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WM6.1 vs WM6. Why make a change ?

With all WM6.1 ROMs coming out these days, I was wondering what benefits do you guys get from using WM6.1 ?
There are WM6 ROMs based on official WM6 for Wizard. Do not think it is the case for WM6.1 - our Wizard is too old
What I mean is that current WM6 roms have lots of things in terms of improving user experience and they are reliable, stable and fast. What WM6.1 buys you ? Better speed ? More RAM ? Stability ? Features (which ones) ?
E.g. I moved from WM5 to WM6 mostly because of VoIP calling. Currently using Jaguar 4, liked XM6Lite too. With adding SPB Pocket Plus/Diary/Weather I have great UI (even with scrolling).
What would drive me (and YOU) towards WM6.1 ? Any ideas ? Besides the obvious ... to have latest and greatest

in my experience, wm6.1 has been loads faster, as well as having the "threaded" sms view and internet explorer zooming. not too much else new, but like you said "the latest and greatest" is definitely what it is. TNT's official is a nice super-clean rom that works incredibly well. if i were you, i'd back everything up, flash on over, and give it a try. if you dont like it, its real easy to switch back.

No idea where all those WM6.1 roms originated but from a few days experience I can tell you my Wizard is running as fast as it did back at the WM5 days. Maybe even faster... Until a few days ago I used TNT.1933, now it's TNT.19199, both with HTC Home plugin. Reasons why one should absolutely upgrade to WM6.1:
faster, more responsive
much less lag between pressing buttons and actual OS reaction, application load times are noticably shorter, shorter windows boot time
less battery drain
The battery used to drop below 60% within 24 hours. Now, also 24 hours later, it's still at 78%!
improved messaging
combined SMS/MMS folder, threaded view of conversations instead of seperate messages which leads to a shorter message list and easier browsing
latest and greatest
I can recommend WM6.1 to every Wizard owner, no matter if they use WM5 or WM6. WM5 was fast, WM6.0 was a trade-off between speed and features, WM6.1 is simply put best of both worlds.

AgentSmith said:
No idea where all those WM6.1 roms originated but from a few days experience I can tell you my Wizard is running as fast as it did back at the WM5 days. Maybe even faster... Until a few days ago I used TNT.1933, now it's TNT.19199, both with HTC Home plugin. Reasons why one should absolutely upgrade to WM6.1:
faster, more responsive
much less lag between pressing buttons and actual OS reaction, application load times are noticably shorter, shorter windows boot time
less battery drain
The battery used to drop below 60% within 24 hours. Now, also 24 hours later, it's still at 78%!
improved messaging
combined SMS/MMS folder, threaded view of conversations instead of seperate messages which leads to a shorter message list and easier browsing
latest and greatest
I can recommend WM6.1 to every Wizard owner, no matter if they use WM5 or WM6. WM5 was fast, WM6.0 was a trade off between speed and features, WM6.1 is simply put best of both worlds.
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indeed, agree.
also, menu operations are MUCH faster.

AgentSmith said:
[*] improved messaging
combined SMS/MMS folder, threaded view of conversations instead of seperate messages which leads to a shorter message list and easier browsing
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Just to touch on this, is this different than shogunmark_wm6_threaded.cab (the one pulled from the Treo, I believe)? Better? Not as good? I installed shogunmark's right off the bat, I didn't even look at (or know there was) the built-in threading. Before I reflash 6.1, can anyone who has used both (or just the TNT one) post some screens? Or thoughts?

Well,
it's obvious that you've never tried my slim edition ROM...just do it!

I'm using the slim edition. Its just about the best thing I've ever tried on my device.

its just amazing, much much faster, amazing on battery and like no issues whatsoever. try the TNT rom, it is by far the best rom ive ever used

Merlin_reloaded said:
it's obvious that you've never tried my slim edition ROM...just do it!
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I really recommend it That coming from a WM5 cooker that didn't like WM6

