I have a Sprint TP2 running Winmobile 6.1 and I am considering applying the upgrade to 6.5. I am a fairly new Winmobile user having spent a few years with Palm OS devices having left Winmobile for that. I find Winmobile to be much improved this time around. My TP2 is now running very smoothly since I disabled Push Internet (cab found here...Thank you very much!) Before that I had many freezes and had to hard reset about once a week and apply my backup. (Resco Backup) I also have applied a few other very useful registry hacks that I found here as well that have added to the functionality of my TP2.
I have many 3rd party apps that I love. To name a few of my favorites;
Tom Codon's WiFi Router-So awesome!!!!!!
SK Tools-Indespensible to me for keeping my TP2 running smoothly
Elecont Weather for the Today screen
Elecont Launcher for the Today screen
pmClean
Skype
Skyfire
Qik
I don't use TF3D as I prefer to have the info that I wish to see at a glance on my screen so I use the traditional Today screen and with Elecont Launcher I am able to launch the apps that I use most frequently right from my Today screen. Plus, it's a bit of a memory hog and I prefer my phone to be snappy. I suffer from memory OCD-always looking to see how much memory I am using! Currently I run around 34%-40%.
My questions are;
1) If I upgrade to 6.5 will I still be able to have the traditional Today screen like I have with 6.1?
2) Will I gain an appreciable amount of other benefits to make it worth the work of installing the new rom, reinstalling all of my apps, and setting up all of the other settings the way I like them? (and if so, what are they?)
3) Are there any apps that I listed that you know won't function on 6.5?
Lastly, I just really wish to thank you all for your work! I really love this forum!
Thanks in advance for your input!
Geo
I would love to know too. I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, so the upgrade to Sense 2.5 if of no use to me.
Will 6.5 offer any stability or speed improvements?
Thanks!
Do it!
Just make the "tweaks" you need.
I think one of the only benefits you will gain in 6.5 is some of the features are more touch friendly. Everything you mentioned should work fine in the upgrade also. If you want to improve the touch friendliness you could also install some themes which skin winmo (so you don't have to hard reset, re-install, etc).
If you do decide to go w/ 6.5, customization won't be too difficult if you use programs like resco and XDA UC Customize. IN my experience, the stock 6.1 ROM is about the most stable available once all tweaks are applied.
I upgraded from Verizon 6.1 to Verizon 6.5.
I have regreted it and when I'm in the mood for a hard reset, I will go likely back to 6.1.
I've had a lot of incompatabilities. I prefer using the Today screen, but a number of my prefered apps fail or cause lockup issues that I never had before. So generally, I am stuck with using the Sensui 2.1 interface, which is very limiting IMHO.
Can't say if the Sprint version is as poor.
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I upgraded from Verizon 6.1 to Verizon 6.5.
I have regreted it and when I'm in the mood for a hard reset, I will go likely back to 6.1.
I've had a lot of incompatabilities. I prefer using the Today screen, but a number of my prefered apps fail or cause lockup issues that I never had before. So generally, I am stuck with using the Sensui 2.1 interface, which is very limiting IMHO.
Can't say if the Sprint version is as poor.
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in my experience the vzw 6.5 is no good. Try one of the custom 6.5 you will probably have a much better experience.
Wow! Thanks for all of the input!
Well...with much fear and trepidation, I went. I found that I could still use the traditional Today screen and all of the apps that I was using on 6.1. Heck, I was even able to use Elecont Launcher even though it isn't supported for 6.5. Funny thing on the way to all of that though...after playing with the HTC Sense UI I found that I can customize it more than I could TF3D and I'm pretty happy with it over using the traditional Today screen. I will use it until I get bored, then I'll try a custom rom. (Hehe...3 mos?) I need to learn more about those before I take that leap though!
Thank you all so much for weighing in!
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Well...with much fear and trepidation, I went. I found that I could still use the traditional Today screen and all of the apps that I was using on 6.1. Heck, I was even able to use Elecont Launcher even though it isn't supported for 6.5. Funny thing on the way to all of that though...after playing with the HTC Sense UI I found that I can customize it more than I could TF3D and I'm pretty happy with it over using the traditional Today screen. I will use it until I get bored, then I'll try a custom rom. (Hehe...3 mos?) I need to learn more about those before I take that leap though!
Thank you all so much for weighing in!
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Welcome to WinMo 6.5 and Sense. Here are some nice links:
Mods for Sense UI **make sure you download the correct version of Sense Mods, check your version in device info**
Themes and Apps sorted by most viewed (popular)
Also, you might wanna check out SPB Mobile Shell, its a great software that allows you to customize up to 5 screens with widgets, programs and system settings icon. SPB Mobile Shell
Very nice! I can't wait until I can check the Sense mods out! Thank you! I tried SBP Mobile Shell when I had 6.1 and didn't love it. It's a nice program...it just didn't do it for me. Maybe I'll have another look at it though now that I have a little more experience with Winmobile and have switched to 6.5.
