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3 ROMS TO PICK FROM! 145MB BigStorage!!! Screen Shots!! IE Bug Fixed now!!!

Those of you that know me know I hate BS in my ROM's and with the help of one of the greatest masters of Windows Mobile Tazdio I have made the first HTC Ship clean ROM. Removed is Windows Live apps, SIMmanager, BluetoothSAP, Factory Installed Pictures-Videos, Extra Ringtones...
this rom is fast and clean I will post screen shots of it soon also I made NO registry changes so its just like the HTC ship ROM....
I hope you all enjoy this lots of work went into this project!!!
http://rapidshare.com/files/62180806/CleanHTCship.rar
Only bug is I didn't remove the VoiceSpeed Dail.dll so the icon is still in the settings sorry :/
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Now this is the very light version with NO HTCHome screen and no bugs what so ever just a super fast and stable ROM If the HTCHome screen is not your thing then use this rom! This has standard storage same as shipped ROM
http://rapidshare.com/files/62385138/VeryClean.rar
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BREAKING NEWS!!!
Yes thats right MORE STORAGE BOYS!!!
OK here is is the first BigStorage Version ever made for the Kaiser!! Get it while its hot!! 145.66MB FREE STORAGE!!!!
This is just like the Above roms it includes the HTCHome screen but windows live, Transcriber. SIMmanger, SAPSettings, Ringtones, Pictures and a few other small things removed! This is an Awsome rom and the one I use daily! Also IE scrolling issue has been fixed so no more lock ups!!
http://rapidshare.com/files/63429812/BigStoragePIEFixed.rar

rom still has htc home, soft key applet and other stuff that comes in HTC rom.
A clean rom should not have any extra junk like htc home only essential apps. I hope someone will do a real clean rom, this rom still has adobe, audio maanger, bluetooth explorer and java, world card mobile and streaming media and zip. Not very clean

mcq3000 said:
rom still has htc home, soft key applet and other stuff that comes in HTC rom.
A clean rom should not have any extra junk like htc home only essential apps. I hope someone will do a real clean rom, this rom still has adobe, audio maanger, bluetooth explorer and java, world card mobile and streaming media and zip. Not very clean
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Isnt this the first cooked rom? Maybe we could be a bit less picky and a bit more constructive hmmmm? He does great work on the 8525 or tytn and currently Im using that on my 8525, by far the fastest I have seen. My advice is take what you can get if you dont know how to do it yourself or at least not discourage his work.

well said, austinsync exemplifies the very meaning of contributing member.
-ds

Great news guys !!

Seems cooking finally arrive to Kaiser.... Thanks, mate...

swtaltima said:
Isnt this the first cooked rom? Maybe we could be a bit less picky and a bit more constructive hmmmm? He does great work on the 8525 or tytn and currently Im using that on my 8525, by far the fastest I have seen. My advice is take what you can get if you dont know how to do it yourself or at least not discourage his work.
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Actually it's the second, but still, I don't think it's that mcq3000 doesn't appreciate austinsync's effort. We're all grateful to have the cooks fixing Microsoft's mess. But he does have a point. As far as clean ROMs go, this just isn't one of them. It's not that it's bad, but he just shouldn't be calling it a CLEAN ROM, that's all.

Nice job austinsnyc. A lot of people will enjoy a good streamlined ROM.
Here's my opinion on the "clean ROM" issue a couple people are having. I personally think this is a "clean ROM". I don't believe austinsnyc's intention with this was to create a stripped down base ROM to be used for cooking. I think he put together a nice ROM with all the extra junk taken out that took up space and degraded performance. The items that were left in (and mentioned in the original protest) allow for the same familiar look and feel and to make it possible to use this ROM on a daily basis without the need to install a ton of apps to make it useable.
But, that's just my opinion.

GOOD job ausitnsync!
Please, can you remove the HTC HOME plugin too or make an another version like this but without the HOME plugin.
Taken out Windows Live is without taken Windows Live Messenger out, isn't it? Good job!!!
Smartdialing is handy to call somebody quick, please hold that.
Voicedialing function is also handy, I use it in the car. -> question: you wrote you removed the icon but it's still in Settings.
I haven't the Kaiser yet, but in my Prophet it's in Settings. Is in the Kaiser in Programs an icon too?

I like this cooking
Thanks Austin. I prefer this version of cooking. I think I will keep this. Very responsive..... scrollwheel and button press etc. Thanks for your effort

This looks to be just what I'm after.
However as a newbie, what do I need to do to install this on my Kaiser.
Yes I know there's a load of stickies at the top of this forum, but I'm somewhat lost on which one I actually need.
Thanks.

Speedmaster said:
This looks to be just what I'm after.
However as a newbie, what do I need to do to install this on my Kaiser.
Yes I know there's a load of stickies at the top of this forum, but I'm somewhat lost on which one I actually need.
Thanks.
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There are only 4 stickies at the moment, not too much reading, but you really shouldnt try ROM flashing until you have read and understood them all. The Hermes Wiki has more information regarding upgrading/flashing.
@mcq3000 if you think you can do better, feel free to post your own Lite ROM.
@austinsnyc Congratulaions and thanks for your work, How much memory is free after a reboot?

