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Hi people,
I come from the other side of the fence "Palm"
I just upgraded to the X7510, sweet piece of hardware and beautiful 5" display
So i'm very familiar in the Palm Treo world on customizing my own ROMs.
After reading & searching A LOT in here and other PPC forums, i still have a few utilities i can't seem to find.
So i read there is also a BootLoader screen in the PPC world, very typical of the HTC devices, makes custom ROMing very simple.
However, i still haven't come across the name of the applications you guys use to Dump (backup) the current ROM, and the Upload the new ROM into the device.
Or it seems like the only way is via ActiveSync 4.5 ?
Another doubt i have is about the Unlocked part.
My device is straight from HTC unlocked, does it mean it is fully SIM and CID unlocked, or it's only SIM unlocked?
By that i want to figure out if i need to run the CID unlock before doing the Custom ROMs etc.
And last but not least...
I'd like to contribute with the 7510 ROM original dump, seems like the Wiki doesn't have it yet,
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Athena_Upgrades
so i'll probably need the same whatever tool you guys use, as asked in my first question, to backup the old ROM.
which will also help us fill the empty space in the Wiki left for the very same question
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
"How to dump the ROM"
Thanks
Cheers!
well... since i got no response from anybody
Thanks to myself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408519
found the tool i was looking for to build my own rom.
and to top it off i finally found the ROM backup topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
now beats me on the mobile 6 subsection, and something that is totally on another area for another phone... oh well...
Good on you allgamer for taking a lead here. Some of us have been pushing for a separate 7510 forum under the Athena section. Without that we 7510 owners are continuously looking for "needles in haystacks".
cktlcmd and eaglesteve have been burning the 7510 candle for us. With your input we'll get this device on the map yet.
Hey i also just got a x7510, and id love see a x7510 rom!
hell yeah, you can say that again.... it was so hard to find anything, some times stuff like this the Search engine did not pick it up
like the rom dump, on another phone, i understand it is all PPC, but still it might have been different for some models
at least that was true in the Palm world, so i guess in the PPC world we'll have it easy, since it looks like all models dump appears to be the same.
as for the utility, never would have guessed it would have been found mentioned within a thread about something completely different.
anyways, now that i know, i'll be writing more about it, once i start working on it.
robjhellis said:
Without that we 7510 owners are continuously looking for "needles in haystacks".
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Vico100 said:
Hey i also just got a x7510, and id love see a x7510 rom!
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well, i don't mind sharing my custom ROMs, once i start cooking them.
but don't expect too much since, what i usually like to do is simply clean up all the junk that i don't need
then replace them with Freebies, or registered software, which if that is the case, i wont be able to share it here.
x7510 owners - forward march!
Something several of us are keen to see is a work around to make RealVGA work with Spb Mobile Shell. AllGamer, you mentioned in a post under "SPB Mobile Shell incompatible with Real VGA 96 dpi on the X7510" that you got a solution posted elsewhere working. Can you share with us how you did that?
Also, my devise is definately not running as smooth and quick as I would like it (or expect it to given its processor). As a prelude to getting some cooking going (and I'm not a chef) could we start to identify some tweaks that will make the stock ROM more efficient? For example I always ramp up the siz of cache etc. via MemMaid but to be honest I'm never sure whether it does any good or not.
Hi robjhellis,
Are you saying the performance in x7510 is not as smooth as it should be ? Can you please tell during what operations ie. Video etc it becomes sluggish.That would be a good place to start with.
Thanks,
Srini
Just guess, but i think that is the so much talked about behaviour of the video drivers issue on all HTC products
Videos are great no lag (well when i play them in coreplayer full screen, with specs up full). Only one "problem" lol...the audio is exactly -0.512milli seconds behind (when you hear it). So stupid tried all kinds of videos same result lol so thankfully coreplayer has an option were you just put "-0.512" in and ill kinda sync up the audio.. windows media player is pretty much pointless to play video now since you can't put -512 anywhere and the audio lags big time.
the audio in general is really bad, put on real expensive headphones and you can hear ssshhhhh hissss - the background noise.
Note: i was so shocked/surprised that i did a hard reset thinking maybe its something that i might of installed, but nope problem still there
srigopal said:
Hi robjhellis,
Are you saying the performance in x7510 is not as smooth as it should be ? Can you please tell during what operations ie. Video etc it becomes sluggish.That would be a good place to start with.