For the record...I am not finding a good enough reason to have not made the switch to 6.5 from 6.1 on the Sprint TP2. Still a little buggy here and there but who's to say I didn't do that to myself with some free app that I installed. Hey, that's why I have a backup, right? In fact, I think that if you have any Winmobile and don't have a backup program with a new back up every few days, you might be being foolish. Ultimately, you should make notes attached to each backup to remind yourself at what point your were at in terms of apps and tweaks. Unless of course you are one of these developers and are really smart and can easily get yourself out of a jam without spending hours and hours online searching for solutions and reloading and resetting up you phone...ugh! Anyway...Sprint's 6.5 is prettier and not really worse than 6.1 IMHO. I'd do it again.
A couple of things thing that I am curious about though...After installing 6.5, all of my programs, and getting the settings dialed in, I ran a back up with Resco Backup's latest version. I got dialogue box stating that I had 22 errors (all looked like registry entries) all relating to Twitter. When I performed an "Integrity Check" of the backup, it stated that there are no errors. They don't show up in "Invalid Registry Entries" in SK Tools either. Now I don't care if Titter works or not. I don't use it. It's just strange.
Also, I installed the NoPushInternet and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy cabs expecting a performance change like I saw with NoPushInternet alone with 6.1. After installing NoPush with 6.1 I was at 32% with TF3D disabled following a reset. After some heavy use I would see it bloat to around 48%. The numbers were roughly 10% more respectively with TF3D enabled. With 6.5 I am at 41% coming of a reset with Sense disabled and 50% with it enabled. However, I noticed this morning it bloated up to 86%! I can't remember what I went to do and got a dialogue box stating that I didn't have enough memory to perform the task so I looked to see how much Ram I was using. I wonder if some possible culprits are;
The 5 different cities that I get weather data for all needing to sync @ 15 min intervals?
Location services all together?
Being signed in to Facebook by default?
Animated wallpaper?
All of the above?
I find that simply sliding along the icons and pausing at each in Sense makes the memory usage spike to 58% and settle back at 54%. Navigating to and from Settings, going back an forth to email, taking a few calls, and I am up in the mid 60%'s. Maybe this is to be expected and these numbers are considered good...or maybe I just need a more efficient rom. I guess that in keeping with Microsoft's long standing tradition (pre-Win7), the newer OS is heftier than the last! I just hope this thing can keep up with me! Maybe just some Sense mods will do the trick. If I were to install a new rom, can anyone suggest a high quality one that is a good fit for a Sprint user? I don't want to risk loosing any of my Sprint stuff. Sprint TV, Sprint acct info, etc. I am not sure how all of this works with cooked roms and specific carriers. Sorry to be such a noob. I have also considered overclocking the processor. Not sure how risky that is but I do have Sprint's damage replacement coverage. I haven't found instructions for that yet specific to the Sprint TP2 but I do want to play around with that and see what happens. I realize I have asked a lot of questions here. If anyone can take a stab at all or part I will appreciate it. I notice that some (or all?) developers will take a donation (or tip) for help. I am willing to do so in exchange for good help in getting my Sprint TP2 smokin' fast, (more) app filled, and reliable. I may be suffering from a sickness...I can't seem to leave well enough alone! The amount of donation being relative to the amount of help, of course. I did just make my 20 Euro donation to the main effort. I am glad that I did...I certainly have benefited from visiting this forum more than any other forum.
Also, if I am supposed to post a new thread (or threads!) since I have veered off track here, please let me know. I will cut/paste it in a new one(s). I want to behave myself accordingly.
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I have a Sprint TP2 running Winmobile 6.1 and I am considering applying the upgrade to 6.5. I am a fairly new Winmobile user having spent a few years with Palm OS devices having left Winmobile for that. I find Winmobile to be much improved this time around. My TP2 is now running very smoothly since I disabled Push Internet (cab found here...Thank you very much!) Before that I had many freezes and had to hard reset about once a week and apply my backup. (Resco Backup) I also have applied a few other very useful registry hacks that I found here as well that have added to the functionality of my TP2.
I have many 3rd party apps that I love. To name a few of my favorites;
Tom Codon's WiFi Router-So awesome!!!!!!
SK Tools-Indespensible to me for keeping my TP2 running smoothly
Elecont Weather for the Today screen
Elecont Launcher for the Today screen
pmClean
Skype
Skyfire
Qik
I don't use TF3D as I prefer to have the info that I wish to see at a glance on my screen so I use the traditional Today screen and with Elecont Launcher I am able to launch the apps that I use most frequently right from my Today screen. Plus, it's a bit of a memory hog and I prefer my phone to be snappy. I suffer from memory OCD-always looking to see how much memory I am using! Currently I run around 34%-40%.
