still have a few utilities i can't seem to find.
So i read there is also a BootLoader screen in the PPC world, very typical of the HTC devices, makes custom ROMing very simple.
However, i still haven't come across the name of the applications you guys use to Dump (backup) the current ROM, and the Upload the new ROM into the device.
Or it seems like the only way is via ActiveSync 4.5 ?
Another doubt i have is about the Unlocked part.
My device is straight from HTC unlocked, does it mean it is fully SIM and CID unlocked, or it's only SIM unlocked?
By that i want to figure out if i need to run the CID unlock before doing the Custom ROMs etc.
And last but not least...
I'd like to contribute with the 7510 ROM original dump, seems like the Wiki doesn't have it yet,
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Athena_Upgrades
so i'll probably need the same whatever tool you guys use, as asked in my first question, to backup the old ROM.
which will also help us fill the empty space in the Wiki left for the very same question
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
"How to dump the ROM"
Thanks
Cheers!
well... since i got no response from anybody
Thanks to myself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408519
found the tool i was looking for to build my own rom.
and to top it off i finally found the ROM backup topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
now beats me on the mobile 6 subsection, and something that is totally on another area for another phone... oh well...
Good on you allgamer for taking a lead here. Some of us have been pushing for a separate 7510 forum under the Athena section. Without that we 7510 owners are continuously looking for "needles in haystacks".
cktlcmd and eaglesteve have been burning the 7510 candle for us. With your input we'll get this device on the map yet.
Hey i also just got a x7510, and id love see a x7510 rom!
hell yeah, you can say that again.... it was so hard to find anything, some times stuff like this the Search engine did not pick it up
like the rom dump, on another phone, i understand it is all PPC, but still it might have been different for some models
at least that was true in the Palm world, so i guess in the PPC world we'll have it easy, since it looks like all models dump appears to be the same.
as for the utility, never would have guessed it would have been found mentioned within a thread about something completely different.
anyways, now that i know, i'll be writing more about it, once i start working on it.
robjhellis said:
Without that we 7510 owners are continuously looking for "needles in haystacks".
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Vico100 said:
Hey i also just got a x7510, and id love see a x7510 rom!
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well, i don't mind sharing my custom ROMs, once i start cooking them.
but don't expect too much since, what i usually like to do is simply clean up all the junk that i don't need
then replace them with Freebies, or registered software, which if that is the case, i wont be able to share it here.
x7510 owners - forward march!
Something several of us are keen to see is a work around to make RealVGA work with Spb Mobile Shell. AllGamer, you mentioned in a post under "SPB Mobile Shell incompatible with Real VGA 96 dpi on the X7510" that you got a solution posted elsewhere working. Can you share with us how you did that?
Also, my devise is definately not running as smooth and quick as I would like it (or expect it to given its processor). As a prelude to getting some cooking going (and I'm not a chef) could we start to identify some tweaks that will make the stock ROM more efficient? For example I always ramp up the siz of cache etc. via MemMaid but to be honest I'm never sure whether it does any good or not.
Hi robjhellis,
Are you saying the performance in x7510 is not as smooth as it should be ? Can you please tell during what operations ie. Video etc it becomes sluggish.That would be a good place to start with.
Thanks,
Srini
Just guess, but i think that is the so much talked about behaviour of the video drivers issue on all HTC products
Videos are great no lag (well when i play them in coreplayer full screen, with specs up full). Only one "problem" lol...the audio is exactly -0.512milli seconds behind (when you hear it). So stupid tried all kinds of videos same result lol so thankfully coreplayer has an option were you just put "-0.512" in and ill kinda sync up the audio.. windows media player is pretty much pointless to play video now since you can't put -512 anywhere and the audio lags big time.
the audio in general is really bad, put on real expensive headphones and you can hear ssshhhhh hissss - the background noise.
Note: i was so shocked/surprised that i did a hard reset thinking maybe its something that i might of installed, but nope problem still there
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Hi robjhellis,
Are you saying the performance in x7510 is not as smooth as it should be ? Can you please tell during what operations ie. Video etc it becomes sluggish.That would be a good place to start with.
