BB Unlimited Data Plan to Captivate? Still unlimited? - Captivate General

Ahh, nice to be back on XDA... I was a former poster when I used to own the HTC Tilt and the older version of it, then I switch to Blackberry Bold. And now switching to Android and what better way to look for info about rooting but right here on XDA. Well to my question, I get different responses from ATT reps saying I can grandfather the unlim. and some says it has to be from BB to BB for it to be grandfathered. Question is which one is true? Really want this phone and would very much like to keep the unlim. data.

jhego said:
Ahh, nice to be back on XDA... I was a former poster when I used to own the HTC Tilt and the older version of it, then I switch to Blackberry Bold. And now switching to Android and what better way to look for info about rooting but right here on XDA. Well to my question, I get different responses from ATT reps saying I can grandfather the unlim. and some says it has to be from BB to BB for it to be grandfathered. Question is which one is true? Really want this phone and would very much like to keep the unlim. data.
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Trust me you will be able to keep you unlimited data plan. In the system when they upgrade you they have the option to select unlimited PDA plan. Just make sure they keep it for you.
Anytime you go from Smartphone to smartphone with AT&T you still will be able to keep your unlimited data plan.

Would it still be grandfathered if you bought it off contract?

I just sold my bold 9700 and this will be my first android phone. I called in to the att rep to unregister my blackberry pin from the bis service and was told I should be grandfathered because I'm going from one unlimited data to another unlimited data. I will be also buying this at full price.

nahrah said:
I just sold my bold 9700 and this will be my first android phone. I called in to the att rep to unregister my blackberry pin from the bis service and was told I should be grandfathered because I'm going from one unlimited data to another unlimited data. I will be also buying this at full price.
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What did they say? Did they let you?

You will be fine. I have switched my unlimited data from iPhone to Blackberry to nothing and back various times and have not had any problems doing so. I am lucky to have been grandfathered in. 200mb just seems like a limit and I do not like it.

just make absolutely certain and have the rep read your plan back to you after the swap to make sure he swapped ur bb unlimited to a reg unlimited.

Thanks guys. I'll update you once I made the switch.

I read somewhere a person may NOT be grandfathered in if they purchase from other than AT&T. Anyone know if that is true?

ewingr said:
I read somewhere a person may NOT be grandfathered in if they purchase from other than AT&T. Anyone know if that is true?
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This is not true because either way you have the option to simply renew your current plan with AT&T (if you purchase a phone elsewhere) and then change your data plan to android (which will be unlimited assuming you are grandfathered in).
Now if you mean purchasing the phone from lets say Radio Shack under an AT&T contract you will still get the same benefits if you purchased from an AT&T store.

I checked multiple AT&T store today and spoke with the manager(s). Yes, if you have been grandfathered into unlimited data, this carries over to ANY future cell phone as long as you stay with AT&T. Samsung Captivate included.
They said that you would have the option of downgrading to a 2gb max WITH tethering (they weren't sure if the captivate supported it yet but obviously the iphone does). This isn't an issue though because the damn thing will be rooted and I'll tether with it without their knowledge.

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What did they say? Did they let you?
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They said they going to leave my blackberry data plan on there until I make the switch. When I actually have the phone in my hands I just give them a call to switch over to another unlimited data plan.

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I read somewhere a person may NOT be grandfathered in if they purchase from other than AT&T. Anyone know if that is true?
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Not true, as long as they remain your carrier, they don't care where your phone came from.

I'm also coming from the tilt, then fuze, then had a bb 9700 for awhile, and now getting the captivate I am in iraq though and my service has been suspended, they just re-did all my stuff over the phone and I told the lady I had an unlimited plan for itnernet, and she read it back as unlimited to me. If I hit limits (I tether my phones ALOT usually) then I will call and demand it be fixed, or ATT loses my contract for breaching it.

votum said:
I'm also coming from the tilt, then fuze, then had a bb 9700 for awhile, and now getting the captivate I am in iraq though and my service has been suspended, they just re-did all my stuff over the phone and I told the lady I had an unlimited plan for itnernet, and she read it back as unlimited to me. If I hit limits (I tether my phones ALOT usually) then I will call and demand it be fixed, or ATT loses my contract for breaching it.
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keep in mind that the att unlimited is still capped at 5 gigs even though its name implies otherwise. still, u should be fine.

systoxity said:
keep in mind that the att unlimited is still capped at 5 gigs even though its name implies otherwise. still, u should be fine.
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The unlimited plan is not capped whatsoever.

cbk.o4 said:
The unlimited plan is not capped whatsoever.
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i rescind my comment. I've done further research into the matter and lots of controversy surrounds ATT & their 5 gb limit. I won't open that can of worms here. Just be careful, if u go over 5 gb and tether w/o a tether plan. bad things may or may not happen.

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The unlimited plan is not capped whatsoever.
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agreed im pretty show my bill says more then that, plus the dude at att said i came keep my unlimited plan and he'll put the unlimited plan on the other phone line . it just who you talk to
note he was the manager , first time i meet the dude...

When I got my iP4 coming from a BB, i was able to keep my unlimited, now that im prolly going to be returning the iP4 i hope they should be able to keep my UNL.

tysj said:
Would it still be grandfathered if you bought it off contract?
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nahrah said:
I just sold my bold 9700 and this will be my first android phone. I called in to the att rep to unregister my blackberry pin from the bis service and was told I should be grandfathered because I'm going from one unlimited data to another unlimited data. I will be also buying this at full price.
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I read somewhere a person may NOT be grandfathered in if they purchase from other than AT&T. Anyone know if that is true?
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keep in mind that the att unlimited is still capped at 5 gigs even though its name implies otherwise. still, u should be fine.
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No matter if it's off contract of not you will still be able to keep your unlimited data plan. Trust me on that ;-)
Even if the phone is purchased from a another AT&T retailer you will be fine.
Also there is no cap the unlimited data plan.

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[Q] captivate and AT&T's basic phone unlimited data plan

Hey guys, my 1st post here.
i am on AT&T and i am going for galaxy s device, obvious choice being captivate, but i want to know if i have basic unlimited data plan (the one for my current SE w760, $15/month) will continue to work? i am going to buy captivate from ebay, not directly from AT&T, so can i still use non-smartphone data plan for captivate? cuz if im not getting unlimited data, i will prefer going to Vibrant.
It will work fine, but AT&T will eventually notice and switch you to an "appropriate" plan.
thank you for the reply, but then what if i go for Vibrant instead of captivate? that way AT&T cant change my plan to smartphone plan right?
It depends on whether they have the Vibrant's IMEIs in their database. It's possible they don't, but it's possible they do.
But then you would have to get an unlocked Vibrant, and would you even be able to use the 200MB on the smartphone $15 plan since you'd be using EDGE (I'm assuming the Vibrant doesn't have AT&T 3G).
I'm good friends with a manager from an AT&T store, and yes, it will change, unfortunately, even if you got the Vibrant... Had to ask him pretty much the same question for a friend of mine, and they manage to see that you have a data/smart phone pretty quick.
yeah that is true, clocking 200MB on EDGE is not that probable, but that is my deciding factor. if i can get unlimited 3G on captivate (i guess AT&T no longer has an unlimited plan) then i would go for captivate else i would go for Vibrant, as vibrant is better in many aspects than captivate, especially less bloatware and more useful apps pre-loaded.
And you can get an unlocked Vibrant?
thats a shame, but then in that case Vibrant is better choice, as having a limited 3G is a pain, and that was the only reason i was going for captivate over vibrant.
and yes there are lots of unlocked vibrants on ebay from pretty reputed sellers.
xargs1 said:
It will work fine, but AT&T will eventually notice and switch you to an "appropriate" plan.
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In my case they didn't. I used my at&t Tilt (Kaiser) on MEdia Net Unlimited for the last two years. I never got switched back to the smartphone data plan or got any sort of nasty note about using too much data.
I had a unlocked G1 on At&t and after configuring the APNs I had unlimited data for $15 a month. Needless to say there was no 3g but it still worked with no issues.
If you have an old unlimited data plan, its called grandfathered I think. Anyways, if you have an old smartphone plan it should just stay the same as long its the smartphone, I still had my unlimited plan when I switch from iPhone 3GS to SGS. But I don't know if you have the smartphone unlimited data plan since you mention the 15 dollars one. I would go directly to AT&T cooperate store and speak in person cuz representative on the phone are just dumb! LOL so yeah meeting in person would be good.
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mlb1988 said:
If you have an old unlimited data plan, its called grandfathered I think. Anyways, if you have an old smartphone plan it should just stay the same as long its the smartphone, I still had my unlimited plan when I switch from iPhone 3GS to SGS. But I don't know if you have the smartphone unlimited data plan since you mention the 15 dollars one. I would go directly to AT&T cooperate store and speak in person cuz representative on the phone are just dumb! LOL so yeah meeting in person would be good.
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OP doesn't have any smartphone plan to be grandfathered in.
chirantan.f said:
yeah that is true, clocking 200MB on EDGE is not that probable, but that is my deciding factor. if i can get unlimited 3G on captivate (i guess AT&T no longer has an unlimited plan) then i would go for captivate else i would go for Vibrant, as vibrant is better in many aspects than captivate, especially less bloatware and more useful apps pre-loaded.
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200 MB on EDGE is easy to do on the Captivate. I'm already past that point and I do use Wifi at home.
so from all the posts, i think getting a captivate means i have to pay for smartphone plan, even though i should have an option to cancel the data plans totally (while some forums say that i cant cancel a data plan, but i dont believe thats the case if i have bought the phone at full price and not subsidized).
Now i am interested in seeing what will AT&T do if i go for Vibrant (instead of Captivate) and use the non-smartphone data plan on it. I doubt they will know what is connected as they wont have IMEI for Vibrant (some forums said that AT&T does differentiate their smartphones based on the list of IMEIs) so with Vibrant i should be able to use non-smartphone data-plan, what do you guys think about that?
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so from all the posts, i think getting a captivate means i have to pay for smartphone plan, even though i should have an option to cancel the data plans totally (while some forums say that i cant cancel a data plan, but i dont believe thats the case if i have bought the phone at full price and not subsidized).
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AT&T requires ALL smartphones to have data plan regardless how you purchased it. Just ask any Nexus One owners.
Now i am interested in seeing what will AT&T do if i go for Vibrant (instead of Captivate) and use the non-smartphone data plan on it. I doubt they will know what is connected as they wont have IMEI for Vibrant (some forums said that AT&T does differentiate their smartphones based on the list of IMEIs) so with Vibrant i should be able to use non-smartphone data-plan, what do you guys think about that?
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Personally, if I'm only getting EDGE speed, I'll not pay any data plan for it. It's like you buy a top of line PC today and put a dialup networking for internet connection.