My questions are;
1) If I upgrade to 6.5 will I still be able to have the traditional Today screen like I have with 6.1?
2) Will I gain an appreciable amount of other benefits to make it worth the work of installing the new rom, reinstalling all of my apps, and setting up all of the other settings the way I like them? (and if so, what are they?)
3) Are there any apps that I listed that you know won't function on 6.5?
Lastly, I just really wish to thank you all for your work! I really love this forum!
Thanks in advance for your input!
Geo
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I did the 6.5 update to my Sprint Touch Pro 2 and installed the Tom Codon's WiFi Router and it works perfect. I can't speak to the other aps you are using.
Yea I don't like the stock SPB Mobile, I use espresso mod. You can find most of theSPB Mods here.
I noticed a similar "buggy" experience when switching over to vzw's 6.5 ROM. It worked, but it never seemed as smooth as 6.1. Sprint Auto-Clean/Tweak is a CAB that does just about every tweak to improve performance. Maybe this will help with your RAM %s, but they seem very similar to what I experience (Sense UI ~ 50% idle, 60% after a day of usage, specs below in sig). I'm not really sure what is causing your memory spike, maybe try some of these tweaks and see if it still happens.
Backups are important, but more important is making sure you downloaded something that is compatible with your hardware/software and that you read the thread/readme before installing it. If you do those there should be no need for a backup.
As for a custom ROM, I am not aware of any that include those sprint apps. Check out http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98 for some custom ROMs.
About the overclocking, I believe our processor is an overclocked tp processor, so i'm not sure how much more we can get out of it.
Personally i'd say you are capable enough of doing this all yourself, so be confident and take the necessary steps of reading beforehand.
Thank you burtonsnow8. I appreciate your answers and your confidence in me. I'll continue to mine the forums!
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each person has so many expectations ! say them and write which WM6 Rom is better according your needs and expectations .
I personally use NBD 7.2 Vanilla -> fast, clean and no problems whatsoever!
same here, i want one that is fast, clean, and just put the programs you need, currently happy with NBD 7.2
I just installed the "XDA Mobile 6 (XM6)" rom yesterday and am very happy with it. Theres a good selection of extra apps that hardly take up any memory. I havent tried any other roms but this one is very fast , faster than the qtec wm5 rom i had on it before.
I have a T-Mobile MDA Vario (not Vario II)
PDAVIET
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I just installed the "XDA Mobile 6 (XM6)" rom yesterday and am very happy with it. Theres a good selection of extra apps that hardly take up any memory. I havent tried any other roms but this one is very fast , faster than the qtec wm5 rom i had on it before.
I have a T-Mobile MDA Vario (not Vario II)
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Pretty much the same thing here. XM6 is what I'm using and am quite happy with it while I'm doing my research learning how to cook my own.
I'm sitting on Core 2.0n as I am currently out of my home country and have the phone permanently switched off. I am weighing my options for when I return, because I want to reflash to a ROM with Office 2007 (to match the upgrade I just did on my computer). I'm a fan of the Vanilla style ROMs so I can just add the programs I like, so I will probably go with NBD. I'm just sad that my Pocket Sudoku high scores will be reset!
7.3...
Just the right amount of apps , and fast even with HTC home and audio. Bluetooth is greatly improved (not just stereo)
Currently using Pandora V3/V3.1, so far so good
Ti2...believe it or not, Ti2 with all the HTC Touch programs integrated works best with my phone. Fast, no missed calls, and so far no problems...
I'm currently running Pandora 3.2 with Voice Command built in (Yeah, I'm not running my own rom right now... I'm playing the field... ). Very nice rom, as its quick and has newer Arcsoft SMS/MMS... So far its been very stable with no quirks that I've seen, and excellent battery life.
The next release of XM6 will be based on (or very similar to) this rom with some customizations I do...
I am running Ti2.2 right now... but I did play the field as well and tried out TNT and XM6, they just contained too many apps that I wouldn't use, therefore went on building the newer version of my ROM.
NBD 7.2 Base, on a Personal ROM ...
tnt-2.0 makes my g3 on tmo run very quickly and smoothly. after installing all fixes and running the htc_streaming_media cab, orb works perfectly at 160kb (able to run on tmo edge). which is infinitely better than m.youtube since i have access to basically everything on youtube without it telling me that youtube's working on it. if i am able to use wifi, why wouldn't i want to use orb over m.youtube? i guess i do sometimes forget to turn orb on before i leave the house...
i'm thinking of switching to sprint for the "mogul". unless i get an iphone...god that would suck. what are you going to do? i like the speed of sprint but the iphone is sexy. both would be two year commitments, though one would be considerably dearer.
also, i don't know if tnt-2.0 just changed the refresh rate of the button holds but i can scan through menus with the 4-way toggle switch SOOOO fast compared to all of the other roms. try opening up your start menu and just press and hold toggle up or down and the selection thing just flies!