Thanks,
Srini
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Hi Guys, my issue isn't playing video - I haven't got to that stage yet on my 7510. Rather its just slow moving around menus, reloading after a soft reset, opening programs etc. I can sometimes count up to 3 and even 5 after selecting a tab before the tab appears e.g. Settings-System. I've also now started to see the start icon in the top left corner not redraw after a soft reset. There is much more lag than I see on my TyTN which, of course, is running a custom ROM
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Hi Guys, my issue isn't playing video - I haven't got to that stage yet on my 7510. Rather its just slow moving around menus, reloading after a soft reset, opening programs etc. I can sometimes count up to 3 and even 5 after selecting a tab before the tab appears e.g. Settings-System. I've also now started to see the start icon in the top left corner not redraw after a soft reset. There is much more lag than I see on my TyTN which, of course, is running a custom ROM
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I will suggest to check in the ATHENA WM6 section the thread how to speed sogarth base rom....
Basically install netCF3.5 , FDCsoft Taskmanager 3.1 and start changing how/stopping started services and applications (There are many lauchxx keys in the registry to change to avoid self application startup)
sergiopi said:
I will suggest to check in the ATHENA WM6 section the thread how to speed sogarth base rom....
Basically install netCF3.5 , FDCsoft Taskmanager 3.1 and start changing how/stopping started services and applications (There are many lauchxx keys in the registry to change to avoid self application startup)
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By any chance, do you know how to exlude Biotouch from starting list? It is not started from startup links, or at least not directly. I was browsing the regs also, but could not find anything. I use FTouchSL and UL for cube effect on Today screan, so Biotuch seems to be useless.
Also, do you now what a wt5portm or something like that is for ?
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Only one "problem" lol...the audio is exactly -0.512milli seconds behind (when you hear it). So stupid tried all kinds of videos same result lol so thankfully coreplayer has an option were you just put "-0.512" in and ill kinda sync up the audio..
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Can you be specific where to change this setting on Core Player?
its in advance - > near the bottom "manual A/V offset +/-"
but it still dosn't work...anyone got a solution plz....i don't know what to do the audio is always out of sync for any video..
I've found the same lag on audio and it is SO annoying! Nothing seems to fix it!!
I've created a quick "how-to" on dumping the x7510 ROM, which may be found here: http://htcathena.freeforums.org/dumping-your-x7510-s-rom-t6.html#p7
I will follow up with a "how-to" on re-constructing the ROM (unless somebody else feels inclined to do so instead). [Edit - found this how-to] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066
However, we still need HardSPL or similar. CMONEX told me she and Olipro are working on an unlocker with that functionality, so we'll need to wait a tad! Once we have that we can start cooking some ROM's.
Hi,
I am a proud owner of a t32+ daxian x999+.
I am searching for other users of this phone.
Althought my phone is currently in repair in China , I still think it is wonderful device.
I hope al the users will gather here so we can help eachother.
I would like to know for example if anybody has succeeded in overclocking with omapclock. And if he did at which Mhz?
Also very interested in which software you guys are using. Which software runs very good and which not so well.
I have running SPBmobile Shell 2.0
TCPMP with flv support
Tman 0.9.10
SPB imageer
S2u2 1.05
S2V 0.35
S2P 0.4
PocketCM Imageviewer 0.4 and 0.8
Opera Mobile 8.65
SKtools 4.1.25.3
Esmertec Jbed Java for playing touchscreen games
SPB freecell
SPB Sudoku
SPB Brain Evolution
Still looking for a better luancher than Mobile Shell.
Has anyone used Ifonz yet or throttlelauncher?
Those look very nice too.
Also I am not sure the T32+ is compatible with 8Gb SDHC tf cards.
All your help is welcome.