I am using Nothin 's Paradox 5.2 Clean Version (WM6).
After loading 600 contacts, a lot of calendar items, PocketBreeze, PhoneAlarm, ILauncher, PocketInformant etc. I have 30,5 MB free RAM.
All the other ROMs PIE in some webpage ( xda-developers) I receive the message something like "Script may slows down your computer", and yes it slows down.
In Nothin' ROM if I push the "back" button PIE goes back , very fast and exactly where it was.
I downloaded 3 different WM6.1, Merlin Slim Edition was the best, but all the screen response, scrolling in PIE was slower then Nothin 's Paradox 5.2 .
In Merlin Merlin Slim Edition with NO loaded contacts etc. I had 31,6 MB free RAM ( in Nothin 's ROM it was about 35 MB).
So am back to Nothin 's Paradox 5.2 Clean Version.
Nothin, you should try your Nothin 's Paradox 5.2, if the WM6.1 is bad.
OK. It was a silly joke, I am waiting for Nothin 's Paradox 6.1

WM 6.1
I agree with the comments I addition TNT rom is superb really fast and loads of stability

Where can i get Nothin 's Paradox 5.2 rom? Cant find it. Is it g4 safe?
I found it. Its super fast rom. And it is g4 safe.

W6.1 is brilliant--- Runs so fast on my wizard no need to overclock !!.
Much better.

I have flashed many roms and I have to say WM6.1 is the best. I dont use ir so Im not bothered by that issue with the tnt rom. Im sure once he is back it will be taken care of anyway. The rom is so much faster than wm6 even without overclocking.

I have been using TNT for a while now but honestly I am loving this newest 6.1 version the most. I have to agree with everything that has been said. It is quick, its battery life seems to be longer than before and I LOVE the threaded sms. My MDA is coming up on a year old and I'm hoping I can get another year out of it... (Except for the buzzing I hear sometimes from how much I have dropped it.) Now the Overclocking comments I have to disagree with. I think it seemed a little laggy at first before I installed battery status and set up the omap. And this may just be my personal experience but it seems my edge is connected more often and that I have a better connection. I havent had the weather tab tell me that it wasnt able to connect once yet.

+1 for wm6.1
i was sick of how slow and unstable my xplore 2 wm6 rom was running after months of use, it was soooo lagged, flashed 6.1 T.N.T professional and now it runs freaking fast! finally, let's hope it doesn't get slower with the time.. for now it's a joy to use

Thats another thing too... After time random glitchy things would happen. For a while my vibration on the phone would just completely not work and I was thinking that my thing just stopped working 100%. I reinstalled and now its working fine again.

wm6.1 is much faster than wm6 but all of them (till now) have battery drain issue in my device (o2 minis), with ANY radio!

What about compatibility? WIll programs like S2U2, Resco Explorer etc work on 6.1? Have you guys tried them on 6.1?

Went back to WM6.0
To me there was no big difference.....some of the 6.0 rom's I think are alot better.....that's just me....
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Cooked Roms & New Radios in Real Life

I see cooked ROMs and new dumped radios popping up almost everyday.
Here's my question for the members who flash them often:
If I need the...
Phone function to work flawlessly - No dial pad delay
Quick to launch contacts and quick to browse
Slide Open times low
Touchpal working
Auto correct works with no delay
Working MSN messenger
Reliable GPS signal with quick lock
Bluetooth working good when using a headset - not worried about playing music
IMAP & Exchange 2003/2007 working 100%
No freezing of any sort
Activesync working properly
Which Rom and Radio should I go with?

wow! are u serious?

bapssystupr3m3 said:
wow! are u serious?
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Which part is looking funny to you?

I personally can't get away from the 1.62 ATT Rom. Cooked of course...
I tried using WM6.1 version and there are way to many problems with it as of now. Don't get me wrong.. the chef's that cook up the WM6.1 have my greatest appreciation and envy, but unfortunately there is a few bugs in every version and if you try to manipulate it in anyway something else goes wrong.
Alex's ROMS are very stable and a wide variety of them depending on what you want.

This looks like another "what's the best rom" thread except it's worded really carefully and in detail. Anyways, here's my shameless plug. Use my current 3.02 rom with 1.58.26.20. Everything works great.
As far as the no dialpad delay request, not sure if this is possible. Even stripped down my dialpad is slow.

