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Ahh, nice to be back on XDA... I was a former poster when I used to own the HTC Tilt and the older version of it, then I switch to Blackberry Bold. And now switching to Android and what better way to look for info about rooting but right here on XDA. Well to my question, I get different responses from ATT reps saying I can grandfather the unlim. and some says it has to be from BB to BB for it to be grandfathered. Question is which one is true? Really want this phone and would very much like to keep the unlim. data.
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Ahh, nice to be back on XDA... I was a former poster when I used to own the HTC Tilt and the older version of it, then I switch to Blackberry Bold. And now switching to Android and what better way to look for info about rooting but right here on XDA. Well to my question, I get different responses from ATT reps saying I can grandfather the unlim. and some says it has to be from BB to BB for it to be grandfathered. Question is which one is true? Really want this phone and would very much like to keep the unlim. data.
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Trust me you will be able to keep you unlimited data plan. In the system when they upgrade you they have the option to select unlimited PDA plan. Just make sure they keep it for you.
Anytime you go from Smartphone to smartphone with AT&T you still will be able to keep your unlimited data plan.
Would it still be grandfathered if you bought it off contract?
I just sold my bold 9700 and this will be my first android phone. I called in to the att rep to unregister my blackberry pin from the bis service and was told I should be grandfathered because I'm going from one unlimited data to another unlimited data. I will be also buying this at full price.
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I just sold my bold 9700 and this will be my first android phone. I called in to the att rep to unregister my blackberry pin from the bis service and was told I should be grandfathered because I'm going from one unlimited data to another unlimited data. I will be also buying this at full price.
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What did they say? Did they let you?
You will be fine. I have switched my unlimited data from iPhone to Blackberry to nothing and back various times and have not had any problems doing so. I am lucky to have been grandfathered in. 200mb just seems like a limit and I do not like it.
just make absolutely certain and have the rep read your plan back to you after the swap to make sure he swapped ur bb unlimited to a reg unlimited.
Thanks guys. I'll update you once I made the switch.
I read somewhere a person may NOT be grandfathered in if they purchase from other than AT&T. Anyone know if that is true?
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I read somewhere a person may NOT be grandfathered in if they purchase from other than AT&T. Anyone know if that is true?
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This is not true because either way you have the option to simply renew your current plan with AT&T (if you purchase a phone elsewhere) and then change your data plan to android (which will be unlimited assuming you are grandfathered in).
Now if you mean purchasing the phone from lets say Radio Shack under an AT&T contract you will still get the same benefits if you purchased from an AT&T store.
I checked multiple AT&T store today and spoke with the manager(s). Yes, if you have been grandfathered into unlimited data, this carries over to ANY future cell phone as long as you stay with AT&T. Samsung Captivate included.
They said that you would have the option of downgrading to a 2gb max WITH tethering (they weren't sure if the captivate supported it yet but obviously the iphone does). This isn't an issue though because the damn thing will be rooted and I'll tether with it without their knowledge.
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What did they say? Did they let you?
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They said they going to leave my blackberry data plan on there until I make the switch. When I actually have the phone in my hands I just give them a call to switch over to another unlimited data plan.
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I read somewhere a person may NOT be grandfathered in if they purchase from other than AT&T. Anyone know if that is true?
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Not true, as long as they remain your carrier, they don't care where your phone came from.
I'm also coming from the tilt, then fuze, then had a bb 9700 for awhile, and now getting the captivate I am in iraq though and my service has been suspended, they just re-did all my stuff over the phone and I told the lady I had an unlimited plan for itnernet, and she read it back as unlimited to me. If I hit limits (I tether my phones ALOT usually) then I will call and demand it be fixed, or ATT loses my contract for breaching it.
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I'm also coming from the tilt, then fuze, then had a bb 9700 for awhile, and now getting the captivate I am in iraq though and my service has been suspended, they just re-did all my stuff over the phone and I told the lady I had an unlimited plan for itnernet, and she read it back as unlimited to me. If I hit limits (I tether my phones ALOT usually) then I will call and demand it be fixed, or ATT loses my contract for breaching it.
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keep in mind that the att unlimited is still capped at 5 gigs even though its name implies otherwise. still, u should be fine.
systoxity said:
keep in mind that the att unlimited is still capped at 5 gigs even though its name implies otherwise. still, u should be fine.
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The unlimited plan is not capped whatsoever.
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The unlimited plan is not capped whatsoever.
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i rescind my comment. I've done further research into the matter and lots of controversy surrounds ATT & their 5 gb limit. I won't open that can of worms here. Just be careful, if u go over 5 gb and tether w/o a tether plan. bad things may or may not happen.
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agreed im pretty show my bill says more then that, plus the dude at att said i came keep my unlimited plan and he'll put the unlimited plan on the other phone line . it just who you talk to
note he was the manager , first time i meet the dude...
When I got my iP4 coming from a BB, i was able to keep my unlimited, now that im prolly going to be returning the iP4 i hope they should be able to keep my UNL.
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Would it still be grandfathered if you bought it off contract?
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I just sold my bold 9700 and this will be my first android phone. I called in to the att rep to unregister my blackberry pin from the bis service and was told I should be grandfathered because I'm going from one unlimited data to another unlimited data. I will be also buying this at full price.
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I read somewhere a person may NOT be grandfathered in if they purchase from other than AT&T. Anyone know if that is true?
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keep in mind that the att unlimited is still capped at 5 gigs even though its name implies otherwise. still, u should be fine.
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No matter if it's off contract of not you will still be able to keep your unlimited data plan. Trust me on that ;-)
Even if the phone is purchased from a another AT&T retailer you will be fine.
Also there is no cap the unlimited data plan.
Checked it this morning just to see what I was at. 16k, 18k afternoon, now 21k mb with six hours left in the day. All the moaning about the death star, I stay with em for a reason.
This is insane, haha
How the hell did you use 21 gigabytes in 3 days.
Also, people like you ruined the unlimited data for the rest of us.
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How the hell did you use 21 gigabytes in 3 days.
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I really have no clue. It normally takes me bout a week or two.
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...wow
YOU ARE A BOSS.
I'd say you should be punished, but living in Denton seems punishment enough.
Miami_Son said:
I'd say you should be punished, but living in Denton seems punishment enough.
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Denton, Tx?
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boborone said:
Denton, Tx?
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Yeah, I've been there several times. No envy here.
Miami_Son said:
Yeah, I've been there several times. No envy here.
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I live in Frisco right now but will always claim the pot smoking hippy town of Denton. I miss it.
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Not throttled because you grandfathered in the Unlimited Data plan before they capped it a few months ago. Next time you re-up you will probably be forced to sign a limited data plan contract
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Not throttled because you grandfathered in the Unlimited Data plan before they capped it a few months ago. Next time you re-up you will probably be forced to sign a limited data plan contract
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Nope...as long as he doesn't get rid of the plan he will be fine. But the rest of us are stuck with 2GB max. I only pay for the 200mb because I am too cheap to get the 2GB. I prefer wifi anyway because it is faster.
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Not throttled because you grandfathered in the Unlimited Data plan before they capped it a few months ago. Next time you re-up you will probably be forced to sign a limited data plan contract
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Flashman is correct. Plus throttling refers to bumping someone down to a slower network like 2g. Tmo has a 5 gig cap on unlimited before they slow you down.
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Understand throttling now?
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I re-upped my contract when I got this phone and they didn't take away my unlimited data.
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boborone said:
Understand throttling now?
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Those numbers look Photoshopped.
Miami_Son said:
Those numbers look Photoshopped.
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better
hows that
wifi tethered to laptop
Miami_Son said:
Those numbers look Photoshopped.
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wow now I'm on my computer they do look funny, kinda fuzzy pic with clear as day numbers
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Nope...as long as he doesn't get rid of the plan he will be fine. But the rest of us are stuck with 2GB max. I only pay for the 200mb because I am too cheap to get the 2GB. I prefer wifi anyway because it is faster.
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keep thinking that , unlimited is going away for everyone sooner than you think, mainly because of people like the op
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shoefly said:
keep thinking that , unlimited is going away for everyone sooner than you think, mainly because of people like the op
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There are people on hear that still have the $15 unlimited data. It's in the contract, all you are doing is renewing the contract. Extending it. I was hitting 10 gb on my razr2 feature phone way back when I first signed up. Got a fuze and had to switch to smartphone unlimited. On the fuze, I averaged about 40 gigs. Only way it's changing is if they charge for 4g like sprint. Which I'll gladly do.
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That's how I saw them.
I received my Sensation yesterday and found that the data wasn't working. There is a $10 charge per month charge for 4g going from an HD2 to a Sensation.
What was your previous plan?
I did not have to do this. I came from HD2 with android on it. They said: "oh cool we prefer the HD2 like that too. So you have android already." Me: "aha I do."
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I received my Sensation yesterday and found that the data wasn't working. There is a $10 charge per month charge for 4g going from an HD2 to a Sensation.
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if you already had a "data plan" there is no extra charge... just call and make sure they add the "android" service which is free...
you'll need to change to an android approved plan. tmobile has probably already flagged your IMEI to not work. you can test this by putting your SIM card in your HD2 & seeing if that works. If it does on the HD2 & not on the Sensation then the IMEI is blocked.
Every other person on this forum who was running a grandfathered data plan has had to "upgrade" as well.
...I haven't. I'm still using an old SunCom 15USD data plan and I get data on the Sensation.
ashasaur said:
...I haven't. I'm still using an old SunCom 15USD data plan and I get data on the Sensation.
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you lucky SOB
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you lucky SOB
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No kidding. I even had to use the new SIM. Mine was still voicestream. I got HSPA+ on my HD2 though. Sucks that I have to pay more per month now.
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Every other person on this forum who was running a grandfathered data plan has had to "upgrade" as well.
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Not true. I didn't have to. I came from the hd2 and had no trouble.
I'm grandfathered in to a 3 year old data plan with a discount making it $17 month.
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Not true. I didn't have to. I came from the hd2 and had no trouble.
I'm grandfathered in to a 3 year old data plan with a discount making it $17 month.
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I didn't upgrade either, still have my grandfathered G1 unlimited plan @ $20 a month. (they're all capped at 5 even if its "unlimited")
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No kidding. I even had to use the new SIM. Mine was still voicestream. I got HSPA+ on my HD2 though. Sucks that I have to pay more per month now.
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What do you mean you have to pay more now? My HD2 on the original Total Internet plan got HSPA as well
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Not true. I didn't have to. I came from the hd2 and had no trouble.
I'm grandfathered in to a 3 year old data plan with a discount making it $17 month.
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What's the name of your plan?
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I didn't upgrade either, still have my grandfathered G1 unlimited plan @ $20 a month. (they're all capped at 5 even if its "umlimited")
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If it's from a G1 it's probably already an Android plan
I don't know if it's an american thing, but it's scanadlous to charge more for the same data just because of your operating system. i'm glad so far i've not had a contract that specifies what phone can use what data. (without trying to start a flamewar) I think the only time i've ever seen that happen here is when iphone came out and everyone had specific iphone plans as all of a sudden the networks thought everyone was only then going to start using internet on their phones.
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I don't know if it's an american thing, but it's scanadlous to charge more for the same data just because of your operating system. i'm glad so far i've not had a contract that specifies what phone can use what data. (without trying to start a flamewar) I think the only time i've ever seen that happen here is when iphone came out and everyone had specific iphone plans as all of a sudden the networks thought everyone was only then going to start using internet on their phones.
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Well with T-Mobile there are separate data plans for blackberry and Android
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What's the name of your plan?
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Not offered to the public plan? But my data plan is just the old unlimited $20 month one with a $3 discount for something not pertaining to this thread.
But after a few hours last night. My data no longer works. I'm gonna have to call them today.
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Not offered to the public plan? But my data plan is just the old unlimited $20 month one with a $3 discount for something not pertaining to this thread.
But after a few hours last night. My data no longer works. I'm gonna have to call them today.
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I also came from a Hd2 my data stopped working I called 4 times and was told my Total web data plan would work. Finally I got a CSR who said I would need a Android plan and I would need to pay $5 more I demanded a supervisor 5mins later CSR came back told me they switched me to Android plan and kept the price the same. Moral of the story don't take there crap and demand the android plan with no price change .
I think it's safe to assume that tmobile will catch most if not all people that are on non android plans with this phone & force them to change over
I came from HD2 as well. You will get data at HSPA not HSPA+ until you either upgrade or they block your imei.
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I also came from an HD2 and had to switch plans. I still pay the same $24.99, but learned it has a 2GB cap instead of the 5GB cap. But, I may switch to the $30 plan if needed and the $5 wouldn't kill me.
Yeah, I had an unlimited BlackBerry plan and I was forced to switch over to the 5 GB Android plan for the internet to work. Oh well.
Any tips?
I'm migrating from an HD2 (running Android) to a Sensation. Any tips on swapping data? I know I can do contacts and such through Google Sync, but what do you think is the best way to switch over photos and text messages?
Any tips would be appreciated..
Thanks much.
Did anyone else get this recently? I renewed my plan and today my data was blocked... I was redirected to the T-mobile upsell page saying that I do not have a data plan but I jsut renewed the $30 prepaid plan with 5GB of 4G Data and 100 Mins. I noticed that this happened to several people during November-December.
I called their tech supported and they didn't really provide me with a solution so they escalated the problem.
A few people got their issue resolved but never posted an actual solution so I am guessing that there is some glitch in their system...
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Did anyone else get this recently? I renewed my plan and today my data was blocked... I was redirected to the T-mobile upsell page saying that I do not have a data plan but I jsut renewed the $30 prepaid plan with 5GB of 4G Data and 100 Mins. I noticed that this happened to several people during November-December.
I called their tech supported and they didn't really provide me with a solution so they escalated the problem.
A few people got their issue resolved but never posted an actual solution so I am guessing that there is some glitch in their system...
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Hearsay but I've seen here that it can take several hours for a payment to result in full service restoration.
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happened to me once, i called tmobile and they fixed it.
thank you guys so much for the replies. i feel reassured now
lets hope they dont take a week to fix because i can't live without XDA for a day!!!
btw @simms22, how long did it take for them to restore your data service? i hope it doesn't take a week. they escalated my ticket and i am hoping for them to call me back tomorrow
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thank you guys so much for the replies. i feel reassured now
lets hope they dont take a week to fix because i can't live without XDA for a day!!!
btw @simms22, how long did it take for them to restore your data service? i hope it doesn't take a week. they escalated my ticket and i am hoping for them to call me back tomorrow
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10-15 minutes. they ended up cancelling my plan then added my plan back.
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10-15 minutes. they ended up cancelling my plan then added my plan back.
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interesting.. for me, when i renewed my plan, the data was supposed to be set back to 0GB but it still showing the data usage from last month (~2GB). If the tech support does call me back tomorrow I will ask them to cancel my data plan (or entire plan) and reinstate it.
another weird thing is that since I renewed my plan, my funds stayed the same. I had ~$34 a few days ago so I added a $100 prepaid card to my account last night. it should have deducted $30 today but it's still showing ~$134 in my account
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interesting.. for me, when i renewed my plan, the data was supposed to be set back to 0GB but it still showing the data usage from last month (~2GB). If the tech support does call me back tomorrow I will ask them to cancel my data plan (or entire plan) and reinstate it.
another weird thing is that since I renewed my plan, my funds stayed the same. I had ~$34 a few days ago so I added a $100 prepaid card to my account last night. it should have deducted $30 today but it's still showing ~$134 in my account
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THIS might be the problem. Later tonight if nothing has changed online, try to re-up again. TMO CSR's can return your money if you unlikely end up with 2 payments.
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THIS might be the problem. Later tonight if nothing has changed online, try to re-up again. TMO CSR's can return your money if you unlikely end up with 2 payments.
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thank you! will try later tonight and report if anything changes.
Verizon to throttle 4G LTE users with unlimited plans starting October .
http://www.androidauthority.com/verizon-throttle-4g-lte-users-starting-october-1-409934/
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I wonder if this affects current on contract unlimited data.
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I wonder if this affects current on contract unlimited data.
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At this point there aren't many if any on contract Unlimited data plans, as they stopped offering unlimited 3 years ago.
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At this point there aren't many if any on contract Unlimited data plans, as they stopped offering unlimited 3 years ago.
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That's not true. There's a fairly well-known loophole of using alternate upgrades to keep unlimited data and extend your contract. I've successfully done it three times now. The last time was in April when I got my M8. I have unlimited data and my contract expiration date is 04/07/2016. :good:
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That's not true. There's a fairly well-known loophole of using alternate upgrades to keep unlimited data and extend your contract. I've successfully done it three times now. The last time was in April when I got my M8. I have unlimited data and my contract expiration date is 04/07/2016. :good:
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This... So we shouldn't get affected then ?
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This... So we shouldn't get affected then ?
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Technically, according to the conditions of the list, we should be fine. One of the conditions is "Have fulfilled their minimum contract term". This is Big Red we're talking about here, though, so you never know. I hope T-Mobile steps up their coverage game in my area soon. I'm sure they will welcome me with open arms when Big Red forces me to get rid of my old voice plan and unlimited data.
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Technically, according to the conditions of the list, we should be fine. One of the conditions is "Have fulfilled their minimum contract term". This is Big Red we're talking about here, though, so you never know. I hope T-Mobile steps up their coverage game in my area soon. I'm sure they will welcome me with open arms when Big Red forces me to get rid of my old voice plan and unlimited data.
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I was hoping tmobile picks up where I am.. I'd jump in a heart beat.
Switch to T-Mobile
I'm switching to T-Mobile soon - I tether a lot so having unlimited is nice and there is more development for T-Mobile/AT&T editions. I would get throttled with unlimited on both networks so why not pay less?
Better reception more reliable network... More coverage. For me I travel so its nice to know I have data and my kids are able to tether for games and videos. Just my 2ยข often worth less to others lol.
The OP left out one important little detail: Only the top 5% of data hogs get throttled. Those that use more than 4.7GB/month.
I'm ok with that.
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The OP left out one important little detail: Only the top 5% of data hogs get throttled. Those that use more than 4.7GB/month.
I'm ok with that.
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4.7GB? Seriously? lol
Can anyone confirm the state of Verizon HTC One M8s that have switched to TMobile?
I assume by "everything" they literally mean, everything--calls, WiFi, 4G--or does the 4G only apply to "refarmed" areas? I already have S-OFF via Firewater so I'd assume the tough part's done...
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4.7GB? Seriously? lol
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I use that in about 2 days.....
I'm already at 50gb used and I still have 2 weeks left for this billing cycle
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I use that in about 2 days.....
I'm already at 50gb used and I still have 2 weeks left for this billing cycle
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No such thing as a data hog, data WANTS to be transferred, that is the whole point of a network. If Verizon's network can't handle the network demands of their customers, they should upgrade their network, not throttle their customers. They make billions of dollars for pete's sake.
I travel 50% of the year for work, and hotel "high-speed" internet is rarely fast enough for VPN, screen sharing, downloading ISOs, etc. My phone is the only way I can get enough bandwidth on the road to do my job, and I can easily use 50-70GB/month. I do not consider this to be outlandish - files get bigger every day, data demands grow every day, and network speed and capacity must keep up with this trend. Land-line ISPs have no problem with this, Verizon is just greedy.
I use about the same 50 to 70 gigs a month. But I've upgraded so I'll be fine. I also live in the booneys, but we got 4g last year and I haven't noticed any throttling here. Good luck to others!
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I use about the same 50 to 70 gigs a month. But I've upgraded so I'll be fine. I also live in the booneys, but we got 4g last year and I haven't noticed any throttling here. Good luck to others!
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What do you mean by "but I've upgraded so I'll be fine"? I would love a new phone (currently on HTC Rezound) but refuse to give up unlimited data, even if it means buying a G3 or One M8 for full price.
md303 said:
What do you mean by "but I've upgraded so I'll be fine"? I would love a new phone (currently on HTC Rezound) but refuse to give up unlimited data, even if it means buying a G3 or One M8 for full price.
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I just bought the M8 on contract during their mother's day promo and kept my unlimited data. Just transfer your plan from your old phone (2 year contract fulfilled) to the new one.
Unfortunately you cannot rely on what the sals reps tell you. They told me I had to give up mu unlimited data, but I would get 5 GB/month instead of the standard 2 GB. After they'd done the switch I was still unlimited....
Yeah have multiple lines. Just transfered my upgrade, used it and my contract is resumed for another 2 years.
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The OP left out one important little detail: Only the top 5% of data hogs get throttled. Those that use more than 4.7GB/month.
I'm ok with that.
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That's not very much data at all. I have a 10GB plan, and I routinely use almost all of it.
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Come on guys you know it's not really throttling, it's "Network Maintenance". Some attorney got big bucks for coming up with that attempt to fool all the VZW subscribers.