Thanks,
Srini
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Hi Guys, my issue isn't playing video - I haven't got to that stage yet on my 7510. Rather its just slow moving around menus, reloading after a soft reset, opening programs etc. I can sometimes count up to 3 and even 5 after selecting a tab before the tab appears e.g. Settings-System. I've also now started to see the start icon in the top left corner not redraw after a soft reset. There is much more lag than I see on my TyTN which, of course, is running a custom ROM
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Hi Guys, my issue isn't playing video - I haven't got to that stage yet on my 7510. Rather its just slow moving around menus, reloading after a soft reset, opening programs etc. I can sometimes count up to 3 and even 5 after selecting a tab before the tab appears e.g. Settings-System. I've also now started to see the start icon in the top left corner not redraw after a soft reset. There is much more lag than I see on my TyTN which, of course, is running a custom ROM
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I will suggest to check in the ATHENA WM6 section the thread how to speed sogarth base rom....
Basically install netCF3.5 , FDCsoft Taskmanager 3.1 and start changing how/stopping started services and applications (There are many lauchxx keys in the registry to change to avoid self application startup)
sergiopi said:
I will suggest to check in the ATHENA WM6 section the thread how to speed sogarth base rom....
Basically install netCF3.5 , FDCsoft Taskmanager 3.1 and start changing how/stopping started services and applications (There are many lauchxx keys in the registry to change to avoid self application startup)
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By any chance, do you know how to exlude Biotouch from starting list? It is not started from startup links, or at least not directly. I was browsing the regs also, but could not find anything. I use FTouchSL and UL for cube effect on Today screan, so Biotuch seems to be useless.
Also, do you now what a wt5portm or something like that is for ?
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Only one "problem" lol...the audio is exactly -0.512milli seconds behind (when you hear it). So stupid tried all kinds of videos same result lol so thankfully coreplayer has an option were you just put "-0.512" in and ill kinda sync up the audio..
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Can you be specific where to change this setting on Core Player?
its in advance - > near the bottom "manual A/V offset +/-"
but it still dosn't work...anyone got a solution plz....i don't know what to do the audio is always out of sync for any video..
I've found the same lag on audio and it is SO annoying! Nothing seems to fix it!!
I've created a quick "how-to" on dumping the x7510 ROM, which may be found here: http://htcathena.freeforums.org/dumping-your-x7510-s-rom-t6.html#p7
I will follow up with a "how-to" on re-constructing the ROM (unless somebody else feels inclined to do so instead). [Edit - found this how-to] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066
However, we still need HardSPL or similar. CMONEX told me she and Olipro are working on an unlocker with that functionality, so we'll need to wait a tad! Once we have that we can start cooking some ROM's.
HI all, Ive just been given an old XDA 2 (II). It seems to work ok.
What is the latest version of Windows that this can run and is there a tutorial on how to install it
Before I invest any time or money could somebody give me a pointer as to if I could run tom tom with this?
If so what do i need?
I have used a nokia 6680 with a bluetooth receiver running tomtom and this worked fine. I am assuming the xda runs a different version.
If anybody could tell me where to start i would be very grateful.
Many Thanks
Richie
Check if you have an XDA II, aka Himalya or XDA IIi ala Alpine
Start - Settings - Device Info - Identity
PH10B - Himalaya
PH10C - Alpine
If it's a Himalaya you can upgrade it to WM6.1 or WM6.5. If an Alpine then you are stuck on WM2003.
As for SatNav TomTom 6.5 does install on a WM6.5 Himalaya, just, but i have been unable to test it due to not having a bluetooth GPS.
Thanks so much for a quick reply
Its PH10B so Himalaya
It seems to be windows 4.20.0 so quite far behind I'm guessing
Excellent
I assume I need to be connected to my PC to upgrade, the cradle/usb lead that came with it is not being recognised in XP on my machine.
Is there some drivers I need to download?
Have you installed Active Sync? Very easy to download from Microsoft.
For an updated ROM check the Himalaya section of this forum, there are many to choose from.
I have a Himalaya but it is purely for test purposes, my primary PPC is a Trinity.
Thanks, Active Sync installd, so simple when you know how.
USB now working
Are the ROMS the operating system(windows 6.5 etc)?
Ive now gone to the Himalaya thread.
I see my questions are already answered there
many Thanks
once you have worked out which device you have and can look in the right section most things have been answered already.
i seem to recall that when i installed TomTom 6.5 on my Himalaya it had to go on first and then i had to remove all the voices bar the one i wanted to ahve any space left for anything else. never actually used it as i don't have a BT GPS receiver.
Before i start to do anything could i just check something.
the three main things i would like to do are:
Upgrade the OS to the latest but more importantly most stable version
unlock the sim from 02 only
and add a decent satnav program.
