Verizon to throttle 4G LTE users with unlimited plans starting October .
http://www.androidauthority.com/verizon-throttle-4g-lte-users-starting-october-1-409934/
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I wonder if this affects current on contract unlimited data.
dadsterflip said:
I wonder if this affects current on contract unlimited data.
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At this point there aren't many if any on contract Unlimited data plans, as they stopped offering unlimited 3 years ago.
mc_365 said:
At this point there aren't many if any on contract Unlimited data plans, as they stopped offering unlimited 3 years ago.
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That's not true. There's a fairly well-known loophole of using alternate upgrades to keep unlimited data and extend your contract. I've successfully done it three times now. The last time was in April when I got my M8. I have unlimited data and my contract expiration date is 04/07/2016. :good:
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That's not true. There's a fairly well-known loophole of using alternate upgrades to keep unlimited data and extend your contract. I've successfully done it three times now. The last time was in April when I got my M8. I have unlimited data and my contract expiration date is 04/07/2016. :good:
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This... So we shouldn't get affected then ?
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This... So we shouldn't get affected then ?
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Technically, according to the conditions of the list, we should be fine. One of the conditions is "Have fulfilled their minimum contract term". This is Big Red we're talking about here, though, so you never know. I hope T-Mobile steps up their coverage game in my area soon. I'm sure they will welcome me with open arms when Big Red forces me to get rid of my old voice plan and unlimited data.
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Technically, according to the conditions of the list, we should be fine. One of the conditions is "Have fulfilled their minimum contract term". This is Big Red we're talking about here, though, so you never know. I hope T-Mobile steps up their coverage game in my area soon. I'm sure they will welcome me with open arms when Big Red forces me to get rid of my old voice plan and unlimited data.
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I was hoping tmobile picks up where I am.. I'd jump in a heart beat.
Switch to T-Mobile
I'm switching to T-Mobile soon - I tether a lot so having unlimited is nice and there is more development for T-Mobile/AT&T editions. I would get throttled with unlimited on both networks so why not pay less?
Better reception more reliable network... More coverage. For me I travel so its nice to know I have data and my kids are able to tether for games and videos. Just my 2¢ often worth less to others lol.
The OP left out one important little detail: Only the top 5% of data hogs get throttled. Those that use more than 4.7GB/month.
I'm ok with that.
berndblb said:
The OP left out one important little detail: Only the top 5% of data hogs get throttled. Those that use more than 4.7GB/month.
I'm ok with that.
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4.7GB? Seriously? lol
Can anyone confirm the state of Verizon HTC One M8s that have switched to TMobile?
I assume by "everything" they literally mean, everything--calls, WiFi, 4G--or does the 4G only apply to "refarmed" areas? I already have S-OFF via Firewater so I'd assume the tough part's done...
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4.7GB? Seriously? lol
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I use that in about 2 days.....
I'm already at 50gb used and I still have 2 weeks left for this billing cycle
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justin94 said:
I use that in about 2 days.....
I'm already at 50gb used and I still have 2 weeks left for this billing cycle
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No such thing as a data hog, data WANTS to be transferred, that is the whole point of a network. If Verizon's network can't handle the network demands of their customers, they should upgrade their network, not throttle their customers. They make billions of dollars for pete's sake.
I travel 50% of the year for work, and hotel "high-speed" internet is rarely fast enough for VPN, screen sharing, downloading ISOs, etc. My phone is the only way I can get enough bandwidth on the road to do my job, and I can easily use 50-70GB/month. I do not consider this to be outlandish - files get bigger every day, data demands grow every day, and network speed and capacity must keep up with this trend. Land-line ISPs have no problem with this, Verizon is just greedy.
I use about the same 50 to 70 gigs a month. But I've upgraded so I'll be fine. I also live in the booneys, but we got 4g last year and I haven't noticed any throttling here. Good luck to others!
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I use about the same 50 to 70 gigs a month. But I've upgraded so I'll be fine. I also live in the booneys, but we got 4g last year and I haven't noticed any throttling here. Good luck to others!
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What do you mean by "but I've upgraded so I'll be fine"? I would love a new phone (currently on HTC Rezound) but refuse to give up unlimited data, even if it means buying a G3 or One M8 for full price.
md303 said:
What do you mean by "but I've upgraded so I'll be fine"? I would love a new phone (currently on HTC Rezound) but refuse to give up unlimited data, even if it means buying a G3 or One M8 for full price.
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I just bought the M8 on contract during their mother's day promo and kept my unlimited data. Just transfer your plan from your old phone (2 year contract fulfilled) to the new one.
Unfortunately you cannot rely on what the sals reps tell you. They told me I had to give up mu unlimited data, but I would get 5 GB/month instead of the standard 2 GB. After they'd done the switch I was still unlimited....
Yeah have multiple lines. Just transfered my upgrade, used it and my contract is resumed for another 2 years.
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The OP left out one important little detail: Only the top 5% of data hogs get throttled. Those that use more than 4.7GB/month.