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tnt-2.0 makes my g3 on tmo run very quickly and smoothly. after installing all fixes and running the htc_streaming_media cab, orb works perfectly at 160kb (able to run on tmo edge). which is infinitely better than m.youtube since i have access to basically everything on youtube without it telling me that youtube's working on it. if i am able to use wifi, why wouldn't i want to use orb over m.youtube? i guess i do sometimes forget to turn orb on before i leave the house...
i'm thinking of switching to sprint for the "mogul". unless i get an iphone...god that would suck. what are you going to do? i like the speed of sprint but the iphone is sexy. both would be two year commitments, though one would be considerably dearer.
also, i don't know if tnt-2.0 just changed the refresh rate of the button holds but i can scan through menus with the 4-way toggle switch SOOOO fast compared to all of the other roms. try opening up your start menu and just press and hold toggle up or down and the selection thing just flies!
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can you post the streaming media cab? and also, are you just running orb from internet explorer? or how is it running through HTC streaming media? thanks
-Nstefanelli-
From Faria with regards!
Best ROM yet for our Wizards!!
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can you post the streaming media cab? and also, are you just running orb from internet explorer? or how is it running through HTC streaming media? thanks
-Nstefanelli-
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i found it via google and then modaco. what's funny is that the person who posted it said it was found on this site. i didn't spend a lot of time looking for it on this site, just went to google. works great though. i do use pie for orb and it opens wmplayer and it's great. like carrying around a 600gb video ipod with a lot of the videos the internet has to offer.
when i visit people in va, i roam on suncom/att edge and it works great there too. wifi is perfect.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=256259&pid=827856&st=0&#entry827856
To answer the question...I've tried:
NDB 7.3
Crossbow Reloaded 1.7 (XMA?)
Titanium
and Core2n
I found Crossbow Reloaded to be the best for me. It comes with good apps, looks great, and seems to be without bugs. With the help of people on here, the few problems I did encounter were solved (mostly configuration problems caused by my noobish status) and the remaining problem I think I can live with (excessive battery drain...now I have to charge every day instead of every 2 days)
The other roms had their good and bad points, but in the end they just didn't fit my needs. Doesn't mean they are "bad" - they are just not for me...currently.
i looked at that link again and it says it's for smartphones, but it works for m.youtube on my wizard (among other sites).
I'm using crossbow reloaded 1.7.1. Reason: it's very stable, everything working, bluetooth and wifi work great.
With all WM6.1 ROMs coming out these days, I was wondering what benefits do you guys get from using WM6.1 ?
There are WM6 ROMs based on official WM6 for Wizard. Do not think it is the case for WM6.1 - our Wizard is too old
What I mean is that current WM6 roms have lots of things in terms of improving user experience and they are reliable, stable and fast. What WM6.1 buys you ? Better speed ? More RAM ? Stability ? Features (which ones) ?
E.g. I moved from WM5 to WM6 mostly because of VoIP calling. Currently using Jaguar 4, liked XM6Lite too. With adding SPB Pocket Plus/Diary/Weather I have great UI (even with scrolling).
What would drive me (and YOU) towards WM6.1 ? Any ideas ? Besides the obvious ... to have latest and greatest
in my experience, wm6.1 has been loads faster, as well as having the "threaded" sms view and internet explorer zooming. not too much else new, but like you said "the latest and greatest" is definitely what it is. TNT's official is a nice super-clean rom that works incredibly well. if i were you, i'd back everything up, flash on over, and give it a try. if you dont like it, its real easy to switch back.
No idea where all those WM6.1 roms originated but from a few days experience I can tell you my Wizard is running as fast as it did back at the WM5 days. Maybe even faster... Until a few days ago I used TNT.1933, now it's TNT.19199, both with HTC Home plugin. Reasons why one should absolutely upgrade to WM6.1:
faster, more responsive
much less lag between pressing buttons and actual OS reaction, application load times are noticably shorter, shorter windows boot time
less battery drain
The battery used to drop below 60% within 24 hours. Now, also 24 hours later, it's still at 78%!
improved messaging
combined SMS/MMS folder, threaded view of conversations instead of seperate messages which leads to a shorter message list and easier browsing
latest and greatest
I can recommend WM6.1 to every Wizard owner, no matter if they use WM5 or WM6. WM5 was fast, WM6.0 was a trade-off between speed and features, WM6.1 is simply put best of both worlds.
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No idea where all those WM6.1 roms originated but from a few days experience I can tell you my Wizard is running as fast as it did back at the WM5 days. Maybe even faster... Until a few days ago I used TNT.1933, now it's TNT.19199, both with HTC Home plugin. Reasons why one should absolutely upgrade to WM6.1:
faster, more responsive
much less lag between pressing buttons and actual OS reaction, application load times are noticably shorter, shorter windows boot time
less battery drain
The battery used to drop below 60% within 24 hours. Now, also 24 hours later, it's still at 78%!
improved messaging
combined SMS/MMS folder, threaded view of conversations instead of seperate messages which leads to a shorter message list and easier browsing
latest and greatest
I can recommend WM6.1 to every Wizard owner, no matter if they use WM5 or WM6. WM5 was fast, WM6.0 was a trade off between speed and features, WM6.1 is simply put best of both worlds.