What would be correct order to do this, obviously satnav last.
But does the os need to be done before the sim unlock?
Thinking back to my early days with the Himalaya, i unlocked it and then upgraded it.
Check out All in one SIM unlock to remove the SIM lock. I had success with the early version an one Himalaya and two work Alpines.
The upgrade will totally wipe the device so anthing that is installed will get deleted.
I tried the sim unlock tool but i get a 'does not know what program to open it' message did i miss something?
I flashed the rom ok to a few different versions, I'm going to try the one in your signature ather 6.1
I also tried lastest version of tomtom but it when it came to install it said not enough room? I tried installing an older version of tomtom and it worked fine.
Any tips on that?
I was using a 2gb card?
Can't remember much about the SIM unlock tool, only thing springing to mind is to check that are trying to run it direct on your PDA?
Only ever tried TomTom v6.5. Think the issue is that by default it installs all the foreign voices into System Storage, which once you get it installed and running you can delete and recover space.
Can't say as i use my Himalaya for much these days as i have Trinity.
After a few days of constant trying you get the hang of it in the end.
Thanks so much for the replys. Ive never used a pda before and to start using one thats 10 years old is a bit stupid. However i now have the latest version of tomtom all up and running in time for my london to turkey drive on monday.
I do have an iphone but not much good when there is no 3g to download the maps
Still didnt get the unlock tool to work but i shall keep trying.
Nothing stupid in using a Himalaya, especially as a satnav, the 3.5" screen is great for that.
It has also given you something to learn the basics on in case you take the jump to a WM phone.
Im running THIS ROM, and it has the version of PIE thats included with wm6.1, despite being a wm6.5 ROM.
Im not in any way complaining about this ROM as it is very fast, stable etc.
But, im just wondering if its possible to upgrade to the newer build of PIE.
I dont know if its PIE6 or whatever, as Ive lost track of which is which.
But i cant seem to find a cab for it anywhere (and yes, I have searched)
Is it possible to extract files from a 6.5 emulator and copy them across to your device to use? If yes, could anyone advise me on which files I would need?
If it isnt as simple as this, then, it sucks. lol
So yeh, if anyone can help me with this, ill be very happy.
Plus, i think many others may want to know about this too.
Thanks
Cris
I'm pretty sure it is possible to install IE Mobile 6 separately, but I'm not sure how. Somebody will probably be along to explain.
That said -- I'm not sure I'd recommend doing so! IE6 is a decent browser, but I'd say that Opera 9.7, Iris, and Skyfire are all better. I actually prefer to DOWNGRADE to the old PIE, because it handles mobile sites better than any of the "full" browsers.
yeh, despite the features available in more recent browsers, I still enjoy the simplicity of IE mobile.
If it's basically running PIE 5, then most likely the chef disabled PIE 6.5 with a regedit. Here's how you 'upgrade' it (whether or not it's an upgrade is debatable, lol):
Go to HKLM\Security\Internet Explorer and change the value of 'MSHTML' from 0 to 1 and soft reset. That should do it, unless the chef actually replaced all the PIE stuff with one from an old build (I kind of doubt it).
well, im gonna try this now
If it works, I will be incredibly happy xD
Well, there was no 'MSHTML' entry where you said it would be
Damn.
It appears he did actually replace it.
Oh well. Cant blame me for trying.
At least i now know what to tell others for this problem
THANK YOU TED
You can always try entering the 'MSHTML' value, setting it as a DWord=1. It's worth a try. Just delete it if it doesn't work.
Sounds like the chef may have removed the BROWSINGIE, widgets, and/or another package or two from the ROM.. you could make some cabs out of those missing packages and install them, that would probably set you up and running But afaik there are no existing cabs for this right now, so you'd have to create them.
From reading a few post after doing a search here on XDA_Devs it seems that unfortunately ie needs to be cooked into the rom, there are no cabs available, and the ones that are... don't work! Sorry!
Farmer Ted said:
You can always try entering the 'MSHTML' value, setting it as a DWord=1. It's worth a try. Just delete it if it doesn't work.
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I did try this
Still no luck.
Thanks for your help anyway ^_________^
Hi Guys,
I am new to this community, I just purchased an AT&T HTC Fuze (my first smartphone) and I would like some assistance in making it nicer than it already is. I have seen the results of flashing the EnergyRom from some of your guy's posts, but I do not want to risk making it a brick without addressing some questions.
Currently the OS on the phone is Windows Mobile 6.1, the Energy ROM is for 6.5, how do I upgrade from wm6.1 to wm6.5 or is there an Energy ROM for wm6.1?