EJ The Netherlands
Hi
I'm Selling mine, to buy the real one, an iPhone, Diamond or maybe an Omnia I900, but let me tell you, the microSDHC does work fine on this phone, just need to replace the system files with this: SDHC_WM6WM5, look for it on the forum. I tested myself and it really works.
hey mate......
i own a x999+ and was not happy when i got it due to my 4gb sd card not being reckognised so it was like i was punched in the gut feeling, one i contacted their tech support through msn he gave me a driver and have never looked back since.......i love it, so many ppl want one and allllll ask ahh is that the iphone so i tell em noooooo, i wish it was another shape or look....
any way good to see a thread started and hopefully we can start a general session and answer some other peoples question.....
what was wrong with yours sine u have had to send it away.
thanks
alen
Somehow after a few crashes my rom got corrupted, it would not start anymore , not even a hardreset.
I tried to overclock the cpu a few times with no luck.
Maybe that killed the rom.
What software are U running, millencolin?
Greetings from Holland
i also have this phone and one of the program i recoment using is memmaid this program will let u pick what programs u want running i disable my touch flo and the iphone theme that allways start when u reboot and now i have like 20 mb of ram free which make the phone run a lot better i just need to get the key but i dont have money to buy it
Hey you guys . man im loving this phone Im so ready to buy it can anyone tell me a legit place to get it. i dont want an outdated version. also has anyone tried morphgear on it?
maniatico said:
i also have this phone and one of the program i recoment using is memmaid this program will let u pick what programs u want running i disable my touch flo and the iphone theme that allways start when u reboot and now i have like 20 mb of ram free which make the phone run a lot better i just need to get the key but i dont have money to buy it
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HI, I'm a proud owner too, so far no much complains about it, I'm not running any overclocking tool but actually using memmaid I could disable the damn flo cube myself and now the phone is running better, I'm switching between Ifonz and pointUI, but waiting impatiently for the Iswish or the even better and original Omnia touchwiz cab to appear I'm still very much attract by Iphone itself tough..but I must admit that this phone is a real treat, I think we should I found this forum for it as well as this http://www.i-clone.be/ ..keep posting about it so I won't feel alone!!
I bought mine at fastcardtech.com.
It is a Chinese webshop, but untill now they have been thrustworthy.
Took about 3 weeks from payment till delivery of the phone.
Now I must see how their service is gonna be. I have send my broken phone thuesday 2 weeks ago , but they say it has not arrived yet.
I cant track it , tnt said it could take 15 days , so I have to wait a little longer.
I will keep you posted about this and how they will handle my case at fastcardtech.
Is Ifonz running fine on the t32+?
Eric
efjbdejong said:
I bought mine at fastcardtech.com.
It is a Chinese webshop, but untill now they have been thrustworthy.
Took about 3 weeks from payment till delivery of the phone.
Now I must see how their service is gonna be. I have send my broken phone thuesday 2 weeks ago , but they say it has not arrived yet.
I cant track it , tnt said it could take 15 days , so I have to wait a little longer.
I will keep you posted about this and how they will handle my case at fastcardtech.
Is Ifonz running fine on the t32+?
Eric
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what happend to ur phone?
@efjbedjong: Don't think it has anything to do with trying to overclock it, I tried to do that in the beginning (also to no avail) and after a couple of weeks the phone started crashing too... ROM is also corrupt now and have sent it back yesterday.
Am going to get the same phone, but am really not pleased with it anymore...
The cpu is too slow...
My setups were something like this:
* iFonz+s2v+s2u2+s2p+opera 9.5 etc... I thought iFonz ran too slow sometimes (sometimes it really RAN! but mostly it had to load a very long time)
* Image Viewer 0.9: prefer this one over s2v
* Spb Pocket Plus: C-R-A-S-H-E-D a lot!
* SPB Mobile Shell: C-R-A-S-H-E-D a lot!
* iPhone theme with wisbar advance etc...: used too much space on my phone and had too little functionality. Preferred iFonz over this, although this is faster if you compare it.
* Resco Explorer: runs fluently and I really advise this!
* PocketCM Contacts: too slow...
* iContant: runs like a speeding bullet
* Thumbcalendar (old version): too little functionality but looked nice and acceptable speed
* Thumbcalendar (new version): acceptable speed and good functions... Would only like to have it faster. (AND FREE)
* Tom Tom 6: runs very fluently (yet don't have an external receiver, so only used the maps if I needed to know a route.)
* weatherpanel or pocket weather: can't remember which I used at the end, but one of them was super fast and easy to use...
* PCM Keyboard + iphone skin: with some of my own adaptions to the lay out ran very fluently but is annoying when you need to type letters in a message for a recipient and you cant reach the name with your stylus since the keyboard "slides" the screen up
* Resco keyboard: looks nice and easy to use, but had several problems so went back to pcm keyboard. I think this one didn't have problems with the contacts while messaging
* sdhc.777: best sdhc driver, worked immediately, whilst other drivers didn't or lost there "force" after a soft reset...
Hope I've helped
Millencolin do you still have the driver for the sdhc card. I bought a 4gb card and can't get it to work.
Tmo_T32 said:
Millencolin do you still have the driver for the sdhc card. I bought a 4gb card and can't get it to work.
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What did I say in my previous post?
You can't expect people to simply do everything for you...
Just look on google for sdhc.777 you'll have it immediately and it's the best for the x999+/t32+
greets
Daxian t32+
I just ordered mine from factorymobilephones.com
I hope all goes well. I have an Iphone 3G well my Girlfriends now.
I Love Windows mobile. I will admit the iphone was easy to use.
But that's it. so dull. you can install anything. well anything useful.
I noticed the t32+ doesn't have 3g but i will sacrifice that for the
Windows Mobile OS.
Also Anyone ever run emulators on this? Morphgear or a Psx emu?
8GB Support
@Tmo_T32- These are the files I got with my T32 ( 8GB support) in a microSDcard that came with it. (You have to Unrar the file to get the original files, Readme included)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RT1Z6JTL
I have installed it in my T32 before posting here and my T32 is still alive and everything works as usual, that means its safe. I don't know whether it works or not because I don't have a 4GB or 8GB card.
PS. Use at your own risk.
Count me into the T32 users. I don't have Wifi or GPS, though.
Check out this post for my experiences with various programs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2568881&postcount=29
I'm now running DBH Slide2Unlock, SPB Pocket Plus, SPB Weather, SPB Brain Evolution, CE Total Commander, Opera Mini, Live Search, Youtubeplay (VERY slow), Yahoo! Go (slow), SPB Time, and SKTools.
I sometimes have to soft reset because Slide2Unlock sometimes freezes up.
I would just really love to have wifi. I don't need the GPS, really, with Live Search.
I have a 2gb card and really have no need for more memory.
I have to say, my BF has the T-Mobile Wing, and that thing is buggy as hell. So far, I love the phone, I just wish it had a bit more speed and power.
hey guys
to save having to install memaid to stop certain programs starting when you reboot your t32 if you launch
File Explorer-My Device-Windows-StartUp
there you will see some files that automaticly launch when unit reboots i have only left
Acc_Ap (not sure yet what this is)
QuickTaskManager (i belive this it the little task manager that alows you to close programs that a still running- its the drop down menu on the main screen)
USSD (i think this is the driver for the SD not really sure)
any way just rebooted without the touchflow (which i always thought was the driver for the screen and now i dont have it come up every time i slide from bottom up)
so far i have not had many or if any problems besides a rare lock up but a reboot fixes that and most of the time its probbably me pressing buttons 2 qucik than what it can handle
at the moment runnin
(also just hard reset it had alot of **** on it so i started clean)
Pointui Home
TomTom7
iFonz (will not run as frame net or sumthing is not up to date)
oh and SPB Shell ran fine not dramas at all (mind you it was the latest version)
any way any questions just ask......may take time to reply very busy.
Peace out from Australia.
So my phone will be send back from repair tomorrow.
Now I am really scared to install new apps.
Dont want to fry the rom again.
If only the standard Iphone menu was configurable.
I love the s2 products , but not sure I will install these again.
Maybe I just keep it stock for a few weeks.
Anybody any suggestions?
Eric
i c your point but i think it was jut bad luck as its a hardware issue that you rom was corrupter or what ever the fault is, like u said try it for a few weeks and c how u go nut personaly i would not hessitate to install anything on it, just dont try and over clock it, for all you know you might have changed a setting and only took a while for it to fault.
any way hope all goes well.
mc
So when I get it back there is really one thing I want to install.
Ifonz
Anybody can help with what version runs best on the t32+?
Latest is 1.04 but dunno if that runs fine.
Eric
1.04 runs good...
Btw: don't think it is just bad luck, there are several people (incl. me) with the same issues.
I would also recommend not to try to overclock the cpu... As you know this might cause malfunctioning hardware and I assume you did a background check on the OMAP processor before attempting this.
It has a maximum of 200mhz and since they probably didn't use the best connections I wouldn't even think about touching that part!
Also didn't think it is caused by s2p etc... What I did notice is that WAD, WA3, mobile shell etc... (not at the same time) that my x999+ started to fail and crashed. Maybe it was a coincidence and was the process of crashing already in progress, who knows...
greets
When I was looking for useful software for My topaz I found this and I think it looks not bad..
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/html/display_product.jsp?categoryId=&srcPage=home&id=prod5480708&sf=48190044
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGrfQ7IKGBs
Did anybody use it before?
Any ideas?
bero
Please Stop threads like this, what's the relation with Topaz Rom Development ?
isn't that a kind of rom. i thought that.
if not, please admins put it in the right place...
sorry
and thanks...
no one tested it?
i did its not BAd I think, and if you disable Manila then you can save some Program storage..
i like that...
i use that for 8months and i love it
Pisca said:
Please Stop threads like this, what's the relation with Topaz Rom Development ?
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well, there is no relation, thats why this tread isnt posted in the Rom selection, but in de Themes/apps/software selection.
This is a application / software / theme that works on the topaz, so i think its perfectly related!
kaas11 said:
well, there is no relation, thats why this tread isnt posted in the Rom selection, but in de Themes/apps/software selection.
This is a application / software / theme that works on the topaz, so i think its perfectly related!
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The thread was moved ftherom the rom section.
MS 3.5
There's more replies complaining than actually responding to the question. I used mobile shell for about a year when I had an incite. I got quite use to it and thought that when I got my pure it would be the first thing I'd install. Problem was though is that I ended up falling in love with touchflo. Now, after running touchflo 2.5 with max manila, I tried mobile shell 3.5 again for a couple days and ended up uninstalling it. I will say this though, touchflo is a memory hog. With touchflo running, I have about 75MB free but with MS, I have just a bit over 100. Scrolling in MS is super smooth (all of their new apps are). I just couldn't get MS to give me the same look and functionality I have with my current setup. I also have become quite frustrated with SPB's, ummm, lack of support. For sure it's something that is a viable alternative to touchflo and for me at least, much better than titanium. If nothing else, give it a try. It's a 30 day free trial. I personally would recommend backing up b4 installing and then if you decide you don't like it, restore back from backup instead of just uninstalling. Good luck though in whatever you decide.
I've used spb mobile shell from time to time.. and now that I've found a music player that works with my rc e100 headset I think I'll be going back to it now. Love how you can customize it more than you can with TF.
It works like a charm for me, but there are a few things I lack.. ability to add or create your own addons (least I haven't found anything about it, yet).
I use MS for quite some time, before update to WM 6.5 - Sence 2.1.
I think Sbp MS is great, or was great, because now I just love Manila animations, and so I'm stucked on it.
Anyway, I think you should try it. More, there are a lot of "skins" you can apply... look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566045
There's a lot to look for !!! - And I think it worth some time reading.
Sbp with MrSkip Widgets, for example, is a very good combination.
Good luck.
I was a big MS fan back when I had my BA, which it could actually run perfectly, unlike Touchflo. Now I use second today so I can run both, but have almost no free RAM
i just began to test it, and because i to currently not use internet with My D2 i couldn't use the full utilities of tf3d, even tf3d was one of the reasons i bought d2. But now I like MS3.5 More than that because it can be More personalized...
So I will see what I think in some weeks..