So which of your requirements does the standard OEM rom not provide to you?
It's always been my experience that each rom has a slightly different feel and a few little quirks here and there.
From what you asked my honest opinion would be any of the clean or light roms since speed seems to be a common theme. Beyond that it's up to your personal preference what the rom has that you like.

ryncppr said:
I personally can't get away from the 1.62 ATT Rom. Cooked of course...
I tried using WM6.1 version and there are way to many problems with it as of now. Don't get me wrong.. the chef's that cook up the WM6.1 have my greatest appreciation and envy, but unfortunately there is a few bugs in every version and if you try to manipulate it in anyway something else goes wrong.
Alex's ROMS are very stable and a wide variety of them depending on what you want.
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Thanks for the reply.
I do understand that cooking ain't easy and much respect to all that do.
About Alex's ROMS... any radio that you would recommend.

schulzj said:
So which of your requirements does the standard OEM rom not provide to you?
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* Phone function to work flawlessly - No dial pad delay - no good ( 2 / 10 times when switching from 3G to edge voice calls drop)
* Quick to launch contacts and quick to browse - ok
* Slide Open times low - no good
* Touchpal working - ok
* Auto correct works with no delay - no good
* Working MSN messenger - ok
* Reliable GPS signal with quick lock - ok
* Bluetooth working good when using a headset - not worried about playing music - ok
* IMAP & Exchange 2003/2007 working 100% - ok
* No freezing of any sort - ok
* Activesync working properly - ok

ROMs and radios are quite tricky. If you read around, some people say radio "x" works well in one location, city, or country, but someone else says it has bad reception or slow GPS in their location. As for ROMs, what one might think is fast might be slow for you. Some ROMs cannot use radio "x", so if you choose a radio, it might not work on your favourite ROM. Battery drain is another issue. The list goes on...
My thoughts on your question? Find a ROM you are happy with and stay with it. Then try the wiki to find your perfect radio and test it. This will take a lot of time, flashing and reflashing. You might want to look into getting a lite ROM as they tend to be faster. For me, I like a ROM that is packed as full as it can go

If you want everything working and want WM6.1 my suggestion is sticking with a rom based on the 3.02 rom with 19170 OS. Going off of that I have had random freezes using IM+ with several different radios, but never with 1.58.26.20 which is the radio 3.02 was packaged with. If you want fast rotation when sliding you need to have fewer items on your today screen. GPS lock IMHO depends a lot on your location and what's around you. The initial GPS lock after flashing is always slower then each successive one.
With all this being said, I've tried several different roms and I like mine the best. A close second is Schap's rom (4.40 beta with 19716 OS), but it had too many things I didn't use on it. Finally Dangerously makes a good point about your location being a factor when choosing a radio. Luckily for you I saw your profile and I too live in Los Angeles (Downtown) and I have no issues with the 1.58.26.20 radio paired with the 3.02 rom.

Using Alex's ROM's I would use the radio 1.27.14.09 very stable and great connection....

akadonny said:
If you want everything working and want WM6.1 my suggestion is sticking with a rom based on the 3.02 rom with 19170 OS. Going off of that I have had random freezes using IM+ with several different radios, but never with 1.58.26.20 which is the radio 3.02 was packaged with. If you want fast rotation when sliding you need to have fewer items on your today screen. GPS lock IMHO depends a lot on your location and what's around you. The initial GPS lock after flashing is always slower then each successive one.
With all this being said, I've tried several different roms and I like mine the best. A close second is Schap's rom (3.40 beta with 19716 OS), but it had too many things I didn't use on it. Finally Dangerously makes a good point about your location being a factor when choosing a radio. Luckily for you I saw your profile and I too live in Los Angeles (Downtown) and I have no issues with the 1.58.26.20 radio paired with the 3.02 rom.
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Thanks for the detailed reply I will give the above a try

Hey, I noticed from your sig that you use TomTom 6.032. Do you have issues where Mandy or another voice doesn't finish speaking? For example Mandy will say "In 1 mile" and stop. Then when you're almost at your turn it says something like "turn right". I use 6.020 because of this damn bug and would love to know how you solved it if you did.
Thanks.

akadonny said:
Hey, I noticed from your sig that you use TomTom 6.032. Do you have issues where Mandy or another voice doesn't finish speaking? For example Mandy will say "In 1 mile" and stop. Then when you're almost at your turn it says something like "turn right". I use 6.020 because of this damn bug and would love to know how you solved it if you did.
Thanks.
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I wish I could tell you how but I have never encountered that issue with my TT. The only bug in mine is sound being disabled at start up. I live by TT almost everyday and yet to encounter the voice issue.