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indeed, agree.
also, menu operations are MUCH faster.
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[*] improved messaging
combined SMS/MMS folder, threaded view of conversations instead of seperate messages which leads to a shorter message list and easier browsing
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Just to touch on this, is this different than shogunmark_wm6_threaded.cab (the one pulled from the Treo, I believe)? Better? Not as good? I installed shogunmark's right off the bat, I didn't even look at (or know there was) the built-in threading. Before I reflash 6.1, can anyone who has used both (or just the TNT one) post some screens? Or thoughts?
Well,
it's obvious that you've never tried my slim edition ROM...just do it!
I'm using the slim edition. Its just about the best thing I've ever tried on my device.
its just amazing, much much faster, amazing on battery and like no issues whatsoever. try the TNT rom, it is by far the best rom ive ever used
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it's obvious that you've never tried my slim edition ROM...just do it!
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I really recommend it That coming from a WM5 cooker that didn't like WM6
I am using Nothin 's Paradox 5.2 Clean Version (WM6).
After loading 600 contacts, a lot of calendar items, PocketBreeze, PhoneAlarm, ILauncher, PocketInformant etc. I have 30,5 MB free RAM.
All the other ROMs PIE in some webpage ( xda-developers) I receive the message something like "Script may slows down your computer", and yes it slows down.
In Nothin' ROM if I push the "back" button PIE goes back , very fast and exactly where it was.
I downloaded 3 different WM6.1, Merlin Slim Edition was the best, but all the screen response, scrolling in PIE was slower then Nothin 's Paradox 5.2 .
In Merlin Merlin Slim Edition with NO loaded contacts etc. I had 31,6 MB free RAM ( in Nothin 's ROM it was about 35 MB).
So am back to Nothin 's Paradox 5.2 Clean Version.
Nothin, you should try your Nothin 's Paradox 5.2, if the WM6.1 is bad.
OK. It was a silly joke, I am waiting for Nothin 's Paradox 6.1
WM 6.1
I agree with the comments I addition TNT rom is superb really fast and loads of stability
Where can i get Nothin 's Paradox 5.2 rom? Cant find it. Is it g4 safe?
I found it. Its super fast rom. And it is g4 safe.
W6.1 is brilliant--- Runs so fast on my wizard no need to overclock !!.
Much better.
I have flashed many roms and I have to say WM6.1 is the best. I dont use ir so Im not bothered by that issue with the tnt rom. Im sure once he is back it will be taken care of anyway. The rom is so much faster than wm6 even without overclocking.
I have been using TNT for a while now but honestly I am loving this newest 6.1 version the most. I have to agree with everything that has been said. It is quick, its battery life seems to be longer than before and I LOVE the threaded sms. My MDA is coming up on a year old and I'm hoping I can get another year out of it... (Except for the buzzing I hear sometimes from how much I have dropped it.) Now the Overclocking comments I have to disagree with. I think it seemed a little laggy at first before I installed battery status and set up the omap. And this may just be my personal experience but it seems my edge is connected more often and that I have a better connection. I havent had the weather tab tell me that it wasnt able to connect once yet.
+1 for wm6.1
i was sick of how slow and unstable my xplore 2 wm6 rom was running after months of use, it was soooo lagged, flashed 6.1 T.N.T professional and now it runs freaking fast! finally, let's hope it doesn't get slower with the time.. for now it's a joy to use
Thats another thing too... After time random glitchy things would happen. For a while my vibration on the phone would just completely not work and I was thinking that my thing just stopped working 100%. I reinstalled and now its working fine again.
wm6.1 is much faster than wm6 but all of them (till now) have battery drain issue in my device (o2 minis), with ANY radio!
What about compatibility? WIll programs like S2U2, Resco Explorer etc work on 6.1? Have you guys tried them on 6.1?
Went back to WM6.0
To me there was no big difference.....some of the 6.0 rom's I think are alot better.....that's just me....
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Hey guys,
I am trying my best not to upgrade to WM6.1 on my SP5..
I love my phone with its factory OS.. Though i am curious to what i am missing out on by staying with WM5.
Can someone give me some advantages of WM6.1 over WM5?
And if i was to upgrade.. Do any of these cooked up versions just install and run without any further tweaking?
Thanks for your input
Hi there,
Please proceed to my blog for step by step instruction
http://karhoe.net/htctornado
Why upgrade to WM6.1?
1) Faster
2) Alot of useless stuff removed
3) Running Net compact framework 2.0/3.5
4) More functions
5) GUI improved
6) Windows Mobile (old one) removed savings extra 4-5MB, so now you can install the latest Windows Live Mobile which has more features as well
7) and many more....
Just go to my blog, follow the steps precisely, and it will work flawlessly.
wow you have me convinced
thanks very much.. especially like the fact you have the same phone as me too!
oh hang on..
the upgrade will work flawlessy? or the OS will?
like Wifi, bluetooth etc all ok?
Everything is perfect, WiFi, BT, etc
But there are some minor bugs, which won't really affect you, you have to check the thread of the cooked ROM.
I suggest this ROM, and the thread is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375670
THREADED MESSAGING ... that's probably my favorite feature on there, something they should've had from the beginning
darthvaderfx said:
THREADED MESSAGING ... that's probably my favorite feature on there, something they should've had from the beginning
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mmmh. That's always the first thing I deactivate after flashing.
I'd upgrade cause it's way faster in accessing applications and loading them, and i like that new sliding homepage
wm6 windows live
Hi
I cannot get any version of wm live to run on your rom Karhoe (wm6.1 platinum). Tried the one on your website too. HELP!
Regards
whats threaded messaging?
Means SMS is like chatting style
well i did the upgrade about a month ago..
i love the sliding panel theme.. though i cant handle the issue with syncing on 2 PCs not working and the issue with dismissing reminders..
I think im going back to the original ROM.
Or would i have more luck with WM6.0?
Karhoe can you recommend a WM6.0 rom and/or a better WM5 ROM than the original i-mate one?
I take it since my phone is now supercid i can just flash away as normal without bothering with formatting the BINFS?
Thanks again for your help.
this one is perfect
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343358
but only 6.0
just try... nothing to lose...
thanx redred will take look
hmm... got the same problem with dismissing reminders not working with that ROM too..
Reminder comes up.. hit dismiss.. reminds again and again until its actually past the time of the appointment..
sigh.. looks like its back to WM5...
strange...
i'm using appointments 3~4 times in week and everything works ok
Sage said:
hmm... got the same problem with dismissing reminders not working with that ROM too..
Reminder comes up.. hit dismiss.. reminds again and again until its actually past the time of the appointment..
sigh.. looks like its back to WM5...
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It looks like you need to purge outlook on your PC mate. You must have multiple entries for same apointment. I've had a similar problem every now and then, where Outlook fails or I did a Sync on another pc, and when back to main PC, it screws up outlook. Have had to go and view all apointments, birthdays, etc and clean it up manually.
Also, review how you have your settings, ie "Show 2 weeks" if more than that and you have lots of apointments, it'll go crazy on u.
I've used Nitros Platinum Rom for ever and it works great. Am using now SGreg's Rose Rom, also working good(but w/o the extras on Nitros).
Good Luck!
how much better than 6.0
I flashed up to 6.0 when I first got my 2125, am running WM6 standard CE OS 5.2.1616 build 18120.0.4.0, radio 4.1.13.28_02.61.01 RIL 2.002.
I am relatively happy with speed, and all the apps I installed, etc. I am thrilled with the stability and versatility (phone is also my mp3 and movie player, camera, video recorder, messaging system, etc.).
I have heard rumors that the 6.1 ROM drains the battery faster. True?
I have heard rumors that some bluetooth stuff is not as stable?
The reasons I might upgrade include the fact that some software I put on the phone did not completely uninstall and the ROM I am running has very many features I do not want or use and they clutter up everything .
What is the consensus? Is it worth flashing up again?
looks like it was the time sync from network causing the issue.. turned it off now they dismiss without issue!
also i kinda like 6.0 more than 6.1 didnt like the threaded msging and the way you compose in 6.1
the only way I see 6.1 draining the battery faster than 6 on my phone is that 6.1's Media Player doesn't turn off the screen light while playing music. Other than that, I haven't noticed a battery drain.
flashing up to 6.1 from 6.0
Thanks. Which 6.1 "clean" distro should I use? I have collected the .CABs and don't mind re-layering all the apps I use. I would also love to be able to completely uninstall Windows Media player since I run CORE (TCPMP).
I have been searching for recommendations on custom roms and since I am new I do not know if they are up to date.
I have heard of manial 2.5 and 2.1; but do not know what they are.
Also I heard there are custom roms of 6.1 and 6.5 but what is the difference?
To install a 6.5 rom do you need the 6.5 stock rom or can you do it from 6.1 stock rom?
I want performance, stability, speed, web browsing, and landscape slide out usable along with so it will work if I turn the phone and all sensors usable.
I am wishing to getting a head start since I am getting my Sprint CDMA TP2 in a few days. Any TP2 users here that think this phone is good and had it for a while?