best way to keep unlimited data???

hello. i will be getting my captiave next week and i was just wondering whats the best way to keep ur unlimited data? ive been reading around and seems like ppl have been getting it by not getting their captivate at at&t. is this true? if u got urs their at&t how did u manage to keep ur unlimited data? if i have to go through a best buy or something, it wont be a problem. any suggestions is greatly appreciated!
I kept unlimited data by just keeping my old phone number/account/sim card with att. You get "grandfathered" into keeping the unlimited data plan if you already had it with att through your old phone/sim/account. That is, you get the option of keeping it.. its a tad more expensive than the 2GB plan... but you don't need to worry about data.
Good luck.
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I came fm BB and had the BB unlimited data. When i got my Captivate i was able to keep the data plan. At&t rep just changed my data plan to smartphone unlimited data.
JB
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toawkanavngthded said:
hello. i will be getting my captiave next week and i was just wondering whats the best way to keep ur unlimited data? ive been reading around and seems like ppl have been getting it by not getting their captivate at at&t. is this true? if u got urs their at&t how did u manage to keep ur unlimited data? if i have to go through a best buy or something, it wont be a problem. any suggestions is greatly appreciated!
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There is no trick to this. If you are upgrading your phone, you can keep your plan. All carriers have allowed this for years. Unless they add a special plan for a special phone (like they did for iPhone) you are fine. There are some people that have old $10/month data plans they have had for 10 years.
Walk into AT&T, get your phone, and they will move your plan to it as long as you are upgrading and not adding a line. They will explain it all to you. There are no mysteries. If you don't like what you hear then you can always walk out without buying.
I had an iPhone 3G, they had to remove the data plan and put it back (launch day for captivate); but I did it all at the AT&T store and I still have unlimited data plan.
toawkanavngthded said:
hello. i will be getting my captiave next week and i was just wondering whats the best way to keep ur unlimited data? ive been reading around and seems like ppl have been getting it by not getting their captivate at at&t. is this true? if u got urs their at&t how did u manage to keep ur unlimited data? if i have to go through a best buy or something, it wont be a problem. any suggestions is greatly appreciated!
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a long as you have a PDA/Smartphone unlimited plan you will get to keep it but if you have a regular phone unlimited plan they will make you change to one of the new Smartphone plans that are limited now...That's what happen to me... No more unlimited data for me...
thank you all for ur response! ive had the iphone 2g for years and i have a tilt 2 at the moment. so i should be good right? hmmm i dont know why when i read certani ppl's post that they got their unlimited data removed... well i hope when i get my captivate everything will work out! i guess i will be going to at&t... still browsing around to find a good deal!
i just went to a local att store and was told that i can not keep my $15 unlimited data plan, it's a smartphone. i haven't used att branded phone for years, my current phone is a samsung i8000 with unlimited nation call and data plan. if i wanna cativate, i have to pay at least 25 bucks for 2G. bummer! do i have chance if i get it from best buy? thanks in advance for any inputs.
toawkanavngthded said:
thank you all for ur response! ive had the iphone 2g for years and i have a tilt 2 at the moment. so i should be good right? hmmm i dont know why when i read certani ppl's post that they got their unlimited data removed... well i hope when i get my captivate everything will work out! i guess i will be going to at&t... still browsing around to find a good deal!
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How much are you paying for your data plan currently?? If you are paying $ 20 then they will make you get one of the new limited plans, however, if you are paying $ 30 a month, then you will get to keep the unlimited plan. I switched from a BB over to the Captivate and kept my unlimited plan!