Thanks Wizzard.
I done many an update on my old Mio A701, but not a Kaiser. That's appeared simple compared with the various thread regarding upgrading the Kaiser (and other HTC based products).
Guess what I mean is, the above ROM is still in essence(spelling) a standard one with stuff removed. Do I still need to treat it as a full blown ROM update. I don't want to download various programs to update the ROM unless I need to?
Thanks
Kevin

Thanks austinsnyc !
Thanks for a nice and fast ROM, your timing is perfect I only got my wizard last tuesday I'm looking forward to new builds and releases
Thanks to all involved in the cooking for getting this to work so fast

To end the debate on this I can call it anything I like since I am the one that made it this was a test to see if we can start cooking rom's with the new tools that where made and I was kind enough to share it with the rest of you.... some of you might know that I don't take requests to take this out or that out. I build roms so that I can use them on a daily basis with out having to install tons of apps, all you have to do is set up your personal settings on your good to go. all this rom is showing is that we are well on are way to rom cooking and that where are headed down the right path.

mcq3000 said:
rom still has htc home, soft key applet and other stuff that comes in HTC rom.
A clean rom should not have any extra junk like htc home only essential apps. I hope someone will do a real clean rom, this rom still has adobe, audio maanger, bluetooth explorer and java, world card mobile and streaming media and zip. Not very clean
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all great apps that I yes I would have to reinstall again if i took them out!

austinsnyc said:
To end the debate on this I can call it anything I like since I am the one that made it this was a test to see if we can start cooking rom's with the new tools that where made and I was kind enough to share it with the rest of you soon of you might know that I don't take requests to take this out or that out I build roms so that I can use them on a daily basis with out having to install tons of apps all you have to do is set up your personal settings on your good to go. all this rom is showing is that we are well on are way to rom cooking and that where are headed down the right path.
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Please can you write a manual how you did this so people can do that at their own.
For example what I do right now at my Qtek S200:
Once I copied al .cab files to a SD Card and keep these cabs on my PC.
When I do a hardreset, at the moment the device want to install the Extended Rom I do a soft reset. Then I've a standard/clear WM system and then I install the Qtek cabs those I want.
Something like this is what I want to do too with the TyTN II. At first the HTC HOME plugin, it's too big, not handy and take too much resources.
Thank you in forward!

austinsnyc said:
To end the debate on this I can call it anything I like since I am the one that made it this was a test to see if we can start cooking rom's with the new tools that where made and I was kind enough to share it with the rest of you soon of you might know that I don't take requests to take this out or that out I build roms so that I can use them on a daily basis with out having to install tons of apps all you have to do is set up your personal settings on your good to go. all this rom is showing is that we are well on are way to rom cooking and that where are headed down the right path.
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Thanks bro, also we are pending.

Black-Rose said:
Please can you write a manual how you did this so people can do that at their own.
For example what I do right now at my Qtek S200:
Once I copied al .cab files to a SD Card and keep these cabs on my PC.
When I do a hardreset, at the moment the device want to install the Extended Rom I do a soft reset. Then I've a standard/clear WM system and then I install the Qtek cabs those I want.
Something like this is what I want to do too with the TyTN II. At first the HTC HOME plugin, it's too big, not handy and take too much resources.
Thank you in forward!
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there is no EXT_Rom in the kaiser it is simply following a config file to install cabs to the windows directory. the tools to cook roms will be released as soon as they are finished they are almost done untill then no I can not release them as I did not make them I simply test for someone

austinsnyc said:
Those of you that know me know I hate BS in Removed is Windows Live apps, SIMmanager, BluetoothSAP, Factory Installed Pictures-Videos, Extra Ringtones...
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Nice work, but isn't the SIM Manager kind of a pretty important app?

Rotohammer's 19214 ROM V4

For those interested in my current ROM, here you go.
Notes:
MD5Sum ff713c7f13afb3db4ce26a51a487940d
Weighs in at 62 meg
No bootloader, boot splash or radio included.
I recommend radio 1.58.25.17
With above radio, first gps fix took 1.5 minutes
Removed all the AT&T junk software & games, jbed, RealPlayer
Removed MS Office apps (I only use/accept ISO Standard docs like PDF)
Enabled HSDPA & Icon , no service icon problems (no X)
Left AT&T service settings
Left in MS Voice Command since its hard to find
Vers 1.6.19214 MSVC works better than 19209 on this rom
No HTC Home, use a cab if you like it so much
Screen doesn't turn off when you wake it up like other ROMs
16meg page pool
Removed Themed dialer skins (I use the non themed dialer)
So far all my apps & SIPS work (iGo8)
Internet works consistent on AT&T, even when set to disconnect after 1min
Bluetooth file xfers work fine, just reboot phone after you pair first
I just realized that "Show SIM Contacts" has stayed disabled, cool!
Graphics benchmark: 1588.25*
Known Issues:
File system cache is disabled by default
Security is not disabled (you get the not certified warning)
Install KaiserTweak or AdvancedConfig to adjust above settings
Its the best** ROM I've used to date.
Use HTC Rom Image Editor to add or remove files to your liking.
4Shared Download
Ps: V1-V3 were failures
* I didn't really benchmark the graphics.
** Best: Meaning everything works decently, not as fast feeling as L26Vx Roms though.
Tip:
Heres a setting that I'm starting to enjoy: I set my data connection timeout to 1 minute using AdvancedConfig (Schaps), then set the "Connection Established" notification to sound a "bink" (Quietest) AND my email is set to retrieve every 15 minutes. That gives me an audible indicator that email is being checked, and to expect a possible voice announcement. Also, when I don't hear the "bink" I know now that I left an app like Opera 9.5 running, which keeps the data connection alive, consuming more power. Its like a heartbeat to let me know that I'm running optimal.

Moved yor post to a new thread. All Cooked Roms should have a thread...

kyphur said:
Moved yor post to a new thread. All Cooked Roms should have a thread...
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I was trying to stay out of the spotlight Thanks, I didn't think it was worth creating a thread and possibly distract from the main cooked rom threads.

rotohammer said:
I was trying to stay out of the spotlight Thanks, I didn't think it was worth creating a thread and possibly distract from the main cooked rom threads.
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Every Cooked Rom deserves it, makes it easier for Flashing Junkies to find & discuss it.

rotohammer said:
I was trying to stay out of the spotlight Thanks, I didn't think it was worth creating a thread and possibly distract from the main cooked rom threads.
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Downloading now. Let you know what I think. I'm a big fan of lite roms.
I dont normally post requesting anything, I just search and find it myself, but.......I cannot find the radio you are using. I've looked everywhere I can think of, and cannot find 1.58.25.27.
Thanks
Tin

tinpusher said:
Downloading now. Let you know what I think. I'm a big fan of lite roms.
I dont normally post requesting anything, I just search and find it myself, but.......I cannot find the radio you are using. I've looked everywhere I can think of, and cannot find 1.58.25.27.
Thanks
Tin
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i have 1.58.25.17 which i think is what roto means??
its i my 4shared account under radios.

thesire said:
its i my 4shared account under radios.
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Thanks, but I've found the NEON radio 1.58.25.17.
But he posted about 1.58.25.27. And I've seen several different posters with 1.58.25.27 in they're sigs, so I figured it couldnt be a typo. Is there a 1.58.25.27?
Tin

Fast ROM! The only "bug" I've encountered, and it's more of a customization thing, is that the security is not disabled (you get the not certified warning), therefore my UC did not run correctly. So now I've installed all my apps, and sync'ed with exchange, and everything is running great.
I dont use HTC Home, but SPB Mobile Shell 2.1 is running as fast as ever.
I'll probably stick with this for awhile.
Thanks for your time!
Tin

tinpusher said:
Thanks, but I've found the NEON radio 1.58.25.17.
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Busted! Yep, I think I copied/created the same typo that everyone else did early on during the frenzied excitement of ATW disclosing that the radio worked. My device information applet clearly says 1.58.25.17.

tinpusher said:
Fast ROM! The only "bug" I've encountered, and it's more of a customization thing, is that the security is not disabled (you get the not certified warning), therefore my UC did not run correctly.
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After running so many cooked ROMs, I was startled by the warnings at first. Then I realized, man, I have to play catchup and create an archive of tweaks to apply to new factory ROMs. So I let it go in hopes I can find a bunch of other useful tweaks, which, if we collect here (before 19215) I'll make a new version of this ROM.
FWIW, I favor lite ROMs for the purpose of debugging. I'll be posting an Add-Ons package with all the apps that I install. If there were more releases done like this, folks would end up with just what they wanted.
The whole HTC Home & IGo8 bug is such a thread waster as every ROM thread deals with the same applications issue over and over. The two apps don't work together, there is no fix, get over it!
I realize some folks like the "batteries included" ROMs as it saves them (theoretically) setup time. I seem to still spend hours getting my phone just right
Where was I going with this rant? I need coffee.

V4
Congratiolations my friend!
Didn't know you where interested in cooking.
Let me know if you need anything!
Regards,
Leo

Laurentius26 said:
Didn't know you where interested in cooking.
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Neither did I! This ROM was born while comparing your V9b1 against the stock 19214 AND while playing with the ROM editor due to my dislike of HTC Home. It just so happened that I created a ROM that I actually liked!
I'm looking forward to running a lite version of your next ROM after the bugs are squashed, as I do enjoy the speed of your ROMS.
Long term I just plan on passing feedback to you and use your ROMs

rotohammer said:
I was trying to stay out of the spotlight Thanks, I didn't think it was worth creating a thread and possibly distract from the main cooked rom threads.
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You're in the SHOW now buddy

Congratulations
Hey Roto,
Been playing with this for about 2 hours now and I am really impressed. It is a clean, fast, stable AT&T based Rom that I can customize to my liking. It is so clean and fast I don't know what to load on it
Edit: This is a keeper

mcfarlan said:
It is so clean and fast I don't know what to load on it
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Thats funny you said that, as I had the same feeling. I ran it for a day before loading a lot of my apps just to see how it worked. Now I'm being picky about what to load

Benchmark
Roto- Thanks for taking the time to cook this rom.
Does iGo work? just kidding!
Don't know how you feel about benchmarks and I do not believe anyone has posted a 19214 bmark other than the vid-only gxmark (1588 anyone?)- Anyone attempt a more comprehensive test like SBP benchmark on this rom yet?

gasman858 said:
1588 anyone?
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Exactly! I've gotten zippo out of comparing the benchmarks. When someone does shoehorn in new graphics drivers, then we'll see the big jump. As far as OS benchmarks, its pretty much bound by the cpu speed and whether theres any other apps running. +/- %5 isn't even discernible. I read once that in order to notice a performance change, the factor has to be equal to/greater than 2x.

I love this. No HTC Home crap. I always disable it to put in WP and cnetx face contacts.
I'd run SPB benchmark, but it apparently requires a windows computer. I'm content in saying it feels frickin snappy.

YO! Did you disable the file system cache? Copying WP themes and icon packs is taking forever.

cbass said:
YO! Did you disable the file system cache? Copying WP themes and icon packs is taking forever.
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The only tweak I made was to enable HSDPA. If file system cache is disabled by default, lets add that to the list of fixes to do. I didn't pay attention as I ran though AdvancedConfig to setup my own defaults.

[ROM][WWE][6.October 2008]gullum Herald2D(5.2.20755) [removed]

CE OS 5.2.20755(build 5.2.20755)
This is a verry loaded rom it has almost everything from OPAL so if you need more space or ram I recomand you to use an other maybe OpenTouch
Manila TouchFlo2D default blue skin
HTC Album video works
Audio Manager
Camera
BT explorer
BT SAP
BT print
Calculator diamond skin wite
File Explorer with added functions
Internet sharing
Jbled Java
Messanger MSN
Notes
OmapClock OverClock ELF(insted of Batterystatus)
PIM Backup
Pocket RAR
Registry Editor
RSS Hub
Streaming Media
TaskeManager
Tasks
Voice Commander
Voice recorder
Windows Live
Windows Media player
HTC YoutubeAdvance network
Opal Keyboards(Full qwerty, Compact qwerty and Phone keypad
Opal Dialer (Phonecanvas)
Opal Random access
Opal Large titlebar
Opal Large Startmenu
Opal VolumControll
Opera Browser with sliding zoom including Falsh 3.1
Opal ArcsoftMMS
there are probable more I forgot
link removed

For bugs and stuff
please don't post before yopu have tried it or someone else has tried
My son has spilled some coffie on my phones and now my herald can no longer synch through usb therefore I need to flash with SD card so this means that I will not make many roms for Herald and only release roms when something big is going to happen... but maybe I can get usb working again as I suspect there is some coffie stain covering some of the pin in the usb.

Special thanks to
Bepe
Noonski
and a whole bunch of othere people

Any stat (such as available memory) and screenshot before we can try?

live4nothing said:
Any stat (such as available memory) and screenshot before we can try?
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I don't have the phone with me so I don't know about memory right now.
And I realy don't think there is any need for screenshots because it looks this one and has almost every thing from it too
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=63828

Nice Work! Thanks!
Didn't find any bugs so far! It's a bit too big for me, so I will perhaps switch back to OpenTouch with a new release...
Thanks for the great work!

it ilooks much better to use Opera Mobile instead of Opera mini,
HTC youTube is nice
but available memory is low!only 16.29 mb fresh booted.
Also Network time and time zone synchronization are not working.
Jbled Java is not function.
Many bugs need to be fixed.
Basically, it is useless ROM

got a problem: When Starting Opera mobile, touchflo is closing, sometimes it starts automatically new and closes Opera and sometimes Opera works and touchflo stays disabled!

cgigate said:
Many bugs need to be fixed.
Basically, it is useless ROM
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what bugs? you only name 2
if it's useless then how can it be that I can use it for all my needs?

cgigate said:
it ilooks much better to use Opera Mobile instead of Opera mini,
HTC youTube is nice
but available memory is low!only 16.29 mb fresh booted.
Also Network time and time zone synchronization are not working.
Jbled Java is not function.
Many bugs need to be fixed.
Basically, it is useless ROM
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I'm not trying to start anything with anybody, but saw this post and have seen it in my threads before.
I know how it feels to spend countless hours cooking and then getting one of theses.
Folks,
This is one of the main reason why I'm retiring after my current release.
Every cook spends a lot of their personal time creating a rom for users to enjoy.
There is no perfect rom, creating or wanting to create a perfect rom is like a pipe dream.
After seven releases I still have not been able to create the perfect rom.
Every rom has issues, but as long as the developer is working on fixing it, we the users should give them some time.
Let them know what's wrong with their rom and let them resolve the issues.
If for some strange reason they are not willing to fix it then making comments of this nature would make sense.
Main point,
Try the roms, post your review, but please try to use words other than worthless.
Thanks,

cgigate said:
it ilooks much better to use Opera Mobile instead of Opera mini,
HTC youTube is nice
but available memory is low!only 16.29 mb fresh booted.
Also Network time and time zone synchronization are not working.
Jbled Java is not function.
Many bugs need to be fixed.
Basically, it is useless ROM
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your a low-life.
go somewhere with your nonsense

ttran001 said:
I'm not trying to start anything with anybody, but saw this post and have seen it in my threads before.
I know how it feels to spend countless hours cooking and then getting one of theses.
Folks,
This is one of the main reason why I'm retiring after my current release.
Every cook spends a lot of their personal time creating a rom for users to enjoy.
There is no perfect rom, creating or wanting to create a perfect rom is like a pipe dream.
After seven releases I still have not been able to create the perfect rom.
Every rom has issues, but as long as the developer is working on fixing it, we the users should give them some time.
Let them know what's wrong with their rom and let them resolve the issues.
If for some strange reason they are not willing to fix it then making comments of this nature would make sense.
Main point,
Try the roms, post your review, but please try to use words other than worthless.
Thanks,
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Agreed with tony. Cooking isn't an easy job and I know this. Just to master the porting and some basic skills, you need quite sometimes. Then every build has their own issues. We should appricate someone cooked a rom for us because it take alot of work and time (for free). As long as he the cook providing support, it's should be ok. Otherwise, don't use the rom.

ttran001 said:
I'm not trying to start anything with anybody, but saw this post and have seen it in my threads before.
I know how it feels to spend countless hours cooking and then getting one of theses.
Folks,
This is one of the main reason why I'm retiring after my current release.
Every cook spends a lot of their personal time creating a rom for users to enjoy.
There is no perfect rom, creating or wanting to create a perfect rom is like a pipe dream.
After seven releases I still have not been able to create the perfect rom.
Every rom has issues, but as long as the developer is working on fixing it, we the users should give them some time.
Let them know what's wrong with their rom and let them resolve the issues.
If for some strange reason they are not willing to fix it then making comments of this nature would make sense.
Main point,
Try the roms, post your review, but please try to use words other than worthless.
Thanks,
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Hi ttran001
Thanks
That was actualy what I tought when reading the post "why botter cooking"
I bought my herald only so I could use it for cooking.. this is my hobby and I cook for 5 other devices too and the main purpose of this rom is to show that all of the apps from Opal can work on other devices.
I don't want to retire from cooking but it might happen if there is no need for my roms.
but I wan't let this coment stop me because I know there are problems and always will be bugs.
even M$ and HTC are to blame for some of the bugs (sometimes all the bugs)

gullum said:
Hi ttran001
Thanks
That was actualy what I tought when reading the post "why botter cooking"
I bought my herald only so I could use it for cooking.. this is my hobby and I cook for 5 other devices too and the main purpose of this rom is to show that all of the apps from Opal can work on other devices.
I don't want to retire from cooking but it might happen if there is no need for my roms.
but I wan't let this coment stop me because I know there are problems and always will be bugs.
even M$ and HTC are to blame for some of the bugs (sometimes all the bugs)
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Any time bro,
We are one big happy family here at xda and should always treat each other rite.

cgigate said:
it ilooks much better to use Opera Mobile instead of Opera mini,
HTC youTube is nice
but available memory is low!only 16.29 mb fresh booted.
Also Network time and time zone synchronization are not working.
Jbled Java is not function.
Many bugs need to be fixed.
Basically, it is useless ROM
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I found you some bug-fixes!
GO JUMP OFF A BRIDGE!

ruebyi said:
got a problem: When Starting Opera mobile, touchflo is closing, sometimes it starts automatically new and closes Opera and sometimes Opera works and touchflo stays disabled!
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same problem i have..
also i notice i didnt installed anything and then 2mb were gone from the storage maybe a memory leak(not sure) but otherwise the rom is great, jus a little bit more storage would have been good but you said if you want storage try another rom. great!!!! great also love the opera browser.keep it up my dude.

weird - I flashed this ROM and the splash screen says OTP7.0....

DrStinkbomb said:
weird - I flashed this ROM and the splash screen says OTP7.0....
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I think gullum might have only included the rom without new splash screen.

DrStinkbomb said:
weird - I flashed this ROM and the splash screen says OTP7.0....
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he didnt include a splash screen so you keep your previous one

I've been using ttran's OTP7 series roms, so that explains the splash screen.
BTW - I'm loving some aspects of this ROM. The HTC YouTube is so much nicer than the YouTubePlayer that I had installed before. And the Opera browser - although a bit much for the Herald to handle - is pretty sweet too. HTC YouTube even plays pretty well over T-Mo's Edge network.
Question - do you need to have the Opera browser installed to get HTC YouTube to work? Or would it work with OperaMini as the browser? Just curious.
I gotta say, sometimes the phone gets real slow and laggy and I have to soft reset. Also I get a Windows Media unknown error 0x8000FFFF when I try to play a video taken with the phone camera (while in the viewer).

Should I stay or should I go? (6.1 to 6.5)

I have a Sprint TP2 running Winmobile 6.1 and I am considering applying the upgrade to 6.5. I am a fairly new Winmobile user having spent a few years with Palm OS devices having left Winmobile for that. I find Winmobile to be much improved this time around. My TP2 is now running very smoothly since I disabled Push Internet (cab found here...Thank you very much!) Before that I had many freezes and had to hard reset about once a week and apply my backup. (Resco Backup) I also have applied a few other very useful registry hacks that I found here as well that have added to the functionality of my TP2.
I have many 3rd party apps that I love. To name a few of my favorites;
Tom Codon's WiFi Router-So awesome!!!!!!
SK Tools-Indespensible to me for keeping my TP2 running smoothly
Elecont Weather for the Today screen
Elecont Launcher for the Today screen
pmClean
Skype
Skyfire
Qik
I don't use TF3D as I prefer to have the info that I wish to see at a glance on my screen so I use the traditional Today screen and with Elecont Launcher I am able to launch the apps that I use most frequently right from my Today screen. Plus, it's a bit of a memory hog and I prefer my phone to be snappy. I suffer from memory OCD-always looking to see how much memory I am using! Currently I run around 34%-40%.
My questions are;
1) If I upgrade to 6.5 will I still be able to have the traditional Today screen like I have with 6.1?
2) Will I gain an appreciable amount of other benefits to make it worth the work of installing the new rom, reinstalling all of my apps, and setting up all of the other settings the way I like them? (and if so, what are they?)
3) Are there any apps that I listed that you know won't function on 6.5?
Lastly, I just really wish to thank you all for your work! I really love this forum!
Thanks in advance for your input!
Geo

I would love to know too. I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, so the upgrade to Sense 2.5 if of no use to me.
Will 6.5 offer any stability or speed improvements?
Thanks!

Do it!
Just make the "tweaks" you need.

I think one of the only benefits you will gain in 6.5 is some of the features are more touch friendly. Everything you mentioned should work fine in the upgrade also. If you want to improve the touch friendliness you could also install some themes which skin winmo (so you don't have to hard reset, re-install, etc).
If you do decide to go w/ 6.5, customization won't be too difficult if you use programs like resco and XDA UC Customize. IN my experience, the stock 6.1 ROM is about the most stable available once all tweaks are applied.

I upgraded from Verizon 6.1 to Verizon 6.5.
I have regreted it and when I'm in the mood for a hard reset, I will go likely back to 6.1.
I've had a lot of incompatabilities. I prefer using the Today screen, but a number of my prefered apps fail or cause lockup issues that I never had before. So generally, I am stuck with using the Sensui 2.1 interface, which is very limiting IMHO.
Can't say if the Sprint version is as poor.

worwig said:
I upgraded from Verizon 6.1 to Verizon 6.5.
I have regreted it and when I'm in the mood for a hard reset, I will go likely back to 6.1.
I've had a lot of incompatabilities. I prefer using the Today screen, but a number of my prefered apps fail or cause lockup issues that I never had before. So generally, I am stuck with using the Sensui 2.1 interface, which is very limiting IMHO.
Can't say if the Sprint version is as poor.
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in my experience the vzw 6.5 is no good. Try one of the custom 6.5 you will probably have a much better experience.

Wow! Thanks for all of the input!
Well...with much fear and trepidation, I went. I found that I could still use the traditional Today screen and all of the apps that I was using on 6.1. Heck, I was even able to use Elecont Launcher even though it isn't supported for 6.5. Funny thing on the way to all of that though...after playing with the HTC Sense UI I found that I can customize it more than I could TF3D and I'm pretty happy with it over using the traditional Today screen. I will use it until I get bored, then I'll try a custom rom. (Hehe...3 mos?) I need to learn more about those before I take that leap though!
Thank you all so much for weighing in!

gbweller said:
Well...with much fear and trepidation, I went. I found that I could still use the traditional Today screen and all of the apps that I was using on 6.1. Heck, I was even able to use Elecont Launcher even though it isn't supported for 6.5. Funny thing on the way to all of that though...after playing with the HTC Sense UI I found that I can customize it more than I could TF3D and I'm pretty happy with it over using the traditional Today screen. I will use it until I get bored, then I'll try a custom rom. (Hehe...3 mos?) I need to learn more about those before I take that leap though!
Thank you all so much for weighing in!
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Welcome to WinMo 6.5 and Sense. Here are some nice links:
Mods for Sense UI **make sure you download the correct version of Sense Mods, check your version in device info**
Themes and Apps sorted by most viewed (popular)
Also, you might wanna check out SPB Mobile Shell, its a great software that allows you to customize up to 5 screens with widgets, programs and system settings icon. SPB Mobile Shell

Very nice! I can't wait until I can check the Sense mods out! Thank you! I tried SBP Mobile Shell when I had 6.1 and didn't love it. It's a nice program...it just didn't do it for me. Maybe I'll have another look at it though now that I have a little more experience with Winmobile and have switched to 6.5.
For the record...I am not finding a good enough reason to have not made the switch to 6.5 from 6.1 on the Sprint TP2. Still a little buggy here and there but who's to say I didn't do that to myself with some free app that I installed. Hey, that's why I have a backup, right? In fact, I think that if you have any Winmobile and don't have a backup program with a new back up every few days, you might be being foolish. Ultimately, you should make notes attached to each backup to remind yourself at what point your were at in terms of apps and tweaks. Unless of course you are one of these developers and are really smart and can easily get yourself out of a jam without spending hours and hours online searching for solutions and reloading and resetting up you phone...ugh! Anyway...Sprint's 6.5 is prettier and not really worse than 6.1 IMHO. I'd do it again.
A couple of things thing that I am curious about though...After installing 6.5, all of my programs, and getting the settings dialed in, I ran a back up with Resco Backup's latest version. I got dialogue box stating that I had 22 errors (all looked like registry entries) all relating to Twitter. When I performed an "Integrity Check" of the backup, it stated that there are no errors. They don't show up in "Invalid Registry Entries" in SK Tools either. Now I don't care if Titter works or not. I don't use it. It's just strange.
Also, I installed the NoPushInternet and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy cabs expecting a performance change like I saw with NoPushInternet alone with 6.1. After installing NoPush with 6.1 I was at 32% with TF3D disabled following a reset. After some heavy use I would see it bloat to around 48%. The numbers were roughly 10% more respectively with TF3D enabled. With 6.5 I am at 41% coming of a reset with Sense disabled and 50% with it enabled. However, I noticed this morning it bloated up to 86%! I can't remember what I went to do and got a dialogue box stating that I didn't have enough memory to perform the task so I looked to see how much Ram I was using. I wonder if some possible culprits are;
The 5 different cities that I get weather data for all needing to sync @ 15 min intervals?
Location services all together?
Being signed in to Facebook by default?
Animated wallpaper?
All of the above?
I find that simply sliding along the icons and pausing at each in Sense makes the memory usage spike to 58% and settle back at 54%. Navigating to and from Settings, going back an forth to email, taking a few calls, and I am up in the mid 60%'s. Maybe this is to be expected and these numbers are considered good...or maybe I just need a more efficient rom. I guess that in keeping with Microsoft's long standing tradition (pre-Win7), the newer OS is heftier than the last! I just hope this thing can keep up with me! Maybe just some Sense mods will do the trick. If I were to install a new rom, can anyone suggest a high quality one that is a good fit for a Sprint user? I don't want to risk loosing any of my Sprint stuff. Sprint TV, Sprint acct info, etc. I am not sure how all of this works with cooked roms and specific carriers. Sorry to be such a noob. I have also considered overclocking the processor. Not sure how risky that is but I do have Sprint's damage replacement coverage. I haven't found instructions for that yet specific to the Sprint TP2 but I do want to play around with that and see what happens. I realize I have asked a lot of questions here. If anyone can take a stab at all or part I will appreciate it. I notice that some (or all?) developers will take a donation (or tip) for help. I am willing to do so in exchange for good help in getting my Sprint TP2 smokin' fast, (more) app filled, and reliable. I may be suffering from a sickness...I can't seem to leave well enough alone! The amount of donation being relative to the amount of help, of course. I did just make my 20 Euro donation to the main effort. I am glad that I did...I certainly have benefited from visiting this forum more than any other forum.
Also, if I am supposed to post a new thread (or threads!) since I have veered off track here, please let me know. I will cut/paste it in a new one(s). I want to behave myself accordingly.

gbweller said:
I have a Sprint TP2 running Winmobile 6.1 and I am considering applying the upgrade to 6.5. I am a fairly new Winmobile user having spent a few years with Palm OS devices having left Winmobile for that. I find Winmobile to be much improved this time around. My TP2 is now running very smoothly since I disabled Push Internet (cab found here...Thank you very much!) Before that I had many freezes and had to hard reset about once a week and apply my backup. (Resco Backup) I also have applied a few other very useful registry hacks that I found here as well that have added to the functionality of my TP2.
I have many 3rd party apps that I love. To name a few of my favorites;
Tom Codon's WiFi Router-So awesome!!!!!!
SK Tools-Indespensible to me for keeping my TP2 running smoothly
Elecont Weather for the Today screen
Elecont Launcher for the Today screen
pmClean
Skype
Skyfire
Qik
I don't use TF3D as I prefer to have the info that I wish to see at a glance on my screen so I use the traditional Today screen and with Elecont Launcher I am able to launch the apps that I use most frequently right from my Today screen. Plus, it's a bit of a memory hog and I prefer my phone to be snappy. I suffer from memory OCD-always looking to see how much memory I am using! Currently I run around 34%-40%.
My questions are;
1) If I upgrade to 6.5 will I still be able to have the traditional Today screen like I have with 6.1?
2) Will I gain an appreciable amount of other benefits to make it worth the work of installing the new rom, reinstalling all of my apps, and setting up all of the other settings the way I like them? (and if so, what are they?)
3) Are there any apps that I listed that you know won't function on 6.5?
Lastly, I just really wish to thank you all for your work! I really love this forum!
Thanks in advance for your input!
Geo
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I did the 6.5 update to my Sprint Touch Pro 2 and installed the Tom Codon's WiFi Router and it works perfect. I can't speak to the other aps you are using.

Yea I don't like the stock SPB Mobile, I use espresso mod. You can find most of theSPB Mods here.
I noticed a similar "buggy" experience when switching over to vzw's 6.5 ROM. It worked, but it never seemed as smooth as 6.1. Sprint Auto-Clean/Tweak is a CAB that does just about every tweak to improve performance. Maybe this will help with your RAM %s, but they seem very similar to what I experience (Sense UI ~ 50% idle, 60% after a day of usage, specs below in sig). I'm not really sure what is causing your memory spike, maybe try some of these tweaks and see if it still happens.
Backups are important, but more important is making sure you downloaded something that is compatible with your hardware/software and that you read the thread/readme before installing it. If you do those there should be no need for a backup.
As for a custom ROM, I am not aware of any that include those sprint apps. Check out http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=98 for some custom ROMs.
About the overclocking, I believe our processor is an overclocked tp processor, so i'm not sure how much more we can get out of it.
Personally i'd say you are capable enough of doing this all yourself, so be confident and take the necessary steps of reading beforehand.

Thank you burtonsnow8. I appreciate your answers and your confidence in me. I'll continue to mine the forums!

Most stable rom

Hey guys
Ok so im up for upgrading my p4350's rom but id like to use the phone on a day to day basis. Can anyone please tell me what the most stable rom currently is. Another thing, i dont want useless apps ill rarely use.
Been looking at roms by gullum and aserg and they look good but i want to know from people who have tested alot of roms in the past. As this is my first (and hopefully) only time i will be flashing i want to make sure i get it right
Thnx
RuDz

Flashing by SD Card or are you plan on using the RomUpdateUtility?
Also, please make sure you are HardSPL'd..

I tried many roms, but none of them can shut them down.
Who can tell me how to shut it down. not sleep
An one thing is how to turn vibration of when I touch OK or win button on the screen.

Tribulattifather said:
Flashing by SD Card or are you plan on using the RomUpdateUtility?
Also, please make sure you are HardSPL'd..
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Hi thanx for the swift reply
Im planning on flashing via the USB cable. I am going to hardSPL as soon as i now for sure there is a stable rom out there that i can use.
Ive downloaded thanhy25's Clear Rom Win 6.5.1 Build 23071 - V2 and im thinking of installing soon. Good idea? bad idea?
another problem is that my ipl is only 1.02.xxx but as far as i know i can upgrade it to 4.xxx yang or something the like.
Any suggestions?

I'm looking for the exact same thing. The lack of space has been driving me crazy, I'm constantly at around 1MB and the only thing that's installed are some Spb applications. I'm looking for something very stable because I don't want to flash it all the time (I hope I'll have to do it just this once - I want to minimize the risk of destroying it, I don't have the money for a new one ). It currently has Windows 6.0, SE CE 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3) and I can't remember the last time I had to soft reset it or had any trouble with it, besides the low memory. I'd like to find a stable ROM with enough free memory, but not completely without programs.
The things I mostly use are phone and messages of course, email, office, alarms and timers, camera, IE, WiFi and Bluetooth, weather forecast, ActiveSync, WM5torage, pdf reader, Total commander, Google maps, MSN Messenger... I'd also like to find something like Spb stuff to make it more practical to use, and to be able to play audio and video files, some other browser besides IE would be nice, gmail client, IM client that would work with both MSN and gTalk (I used Talkonaut at one time), to install games without problems (to have .NET framework, Java, Flash and such)... Some nice skin would be nice, but all in all I'd rather have stability than good looks. Is there a ROM that would be similar to this? What version of Windows would you recommend, 6.1, 6.5?
How complicated would it be for me to cook my own ROM? Is it worth learning the process just to make this one custom ROM? Also, is there an emulator which I can use to try out different ROMs before flashing them to my device?
Sorry for the huge post

x_RuDz_x said:
Hi thanx for the swift reply
Any suggestions?
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Try JustStablev2b5micro. It gives you almoust 30MB free Ram. I use it with SPBMS 3.5.3 and I have around 22-24 MB free memory. But you must be HSPL I think.

HardSPL isnt an issue. I prefer it inface because i wannt to permanently flash the phone with a new rom.
Uhm what is SPBMS 3.5.3?? Sorry im a noob when it comes to this
Any idea where i could find this JustStablev2b5micro
Thanx alot

So far my fav is the TribU2U Version 3 w/Titanium [Build 28232] - Although I turn off the titanium interface and run the basic homescreen with my fav apps.
Having the new WM 6.5 interface is much better then old 6.0 look and feel.
I think that with any ROM you have (custom or official) you need to softreset about once every couple weeks... just to keep it running smooth.
-Iz

Hey, izzy, try my newest ROMs out. I think you'll like them. And don't worry, if you don't like them I have that other ROM on file still.

Link to this rom?? =D

I'll give it shot tomorrow morning.

x_RuDz_x said:
Hey guys
Ok so im up for upgrading my p4350's rom but id like to use the phone on a day to day basis. Can anyone please tell me what the most stable rom currently is. Another thing, i dont want useless apps ill rarely use.
Been looking at roms by gullum and aserg and they look good but i want to know from people who have tested alot of roms in the past. As this is my first (and hopefully) only time i will be flashing i want to make sure i get it right
Thnx
RuDz
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I can suggest this rom. Aserg is my favorite as cookes stable and efficient roms. I have tried many of roms listed in this thread. I suggest to read all replies in order to review user experiences.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366845
#2nd post is including English Version.

x_RuDz_x said:
Link to this rom?? =D
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_h_t_t_p_://justkitchen.info/JustROMs/
_h_t_t_p_://w_w_w_.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/