More info on the phone: The bootloader (tri-color) screen shows the following
'Raph110'
SPL-1.95.0000
Micro-Raph (LED) v13
MicroP-Raph (KEY) v55
'Serial' on the white screen.
I read the thread 'Flashing your First GSM Raphael Rom (For Noobs)' http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008, but I am skeptical to doing this now, because I haven't even found the EnergyROM for wm6.1.
Any contribution you can make in helping me set up my phone with the EnergyROM would be greatly appreciated.
Well before you do anything, you have to make sure you flash your device with "Hard SPL." If you read that guide, I'm sure you would've seen something about that.
And you can go to 6.5 from 6.1 without any problems. It doesn't matter what's on your device right now. Once you flash HardSPL you can flash whatever ROM you want.
That is very good information that you have given me.
One more question: How do I install the AddOns?, some that I want are found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751.
Thank you!
when you download those "add-ons" you'll get a .CAB file. Connect your device to your computer using the USB cable and place the .CAB file on the root of your Fuze. If you need clarification on that let me know.
Once you put the .CAB file on your device, using a file explorer program, find the file and click on it and it will install.
1 minor point you appear to not to have got yet (but you will when you start flashing!):
The windows version and the rom are linked. Each rom is built round a windows version & build and then tweaked by the chef. Its not like a pc where you install windows then put stuff on that, the rom is a custom made windows specific for your phone.
Welcome to the fourms & have fun flashing until you get the phone you want!
Root?
Yeah, some clarification on what you mean by 'place the file on root' would be helpful. When I download the AddOns they are .rar files and what I tried doing was just placing it in the Programs folder on the Fuze. It did some installation, but I did not get anything.
Root clarification then I guess?
Thanks for your patience.
Got It.
Okay I got it to work, I installed the AddOns that I wanted. It took a little bit of trial and error, but I got it.
Thanks anyway!
One more thing that I would like to do, but not sure where to get info or if its even possible.
I do not have a data subscription plan with my carrier, is it possible to install mapping information on the phone and have GPS capability without having to have a dataplan?
If this is possible then please let me know how to proceed or where I can get more information...
Thanks in Advance...
P.S. This forum is great.
hey sorry I didn't see your request for clarification, but I'm glad you finally got it working.
But as far as GPS without a data plan... As far as I know the only way to do that is if you use a program like Garmin or TomTom. However, if you choose to do, you'll have to actually purchase the map files for your specific location. The program itself should be available for free though.
GPS is free, the satellites are already up there and your phone has a receiver so thats the easy bit!
As kevindena said, you'll probably need to buy the map software (or maps) to show you what you want.
Google maps is free - but requires a live internet connection (wifi or 3g)
Tomtom is for road navigation - free software but maps are £££
Garmin (i believe) is similar to tomtom, as is Co-pilot
However, depending what it is you actually want the gps to give you...
There is atleast 1 aero-map piece of software out there (i dont know what, i dont fly)
In the UK i'm 95% sure you can buy the OS maps so you can hike/walk/cycle about the countryside.
There is almost certainly a marine map option to allow sailing & boating.
And on here somewhere (cant remember where it was) someone made a simple, fullscreen speedo running from the gps (free).
All the GPS does is tell you where you are, the software then overlays that on the map system of your choice.
ok so iv been using HTC for a few years now and im not new to flashing OS and such using different SW Cabs but i recently got a HP Glisten/Obsidian OS 6.5, well the truth is iv never been a fan of 6.5 thats why i never flashed it on any other phone, anyway im having the hardest time finding any theme to use on my phone so i dont have to use the 6.5 out of the box, iv used spb but i dont have really any options as far as widgets go and i cant even get it to work properly i.e. screen animation or completely uninstall which means im gonna have to hard reset at some point.
my screen res is QVGA but its landscape mode QVGA iv searched the forums and found many themes but im not sure what to use on my phone there is very little on this phone at all even though it is a WM OS there is a lot of cabs that dont work at all for me so i wouldnt know where to start as far a theme due to the way my screen is set up.
so any suggestions out there on what my options might be would be greatly appreciated thanks so much
I have installed SPB Shell, and have no problems at all. Also i have tried teh app called throttlelouncher, more details you can find here:
http://www.wmfreeware.net/2010/03/throttlelauncher-10-final-cool-finger.html
The best i have ever seen and played with, but currenty beta status is Infinity v0.2.8 Alpha (freeware), more details you can find here:
http://forum.ageye.de/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=1369
My last try was a Heineken Skin, very beautyfull but does not exchange the WinMo 6.5 menue....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506518
BR