HTH,
Charlie
dmnall said:
How much are you paying for your data plan currently?? If you are paying $ 20 then they will make you get one of the new limited plans, however, if you are paying $ 30 a month, then you will get to keep the unlimited plan. I switched from a BB over to the Captivate and kept my unlimited plan!
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Charlie
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hmmm i believe im paying 30 bucks a month? when i check online it shows SMT data. is that the data? lol
If you're paying >= $30/mo for your data, you can keep it. The unlimied data plan that aren't allowed are those $10, $15 or $20 plans which are only valid for specific hardwares in the past.
Lancez said:
i just went to a local att store and was told that i can not keep my $15 unlimited data plan, it's a smartphone. i haven't used att branded phone for years, my current phone is a samsung i8000 with unlimited nation call and data plan. if i wanna cativate, i have to pay at least 25 bucks for 2G. bummer! do i have chance if i get it from best buy? thanks in advance for any inputs.
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At some point AT&T will notice you are using a smartphone and they will make you up your data plan - it is required for the Captivate. it doesn't matter where you get the phone.
Lancez said:
i just went to a local att store and was told that i can not keep my $15 unlimited data plan, it's a smartphone. i haven't used att branded phone for years, my current phone is a samsung i8000 with unlimited nation call and data plan. if i wanna cativate, i have to pay at least 25 bucks for 2G. bummer! do i have chance if i get it from best buy? thanks in advance for any inputs.
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You might get your phone a little cheaper but best buy cant change AT&T's data rates
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thanks guys.
My sister in law works at att, she thought I had media net when I bought this phone. Luckily I didn't. If you go to the att store and already have unlimited (as long as it's a smartphone/pda package), you'll be grandfathered in
Moral: screw best buy
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I have been on MediaNet Unlimited with Samsung BJ2 and Jack (i637) for a few years and they never made up upgrade. I just ordered the Captivate with my ATT Premier acct and didn't make me upgrade. Any idea once I start using, they'll make me upgrade? I am not a big data user (usually stay under 2GB a month).
What if i go with a SE Vivaz instead? It's Symbian OS....
I dont really care which one as long as it has decent camera, can tether, and can do email and basic browsing. i gave up on WinMo 6.1~6.5 after the two samsungs (i617 and i637) can't handle 4 email accts w/o running out of memory and Xperia X1 was just too slow. I tried N97 mini too but it was flaky and no exchange folders. I'm trying to avoid changing my $15 mediaNet unlimited while fulfilling my 'smartphone' needs. Suggestions are appreciated.
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I have been on MediaNet Unlimited with Samsung BJ2 and Jack (i637) for a few years and they never made up upgrade. I just ordered the Captivate with my ATT Premier acct and didn't make me upgrade. Any idea once I start using, they'll make me upgrade? I am not a big data user (usually stay under 2GB a month).
What if i go with a SE Vivaz instead? It's Symbian OS....
I dont really care which one as long as it has decent camera, can tether, and can do email and basic browsing. i gave up on WinMo 6.1~6.5 after the two samsungs (i617 and i637) can't handle 4 email accts w/o running out of memory and Xperia X1 was just too slow. I tried N97 mini too but it was flaky and no exchange folders. I'm trying to avoid changing my $15 mediaNet unlimited while fulfilling my 'smartphone' needs. Suggestions are appreciated.
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If you want any chance of that, get a phone that AT&T doesn't offer at all. If its something they offer they will see your imei and add the smartphone data. And even then you risk it because some people have had the data plan added when they used an off network phone.
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FYI - Upgrading to Android/Sensation from HD2

I received my Sensation yesterday and found that the data wasn't working. There is a $10 charge per month charge for 4g going from an HD2 to a Sensation.
What was your previous plan?
I did not have to do this. I came from HD2 with android on it. They said: "oh cool we prefer the HD2 like that too. So you have android already." Me: "aha I do."
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I received my Sensation yesterday and found that the data wasn't working. There is a $10 charge per month charge for 4g going from an HD2 to a Sensation.
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if you already had a "data plan" there is no extra charge... just call and make sure they add the "android" service which is free...
you'll need to change to an android approved plan. tmobile has probably already flagged your IMEI to not work. you can test this by putting your SIM card in your HD2 & seeing if that works. If it does on the HD2 & not on the Sensation then the IMEI is blocked.
Every other person on this forum who was running a grandfathered data plan has had to "upgrade" as well.
...I haven't. I'm still using an old SunCom 15USD data plan and I get data on the Sensation.
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...I haven't. I'm still using an old SunCom 15USD data plan and I get data on the Sensation.
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you lucky SOB
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you lucky SOB
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No kidding. I even had to use the new SIM. Mine was still voicestream. I got HSPA+ on my HD2 though. Sucks that I have to pay more per month now.
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Every other person on this forum who was running a grandfathered data plan has had to "upgrade" as well.
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Not true. I didn't have to. I came from the hd2 and had no trouble.
I'm grandfathered in to a 3 year old data plan with a discount making it $17 month.
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Not true. I didn't have to. I came from the hd2 and had no trouble.
I'm grandfathered in to a 3 year old data plan with a discount making it $17 month.
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I didn't upgrade either, still have my grandfathered G1 unlimited plan @ $20 a month. (they're all capped at 5 even if its "unlimited")
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No kidding. I even had to use the new SIM. Mine was still voicestream. I got HSPA+ on my HD2 though. Sucks that I have to pay more per month now.
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What do you mean you have to pay more now? My HD2 on the original Total Internet plan got HSPA as well
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Not true. I didn't have to. I came from the hd2 and had no trouble.
I'm grandfathered in to a 3 year old data plan with a discount making it $17 month.
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What's the name of your plan?
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I didn't upgrade either, still have my grandfathered G1 unlimited plan @ $20 a month. (they're all capped at 5 even if its "umlimited")
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If it's from a G1 it's probably already an Android plan
I don't know if it's an american thing, but it's scanadlous to charge more for the same data just because of your operating system. i'm glad so far i've not had a contract that specifies what phone can use what data. (without trying to start a flamewar) I think the only time i've ever seen that happen here is when iphone came out and everyone had specific iphone plans as all of a sudden the networks thought everyone was only then going to start using internet on their phones.
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I don't know if it's an american thing, but it's scanadlous to charge more for the same data just because of your operating system. i'm glad so far i've not had a contract that specifies what phone can use what data. (without trying to start a flamewar) I think the only time i've ever seen that happen here is when iphone came out and everyone had specific iphone plans as all of a sudden the networks thought everyone was only then going to start using internet on their phones.
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Well with T-Mobile there are separate data plans for blackberry and Android
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What's the name of your plan?
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Not offered to the public plan? But my data plan is just the old unlimited $20 month one with a $3 discount for something not pertaining to this thread.
But after a few hours last night. My data no longer works. I'm gonna have to call them today.
Data Plan
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Not offered to the public plan? But my data plan is just the old unlimited $20 month one with a $3 discount for something not pertaining to this thread.
But after a few hours last night. My data no longer works. I'm gonna have to call them today.
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I also came from a Hd2 my data stopped working I called 4 times and was told my Total web data plan would work. Finally I got a CSR who said I would need a Android plan and I would need to pay $5 more I demanded a supervisor 5mins later CSR came back told me they switched me to Android plan and kept the price the same. Moral of the story don't take there crap and demand the android plan with no price change .
I think it's safe to assume that tmobile will catch most if not all people that are on non android plans with this phone & force them to change over
I came from HD2 as well. You will get data at HSPA not HSPA+ until you either upgrade or they block your imei.
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I also came from an HD2 and had to switch plans. I still pay the same $24.99, but learned it has a 2GB cap instead of the 5GB cap. But, I may switch to the $30 plan if needed and the $5 wouldn't kill me.
Yeah, I had an unlimited BlackBerry plan and I was forced to switch over to the 5 GB Android plan for the internet to work. Oh well.
Any tips?
I'm migrating from an HD2 (running Android) to a Sensation. Any tips on swapping data? I know I can do contacts and such through Google Sync, but what do you think is the best way to switch over photos and text messages?
Any tips would be appreciated..
Thanks much.