Recommend me a ROM based on my usage?

Hey guys, I have HardSPL installed and am fairly seasoned in the cooked rom kitchen.
I was wondering if anyone could recommend me a good ROM? I know that mostly all of them have something good to offer. I was using NATF's 4.3 and now 4.5 but after lag issues and the like, I've chosen to use a new ROM, the Elite Project RC3.
Lets see how this turns out, as I remember reading somewhere that the EPRC3 ROM was notable for its speed. Speed is very important to me lol. I don't like seeing my texts type themselves in 30 seconds after I did it on the keyboard. And sometimes music just won't play or something and its very annoying, other times wifi doesn't work accordingly, things take long to load up, its rare for me to even browse the Touch Flo 3d, like swipe my finger from "home" to "programs" without some lag...on 4.3 this was not a problem but on NATF 4.5 it is.
I don't use GPS, I don't really use much of anything that sets this phone apart lol.
All I do is:
*Browse the web using Opera/Skyfire
*Youtube
*Text
*Phone calls
*Music player (Don't have an iTouch anymore...)
* Wifi (Don't have a 3g/data plan
* play some of the games and use some onboard memory.
* Take pictures/videos and the like.
I don't really use much of those programs that are their (Save a few) and I would love to have the option to be able to call and text via an internet connection rather than the phone's signal, since my school gets no reception but has wifi all over hte place.
Basically, I want all that I use, or most of it, with fast responsiveness. I disliked all the AT&T crap too and don't want that back...
Right now Elite Project is working pretty good, an upgrade from NATF which was giving me issues. I appreciate all the work put into the ROMS though.
Can you please recommend me a ROM to suit my needs?

Z_Tahir1 said:
Can you please recommend me a ROM to suit my needs?
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Why dont you try this one and see if you like it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488781
other than since this will surely be closed...I would recommend trying them out like you were doing and see, which one you like....I have and they are all so good....

Not to be a pain, but i recommend you try them all and choose for yourself.
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My Fuze arrives in 2 days! What to do in the meantime?

So my new Fuze will get here Wednesday, and I'm trying to figure out the best sequence of activities so I can hit the ground running once I got it. Any suggestions?
P.S. My last phone was a Blue Angel, which I flashed and upgraded until eventually the radio stopepd working... and I lost the phone

burnblue said:
So my new Fuze will get here Wednesday, and I'm trying to figure out the best sequence of activities so I can hit the ground running once I got it. Any suggestions?
P.S. My last phone was a Blue Angel, which I flashed and upgraded until eventually the radio stopepd working... and I lost the phone
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You can start catching up on the ROM/radio threads so you can be familar with the device and its functions etc.. maybe look at screen protectors/cases for your fuze..

Ill tell you right now...
F*** the default ROM, dont even bother.
Once you get your phone flash HardSPL to it.
Make sure you found a ROM you think will be good, I suggest a 6.5 ROM you make, or any of At0mAng's ROMs, they are amazing.
Then make sure all the apps you want on your phone are ready to be installed.
FULLY CHARGE YOUR BATTERY. I cannot stress that enough.
Get a radio to flash to your phone.

LoL
Scratch ur hair lol

Well if you're intent on keeping it then I'd definitely get a nice case for it...I'm actually looking at a few right now The stock ROM isn't really bad with calls/call quality or anything else.
The only real problem I have with the stock ROM/Radio is that it is TERRIBLE with GPS. From a cold start you can expect about a 10 minute lock time with speed/position lag once you do get a lock and begin using it. So do some research on a radio that would best suite this...if its even that important to you..it is to me
I've read good and bad things about various radios, some say a particular one works for them, others say that it doesn't. I guess you'll have to flash and see..man that sounds dirty doesn't it... lol

Fap fap fap.
Heres a quick list of what (for me) you will need.
-New ROM At0mAngs stuff is good, Elite RC3 also, ROMeOS aswell.
-New Radio Try 1.12.25.19 or 1.08.25.20M1 You dont need the rilphone.dll but i figured it wouldnt hurt.
-hTorch by DeepThought (Light application, Brilliant.)
-PIMBackup Contacts BackUp Software.
-Advanced Config, Registry Tweaker as well as some other useful things
-Diamond Tweak, same as above but more related to Diamond/Raphael
-Nitrgoen 0.3.2, Music Player, Easy to use and nice on the eye.
I basically learned the ins and outs of my Raphael from www.blownfuze.org (if prompted for username/pass both are 'xda') d0ugie is a saint for doing all this so give him due credit.

surf for porn....
tvos

ditto what was said before.
i have the leaked att test rom upgrade and it works great for me. think about some skins, i'm trying out mobilematt's fuzeberry right now, or take a look at spb mobile shell 3.0. Gorgeous software, only it lagged my physical keyboard on the fuze (as did a program called battery meter - displays ur battery at the top of the screen - be sure not to install this). what else?
hmm i have finger menu installed, finger keyboard v2.1, cleanRAM, gAlarm, pocket Uno, skyfire mobile browser, opera mini, iris browser, spb tv, total commander, touch in call screen tweak or whatever it's called. hopefully you'll find a good set of apps

Should I stay or should I go? (6.1 to 6.5)

I have a Sprint TP2 running Winmobile 6.1 and I am considering applying the upgrade to 6.5. I am a fairly new Winmobile user having spent a few years with Palm OS devices having left Winmobile for that. I find Winmobile to be much improved this time around. My TP2 is now running very smoothly since I disabled Push Internet (cab found here...Thank you very much!) Before that I had many freezes and had to hard reset about once a week and apply my backup. (Resco Backup) I also have applied a few other very useful registry hacks that I found here as well that have added to the functionality of my TP2.
I have many 3rd party apps that I love. To name a few of my favorites;
Tom Codon's WiFi Router-So awesome!!!!!!
SK Tools-Indespensible to me for keeping my TP2 running smoothly
Elecont Weather for the Today screen
Elecont Launcher for the Today screen
pmClean
Skype
Skyfire
Qik
I don't use TF3D as I prefer to have the info that I wish to see at a glance on my screen so I use the traditional Today screen and with Elecont Launcher I am able to launch the apps that I use most frequently right from my Today screen. Plus, it's a bit of a memory hog and I prefer my phone to be snappy. I suffer from memory OCD-always looking to see how much memory I am using! Currently I run around 34%-40%.
My questions are;
1) If I upgrade to 6.5 will I still be able to have the traditional Today screen like I have with 6.1?
2) Will I gain an appreciable amount of other benefits to make it worth the work of installing the new rom, reinstalling all of my apps, and setting up all of the other settings the way I like them? (and if so, what are they?)
3) Are there any apps that I listed that you know won't function on 6.5?
Lastly, I just really wish to thank you all for your work! I really love this forum!
Thanks in advance for your input!
Geo

I would love to know too. I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, so the upgrade to Sense 2.5 if of no use to me.
Will 6.5 offer any stability or speed improvements?
Thanks!

Do it!
Just make the "tweaks" you need.

I think one of the only benefits you will gain in 6.5 is some of the features are more touch friendly. Everything you mentioned should work fine in the upgrade also. If you want to improve the touch friendliness you could also install some themes which skin winmo (so you don't have to hard reset, re-install, etc).
If you do decide to go w/ 6.5, customization won't be too difficult if you use programs like resco and XDA UC Customize. IN my experience, the stock 6.1 ROM is about the most stable available once all tweaks are applied.

I upgraded from Verizon 6.1 to Verizon 6.5.
I have regreted it and when I'm in the mood for a hard reset, I will go likely back to 6.1.
I've had a lot of incompatabilities. I prefer using the Today screen, but a number of my prefered apps fail or cause lockup issues that I never had before. So generally, I am stuck with using the Sensui 2.1 interface, which is very limiting IMHO.
Can't say if the Sprint version is as poor.

worwig said:
I upgraded from Verizon 6.1 to Verizon 6.5.
I have regreted it and when I'm in the mood for a hard reset, I will go likely back to 6.1.
I've had a lot of incompatabilities. I prefer using the Today screen, but a number of my prefered apps fail or cause lockup issues that I never had before. So generally, I am stuck with using the Sensui 2.1 interface, which is very limiting IMHO.
Can't say if the Sprint version is as poor.
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in my experience the vzw 6.5 is no good. Try one of the custom 6.5 you will probably have a much better experience.

Wow! Thanks for all of the input!
Well...with much fear and trepidation, I went. I found that I could still use the traditional Today screen and all of the apps that I was using on 6.1. Heck, I was even able to use Elecont Launcher even though it isn't supported for 6.5. Funny thing on the way to all of that though...after playing with the HTC Sense UI I found that I can customize it more than I could TF3D and I'm pretty happy with it over using the traditional Today screen. I will use it until I get bored, then I'll try a custom rom. (Hehe...3 mos?) I need to learn more about those before I take that leap though!
Thank you all so much for weighing in!

gbweller said:
Well...with much fear and trepidation, I went. I found that I could still use the traditional Today screen and all of the apps that I was using on 6.1. Heck, I was even able to use Elecont Launcher even though it isn't supported for 6.5. Funny thing on the way to all of that though...after playing with the HTC Sense UI I found that I can customize it more than I could TF3D and I'm pretty happy with it over using the traditional Today screen. I will use it until I get bored, then I'll try a custom rom. (Hehe...3 mos?) I need to learn more about those before I take that leap though!
Thank you all so much for weighing in!
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Welcome to WinMo 6.5 and Sense. Here are some nice links:
Mods for Sense UI **make sure you download the correct version of Sense Mods, check your version in device info**
Themes and Apps sorted by most viewed (popular)
Also, you might wanna check out SPB Mobile Shell, its a great software that allows you to customize up to 5 screens with widgets, programs and system settings icon. SPB Mobile Shell

Very nice! I can't wait until I can check the Sense mods out! Thank you! I tried SBP Mobile Shell when I had 6.1 and didn't love it. It's a nice program...it just didn't do it for me. Maybe I'll have another look at it though now that I have a little more experience with Winmobile and have switched to 6.5.
For the record...I am not finding a good enough reason to have not made the switch to 6.5 from 6.1 on the Sprint TP2. Still a little buggy here and there but who's to say I didn't do that to myself with some free app that I installed. Hey, that's why I have a backup, right? In fact, I think that if you have any Winmobile and don't have a backup program with a new back up every few days, you might be being foolish. Ultimately, you should make notes attached to each backup to remind yourself at what point your were at in terms of apps and tweaks. Unless of course you are one of these developers and are really smart and can easily get yourself out of a jam without spending hours and hours online searching for solutions and reloading and resetting up you phone...ugh! Anyway...Sprint's 6.5 is prettier and not really worse than 6.1 IMHO. I'd do it again.
A couple of things thing that I am curious about though...After installing 6.5, all of my programs, and getting the settings dialed in, I ran a back up with Resco Backup's latest version. I got dialogue box stating that I had 22 errors (all looked like registry entries) all relating to Twitter. When I performed an "Integrity Check" of the backup, it stated that there are no errors. They don't show up in "Invalid Registry Entries" in SK Tools either. Now I don't care if Titter works or not. I don't use it. It's just strange.
Also, I installed the NoPushInternet and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy cabs expecting a performance change like I saw with NoPushInternet alone with 6.1. After installing NoPush with 6.1 I was at 32% with TF3D disabled following a reset. After some heavy use I would see it bloat to around 48%. The numbers were roughly 10% more respectively with TF3D enabled. With 6.5 I am at 41% coming of a reset with Sense disabled and 50% with it enabled. However, I noticed this morning it bloated up to 86%! I can't remember what I went to do and got a dialogue box stating that I didn't have enough memory to perform the task so I looked to see how much Ram I was using. I wonder if some possible culprits are;
The 5 different cities that I get weather data for all needing to sync @ 15 min intervals?
Location services all together?
Being signed in to Facebook by default?
Animated wallpaper?
All of the above?
I find that simply sliding along the icons and pausing at each in Sense makes the memory usage spike to 58% and settle back at 54%. Navigating to and from Settings, going back an forth to email, taking a few calls, and I am up in the mid 60%'s. Maybe this is to be expected and these numbers are considered good...or maybe I just need a more efficient rom. I guess that in keeping with Microsoft's long standing tradition (pre-Win7), the newer OS is heftier than the last! I just hope this thing can keep up with me! Maybe just some Sense mods will do the trick. If I were to install a new rom, can anyone suggest a high quality one that is a good fit for a Sprint user? I don't want to risk loosing any of my Sprint stuff. Sprint TV, Sprint acct info, etc. I am not sure how all of this works with cooked roms and specific carriers. Sorry to be such a noob. I have also considered overclocking the processor. Not sure how risky that is but I do have Sprint's damage replacement coverage. I haven't found instructions for that yet specific to the Sprint TP2 but I do want to play around with that and see what happens. I realize I have asked a lot of questions here. If anyone can take a stab at all or part I will appreciate it. I notice that some (or all?) developers will take a donation (or tip) for help. I am willing to do so in exchange for good help in getting my Sprint TP2 smokin' fast, (more) app filled, and reliable. I may be suffering from a sickness...I can't seem to leave well enough alone! The amount of donation being relative to the amount of help, of course. I did just make my 20 Euro donation to the main effort. I am glad that I did...I certainly have benefited from visiting this forum more than any other forum.
Also, if I am supposed to post a new thread (or threads!) since I have veered off track here, please let me know. I will cut/paste it in a new one(s). I want to behave myself accordingly.