Thanks a lot for your helps...
When there are some More opinions please let Me know..
OK.
Don't forget the MrSkip Widgets.
Are great.
PMoto
just bought it for this reason only.
you can get it for half price.
http://www.modaco.com/content/windows-mobile-news/298034/spb-software-50-holiday-discounts/
what are the MrSkip Widgets?
i have MS 3.5 too but how to do that..
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what are the MrSkip Widgets?
i have MS 3.5 too but how to do that..
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Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4635429&postcount=2
thanks for that link..
that really looks very intresting. thanks again..
Do you know how to shut MS down without uninstall it?
so that I can use sense, and when I want it I can use MS?
Thanks...
I have a Sprint TP2 running Winmobile 6.1 and I am considering applying the upgrade to 6.5. I am a fairly new Winmobile user having spent a few years with Palm OS devices having left Winmobile for that. I find Winmobile to be much improved this time around. My TP2 is now running very smoothly since I disabled Push Internet (cab found here...Thank you very much!) Before that I had many freezes and had to hard reset about once a week and apply my backup. (Resco Backup) I also have applied a few other very useful registry hacks that I found here as well that have added to the functionality of my TP2.
I have many 3rd party apps that I love. To name a few of my favorites;
Tom Codon's WiFi Router-So awesome!!!!!!
SK Tools-Indespensible to me for keeping my TP2 running smoothly
Elecont Weather for the Today screen
Elecont Launcher for the Today screen
pmClean
Skype
Skyfire
Qik
I don't use TF3D as I prefer to have the info that I wish to see at a glance on my screen so I use the traditional Today screen and with Elecont Launcher I am able to launch the apps that I use most frequently right from my Today screen. Plus, it's a bit of a memory hog and I prefer my phone to be snappy. I suffer from memory OCD-always looking to see how much memory I am using! Currently I run around 34%-40%.
My questions are;
1) If I upgrade to 6.5 will I still be able to have the traditional Today screen like I have with 6.1?
2) Will I gain an appreciable amount of other benefits to make it worth the work of installing the new rom, reinstalling all of my apps, and setting up all of the other settings the way I like them? (and if so, what are they?)
3) Are there any apps that I listed that you know won't function on 6.5?
Lastly, I just really wish to thank you all for your work! I really love this forum!
Thanks in advance for your input!
Geo
I would love to know too. I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, so the upgrade to Sense 2.5 if of no use to me.
Will 6.5 offer any stability or speed improvements?
Thanks!
Do it!
Just make the "tweaks" you need.
I think one of the only benefits you will gain in 6.5 is some of the features are more touch friendly. Everything you mentioned should work fine in the upgrade also. If you want to improve the touch friendliness you could also install some themes which skin winmo (so you don't have to hard reset, re-install, etc).
If you do decide to go w/ 6.5, customization won't be too difficult if you use programs like resco and XDA UC Customize. IN my experience, the stock 6.1 ROM is about the most stable available once all tweaks are applied.
I upgraded from Verizon 6.1 to Verizon 6.5.
I have regreted it and when I'm in the mood for a hard reset, I will go likely back to 6.1.
I've had a lot of incompatabilities. I prefer using the Today screen, but a number of my prefered apps fail or cause lockup issues that I never had before. So generally, I am stuck with using the Sensui 2.1 interface, which is very limiting IMHO.
Can't say if the Sprint version is as poor.
worwig said:
I upgraded from Verizon 6.1 to Verizon 6.5.
I have regreted it and when I'm in the mood for a hard reset, I will go likely back to 6.1.
I've had a lot of incompatabilities. I prefer using the Today screen, but a number of my prefered apps fail or cause lockup issues that I never had before. So generally, I am stuck with using the Sensui 2.1 interface, which is very limiting IMHO.
Can't say if the Sprint version is as poor.
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in my experience the vzw 6.5 is no good. Try one of the custom 6.5 you will probably have a much better experience.
Wow! Thanks for all of the input!
Well...with much fear and trepidation, I went. I found that I could still use the traditional Today screen and all of the apps that I was using on 6.1. Heck, I was even able to use Elecont Launcher even though it isn't supported for 6.5. Funny thing on the way to all of that though...after playing with the HTC Sense UI I found that I can customize it more than I could TF3D and I'm pretty happy with it over using the traditional Today screen. I will use it until I get bored, then I'll try a custom rom. (Hehe...3 mos?) I need to learn more about those before I take that leap though!
Thank you all so much for weighing in!
gbweller said:
Well...with much fear and trepidation, I went. I found that I could still use the traditional Today screen and all of the apps that I was using on 6.1. Heck, I was even able to use Elecont Launcher even though it isn't supported for 6.5. Funny thing on the way to all of that though...after playing with the HTC Sense UI I found that I can customize it more than I could TF3D and I'm pretty happy with it over using the traditional Today screen. I will use it until I get bored, then I'll try a custom rom. (Hehe...3 mos?) I need to learn more about those before I take that leap though!
Thank you all so much for weighing in!
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Welcome to WinMo 6.5 and Sense. Here are some nice links:
Mods for Sense UI **make sure you download the correct version of Sense Mods, check your version in device info**
Themes and Apps sorted by most viewed (popular)
Also, you might wanna check out SPB Mobile Shell, its a great software that allows you to customize up to 5 screens with widgets, programs and system settings icon. SPB Mobile Shell
Very nice! I can't wait until I can check the Sense mods out! Thank you! I tried SBP Mobile Shell when I had 6.1 and didn't love it. It's a nice program...it just didn't do it for me. Maybe I'll have another look at it though now that I have a little more experience with Winmobile and have switched to 6.5.
For the record...I am not finding a good enough reason to have not made the switch to 6.5 from 6.1 on the Sprint TP2. Still a little buggy here and there but who's to say I didn't do that to myself with some free app that I installed. Hey, that's why I have a backup, right? In fact, I think that if you have any Winmobile and don't have a backup program with a new back up every few days, you might be being foolish. Ultimately, you should make notes attached to each backup to remind yourself at what point your were at in terms of apps and tweaks. Unless of course you are one of these developers and are really smart and can easily get yourself out of a jam without spending hours and hours online searching for solutions and reloading and resetting up you phone...ugh! Anyway...Sprint's 6.5 is prettier and not really worse than 6.1 IMHO. I'd do it again.
A couple of things thing that I am curious about though...After installing 6.5, all of my programs, and getting the settings dialed in, I ran a back up with Resco Backup's latest version. I got dialogue box stating that I had 22 errors (all looked like registry entries) all relating to Twitter. When I performed an "Integrity Check" of the backup, it stated that there are no errors. They don't show up in "Invalid Registry Entries" in SK Tools either. Now I don't care if Titter works or not. I don't use it. It's just strange.
Also, I installed the NoPushInternet and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy cabs expecting a performance change like I saw with NoPushInternet alone with 6.1. After installing NoPush with 6.1 I was at 32% with TF3D disabled following a reset. After some heavy use I would see it bloat to around 48%. The numbers were roughly 10% more respectively with TF3D enabled. With 6.5 I am at 41% coming of a reset with Sense disabled and 50% with it enabled. However, I noticed this morning it bloated up to 86%! I can't remember what I went to do and got a dialogue box stating that I didn't have enough memory to perform the task so I looked to see how much Ram I was using. I wonder if some possible culprits are;
The 5 different cities that I get weather data for all needing to sync @ 15 min intervals?
Location services all together?
Being signed in to Facebook by default?
Animated wallpaper?
All of the above?
I find that simply sliding along the icons and pausing at each in Sense makes the memory usage spike to 58% and settle back at 54%. Navigating to and from Settings, going back an forth to email, taking a few calls, and I am up in the mid 60%'s. Maybe this is to be expected and these numbers are considered good...or maybe I just need a more efficient rom. I guess that in keeping with Microsoft's long standing tradition (pre-Win7), the newer OS is heftier than the last! I just hope this thing can keep up with me! Maybe just some Sense mods will do the trick. If I were to install a new rom, can anyone suggest a high quality one that is a good fit for a Sprint user? I don't want to risk loosing any of my Sprint stuff. Sprint TV, Sprint acct info, etc. I am not sure how all of this works with cooked roms and specific carriers. Sorry to be such a noob. I have also considered overclocking the processor. Not sure how risky that is but I do have Sprint's damage replacement coverage. I haven't found instructions for that yet specific to the Sprint TP2 but I do want to play around with that and see what happens. I realize I have asked a lot of questions here. If anyone can take a stab at all or part I will appreciate it. I notice that some (or all?) developers will take a donation (or tip) for help. I am willing to do so in exchange for good help in getting my Sprint TP2 smokin' fast, (more) app filled, and reliable. I may be suffering from a sickness...I can't seem to leave well enough alone! The amount of donation being relative to the amount of help, of course. I did just make my 20 Euro donation to the main effort. I am glad that I did...I certainly have benefited from visiting this forum more than any other forum.
Also, if I am supposed to post a new thread (or threads!) since I have veered off track here, please let me know. I will cut/paste it in a new one(s). I want to behave myself accordingly.
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I have a Sprint TP2 running Winmobile 6.1 and I am considering applying the upgrade to 6.5. I am a fairly new Winmobile user having spent a few years with Palm OS devices having left Winmobile for that. I find Winmobile to be much improved this time around. My TP2 is now running very smoothly since I disabled Push Internet (cab found here...Thank you very much!) Before that I had many freezes and had to hard reset about once a week and apply my backup. (Resco Backup) I also have applied a few other very useful registry hacks that I found here as well that have added to the functionality of my TP2.
I have many 3rd party apps that I love. To name a few of my favorites;
Tom Codon's WiFi Router-So awesome!!!!!!
SK Tools-Indespensible to me for keeping my TP2 running smoothly
Elecont Weather for the Today screen
Elecont Launcher for the Today screen
pmClean
Skype
Skyfire
Qik
I don't use TF3D as I prefer to have the info that I wish to see at a glance on my screen so I use the traditional Today screen and with Elecont Launcher I am able to launch the apps that I use most frequently right from my Today screen. Plus, it's a bit of a memory hog and I prefer my phone to be snappy. I suffer from memory OCD-always looking to see how much memory I am using! Currently I run around 34%-40%.
My questions are;
1) If I upgrade to 6.5 will I still be able to have the traditional Today screen like I have with 6.1?
2) Will I gain an appreciable amount of other benefits to make it worth the work of installing the new rom, reinstalling all of my apps, and setting up all of the other settings the way I like them? (and if so, what are they?)
3) Are there any apps that I listed that you know won't function on 6.5?
Lastly, I just really wish to thank you all for your work! I really love this forum!
Thanks in advance for your input!
Geo
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I did the 6.5 update to my Sprint Touch Pro 2 and installed the Tom Codon's WiFi Router and it works perfect. I can't speak to the other aps you are using.
Yea I don't like the stock SPB Mobile, I use espresso mod. You can find most of theSPB Mods here.
I noticed a similar "buggy" experience when switching over to vzw's 6.5 ROM. It worked, but it never seemed as smooth as 6.1. Sprint Auto-Clean/Tweak is a CAB that does just about every tweak to improve performance. Maybe this will help with your RAM %s, but they seem very similar to what I experience (Sense UI ~ 50% idle, 60% after a day of usage, specs below in sig). I'm not really sure what is causing your memory spike, maybe try some of these tweaks and see if it still happens.
Backups are important, but more important is making sure you downloaded something that is compatible with your hardware/software and that you read the thread/readme before installing it. If you do those there should be no need for a backup.
As for a custom ROM, I am not aware of any that include those sprint apps. Check out http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98 for some custom ROMs.
About the overclocking, I believe our processor is an overclocked tp processor, so i'm not sure how much more we can get out of it.
Personally i'd say you are capable enough of doing this all yourself, so be confident and take the necessary steps of reading beforehand.
Thank you burtonsnow8. I appreciate your answers and your confidence in me. I'll continue to mine the forums!