[Q] AT& T require 4G data plan!

Hi Forum,
My wife bought a Iphone 4 last year with a 200MG/ month data plan. She gave her Iphone to her nephew. She told AT&T that her Iphone was broken. She has been using my old Samsung Vibrant with no issue from AT&T, for several months now. I got her a used Infuse yesterday and was using data. AT&T sniffed it and sent a text message.
( Did you know an eligible data plan is required for your 4G Smartphone? Pls call 611 to select a plan and establish your 4G data connection today.)
Do any one know what AT&T will do if she continue to use the Infuse?
Thank you in advance for your opinions, and knowledge!
They are going to add the data plan to your account. You have a choice currentley between 200mb/$15 @ overage rate of 200mb/$15, or 2gb/$25 @ overage rate 1gb/$10. if you dont call and choose a plan they will stick you with the 2gb/$25 rate.
Thanks!
So the options are pay more for data or back to the Vibrant! Do you think calling them and explain the situation would change anything?
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So the options are pay more for data or back to the Vibrant! Do you think calling them and explain the situation would change anything?
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Call them until you get a rep that does what you want. That usually does it, haha. I'm sure this situation could be no exception.
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You can try calling and yelling all you want, theres always that small chance you may get sombody to bend a rule for you. However it is at&t's policy that with all smartphones you are required to have a data plan, so understand you are on the losing side of the battle and can only HOPE sombody bends the rule for you to allow you to continue with no data plan.
She has data plan, 200 mg/ per month for $15. AT&T want her to have 4G data plan.
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She has data plan, 200 mg/ per month for $15. AT&T want her to have 4G data plan.
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well than your just on the wrong 200mb/$15 plan, pricing is same for 3g/4g devcies the feature code is just different. call and get it fixed so they dont change you to the $25 plan or somthing stupid
Thank you all!
I resolve the issue with AT&T. After over 30 minutes on the phone, AT&T rep said that I need to provide the SIM and IME number of the Infuse. The data plan is still the same which is 200 Mg/ month for $15. As first, AT&T tried to hook a new 2G data plan. I did not complaint or yell; in fact, I was very polite. I stated that the Vibrant was not getting Voice mail notification, and that my wife hardly use the 200 MG that she has per month. Anyhow, a bit of patience and gratitude seem to do it, this time!
Tomdg07 said:
You can try calling and yelling all you want, theres always that small chance you may get sombody to bend a rule for you. However it is at&t's policy that with all smartphones you are required to have a data plan, so understand you are on the losing side of the battle and can only HOPE sombody bends the rule for you to allow you to continue with no data plan.
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Back when I got my HTC Tilt I had a very annoying situation with them. At the time of contract signing I was told I had to have a data plan. 3 months later on a night I was not even around my phone I had a $200 data charge for megabytes upon megabytes of transfer charges. Complained to high heaven, and had ALL data service cut to my line.
Fast forward to this past Sept, got online to upgrade our two phones. Well it seems I got lucky and got an Infuse WITHOUT any data plan. Kind of annoying I have someone trying to text my photos...wink wink, that I can not receive. However our other phone AT&T was kind enough to automatically add the data plan (most expensive one of course) without indicating this. Only when we got the October bill that I saw this. *** I just hate these mobile carriers with a passion. Been years of bend over and take it up the arse with this fools. Actually had AT&T try to change terms AFTER a contract was signed.
Honestly folks, with these phones how having Google Voice, we have actually talked about saying FU to ALL carriers and just using the internet. Yeah, so I cant call when I am driving...dont want to talk then anyways. Just anything I could do to give these **** the finger.
i wouldn't imagine they can do anything if you didnt buy the phone on contract. but if you are on an iphone unlimited plan they might try like hell to get you off of it.
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Actually had AT&T try to change terms AFTER a contract was signed.
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Are you referring to the terms and cinditions YOU signed, which actually state subject to change at any time without giving notice?
