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http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/23/lg-optimus-2x-dual-core-android-phone-hits-europe-in-january-pe/
the Dual Core Phone is coming in less than 1 month. if anything it sounds like LG wants to kill the nexus S before it gets a chance.
Today you have the option to buy Nexus S. or Pre order the Dual Core phone with Tegra 2 GPU for max gaming perforamnce along with better camera and an SD card option and 1080p video recording capability
downside its 2.2 and unless it gets rooted early, 2.3 will take a while to be out.
seriously . i didnt know that they would release it so soon.
I do not particularly like LG at all, so I'll pass until someone else looses a dual-core into the wild.
No thanks. I'll be sticking with the nexus until the end of next year when a Dual-Core N3 is announced.
I like my updates a lot, tyvm
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I do not particularly like LG at all, so I'll pass until someone else looses a dual-core into the wild.
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normally i would agree with you. if you give me an LG phone for free. i wouldnt take it. its LG. but god damn i am really thinking of this one. the specs is out of this world
Tegra 2 is 'that' much powerful than Hummingbird ?
LG branded things for me is last resort after Thompson xD
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normally i would agree with you. if you give me an LG phone for free. i wouldnt take it. its LG. but god damn i am really thinking of this one. the specs is out of this world
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Yeah, I agree the phone SEEMS like it's going to be absolutely amazing, and it very well may be. But I don't want to wait for updates and/or devs to get the latest and greatest software.
And as someone else said, I'll wait for the Nexus 3 or whatever it will be called.
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Tegra 2 is 'that' much powerful than Hummingbird ?
LG branded things for me is last resort after Thompson xD
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Yes its much more powerful. its from Nvidia after all
and i agree i hate the LG branding too.
No question the Tegra 2 device is the lastest and greatest based on dual chip solely. Its a monument release despite launching with 2.2. I'm not a gamer so that aspect doesn't interest me at all. I always keep two devices (1)cdma (2)gsm, for geek reasons. I really want to get both devices in my hand, then make a decision. We all know it will be the Tegra 2 device.
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Nah i hoped for 30-40% more power ... there is no need to take this over future Orion based phones.
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage...he-Test-Deemed-Faster-Than-Hummingbird-4.png/
BTW. I lost hopes in NV after huge fail in dedicated PS3 GPU.
I'm not a massive fan of LG phones, even if the specs are good. Bearing in mind I've still not decided on an NS yet. I think it's a good step though, as someone has to push the dual core tech forward. When Samsung (which I have nothing against) or HTC start pushing the tech in their own form, whether it's Tegra, Orion or something from Qualcomm, I'll be more excited
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No, had a Galaxy S and hated waiting for updates, and not knowing if it would be updated.
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No, had a Galaxy S and hated waiting for updates, and not knowing if it would be updated.
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Just flassshhh ... xD They need to update TouchWizz and any other software so wait in patience
Somebody know what is top LG android phone right now available in market ?
Only time will tell whether the Opt 2X is worth it. Which is why I say this is a brink in mobile technology -- the standard is changing. Nexus S represents generally the best of an era that is ending (era of single core, 3G, etc). It might be worth waiting to some. No one can tell (meaning, not people who praise dual-core, or people who try to say dual-core is useless/wouldn't get first dual-core, etc.) for now.
As for the direct/clean Google updates, there are ways to work around that with other phones (flashing ROMs, etc.). If the Opt 2X succeeds, you can be sure the dev. community will be supporting the device with those sorts of specs.
But again, time will tell. I want to get (and like) the Nexus S as much as the next guy, but I'm waiting a bit. If the rumors are true, and that dual-cores will come early 2011, the wait is not far off. Also, the slew of issues the Nexus S seems to be having (a quick glance at the threads here will show tons of concerns) is serving as a huge deterrent. I actually like Samsung products, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that Google/Sammy rushed the Nexus S out.
Can you name 1 game, no strike that, 1 APP that doesn't run flawlessly on the Nexus S already? Honestly, having a more powerful processor is not the answer, the software is what needs work and it has been that way for over a year.
Software has been lacking while hardware keeps improving, which is why we're still stuck in 2006 when it comes to game development.
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Can you name 1 game, no strike that, 1 APP that doesn't run flawlessly on the Nexus S already? Honestly, having a more powerful processor is not the answer, the software is what needs work and it has been that way for over a year.
Software has been lacking while hardware keeps improving, which is why we're still stuck in 2006 when it comes to game development.
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people said the same thing when Nexus 1 was out then Galaxy S was released. they all run the same things. it just it runs better on Galaxy S.
and i assume the same thing will happen for future games for example.
its not just the aps. the thing has HDMI out to play video and games on ur TV. it plays videos at 1080P. it RECORD videos at 1080 and a better GPU . its just all rounder a better specs phone. and its less than 1 month away.
I'm just waiting for a phone that has a 4.3" screen that is smaller than the size of the Nexus S. Phones have way too much useless glass/plastic around the screen that serve no purpose. Performance I could care less, they all work fine for me. Hell, I thought the HTC Aria was pretty snappy when I had it.
Can you provide a link that proves it has a SAMOLED screen?
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plus it also had the super amoled screen. and a better GPU . its just all rounder a better specs phone. and its less than 1 month away.
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Can you provide a link that proves it has a SAMOLED screen?
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+1
if have also the SAmoled, I'll buy it without hesitation when it comes out, if not samsung has a sgs2 with t2 etc. soon...
if 2x Optimus had a screen of 4.3 or 4.5 samold, and would be perfect grrr
@ll_l_x_l_ll
Forgive me for being offtopic for a moment, but I must ask, why are you here on these forums? Most of the posts I see from you are "LOL NEXUS S SUX!!!1!!11!" so I have to ask. Are you trying to convince people that they made a bad purchase and whatever phone you're currently using is better? Not trying to start a flamewar, merely curious about your intentions.
As far as your question regarding LG Optimus 2X, my answer is no. It runs what looks like a TouchWiz derivative and I detest TouchWiz. Its not that I hate all layovers, it's that I hate ugly/cartoony layovers. I don't mind SenseUI at all and actually wish that Google would incorporate some of their widgets into stock Android. And, personally, I don't understand the complaint about the lack of a microsd card on the Nexus S. Is 16gbs not enough? It is for me. Then again, I'm a guy who's had the same computer for the last two years and just barely made it halfway through the 500gb hard drive.
Dual-core processors are definitely the future, but nothing out there right now is optimized to take advantage of it and it will be some time before they do. Would today's apps run better? Probably. Would they run better to justify purchasing another phone? Not for me, yet. Also the 1080p video recording is neat, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've used the camcorder feature. Further, who the heck is gonna play phone games on their TVs? lol I can't imagine trying to play Angry Birds on a 42" screen.
On the topic of the screen, a quick googling of the specs seems to pull up it's just a TFT normal LCD screen like the MT4G, EVO, or Droid series. There was a picture LG sent to Phandroid showing their screen to be better than SAMOLED/Retina, but it was a photoshopped image made to generate buzz.
no not going to buy, because there is currently is no real world advantage to have a Dual Core phone. Hell most people dont even have dual core PCs
What's the next phone after the captivate that's going to get a lot of dev attention? It seems like the Inspire and the Atrix aren't getting much, likely due to how hard it is to load ROMs. Is it just a matter of wait and see to know what the next well-developed AT&T Android phone is?
most likely whatever the next samsung phone is, if only because they don't bother with trying to lock them down
As it gets more defined I see it getting harder to load up custom roms for android. Ok maybe not harder but a longer flash process. I would say the next would be the next great HTC that comes out. A few have already moved from the Captivate to the Inspire and swear to leave Samsung alone lol
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As it gets more defined I see it getting harder to load up custom roms for android. Ok maybe not harder but a longer flash process. I would say the next would be the next great HTC that comes out. A few have already moved from the Captivate to the Inspire and swear to leave Samsung alone lol
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I do feel like HTC has the most support among enthusiasts, but it's hard to tell. Aren't the next Sony Ericson devices going to have non locked bootloaders purposely? If any of those hit AT&T, then I feel like those are going to be hot phones to develop for, since they have bloated software, unlocked bootloaders, and a lot of hardware. Or am I totally on the wrong track?
That, and when AT&T eats up T-Mo, we should have a lot more phones, since the MT, Sidekick and G series phones will be rolled into the AT&T portfolio.
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I do feel like HTC has the most support among enthusiasts, but it's hard to tell. Aren't the next Sony Ericson devices going to have non locked bootloaders purposely? If any of those hit AT&T, then I feel like those are going to be hot phones to develop for, since they have bloated software, unlocked bootloaders, and a lot of hardware. Or am I totally on the wrong track?
That, and when AT&T eats up T-Mo, we should have a lot more phones, since the MT, Sidekick and G series phones will be rolled into the AT&T portfolio.
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Personally ive had such bad experiences with sony devices of all shapes and sizes (computers, phones, home entertainment equipment) that i would buy a locked bootloader motorola phone before i would buy from sony again. that being said. ill probably go for the next great samsung phone, probably the galaxyS 2.
Many of our great Cappy devs moved to the Inspire(adamholden, di11i, DG)
Personally I picked up an Inspire but mainly out of boredom, I even flash my cappy more now, lol. As soon as the sgs2 is out for a few weeks ill be grabbing that too. It'll be a pricey move but with the way Samsung has taken care of those customers I see it as a good investment.
I'd stick with Samsung for a few reasons:
-Their hardware is top-of-the-line
-There are minimal lockdowns and restrictions to functionality and development
-Their build quality isn't terrible (they use Gorilla Glass and hard plastic, etc.)
-Their software has drastically improved (launcher aside, TouchWiz is pretty cool)
-Their video drivers are the only ones with h/w acceleration of tons of video and audio formats, and their MFC has support for containers such as MKV
-You can find really good deals on upgrades to phones like the Captivate
Samsung just released benchmark figures over 3000 for the SGS2. I truly hope AT&T get it before the end of the year
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Samsung just released benchmark figures over 3000 for the SGS2. I truly hope AT&T get it before the end of the year
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I don't see waiting for the att version a good idea at all, especially after the froyo situation.
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Personally ive had such bad experiences with sony devices of all shapes and sizes (computers, phones, home entertainment equipment) that i would buy a locked bootloader motorola phone before i would buy from sony again. that being said. ill probably go for the next great samsung phone, probably the galaxyS 2.
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I've had pretty good experiences over the years. We have some aging Sony HT gear, including my receiver that's from the 80's, before I was born!! That being said, I'm not so sold on their phones.
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Many of our great Cappy devs moved to the Inspire(adamholden, di11i, DG)
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Really? I don't see a whole lot going on for the Inspire. There's only a couple of roms out right now...
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I'd stick with Samsung for a few reasons:
-Their hardware is top-of-the-line
-There are minimal lockdowns and restrictions to functionality and development
-Their build quality isn't terrible (they use Gorilla Glass and hard plastic, etc.)
-Their software has drastically improved (launcher aside, TouchWiz is pretty cool)
-Their video drivers are the only ones with h/w acceleration of tons of video and audio formats, and their MFC has support for containers such as MKV
-You can find really good deals on upgrades to phones like the Captivate
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Top of the line hardware? Yeah, right. Samsung's hardware is decent, I love the form factor of the Captivate, but the build quality and RF are definitely a mixed bag. Some big ups, and some big downs.
I would agree about the lockdowns, however, they are a lot more open than Motorola about it.
With Gingerbread source code released, I'm happy with my Captivate for a good while longer. There are still 2.2.1 roms I haven't flashed yet. I dont think I'll be moving on anytime soon
not sure what the next will be with the 4g galaxy s line being more diverse and the galaxy s 2 not being available on contract yet.
also i think the atrix will get alot but it will come in different forms. some (like me) are holding off for alternaltive before the splurge on an atrix. i want to see what others have to offer in the dual core areana before i open my wallet but very well might get an atrix. there will be kernel modules and patches rather than kernels built from source. also they are working to get full advantage out of the motorola webtop view. using it to launch linux along side android making the accessories almost worth having.
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not sure what the next will be with the 4g galaxy s line being more diverse and the galaxy s 2 not being available on contract yet.
also i think the atrix will get alot but it will come in different forms. some (like me) are holding off for alternaltive before the splurge on an atrix. i want to see what others have to offer in the dual core areana before i open my wallet but very well might get an atrix. there will be kernel modules and patches rather than kernels built from source. also they are working to get full advantage out of the motorola webtop view. using it to launch linux along side android making the accessories almost worth having.
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I wanted to love the Atrix because of it's qHD screen in the 4" form factor, but the way its locked up is just bad. I hope that devs are able to get past it, but the other thing that I'm worried about, both on the official update and ROMs side is that they will be worrying about the whole webtop/dock garbage, and that will slow down the actual software development of the device in order to incorporate a bunch of useless features.
I too havn't had good experiences with sony phones. They seem to be turning into the next apple. Barely upgrade their phones and say thats its a whole new phone. (x10/arc)
Definitely want the galaxy s II. that thing's a beast and a half.
So disappointed with the Atrix's smokey screen. It had so much potential!
Has anyone heard anything about the Infuse 4g? it seems so insignificant now.
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I too havn't had good experiences with sony phones. They seem to be turning into the next apple. Barely upgrade their phones and say thats its a whole new phone. (x10/arc)
Definitely want the galaxy s II. that thing's a beast and a half.
So disappointed with the Atrix's smokey screen. It had so much potential!
Has anyone heard anything about the Infuse 4g? it seems so insignificant now.
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The Galaxy S II does seem like a cool phone, I'm just a little concerned about the trend towards 4.3" screens. 4" is ginormous enough- can't we just stop there?
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The Galaxy S II does seem like a cool phone, I'm just a little concerned about the trend towards 4.3" screens. 4" is ginormous enough- can't we just stop there?
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Most of them reduce the bezel size so that a larger screen doesn't necessarily mean a way larger device. Take the SGSII for example and you will see that it ain't that much bigger than it's predecessor despite an extra 3 inches in screen size.
Enhanced said:
Most of them reduce the bezel size so that a larger screen doesn't necessarily mean a way larger device. Take the SGSII for example and you will see that it ain't that much bigger than it's predecessor despite an extra 3 inches in screen size.
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Lol you forgot your "."
I was like what the hell did I miss ,a seven inch screened phone?... Ha then a decimal and quick maths...oh ya. But for a second you had me
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Lol you forgot your "."
I was like what the hell did I miss ,a seven inch screened phone?... Ha then a decimal and quick maths...oh ya. But for a second you had me
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Those videos of the english guy saying "HALLLOOOOOO!!!!!" on his giant phone will come alive with a smartphone!!!
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I'd stick with Samsung for a few reasons:
-Their hardware is top-of-the-line
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Yeah, just like the GPS in the Captivate.
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/04/27/samsung-galaxy-s3-challenge-iphone-5-autumn/
If true thats ridiculous....the GS2 isn't even out yet! Can we wait at least a year and a half for a successor?? I'd imagine many wont be pleased is thats true...
I want to get a new phone but its crazy how so may phones come out so quickly and out-dating the other...I feel like just getting the Iphone 5 and stick with that, at least there wont be a million choices like with android and get tempted to keep switching back and forth, I swear with android its like a new phone thats better comes out shortly after one phone comes out.
Anyone think they know what IP5 might have? Dual Core, better screen, different design, better Camera?
solidkevin said:
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/04/27/samsung-galaxy-s3-challenge-iphone-5-autumn/
If true thats ridiculous....the GS2 isn't even out yet! Can we wait at least a year and a half for a successor?? I'd imagine many wont be pleased is thats true...
I want to get a new phone but its crazy how so may phones come out so quickly and out-dating the other...I feel like just getting the Iphone 5 and stick with that, at least there wont be a million choices like with android and get tempted to keep switching back and forth, I swear with android its like a new phone thats better comes out shortly after one phone comes out.
Anyone think they know what IP5 might have? Dual Core, better screen, different design, better Camera?
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Note how that article says samsung is thinking of a 2ghz device sometime next year, NOT this year, then there is speculation that the device is the SGS3, and then there is someone doing even further speculation that it could come out this fall, even though we know this is impossible partly because the SGS2 variant for verizon probably won't be out until a couple months before then at best based on current news. This is just overspeculation leading to insane predictions. SGS3 in Jan or Feb next year is possible though if Tegra 3 is out by then though, as samsung will want to compete, but that's just my own speculation and have no factual data backing it as well.
Meh, I like having the highest tiered phone as much as the next guy so something new/awesome coming out right after I got the past top tier phone is a little irritating, however having new things out is always great.
I can't see me needing anything stronger than the Galaxy S 2; I would love a 4.5 inch screen but 4.3 and the specs it has is great.
The Wonders of competition I'd rather they were doing this than have technology move very slowly, Just pick a phone you like, Not slow, looks good, nice screen, decent camera and then stick with it
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The Wonders of competition I'd rather they were doing this than have technology move very slowly, Just pick a phone you like, Not slow, looks good, nice screen, decent camera and then stick with it
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Agreed. You can drive yourself insane waiting for the perfect device. Pick whatever suits you best when you need a new phone and stick with it for a year or two or until you genuinely need more power.
I stuck with my mt3g as long as I could. Now I have the mt4g and love it! I don't anticipate outgrowing it any time soon.
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Seriously this is getting annoying. How am I suppose to keep up with that... They need to invest in their current devices instead of shooting out new ones every half a year...
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Seriously this is getting annoying. How am I suppose to keep up with that... They need to invest in their current devices instead of shooting out new ones every half a year...
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I totally agree with is statement, its getting so you cant even appreciate te phone you waited for. I have a friend who literally buys every verizon phone as it comes out and sells his current phone everytime. I personally will be buying e sensation and thats it for atleast s year.
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It is pretty frustrating :S Especially for Canadians, we get locked in 3 year contracts, not 2
the grass is always greener.
Well you're not alone. It's not like software/graphics wise, it's keeping up with the hardware. I don't really see any game that's pushing the tegra devices to their limit, or even power vr sgx540.
So point being, even if hardware improves dramatically next year, last year's phones will still keep up with what today demands.
sgs2 is already out, just not in north america yet.
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http://www.itproportal.com/2011/04/27/samsung-galaxy-s3-challenge-iphone-5-autumn/
If true thats ridiculous....the GS2 isn't even out yet! Can we wait at least a year and a half for a successor?? I'd imagine many wont be pleased is thats true...
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It's not true.
If it were true, IT Portal wouldn't have put a question mark on the end of the headline.
But you visited the page, and probably saw some ads. IT Portal got advertising revenue. A few thousand more like you, and IT Portal sustains its business.
Who cares about the truth when you've a business to run?
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...I can't see me needing anything stronger than the Galaxy S 2...
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amen to that bro. I love my vibrant. and the SGS2 is just going to be so awesome I will be so content with that too haha
Give me Tegra 3, 2GB ram, HD display, 4320p recording.
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Give me Tegra 3, 2GB ram, HD display, 4320p recording.
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Lulzy.
I don't see a problem with SGS the Third coming out next year... one solid leap forward every year sounds perfectly legitimate to me so long as the tech and improvements are keeping pace.
Yeah. I'm a little knicked that I got a great phone (HTC HD2) released here in the US a little over a year ago, then the next thing I know it's EVO with Android, no Android for the HD2 (still the best hardware out there) and no Windows Phone 7 upgrade for the HD2 either from TMO. Now I'm trolling XDA and trying to put together the info and ability (and trying to work up the balls) to set up my HD2 on a dual boot with Android on SD and WinMo 6.5 NAND.
It gets old.
wth!!! how look that? i think really better than GS2
Hello,
I got a lil problem with choosing my next phone, and yeah lets start with some info.
So my contract ends at 22/10/2011, and I am in for a new phone.
I currently have an Iphone 3GS, and would like to upgrade to android.
I don't really want to go Iphone 4, reasons will be explained further in the post.
So my choices are SGSII,Nexus S,HTC Sensation.
What I like about the SGSII, its fastest, SAMOLED, much capacity,
dislike, the plastic not stury/tough feeling.
HTC sensation, yeah it got the sturdiness and toughness, and camera is a bit better but thats it, doesnt have real big cons, lil less ram than SGSII and doesn't have a big internal memory.
Nexus S, I dont know rofl. SAMOLED Screen
Contract durations for HTC&SGSII is 2 years.
" " for the Nexus is only 1 year.
Ill need to add a 38 euro on top of my contract for SGSII.
It's totally free, the HTC with same Contract.
Nexus needs only 24 euro, note 1 year only!
Well if i chose the Nexus I could let the dual core mature.
Not many things are optimized anyway for Dual core.
If I chose the SGSII, well yeah it got many + but sturdiness is something really important for me.
HTC, it got less memory but heck i could buy from the 34 euro memory, price difference.
Now we are at the Iphone part, yeah the problem is I need to add a whopping 190 euro for a iphone 4 with 2 year contract, and 16GB.
All contracts are the same, same provider and same contract only contract lengths vary.
Also, if I get the Nexus i am able to choose between black white and silver!
Yeah that would totally be awesome silver, and doesnt it have the rumoured 2.4?
oh yeah who need Google+ pm meh
updated my titl.
does now anybody wants to help i hope so.
Galaxy S2. Sensation isn´t device what we want. Get a Evo 3D or a Galaxy s2
well Nexus S is also a choice as it only is 1 year
and its a great phone overall except it lacks a dual core..
and I would be able to get the n33t color Silver,
maybe it has android 2.4 ??
Also the screen wont be silver i guess, thats something i dislike/...
I've used all of them so here we go!
Does looking at a SAMOLED+ make your pants wet?
>If Yes, get the SGSII
>If No, Continue
Do you like Sense and use Sense Apps alot?
>If Yes, get the Sensation
>If No, Continue
Are you maticulous about keeping your screen "Scratch Free"?
>If Yes, get the SGSII
>If No, Continue
Do you want no extra features, a curved phone, a miss-matched UI Out-dated and the plasicy feel of Samsung without the GorillaGlass?
>If Yes, Get the Nexus S
>If No, Repeat and be more honest
Doesn't take into account contract length but...eh
Your contract isn't up til October? A lot can happen in the smartphone world in 3 months, something could come along or be announced that you want more.
That said, the nexus will always be first to get android OS updates, including ice cream sandwich (which will be coming later this year and will be 4.0).
arch3rm said:
I've used all of them so here we go!
Does looking at a SAMOLED+ make your pants wet?
>If Yes, get the SGSII,or skip to the end
>If No, Continue
Do you like Sense and use Sense Apps alot?
>If Yes, get the Sensation
>If No, Continue
Are you maticulous about keeping your screen "Scratch Free"?
>If Yes, get the SGSII
>If No, Continue
Do you want no extra features, a curved phone, a miss-matched UI Out-dated and the plasicy feel of Samsung without the GorillaGlass?
>If Yes, Get the Nexus S
>If No, Repeat and be more honest
Doesn't take into account contract length but...eh
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lol also it would be rooted so yeah the ui, who cares about that?
and curved phone isn't that totally awesome?
honestly i dunno maybe it is maybe it isnt.
Nexus S also has a SAMOLED, as its been made by samsung? and choice one is also a samsung so i dont/can't understand your negativenism about it if you start with a samsung phone in your list.
also i get to choose between, black/white/silver
SILVER
and when will the quads come?
Go sgs! you can always get rid of touchwizz.
Audren - SGS2 i9100 MIUI 1.7.8 - xda premium app
well SGSII is my least favorite choice..
it's too light, and i dont really like it how thin it is.
what about if i sit on it?
my phone is ****ed then. becuase of its thinness.
Is it me or do you guys dislike the Nexus S?
I sense some doubt.... choose the nexus s. It won't disappoint you and after a year with Android you also know if you like the os.
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I'm very confused which to choose.
Nexus S is cheap as its only a 1 year contract with T-mobile NL,
the HTC+SGSII will both be 2 years,
but I am wavering cause in that one year there might be happening something big..
runeazn said:
Hello,
I got a lil problem with choosing my next phone, and yeah lets start with some info.
So my contract ends at 22/10/2011, and I am in for a new phone.
I currently have an Iphone 3GS, and would like to upgrade to android.
I don't really want to go Iphone 4, reasons will be explained further in the post.
So my choices are SGSII,Nexus S,HTC Sensation.
What I like about the SGSII, its fastest, SAMOLED, much capacity,
dislike, the plastic not stury/tough feeling.
HTC sensation, yeah it got the sturdiness and toughness, and camera is a bit better but thats it, doesnt have real big cons, lil less ram than SGSII and doesn't have a big internal memory.
Nexus S, I dont know rofl. SAMOLED Screen
Contract durations for HTC&SGSII is 2 years.
" " for the Nexus is only 1 year.
Ill need to add a 38 euro on top of my contract for SGSII.
It's totally free, the HTC with same Contract.
Nexus needs only 24 euro, note 1 year only!
Well if i chose the Nexus I could let the dual core mature.
Not many things are optimized anyway for Dual core.
If I chose the SGSII, well yeah it got many + but sturdiness is something really important for me.
HTC, it got less memory but heck i could buy from the 34 euro memory, price difference.
Now we are at the Iphone part, yeah the problem is I need to add a whopping 190 euro for a iphone 4 with 2 year contract, and 16GB.
All contracts are the same, same provider and same contract only contract lengths vary.
Also, if I get the Nexus i am able to choose between black white and silver!
Yeah that would totally be awesome silver, and doesnt it have the rumoured 2.4?
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According to what I've read, the Nexus S would be the best choice for music playing. It supposedly has a Wolfson DAC. And it has an actual gyrometer like the iPhone 4. The Nexus S is like a Farrari clothed in an Hyundai. It has some high-spec hardware. Think of it as Google's iPhone.
But if I were to choose between those 3, I would probably go with the Sensation. I love the style and feel of the Sensation and Sense 3 is excellent. I know that when I got my Inspire, I felt about it the same way I feel about the Sensation and found that I continually value my Inspire...it continually pleases me...in stock form, no less.
For best audio - Nexus S
For lasting appeal - Sensation
For high-end specs - SGS2
By far the SGSII is the best phone for the money out of your choices. But, you seem sold on the nexus s.. so get that.
if you are worried about it being to light or thin (whaa?) try this... http://www.otterbox.com/Samsung-Gal...olor=20&start=1&cgid=samsung-galaxy-s-2-cases
All in all, we really aren't going to do anymore convincing for you, since you already have your mind (pretty much) made up.
To me, it looks clear that you've already chosen The Nexus S, now I'm curious why it receives updates first?
arilsongomes said:
To me, it looks clear that you've already chosen The Nexus S, now I'm curious why it receives updates first?
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because it is Google's platform phone i.e. - meant to show off Android's capabilities. It is completely untouched stock Android, so when Google pushes out updates, the Nexus line is the first to get it. It is also Google's development device, and developers need access to new updates to get their applications running smoothly on them.
All in all, the Nexus line aims to give the Android experience, as Google intended for it to be consumed.
nope not at all, its just that you guys assume i set my eyes on Nexus S.
But thats only because you guys only said SGSII and that was my least favorite choice, and not much about the sensation which was my 2nd choice.
the samsung has some bad things i heard about and i absolutely dont want to have, i might get a revision that fixed it but i might not. The yellowing.
and abotu that otterbox i dont know if it will feel right.
It looks like i set my eyes on the nexus cuz it was a phone i always wanted till the dual cores came, so it got scrapped of my list. but now it is way cheaper than any other phone, so i reconsidered this phone again. The get is why i actually want it is cause I just want to see how much the multicore chips will develop in that time frame and maybe i would get a much better optimized phone when my nexus contract ends then.
Samsung Galaxy S II! Dual-core, 4.3" screen, and it looks beautiful!
lol just gone to the shop,
they started **** about the SGS+ being super fast like an half time faster than his SGS ETC. that dual core is slow becuase it has dual core, i thought so wtf??
he explained like becuase the work load is spread over 2 cores the workload is 2 times as much, omg....
reverse psychology as nvidia explained their TEGRA? rofl rofl rofl..
and he said the Nexus S just plain sucked cuz its a google phone..
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lol just gone to the shop,
they started **** about the SGS+ being super fast like an half time faster than his SGS ETC. that dual core is slow becuase it has dual core, i thought so wtf??
he explained like becuase the work load is spread over 2 cores the workload is 2 times as much, omg....
reverse psychology as nvidia explained their TEGRA? rofl rofl rofl..
and he said the Nexus S just plain sucked cuz its a google phone..
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Yeah, apparently Samsung is making very enticing offers to sales staff for every Samsung branded phone they sell. It happens, and even though the Nexus S is a Samsung phone, it's a Google branded phone and Samsung wouldn't make as much on its sales as they would on their main product.
He said i would better not buy a dual core like the SGSII and said i could better take the SGS+ cuz its faster?
so he get something for selling samsung? but doesnt recommend the SGSII?
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
+1
Sent from my CM7.1 DARKSIDE glacier with the xda app.
PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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+1 on the trackpad... lol who's idea WAS that???
Totally agree with you. The Mytouch 4g is my first smartphone so I never had anything to compare it to, and I've looked at a few of these new "power" phones and the more I see them the more I realize there aren't many phones that I would be happy with coming from the mytouch. It really is a great phone. And all the development that is being done on it only makes it better. I really couldn't ask for a better phone.
although i have an amaze now and i agree, the mt4g is a beastly single core phone. I loved it's design. But are you serious about reaching for the notification bar? Lol it's less then half an inch bigger vertically than the mt4g unless you have small hands then yes that may be problems for some lol.
However, it's not the screen that's annoying but the overall design of the phone.. Such as the spaces above and below the screen is so God dam wide and useless. It's like half an inch on top and full inch on the bottom.
Btw the dual core actually saves battery life because it uses less energy.
And agreed the speed is not a huge difference especially to those who don't do much with their phones. But i noticed many small things that i like especially the camera.
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using XDA App
+1
As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Alenamari said:
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As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
Sent from my HTC Glacier
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Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
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and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
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Well, take that MIUI M1 phone for instance: $300-something isn't half bad for such machine, it would cost twice as much in the US easily.
PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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Gotta say I agree... Love my myTouch 4g!
Teo032 said:
Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
Sent from my HTC Glacier
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Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
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Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
Alenamari said:
Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
but yeah Im also sticking with my MT4G as I see no real reason for me to upgrade just yet. this is my first android smartphone and I have no complaints/issues at all...even if I did I already solved them by searching xda. although other devices look appealing, spec-wise I have no reason to get a newer phone that will just get outdone(maybe?) in another 3 months or so
I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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lol i really hate the "Mytouch" name...
which genius came up with that??
it makes the Glacier sound cheap and a "iPhone copycat" even though it's far from that...
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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
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Shhh "THEY" are watching...
I'm new to the MyTouch 4g, I've only had it for 24 hours or so, but I have to say that I like the phone more than I thought I would. I'm primarily a Nexus One/Nexus S user, but the MyTouch compares nicely to the Nexus One. Rooting was easy, and the phone feels much faster than many newer generation phones. Using physical buttons takes some getting use to, but overall I think it's one of the best purchases I've made in a while. Strangely enough I purchased it primarily to use in Europe/Spain, so it'll be interesting to see how it holds up to that task.
whoa whoa whoa hold on there cowboy, i never said you weren't here for a long time. I just had the notion that you were, but I was confused by your post count, hence the, you Speak as if you've been here for a long time, not, You ACT as if you've been here longer than i have blah blah blah (lol). And that you have been. I'm not questioning your credibility or anything oh mighty one (lol) I completely agree with you on every aspect that the mt4g is an awesome phone, trust me on that I still have one that i mess around with thats why I still frequent this section.
I wasn't attacking your posts or anything. Like i said, i was confused on the way you stated things and how YOUR release dates of phones didn't match the official release dates. Thanks for clearing that up btw... any hookups haha jk.
But don't go and assume I follow the trends and go by quadrant scores and stuff; I actually do the exact opposite example. The only reason why I'm using the amaze isn't because of the dual core processor. I actually got it for a really good deal on CL for $350 in mint condition. I jumped on it. But anyways It's just the small stuff I like about the amaze, especially the camera functionality, and the ridiculous 18mbps speed i hit from time to time. other than that, people shouldn't go out and jump and get an amaze right away. I told many not to bother because development is still in the baby stages and you should save your money until the price drops.
And do you know what computer im using right now?? an AMD64 X2 5000+ black edition. you remember those? lol
I don't even remember how we got into this mess, I wasn't vouching for dual cores, I agreed with everyone here LOL. I was just confused about your release dates tis all