I'm ok with that.
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That's not very much data at all. I have a 10GB plan, and I routinely use almost all of it.
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Come on guys you know it's not really throttling, it's "Network Maintenance". Some attorney got big bucks for coming up with that attempt to fool all the VZW subscribers.
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My VZW source told me about a new Point-of-Sale system being implemented for corporate Verizon stores (a nationwide rollout as far as I know, but I could be wrong on that assumption). Regardless, this new POS system goes live June 26th. In the online training for the new POS system, Verizon Employees saw some mention given to new calling plans + tiered data implementation coming at the same time as the new POS system rollout.
What I was told is this: calling plans are being renamed, probably changed (in terms of text/voice minute allowance, price, inclusion [or not] of data, etc.) FOR SURE the plans are being renamed, and it's not a far stretch of the imagination to think that this is the perfect time for VZW to roll out new data plans. The reason for that thought is the fact that VZW has been talking about a summer debut for tiered data plans for a while now. Well, summer is here... so it's about time for this to happen.
No specific details have been given at this time, likely no one will know much until the day before or day of the announcement. But at least we have a time frame for this. If there is going to be an end of unlimited data, I predict it will come with the roll out of new calling plans.
Also, this makes sense in light of the July 6th extended tethering promotion. In the event someone wants to keep tethering after July 6th on their Thunderbolt, it will require a data plan change (adding a paid monthly tethering plan). This is one way for Verizon to force people into the new calling plans. If they are capping data or upping prices for LTE/4G devices (or across the board for all devices - who knows?), this is a great way for Verizon to steal people away from their unlimited data plans. You want tethering? OK. Change your plan to one of our "new" plans with tiered (capped) data and you can have tethering!
I think this "free" tethering was a cold, money grubbing calculation from the beginning. I digress...
Anyway, just passing along what I heard today. Anyone else hear anything similar to this today? I could have some details wrong, and though this is clearly just speculation, I don't want to obfuscate the truth if someone has it on good authority something here isn't true or I have some of the details a little wrong.
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Here's the reason free tethering was extended:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20...-4g-tethering/
As for tiered data, they can pry my unlimited 4G from my cold, lifeless hands. Or I'm going to Sprint
That link is broken for me. Was the story about the issues with the Charge's hotspot being unreliable? I know the previous extension was supposedly because of the 24 hour EHRPD network outage that affected so many Thunderbolt users.
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That link is broken for me. Was the story about the issues with the Charge's hotspot being unreliable? I know the previous extension was supposedly because of the 24 hour EHRPD network outage that affected so many Thunderbolt users.
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Sorry, it worked for me earlier today I just assumed it still worked..
It was something about how the Free Press filed a complaint with the FCC saying that Verizon shouldn't be allowed to tell us how to use our data, etc and that the conditions with which the 700 mhz spectrum was bought somewhat prevent Verizon from charging for it.
And no, but the Charge did receive an update a few days ago fixing their hotspot.
Ah, I forgot about the free press filing. Good to know the Charge was updated, too.
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joshnichols189 said:
Here's the reason free tethering was extended:
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As for tiered data, they can pry my unlimited 4G from my cold, lifeless hands. Or I'm going to Sprint
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Here's a working link. Forum cut yours off...
news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20069580-264/complaint-to-fcc-verizon-mustnt-bar-4g-tethering
I tried to post as a link, but I'm such a newb that it is only allowed after my 8th post
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My VZW source told me about a new Point-of-Sale system being implemented for corporate Verizon stores (a nationwide rollout as far as I know, but I could be wrong on that assumption). Regardless, this new POS system goes live June 26th. In the online training for the new POS system, Verizon Employees saw some mention given to new calling plans + tiered data implementation coming at the same time as the new POS system rollout.
What I was told is this: calling plans are being renamed, probably changed (in terms of text/voice minute allowance, price, inclusion [or not] of data, etc.) FOR SURE the plans are being renamed, and it's not a far stretch of the imagination to think that this is the perfect time for VZW to roll out new data plans. The reason for that thought is the fact that VZW has been talking about a summer debut for tiered data plans for a while now. Well, summer is here... so it's about time for this to happen.
No specific details have been given at this time, likely no one will know much until the day before or day of the announcement. But at least we have a time frame for this. If there is going to be an end of unlimited data, I predict it will come with the roll out of new calling plans.
Also, this makes sense in light of the July 6th extended tethering promotion. In the event someone wants to keep tethering after July 6th on their Thunderbolt, it will require a data plan change (adding a paid monthly tethering plan). This is one way for Verizon to force people into the new calling plans. If they are capping data or upping prices for LTE/4G devices (or across the board for all devices - who knows?), this is a great way for Verizon to steal people away from their unlimited data plans. You want tethering? OK. Change your plan to one of our "new" plans with tiered (capped) data and you can have tethering!
I think this "free" tethering was a cold, money grubbing calculation from the beginning. I digress...
Anyway, just passing along what I heard today. