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Ok so I bought a Captivate day 1 when it was released and it is a great phone dont get me wrong. but after coming from htc devices where the pace of development is so much faster than this i feel like moving on to something different. I like my captivate but i dont LOVE it. i am on the verge of trading my captivate for an HTC HD2..... i just kinda wanna know what you guys think? thanks so much and please dont stone me for this.
If you feel limited only due to the current software features of the Captivate, I would recommend you stick around - it is taking some time but soon enough there will be loads of development based around the Captivate and other Galaxy S phone models. Whether it be custom ROMS or OTA updates.
However, if you're restricted due to the lower 5MP camera without flash or another hardware limitation you may want to switch devices while yours is still high in value.
Colton5419 said:
If you feel limited only due to the current software features of the Captivate, I would recommend you stick around - it is taking some time but soon enough there will be loads of development based around the Captivate and other Galaxy S phone models. Whether it be custom ROMS or OTA updates.
However, if you're restricted due to the lower 5MP camera without flash or another hardware limitation you may want to switch devices while yours is still high in value.
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thanks for your response and i do agree that development will get better but im tired of waiting on samsung. htc is way more on top of things. and i like the 4.3 inch screen and the camera along with it's flash
freddieman23 said:
Don't waste your time with these second class phones. Get an iPhone and be proud and you will not regret it.
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i have had an iphone and it does not compare to android at all. android is a billion times better than iOS
freddieman23 said:
Don't waste your time with these second class phones. Get an iPhone and be proud and you will not regret it.
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LMAO, What's this guys problem? Steve is that you, in your beltless jeans and turtle neck??
On topic: The HD2 is nice, but the 1ghz Snapdragon is power hungry at 65nm and only delivers 35% of the graphics power of the 45nm Hummingbird (Easy to OC). The Captivates screen is better aswell (500,000:1 contrast!!!!), and it can support up to 50gigs over 32. (16 onboard, 32 Sd, and 2GB ROM = 50gb) I had the same choice to make, and The Galaxy S is a clear winner, unless you want winmo and android.
keeng james said:
LMAO, What's this guys problem? Steve is that you, in your beltless jeans and turtle neck??
On topic: The HD2 is nice, but the 1ghz Snapdragon is power hungry at 65nm and only delivers 35% of the graphics power of the 45nm Hummingbird (Easy to OC). The Captivates screen is better aswell (500,000:1 contrast!!!!), and it can support up to 50gigs over 32. (16 onboard, 32 Sd, and 2GB ROM = 50gb) I had the same choice to make, and The Galaxy S is a clear winner, unless you want winmo and android.
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thanks for your input! im still torn though haha the grass always looks greener on the other side. well i guess it looks greener on our screens but...
freddieman23 said:
Don't waste your time with these second class phones. Get an iPhone and be proud and you will not regret it.
Sent from my iPhone.
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omg!!! i think its time the admins here put a ban on this user for talking nothing abt the issue posted, but abt his iphone crap and trolling around.
Owner of both...
jesse_g said:
Ok so I bought a Captivate day 1 when it was released and it is a great phone dont get me wrong. but after coming from htc devices where the pace of development is so much faster than this i feel like moving on to something different. I like my captivate but i dont LOVE it. i am on the verge of trading my captivate for an HTC HD2..... i just kinda wanna know what you guys think? thanks so much and please dont stone me for this.
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Hi, I think we have the same problem, but when I decide to buy the captivate I've already own a HTC HD2. I love all the specs listed on the samsung captivate (located on AT&T's web page), but when finally got the captivate on my hands I've just couldn't let go my HTC HD2. I order to get more Android friendly, long before I received my captivate, I start to use froyo on the HTC HD2, love how it feels, but when I need to work with my devices, it all comes down to switch back to WM (may be because my life is ruled by microsoft). It's so hard for me to leave behind my HTC HD 2, that I still uses both phones (siwchting between froyo 2.1, Froyo Stone Sence HTC HD2 and WM). Last night I've instaled the latest update to my Captivate and here I'm giving the last chance to my samsung device to be up to the challenge. by the end of the week i'll give you a finall decition.
It honestly depends on your usage. I understand one of the bigger things I've noticed from this article is that you are shooting for a 4.3 inch screen. If you are shooting for a large screen phone (for watching hours and hours of youtube and movies) maybe the HD2 is best for you.
I've owned a good chunk of smartphones from the Aria to the Streak, and I've got to tell you...there's not alot that beats the Captivate. I watched the Expendables (HD quality rip) on my Captivate, and since that day...I don't think other phones compare at this point in that aspect.
Keep in mind the SAMOLED screen, the Video via 3.5 mm jack, and the Gorilla Glass and make your decision .
Just know that from what i've seen in my time here, XDA is with you 100% on whatever choice you make.
Thanks everyone for you input. I love my captivate but i did trade it for an HD2 and i love my HD2 so far. the screen is awesome but most of all i love the insanely large amount of roms available for it!
jesse_g said:
Thanks everyone for you input. I love my captivate but i did trade it for an HD2 and i love my HD2 so far. the screen is awesome but most of all i love the insanely large amount of roms available for it!
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Well, it's been out for 10 months.
So I'm getting the itch to get a new phone. I've currently got a Cliq that I've rooted and customized as I like it so I don't NEED a new phone. I just want one.
I'm with T-Mobile and my wife just recently got the Vibrant. In messing around with it, I think that without the Touch wiz, I'd be really happy with it. Which leads me to the Nexus S. The only reservation I have about the Nexus is the lack of SD card since I carry a ton of music with me for flights. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it does make me pause.
Does anyone know of any new phones that may be coming out within the next 3-4 months that may be better than the Nexus S?
Thanks
There is always something better around the corner...
But the main advantage to getting a stock Google Phone is that you will get OS updates much faster then everyone else with android skinned devices.
If you like android this is an excellent buy.
Yeah, I know that is a huge advantage to the Nexus line, but I also know that if there is a great phone out there, people will root it and develop for it.
Like I said, I don't "need" a new phone, and the only thing making me think twice is the lack of SD card for music and movie space. (I travel a lot so the less electronics I have to pack the better.) I'm just curious if it would be better for me to wait to buy one in a few months or take the plunge Thursday.
The thing about the Nexus S is that it's future proof, by that I mean so many phones out there will only get 2 updates and thats it. With the Nexus S you could keep it as long as you want because you know your going to continually get updates directly from Google.
Too many people pay attention to wether or not there is better hardware on the horizon when they really should pay attention to whether their software will continue to be updated and keep the device alive and youthful.
Google LG Star benchmarks
This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
Beatle405 said:
So I'm getting the itch to get a new phone. I've currently got a Cliq that I've rooted and customized as I like it so I don't NEED a new phone. I just want one.
I'm with T-Mobile and my wife just recently got the Vibrant. In messing around with it, I think that without the Touch wiz, I'd be really happy with it. Which leads me to the Nexus S. The only reservation I have about the Nexus is the lack of SD card since I carry a ton of music with me for flights. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it does make me pause.
Does anyone know of any new phones that may be coming out within the next 3-4 months that may be better than the Nexus S?
Thanks
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Wait till CES in January (6-9), there will be tons of new Android devices announced.
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This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
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Who truly needs a dual core cellphone though, honestly most people dont even need a dual core PC
To answer your actual question, the only two that have *strong* rumors that I've heard of, are the Evo Shift and the Playstation phone. As for the Shift, the current rumors don't put its specs as all that impressive (no front camera and snapdragon CPU). Supposedly we'll hear about the Playstation phone in February. I've read that its display is supposed to rival the iPhone 4's, whatever that is. In addition, there is a not so strong rumor that Samsung's next flagship will be in Q1. Which should definitely be better than the Nexus S in specs. Motorola is supposed to unveil some new hotness at CES. Probably actually launched late Q1 or after.
My guess is if you want a phone that clearly blows away the Nexus S, you'll be waiting until Q2 or Q3 of next year.
basically it comes down to this.
If your a t-mobile customer and are not going to leave anytime soon, then the Nexus S is the best phone for you.
If you don't mind leaving t-mobile, then wait because in 4-6 months verizon and sprint will probably both get dual core phones but it'll probably be 12 months for T-Mobile to get off their ass and get one. outside of the galaxy s 2, but thats touchwiz.
Also if you just want a stock android phone, then go for it as well because there won't be another one for a while.
Q2 or Q3 may be too long for me. I've read of the Playstation phone and it seems like it may be pretty cool, but I just don't know if I want to wait that long. Is it going to be unlocked to all carriers? I am in a 2 year contract with T-Mobile due to getting my wife a new phone, leaving is pretty much not an option.
More than likely my desire for a new phone will overtake my ability to wait and I'll be at a Best Buy Thursay morning before work.
Any chance they will add an SD card to the Nexus S in the near future???
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Q2 or Q3 may be too long for me. I've read of the Playstation phone and it seems like it may be pretty cool, but I just don't know if I want to wait that long. Is it going to be unlocked to all carriers? I am in a 2 year contract with T-Mobile due to getting my wife a new phone, leaving is pretty much not an option.
More than likely my desire for a new phone will overtake my ability to wait and I'll be at a Best Buy Thursay morning before work.
Any chance they will add an SD card to the Nexus S in the near future???
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no idea how the playstation phone carrier wise is going to work, hopefully it will be all carriers, but who knows.
Unfortountly it's safe to say that they will not be adding in an SD slot to the Nexus S. Between tons of apps to stream music and video, and the 13GB of storage that acts like an SD, it should be enough.
You could always buy the Nexus S then return it before the 30 days if they announce promising phones during CES. I'll be working the registration desk at CES so hopefully I have time to look around to play around with all the new phones and gagdets.
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So I'm getting the itch to get a new phone. I've currently got a Cliq that I've rooted and customized as I like it so I don't NEED a new phone. I just want one.
I'm with T-Mobile and my wife just recently got the Vibrant. In messing around with it, I think that without the Touch wiz, I'd be really happy with it. Which leads me to the Nexus S. The only reservation I have about the Nexus is the lack of SD card since I carry a ton of music with me for flights. It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it does make me pause.
Does anyone know of any new phones that may be coming out within the next 3-4 months that may be better than the Nexus S?
Thanks
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Within the next 3-4 months? Hmm.
And also, better? They may be competitors, depending on how you look at it.
There's the LG Star, Motorola Olympus, PlayStation Phone, Evo Shift, and possible Galaxy S 2. Not all of these are confirmed for next '3-4 months' and even then, they might not even be "better".
Sure, the LG Star packs a Tegra 2. Which, in all honesty, has a GPU which barely tops the Hummingbird. Tegra 2 is nothing to be too excited about. If you want a dual core, you want the dual core Snapdragon or the Orion. The Orion will most likely be the only one paired with a gorgeous Super Amoled which is unmatched but this is also preference. Even then, these may not be out for over 4 months.
Also you need to consider software. Generally, nothing runs faster than AOSP. Nor is as open nor fast to get updated. The Nexus One STILL holds its ground merely because it has Froyo when Galaxy S phones still don't. It may not be as powerful as fast, and it may be sluggish, but it's still "ahead" in a sense. This will probably be the case with the Nexus S and Honeycomb, with the exception that this thing has a friggin Hummingbird, which is theoretically capable of running Quake 3 Arena at 90fps with the 56 fps limit unlocked.
Don't get me wrong though, the Tegra 2 isn't BAD. But it isn't worth jumping the gun over a Hummingbird when the Snapdragon and Orion are around the corner to the Tegra 2. Tegra 2 and Hummingbird is like an 'either, or'. Don't let the Tegra 2 be your deciding factor. It's all about the carrier, the way the phone feels to you, and just personal preference in general. If you think the LG Star is hot, then that's what you should get. If you think the Nexus S is hot, then that's what you should get. They will probably perform about equal.
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The thing about the Nexus S is that it's future proof, by that I mean so many phones out there will only get 2 updates and thats it. With the Nexus S you could keep it as long as you want because you know your going to continually get updates directly from Google.
Too many people pay attention to wether or not there is better hardware on the horizon when they really should pay attention to whether their software will continue to be updated and keep the device alive and youthful.
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Couldn't have said it better.
siberslug said:
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This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
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Benchmarks shmenchmarks. My Nexus One stock outbenchmarks my Vibrant stock 2.2 in both Quadrant and Linpack but the Vibrant is way faster and way smoother. WAYYYY.
blix247 said:
To answer your actual question, the only two that have *strong* rumors that I've heard of, are the Evo Shift and the Playstation phone. As for the Shift, the current rumors don't put its specs as all that impressive (no front camera and snapdragon CPU). Supposedly we'll hear about the Playstation phone in February. I've read that its display is supposed to rival the iPhone 4's, whatever that is. In addition, there is a not so strong rumor that Samsung's next flagship will be in Q1. Which should definitely be better than the Nexus S in specs. Motorola is supposed to unveil some new hotness at CES. Probably actually launched late Q1 or after.
My guess is if you want a phone that clearly blows away the Nexus S, you'll be waiting until Q2 or Q3 of next year.
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The thing about the PlayStation Phone is that well, it's clunky and huge, and potentially ugly.
I'll tell everyone a secret android is all about software so even if someone puts out a quadcore phone that still won't let it get the newest updates any faster. After 2 years of owning stock android phones I have read thousands of posts of people complaining about why their super phone has yet to get the latest update. Even nexus users had a thread that was 5000 posts of them yelling at Google because 2.2 was a month late.
Sent from my Nexus One
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The only problem is that Android isn't built and optimized (yet) for more than one core. The dual core isn't going to be making a huge impact probably for another six months or more. If you are looking for a phone now, it sounds like the Nexus S is it.
I think this thread convinced me finally to get the NS
Are you guys sure you want a dual core phone? Because, you know, there are already rumors of a quad core phone coming out in 2012 or whatever. Might as well wait for it.
I'm on TMobile... I won't be waiting around. I'm grateful this phone is releasing because after that you got the MT4G's childish face looking you in the eye. And who knows how soon TMO will drop us another gem that competes w/ the NS.
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This will be the first true Dual-core proc phone and it blows everything away in the benchmarks.
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42fps nenamark + 67 fps neocore @ lg star... 1-8fps more for tegra in comparsion to hummingbird is way less then i thought and not worth an upgrade (yet) .... the difference between snapdragon and hunmingbird is much bigger regarding the gpu
Edit: getting 47.1fps on my sgs in nenamark... 59fps at neocore(seems to be limited to 59...) sooo where's the point in tegra2 anyway?
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Hey mklgee, you mentioned buying the Nexus S and then returning within 30 days. Is this an option Best Buy does with smartphones? If so, that is an interesting idea if something does pop up soon after the Nexus release.
After reading these discussions, I think I will just go ahead and get the Nexus S on Thursday. I do wish it had an SD card though. I currently have a 16gb SD card in my Cliq that is filled with music, pics, and app info. I just hope a phone doesn't come out say in April that is so much better to make me remourseful.
Thanks for the discussion points guys.
Beatle405 said:
Hey mklgee, you mentioned buying the Nexus S and then returning within 30 days. Is this an option Best Buy does with smartphones? If so, that is an interesting idea if something does pop up soon after the Nexus release.
After reading these discussions, I think I will just go ahead and get the Nexus S on Thursday. I do wish it had an SD card though. I currently have a 16gb SD card in my Cliq that is filled with music, pics, and app info. I just hope a phone doesn't come out say in April that is so much better to make me remourseful.
Thanks for the discussion points guys.
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Most stores have 30 day return policies generally. They may charge restocking fees. Look it up
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/23/lg-optimus-2x-dual-core-android-phone-hits-europe-in-january-pe/
the Dual Core Phone is coming in less than 1 month. if anything it sounds like LG wants to kill the nexus S before it gets a chance.
Today you have the option to buy Nexus S. or Pre order the Dual Core phone with Tegra 2 GPU for max gaming perforamnce along with better camera and an SD card option and 1080p video recording capability
downside its 2.2 and unless it gets rooted early, 2.3 will take a while to be out.
seriously . i didnt know that they would release it so soon.
I do not particularly like LG at all, so I'll pass until someone else looses a dual-core into the wild.
No thanks. I'll be sticking with the nexus until the end of next year when a Dual-Core N3 is announced.
I like my updates a lot, tyvm
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I do not particularly like LG at all, so I'll pass until someone else looses a dual-core into the wild.
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normally i would agree with you. if you give me an LG phone for free. i wouldnt take it. its LG. but god damn i am really thinking of this one. the specs is out of this world
Tegra 2 is 'that' much powerful than Hummingbird ?
LG branded things for me is last resort after Thompson xD
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
normally i would agree with you. if you give me an LG phone for free. i wouldnt take it. its LG. but god damn i am really thinking of this one. the specs is out of this world
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Yeah, I agree the phone SEEMS like it's going to be absolutely amazing, and it very well may be. But I don't want to wait for updates and/or devs to get the latest and greatest software.
And as someone else said, I'll wait for the Nexus 3 or whatever it will be called.
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Tegra 2 is 'that' much powerful than Hummingbird ?
LG branded things for me is last resort after Thompson xD
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Yes its much more powerful. its from Nvidia after all
and i agree i hate the LG branding too.
No question the Tegra 2 device is the lastest and greatest based on dual chip solely. Its a monument release despite launching with 2.2. I'm not a gamer so that aspect doesn't interest me at all. I always keep two devices (1)cdma (2)gsm, for geek reasons. I really want to get both devices in my hand, then make a decision. We all know it will be the Tegra 2 device.
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Nah i hoped for 30-40% more power ... there is no need to take this over future Orion based phones.
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage...he-Test-Deemed-Faster-Than-Hummingbird-4.png/
BTW. I lost hopes in NV after huge fail in dedicated PS3 GPU.
I'm not a massive fan of LG phones, even if the specs are good. Bearing in mind I've still not decided on an NS yet. I think it's a good step though, as someone has to push the dual core tech forward. When Samsung (which I have nothing against) or HTC start pushing the tech in their own form, whether it's Tegra, Orion or something from Qualcomm, I'll be more excited
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No, had a Galaxy S and hated waiting for updates, and not knowing if it would be updated.
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No, had a Galaxy S and hated waiting for updates, and not knowing if it would be updated.
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Just flassshhh ... xD They need to update TouchWizz and any other software so wait in patience
Somebody know what is top LG android phone right now available in market ?
Only time will tell whether the Opt 2X is worth it. Which is why I say this is a brink in mobile technology -- the standard is changing. Nexus S represents generally the best of an era that is ending (era of single core, 3G, etc). It might be worth waiting to some. No one can tell (meaning, not people who praise dual-core, or people who try to say dual-core is useless/wouldn't get first dual-core, etc.) for now.
As for the direct/clean Google updates, there are ways to work around that with other phones (flashing ROMs, etc.). If the Opt 2X succeeds, you can be sure the dev. community will be supporting the device with those sorts of specs.
But again, time will tell. I want to get (and like) the Nexus S as much as the next guy, but I'm waiting a bit. If the rumors are true, and that dual-cores will come early 2011, the wait is not far off. Also, the slew of issues the Nexus S seems to be having (a quick glance at the threads here will show tons of concerns) is serving as a huge deterrent. I actually like Samsung products, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that Google/Sammy rushed the Nexus S out.
Can you name 1 game, no strike that, 1 APP that doesn't run flawlessly on the Nexus S already? Honestly, having a more powerful processor is not the answer, the software is what needs work and it has been that way for over a year.
Software has been lacking while hardware keeps improving, which is why we're still stuck in 2006 when it comes to game development.
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Can you name 1 game, no strike that, 1 APP that doesn't run flawlessly on the Nexus S already? Honestly, having a more powerful processor is not the answer, the software is what needs work and it has been that way for over a year.
Software has been lacking while hardware keeps improving, which is why we're still stuck in 2006 when it comes to game development.
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people said the same thing when Nexus 1 was out then Galaxy S was released. they all run the same things. it just it runs better on Galaxy S.
and i assume the same thing will happen for future games for example.
its not just the aps. the thing has HDMI out to play video and games on ur TV. it plays videos at 1080P. it RECORD videos at 1080 and a better GPU . its just all rounder a better specs phone. and its less than 1 month away.
I'm just waiting for a phone that has a 4.3" screen that is smaller than the size of the Nexus S. Phones have way too much useless glass/plastic around the screen that serve no purpose. Performance I could care less, they all work fine for me. Hell, I thought the HTC Aria was pretty snappy when I had it.
Can you provide a link that proves it has a SAMOLED screen?
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plus it also had the super amoled screen. and a better GPU . its just all rounder a better specs phone. and its less than 1 month away.
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Can you provide a link that proves it has a SAMOLED screen?
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+1
if have also the SAmoled, I'll buy it without hesitation when it comes out, if not samsung has a sgs2 with t2 etc. soon...
if 2x Optimus had a screen of 4.3 or 4.5 samold, and would be perfect grrr
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Forgive me for being offtopic for a moment, but I must ask, why are you here on these forums? Most of the posts I see from you are "LOL NEXUS S SUX!!!1!!11!" so I have to ask. Are you trying to convince people that they made a bad purchase and whatever phone you're currently using is better? Not trying to start a flamewar, merely curious about your intentions.
As far as your question regarding LG Optimus 2X, my answer is no. It runs what looks like a TouchWiz derivative and I detest TouchWiz. Its not that I hate all layovers, it's that I hate ugly/cartoony layovers. I don't mind SenseUI at all and actually wish that Google would incorporate some of their widgets into stock Android. And, personally, I don't understand the complaint about the lack of a microsd card on the Nexus S. Is 16gbs not enough? It is for me. Then again, I'm a guy who's had the same computer for the last two years and just barely made it halfway through the 500gb hard drive.
Dual-core processors are definitely the future, but nothing out there right now is optimized to take advantage of it and it will be some time before they do. Would today's apps run better? Probably. Would they run better to justify purchasing another phone? Not for me, yet. Also the 1080p video recording is neat, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've used the camcorder feature. Further, who the heck is gonna play phone games on their TVs? lol I can't imagine trying to play Angry Birds on a 42" screen.
On the topic of the screen, a quick googling of the specs seems to pull up it's just a TFT normal LCD screen like the MT4G, EVO, or Droid series. There was a picture LG sent to Phandroid showing their screen to be better than SAMOLED/Retina, but it was a photoshopped image made to generate buzz.
no not going to buy, because there is currently is no real world advantage to have a Dual Core phone. Hell most people dont even have dual core PCs
Looking to upgrade from my Tilt2; (exchange email/calender/contacts auto-sync is important). Also important, GPS, phone usage(lol), internet browsing, typing for texting, and emails. Camera.
My initial choices (carrier ATT)
Infuse 4g (4.5")
Galaxy sgII 4g and dual core processor, and android 2.3(4.3")
` - after September 18th for AT&T I hear
or wait for a future phone:
I.E.
Nexus Prime? (October? worth the wait? and why?),
Google?,
HTC Titan (windows O.S.)?,
Other's on the near Horizon?;
etc.
I'm not an Apple person, lolol.
I don't want to bite the bullet on yesterdays technology if something is 2-3 months away (since I will wait 2 years for another upgrade); I don't believe LTE will take hold until another year or two anyway, so that will be a good time to upgrade again.
Any insight or opinions are appreciated.
First off, someone can't tell you the best phone to get. Everyone is different and sees things differently. One thing that you see necessary and better than something else, could very well be a different view than someone else has. That's why carriers make different phones. Not everyone will like, for example, Sammy's Galaxy Note, so they also released other phones around the same time.
If you're on Verizon, I'd say wait. The Bionic is out today, but you should wait until the Primes(Droid or Nexus) and the Vigor, and maybe the Titan come out. Then you'll be able to make a fair decision since you can actually test out the phone, see what type of dev support it has here, etc.
Best way to find the best phone for YOU is to go out and try them.
Yes, per my post it is AT&T for the carrier.
Of those devices you listed do you know that they are coming out for ATT and when?
Next, asthetics are less critical than functionality to me. Nonetheless I have big hands, and as I mentioned I use a tilt2, and although once I've narrowed this down I will go put the final contenders in my hand. I'm not going to waste my time doing that until I've got a list of devices narrowed down based on performance and functionality. (besides the dealers don't seem to know much about the devices, which is my I'm posting here!!!) Lastly, most all of the objectives I have for evaluating performance and function cannot be tested in the store... and there would not be enough time in the store if I could, lol. This is where research comes into play.
All opinions welcome thanks for sharing your preferences!!!
For AT&T, the Galaxy S 2 appears to be the absolute best phone coming in the next 3 months. The Infuse, if it were updated to Android Gingerbread, would be just as good...maybe better because of the larger display.
I am not exactly sure when the Galaxy S 2 comes out, if its in the next 3 months, i would get it. That is my opinion, I am using the Galaxy S, so i kind of have a biased opinion. The phone is great, it has its flaws though, as does every other device on the market. Overall though, it is a great device and i know the Galaxy S 2 will only be better.
Thanks for the input, yes, I was surprised to see that the newer phone drops from 4.5 to 4.3", but the hardware and software are better on paper.
Supposedly the GS2 comes out after Sept 18th, even if it turns out to be Mid October that is soon enough for me. I'll go put one in my hand in October, and see what the latest news is for November/December and make my "final answer".
I really want a GS2 but im not sure if my cellular company is even going to get the GS2, if they do, it will be one with less features. I hope helped you like you were looking for, I cant wait to see what others suggest, hopefully some good ones.
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Yes, per my post it is AT&T for the carrier.
Of those devices you listed do you know that they are coming out for ATT and when?
Next, asthetics are less critical than functionality to me. Nonetheless I have big hands, and as I mentioned I use a tilt2, and although once I've narrowed this down I will go put the final contenders in my hand. I'm not going to waste my time doing that until I've got a list of devices narrowed down based on performance and functionality. (besides the dealers don't seem to know much about the devices, which is my I'm posting here!!!) Lastly, most all of the objectives I have for evaluating performance and function cannot be tested in the store... and there would not be enough time in the store if I could, lol. This is where research comes into play.
All opinions welcome thanks for sharing your preferences!!!
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Oh couldn't tell since you mentioned Verizon smart phones. The Vigor will probably have a AT&T counterpart...may be later down the line though. Seems like HTC likes to keep similar phones on all 4 carriers.
best get the iphone 5
Palm Treo, they're very reliable and offer a wide range of modern features..Though not as appealing as a iPhone 5 or Optimus or Prime, it's still quite the contender. The Palm OS contains features for the business person and many good classic games like PacMan or Tetris. Hope this post gives you an insight on the best phone for you.
-Ace
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Palm Treo, they're very reliable and offer a wide range of modern features..Though not as appealing as a iPhone 5 or Optimus or Prime, it's still quite the contender. The Palm OS contains features for the business person and many good classic games like PacMan or Tetris. Hope this post gives you an insight on the best phone for you.
-Ace
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Lol? Are you serious?
SwiftLegend said:
Lol? Are you serious?
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What's wrong with offering my honest opinion? He did say the best phone, and I gave him a top notch choice . The treo can hold its ground against the scary iPhone 5G or any fancy dual core device, it does feature 3D accelerated graphics, which is also avail on iPhone, making these very similar in specs.
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What's wrong with offering my honest opinion? He did say the best phone, and I gave him a top notch choice . The treo can hold its ground against the scary iPhone 5G or any fancy dual core device, it does feature 3D accelerated graphics, which is also avail on iPhone, making these very similar in specs.
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pffff roflmfao lolol
I will vote for the Galaxy S series for a new phone!
I'd wait for the Prime, or for some Tegra 3 phones.
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nexus prime. no question. coming mid to late october.
aohus said:
nexus prime. no question. coming mid to late october.
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Hmm, is there an AT&T launch date? any specs released?
edit: latest info I have found... I can't believe it is really a month from launch and no specs are confirmed... weird.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/09/08/rumored-nexus-prime-specs-leak-out-curve-4-65-hd-screen/
final conclusion, there should be 3-4 big smart phone releases, but likely not all will be out until beginning to mid of November. So I'm going to wait to find out more about all of their specs once released, as well as put a few of them in my hand once they hit stores.
I think for me the main choices will be between the HTC Titan, the GS2, and the Nexus Prime (or whatever name it finally has); If I wasn't so anti-apple, the Iphone5 will also be a contender and should be released within a month.
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final conclusion, there should be 3-4 big smart phone releases, but likely not all will be out until beginning to mid of November. So I'm going to wait to find out more about all of their specs once released, as well as put a few of them in my hand once they hit stores.
I think for me the main choices will be between the HTC Titan, the GS2, and the Nexus Prime (or whatever name it finally has); If I wasn't so anti-apple, the Iphone5 will also be a contender and should be released within a month.
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everyone here will say gs2 but i'd couldnt argue
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
+1
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PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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+1 on the trackpad... lol who's idea WAS that???
Totally agree with you. The Mytouch 4g is my first smartphone so I never had anything to compare it to, and I've looked at a few of these new "power" phones and the more I see them the more I realize there aren't many phones that I would be happy with coming from the mytouch. It really is a great phone. And all the development that is being done on it only makes it better. I really couldn't ask for a better phone.
although i have an amaze now and i agree, the mt4g is a beastly single core phone. I loved it's design. But are you serious about reaching for the notification bar? Lol it's less then half an inch bigger vertically than the mt4g unless you have small hands then yes that may be problems for some lol.
However, it's not the screen that's annoying but the overall design of the phone.. Such as the spaces above and below the screen is so God dam wide and useless. It's like half an inch on top and full inch on the bottom.
Btw the dual core actually saves battery life because it uses less energy.
And agreed the speed is not a huge difference especially to those who don't do much with their phones. But i noticed many small things that i like especially the camera.
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+1
As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Alenamari said:
+1
As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
Teo032 said:
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
saranhai said:
and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
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Well, take that MIUI M1 phone for instance: $300-something isn't half bad for such machine, it would cost twice as much in the US easily.
PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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Gotta say I agree... Love my myTouch 4g!
Teo032 said:
Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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Alenamari said:
Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
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Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
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Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
but yeah Im also sticking with my MT4G as I see no real reason for me to upgrade just yet. this is my first android smartphone and I have no complaints/issues at all...even if I did I already solved them by searching xda. although other devices look appealing, spec-wise I have no reason to get a newer phone that will just get outdone(maybe?) in another 3 months or so
I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
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I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
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lol i really hate the "Mytouch" name...
which genius came up with that??
it makes the Glacier sound cheap and a "iPhone copycat" even though it's far from that...
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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
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Shhh "THEY" are watching...
I'm new to the MyTouch 4g, I've only had it for 24 hours or so, but I have to say that I like the phone more than I thought I would. I'm primarily a Nexus One/Nexus S user, but the MyTouch compares nicely to the Nexus One. Rooting was easy, and the phone feels much faster than many newer generation phones. Using physical buttons takes some getting use to, but overall I think it's one of the best purchases I've made in a while. Strangely enough I purchased it primarily to use in Europe/Spain, so it'll be interesting to see how it holds up to that task.
whoa whoa whoa hold on there cowboy, i never said you weren't here for a long time. I just had the notion that you were, but I was confused by your post count, hence the, you Speak as if you've been here for a long time, not, You ACT as if you've been here longer than i have blah blah blah (lol). And that you have been. I'm not questioning your credibility or anything oh mighty one (lol) I completely agree with you on every aspect that the mt4g is an awesome phone, trust me on that I still have one that i mess around with thats why I still frequent this section.
I wasn't attacking your posts or anything. Like i said, i was confused on the way you stated things and how YOUR release dates of phones didn't match the official release dates. Thanks for clearing that up btw... any hookups haha jk.
But don't go and assume I follow the trends and go by quadrant scores and stuff; I actually do the exact opposite example. The only reason why I'm using the amaze isn't because of the dual core processor. I actually got it for a really good deal on CL for $350 in mint condition. I jumped on it. But anyways It's just the small stuff I like about the amaze, especially the camera functionality, and the ridiculous 18mbps speed i hit from time to time. other than that, people shouldn't go out and jump and get an amaze right away. I told many not to bother because development is still in the baby stages and you should save your money until the price drops.
And do you know what computer im using right now?? an AMD64 X2 5000+ black edition. you remember those? lol
I don't even remember how we got into this mess, I wasn't vouching for dual cores, I agreed with everyone here LOL. I was just confused about your release dates tis all