NRG (aka EnergyRom) is probably the most popular ROM, i've been using it in various iterations since 12/09. It works well though Sprint picture mail can be problematic at times and I've been unable to disable HTC's texting/sms app (It can be ridiculously slow when you have a long conversation). 6.5 is a little more touch friendly than 6.1 but it's not a huge change. I use NRG's rom with sensity and CHT v2.0(cookie home tab which increases home screen flexibility). XDAndroid is also very nice (I'll switch permanently once they get the headphones working)
I have used nrg rom and have currently been using the superrom.
It's bare-bones and very fast. I had to add some of the .cab's that
i wanted but they are really easy to find. Phone has only frozen
on me like once and i have a large amount of text messages stored
on the phone.
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NRG (aka EnergyRom) is probably the most popular ROM, i've been using it in various iterations since 12/09. It works well though Sprint picture mail can be problematic at times and I've been unable to disable HTC's texting/sms app (It can be ridiculously slow when you have a long conversation). 6.5 is a little more touch friendly than 6.1 but it's not a huge change. I use NRG's rom with sensity and CHT v2.0(cookie home tab which increases home screen flexibility). XDAndroid is also very nice (I'll switch permanently once they get the headphones working)
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Like i freezes on texts, will if freeze if I write emails on the web? Like on a forum post I may want to reply using my phone, but my reply will be long; will it freeze that way?
gera229 said:
I have been searching for recommendations on custom roms and since I am new I do not know if they are up to date.
I have heard of manial 2.5 and 2.1; but do not know what they are.
Also I heard there are custom roms of 6.1 and 6.5 but what is the difference?
To install a 6.5 rom do you need the 6.5 stock rom or can you do it from 6.1 stock rom?
I want performance, stability, speed, web browsing, and landscape slide out usable along with so it will work if I turn the phone and all sensors usable.
I am wishing to getting a head start since I am getting my Sprint CDMA TP2 in a few days. Any TP2 users here that think this phone is good and had it for a while?
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I have tried about 15 already and have just decided 'Mighty Rom' will be sticking around. Very fast and stable it seems.
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I have tried about 15 already and have just decided 'Mighty Rom' will be sticking around. Very fast and stable it seems.
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I hope it doesn't have the same flaws as energy rom. I think I will stick with the stock Rom first. Can you list me any internet, text, calling, landscape mode, sensors, physical keyboard etc. any other possible flaws it may have? Is it wm 6.1 or 6.5 layout?
Can you link me to the most up to date mighty rom thread and original maker?
The HTC messaging problem and sprint picture mail problems aren't ROM specific. HTC messaging can take 20+ seconds to load when you've got a ton of messages(it doesn't affect the web browser or email), you can bypass this by clicking all messages before replying to a new text (this opens the default text client rather than the HTC one). There are fixes that are supposed to bypass HTC messaging entirely but they don't seem to work.
The sprint picture mail problem is due to sprint picture mail not really sending pictures but instead links to pictures (you have to install arcsoft messaging and some other files to make it work). Sharky's rom may not have this problem (since it was developed specifically for sprint) but pretty much any other custom rom will.
Sounds like you already got your answer! Try my ROM Check my sig. for my PPC Geeks thread. Seeing as how that site is more geared to CDMA, that's where all my ROM action is.
Are there any other roms that are made for Sprint winmo 6.5?
How much memory RAM does your rom have on boot up sharky?
I just today noticed on stock I am unable to send/ receive text messages but can call and browse the internet. Problem happened after a few installs like flash lite, nfs shift, resco explorer, and maybe sktools cleanup has ran and broke it. So I plan on moving on to a custom rom.
Do any custom roms change radio? Because I HOPE NOT. I don't want an SAR change lol. SAR level change will be bad.
in refferance to sktools clean up.......you have to be carefull what you delete esspecially in the invalid registory entries and values mode......i usualy leave that alone unless i no for sure what i am deleting wont affect the phone.....and also just go to your file explorer/mydocuments/regsrybkp and restore what was deleted....
I couldn't find registry backup anywhere.
got your reply my friend..get back to you in a few hours...
ok...i am no expert...ther are a lot of smart guys in this forum when it comes to ppc's...thumbs up to them...what i no about this is experience because i have deleted 100 things before i learned...i no that if you use the registry cleaner in sktools it will tell you that things are invalid and so on....when they are actually valid....why, i dont no...but first check to see if back up deleted entries is selected to yes.....in your sktools program under tools menu go to settings...then scroll to invalid registry entries and at the bottom of that list you will find that option...the same for invalid registry values...if they both are yes then everything you deleted should be in your files program under 'registrybkp'....mine is under 'mydocuments'/'registrybkp'.....and if the deleted entries are there just tap on each one and they should automatically restore...and last, if for some reason you dont have any backups then a hard reset would be my advice to you.....i hope that helped .....good luck and just keep going by trial and error!
MR.X ROM! is super fast but you cant send picture mails
gera229 said:
I hope it doesn't have the same flaws as energy rom. I think I will stick with the stock Rom first. Can you list me any internet, text, calling, landscape mode, sensors, physical keyboard etc. any other possible flaws it may have? Is it wm 6.1 or 6.5 layout?
Can you link me to the most up to date mighty rom thread and original maker?
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I'm not allowed yet to post outside links, so you'll have to search Howard forums for this:
Touch-Pro2-Tips-Tricks-amp-Registery-Modifications
I have maybe a dumb question. What does a cooked ROM give me, more functionality and features or just cosmetic modifications?
Thanks
All of the above. More stability as well. Phone rarely freezes to the point where it needs a hard reset and also no screen of deaths.
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All of the above. More stability as well. Phone rarely freezes to the point where it needs a hard reset and also no screen of deaths.
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Is there any way I could get manual or at least a list of features for each ROM?
It's either on the rom forum page or you check the rom out yourself. Usually the original poster in the first post will list a list of features and give pictures for their rom. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask and don't forget to thank me if I helped.
I am looking for the best ROM for the touch pro 2 on sprint, running 6.5 windows mobile. I want it to be fast and not hang up all the time which my phone currently does. Which one do you guys recommend for me. I use my phone all day for web and facebook and sms constantly. Any help would be appreciated.
Asking for the best ROM is like asking a group of strangers who the best actor or actress is. It's all based on opinions. It's not hard to flash ROMs. Just flash a few of them and see what you like.
In my experience, 80% of all lagging and freezing on this phone is caused by Sense. When I switched from Sense to Titanium the speed and stability improved beyond my wildest expectations. I also feel that most people don't give Titanium a fair chance, it's a very well designed interface once you become familiar with it.
Merely switching from Sense to Titanium did wonders to me even on the stock Sprint ROM. Last night I flashed Medium Hill's Titanium ROM and it's even better.
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In my experience, 80% of all lagging and freezing on this phone is caused by Sense. When I switched from Sense to Titanium the speed and stability improved beyond my wildest expectations. I also feel that most people don't give Titanium a fair chance, it's a very well designed interface once you become familiar with it.
Merely switching from Sense to Titanium did wonders to me even on the stock Sprint ROM. Last night I flashed Medium Hill's Titanium ROM and it's even better.
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Anyone here could have told you that much. Sense uses anywhere from 40-80+ MB of RAM depending mostly on the tabs you use. Most of our problems with RAM come into play on how to save it without loosing the functionality of Sense. The easiest way is to replace the start menu. The default start menu alone eats up about 20MB or so. The lockscreen takes another 5-10MB. This isn't freed up even after unlocking. There are tons of modifications to try before having to give up Sense. I've tried Titanium, and I like it, but not enough to give up Sense for. There is simply too much to customize and make my own in Sense. It acts almost like its own operating system instead of a skin.
SilenceRom on Sprint is quick and amazing!
forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-tp2-development/119831-superrom_s_15-5-29-10-wm6-5-2-1-w-silence-kit-update-now-available.html
bstanchina said:
I am looking for the best ROM for the touch pro 2 on sprint, running 6.5 windows mobile. I want it to be fast and not hang up all the time which my phone currently does. Which one do you guys recommend for me. I use my phone all day for web and facebook and sms constantly. Any help would be appreciated.
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Maybe you should actually give 6.1 with the Rhodium Manila (Touchflo3d) a chance. It gives you the essentials of Sense without sucking all of your RAM up. You'll sacrifice Weather on your home screen but so what. If you set it up right you won't have any problems with speed.
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Maybe you should actually give 6.1 with the Rhodium Manila (Touchflo3d) a chance. It gives you the essentials of Sense without sucking all of your RAM up. You'll sacrifice Weather on your home screen but so what. If you set it up right you won't have any problems with speed.
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Don't you also give up quicklinks ? I disable weather on Sense but quicklinks is something I use all the time.
Anyway, after much fiddling around and many reflashes I settled on VINdows Neodium 2.10 ROM. The Sense on this rom is very fast, fastest of all I've seen. Also, to my surprise, MMAppLauncher that was causing all sorts of problems on Sprint Stock ROM with and without Sense, works just fine. With MMAL replacing default Start Menu, with Voice Command turned off (never use it), and with several Sense tabs that I don't use turned off, I boot to about 103 MB of RAM. That's with Throttle Lock loaded. It goes down to about 75-85 with use, which is still plenty. If Sense proves stable on this ROM (no sudden SR's or Sense restarts), I may actually get used to running Sense again; if not there's always Titanium.
MR.X ROM! its super fast but you cant send picture mails
For me the best ROM means
1) Barebone OS or minimal add-ons
2) Best stability and battery life
3) Most ROM left
I see people use NRG a lot, but it's got too much fluff for me
well for facebook ive found the best way to get on it on opera mobile 10. all the fb apps for winmo suck. and mess around with either regular fb.com or iphone.fb.com ive heard it makes it faster, but i dont see it.
I like the sharkierom!