I also want to remind you, you can also leave att at any time
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If you buy your smartphone outright, paid full price, they can not make you buy a data plan.
But, you then "can not" use your phone to access the internet or e-mail unless on WiFi. Or they can/will force a data plan on you.
Texting and MMS are part of the Phone plan not data.
Truckerglenn said:
If you buy your smartphone outright, paid full price, they can not make you buy a data plan.
But, you then "can not" use your phone to access the internet or e-mail unless on WiFi. Or they can/will force a data plan on you.
Texting and MMS are part of the Phone plan not data.
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unless you have smartphone exclusion, get a dumb phone, put the infuse on that sim card and turn off data.
If u are in contract with att and you buy a phone out of contract u are still required to have a data plan as long as its on an active acct.
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FIX !!!
1. Get a.dummy phone put sim card in it and have att put your number on that phone
2. Have them remove data on that phone
3. Hang up with att
4. turn OFF DATA on the infuse(long press power button and turn mobile data off)
also delete att APN
5 enjoy your phone with out att adding data plan on your phone and still use wifi
Ive been using this method for years. Cheers
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If u are in contract with att and you buy a phone out of contract u are still required to have a data plan as long as its on an active acct.
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not if you have smart phone exclusion. my brother uses my old captivate without mms or data on att. only if you lose smart phone exclusion do they force it on you, so if you have a number that never had a data plan you are good, if you had a data plan and got rid of it and bought another phone you need to change phone numbers and sign a new contract to get smartphone exclusion. also how many people are using iphone unlimited plans and arent forced to upgrade to a 4g plan? only people who are suspected of tethering are forced to change.
Dani897 said:
not if you have smart phone exclusion. my brother uses my old captivate without mms or data on att. only if you lose smart phone exclusion do they force it on you, so if you have a number that never had a data plan you are good, if you had a data plan and got rid of it and bought another phone you need to change phone numbers and sign a new contract to get smartphone exclusion. also how many people are using iphone unlimited plans and arent forced to upgrade to a 4g plan? only people who are suspected of tethering are forced to change.
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The smartphone exclusion is being removed if someone has it on the acct and upgrades to a diff phone and data plan. So make sure he doesnt get data added on it
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I tryed to change the 3G to a 4G plan (switch from Captivate to Infuse) online.
This did not work right away and so I started a chat with an ATT representative and it was taken care of in no time!
I am jsut wondering, if ya'll ain't got no datat plan. What do you use your smartphone for?
timf79 said:
I tryed to change the 3G to a 4G plan (switch from Captivate to Infuse) online.
This did not work right away and so I started a chat with an ATT representative and it was taken care of in no time!
I am jsut wondering, if ya'll ain't got no datat plan. What do you use your smartphone for?
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Media player and phone. Before I got my unlimited data plan, I didn't have much of a need for a data plan as I was always on campus using their wifi.
Romeo20 said:
I resolve the issue with AT&T. After over 30 minutes on the phone, AT&T rep said that I need to provide the SIM and IME number of the Infuse. The data plan is still the same which is 200 Mg/ month for $15. As first, AT&T tried to hook a new 2G data plan. I did not complaint or yell; in fact, I was very polite. I stated that the Vibrant was not getting Voice mail notification, and that my wife hardly use the 200 MG that she has per month. Anyhow, a bit of patience and gratitude seem to do it, this time!
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In case anyone comes here with the same question.. I started off with the 2 gig plan a year and a half after they canceled the unlimited plan. Popped my SIM card into the original iPhone set it up in iTunes and 20 minutes later had the unlimited data plan. Popped my SIM card in later that day and get that text every month. Just don't call or mention it. Hint: They don't really care.

[Q] Unlimited Iphone Data Plan and Samsung S2 Skyrocket Options

Hello Just a quick question or two. Right now I have an Iphone 4 and am eligible for an upgrade. I decided on the Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket. However do any of you know if an iPhone data plan will work with a non-iphone smartphone? I'm really trying to keep my iphone plan for the sake of being able to switch my microsim between the iphone and the Samsung (If all works out I want to keep my microsim instead of a new one. I'll just use an adapter with the Samsung)
I've read that a non-iphone smartphone can work under an iphone data plan but an iphone can't work under a regular smartphone plan. Which is why I'm trying hard to keep the plan I have now. I just want to know if that is fact or false.
Any information will be really helpful. I asked this on the at&t forum but haven't gotten any replies. I hope you guys can help Please and thank you
EDIT: sorry. I meant to post this in the Q&A forum. Is it okay to post this here?
simplyinsane112 said:
Hello Just a quick question or two. Right now I have an Iphone 4 and am eligible for an upgrade. I decided on the Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket. However do any of you know if an iPhone data plan will work with a non-iphone smartphone? I'm really trying to keep my iphone plan for the sake of being able to switch my microsim between the iphone and the Samsung (If all works out I want to keep my microsim instead of a new one. I'll just use an adapter with the Samsung)
I've read that a non-iphone smartphone can work under an iphone data plan but an iphone can't work under a regular smartphone plan. Which is why I'm trying hard to keep the plan I have now. I just want to know if that is fact or false.
Any information will be really helpful. I asked this on the at&t forum but haven't gotten any replies. I hope you guys can help Please and thank you
EDIT: sorry. I meant to post this in the Q&A forum. Is it okay to post this here?
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You can keep your plan, As i just upgraded from an Iphone 4 myself, however you will not be able to switch sims as easily, You must get a new sim for the LTE service from ATT for the skyrocket. I kept my same plan with unlimited data now provisioned for LTE and whatnot is all.
So your plan will have to be adapted, You can get a cookie cutter for your sim and then it should work in an iphone never tried it though....and the adapter would have to go in the skyrocket.
Hope this helps, PS don't let them change your plan they will ask you too but say no.
the quick answer is no, although you will be able to retain the "unlimited" status of the plan, they are two different codes on your account. so you can use the phone and text but no data or pic/vid messages unless you change the data plan.
Thanks for the info
Tweakecho said:
You can keep your plan, As i just upgraded from an Iphone 4 myself, however you will not be able to switch sims as easily, You must get a new sim for the LTE service from ATT for the skyrocket. I kept my same plan with unlimited data now provisioned for LTE and whatnot is all.
So your plan will have to be adapted, You can get a cookie cutter for your sim and then it should work in an iphone never tried it though....and the adapter would have to go in the skyrocket.
Hope this helps, PS don't let them change your plan they will ask you too but say no.
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Thanks for answering. How happy are you with the Skyrocket now that you've upgraded from the iPhone?
I came from iPhone as well. My grandfathered iPhone $30 unlimited plan carried over to my skyrocket. Still had to get a new Sim card though. Make sure they keep your grandfathered plan, I heard some people got ripped off on theirs. You can keep it so make sure you specify that.
I kept my unlimited and it's damn fast
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R4INS said:
I came from iPhone as well. My grandfathered iPhone $30 unlimited plan carried over to my skyrocket. Still had to get a new Sim card though. Make sure they keep your grandfathered plan, I heard some people got ripped off on theirs. You can keep it so make sure you specify that.
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I have the $30 unlimited plan too. So your data plan name is still under iPhone or under Smartphone Unlimited Data plan? Just making sure I'm understanding right.
simplyinsane112 said:
I have the $30 unlimited plan too. So your data plan name is still under iPhone or under Smartphone Unlimited Data plan? Just making sure I'm understanding right.
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This is what my bill says now:
Unlim data for 4G LTE Smartphones w/Visual Voice Mail 02/12-03/11 30.00
But it was previously the Iphone unlimited data plan.
Also important to mention that I'd you have unlimited you will now be throttled at 5 gbs instead of 3 like iPhone users
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droid512 said:
Also important to mention that I'd you have unlimited you will now be throttled at 5 gbs instead of 3 like iPhone users
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id be curious as to where you got any of this info. the throttle limit on any of the unlimited smartphone plans is 1.5-2.5 gb i have a skyrocket and have gotten throttled at 2.1 gb.
blkkouki said:
id be curious as to where you got any of this info. the throttle limit on any of the unlimited smartphone plans is 1.5-2.5 gb i have a skyrocket and have gotten throttled at 2.1 gb.
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http://www.slashgear.com/att-increases-unlimited-data-throttling-threshold-01216421/
When I upgraded from my iPhone 3GS to the Skyrocket the guy at the store asked me if I wanted to switch from my unlimited data plan. I told him no, I'd rather take the throttle than the overage charges any day. Now my bill shows this feature instead of the iPhone data plan: LTE UNL SMT VVMT. I was also surprised that I wasn't asked to verify my employment status with Wal Mart, I haven't worked there in 4 years, but i still get the 20% discount off my bill every month.
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When I upgraded from my iPhone 3GS to the Skyrocket the guy at the store asked me if I wanted to switch from my unlimited data plan. I told him no, I'd rather take the throttle than the overage charges any day. Now my bill shows this feature instead of the iPhone data plan: LTE UNL SMT VVMT. I was also surprised that I wasn't asked to verify my employment status with Wal Mart, I haven't worked there in 4 years, but i still get the 20% discount off my bill every month.
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I got 10% for working for the state when I signed up for att. Never even showed them proof they just put it on my account!
nice if they keep to that it will make me a happy person

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