gbweller said:
I have a Sprint TP2 running Winmobile 6.1 and I am considering applying the upgrade to 6.5. I am a fairly new Winmobile user having spent a few years with Palm OS devices having left Winmobile for that. I find Winmobile to be much improved this time around. My TP2 is now running very smoothly since I disabled Push Internet (cab found here...Thank you very much!) Before that I had many freezes and had to hard reset about once a week and apply my backup. (Resco Backup) I also have applied a few other very useful registry hacks that I found here as well that have added to the functionality of my TP2.
I have many 3rd party apps that I love. To name a few of my favorites;
Tom Codon's WiFi Router-So awesome!!!!!!
SK Tools-Indespensible to me for keeping my TP2 running smoothly
Elecont Weather for the Today screen
Elecont Launcher for the Today screen
pmClean
Skype
Skyfire
Qik
I don't use TF3D as I prefer to have the info that I wish to see at a glance on my screen so I use the traditional Today screen and with Elecont Launcher I am able to launch the apps that I use most frequently right from my Today screen. Plus, it's a bit of a memory hog and I prefer my phone to be snappy. I suffer from memory OCD-always looking to see how much memory I am using! Currently I run around 34%-40%.
My questions are;
1) If I upgrade to 6.5 will I still be able to have the traditional Today screen like I have with 6.1?
2) Will I gain an appreciable amount of other benefits to make it worth the work of installing the new rom, reinstalling all of my apps, and setting up all of the other settings the way I like them? (and if so, what are they?)
3) Are there any apps that I listed that you know won't function on 6.5?
Lastly, I just really wish to thank you all for your work! I really love this forum!
Thanks in advance for your input!
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I did the 6.5 update to my Sprint Touch Pro 2 and installed the Tom Codon's WiFi Router and it works perfect. I can't speak to the other aps you are using.

Yea I don't like the stock SPB Mobile, I use espresso mod. You can find most of theSPB Mods here.
I noticed a similar "buggy" experience when switching over to vzw's 6.5 ROM. It worked, but it never seemed as smooth as 6.1. Sprint Auto-Clean/Tweak is a CAB that does just about every tweak to improve performance. Maybe this will help with your RAM %s, but they seem very similar to what I experience (Sense UI ~ 50% idle, 60% after a day of usage, specs below in sig). I'm not really sure what is causing your memory spike, maybe try some of these tweaks and see if it still happens.
Backups are important, but more important is making sure you downloaded something that is compatible with your hardware/software and that you read the thread/readme before installing it. If you do those there should be no need for a backup.
As for a custom ROM, I am not aware of any that include those sprint apps. Check out http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98 for some custom ROMs.
About the overclocking, I believe our processor is an overclocked tp processor, so i'm not sure how much more we can get out of it.
Personally i'd say you are capable enough of doing this all yourself, so be confident and take the necessary steps of reading beforehand.

Thank you burtonsnow8. I appreciate your answers and your confidence in me. I'll continue to mine the forums!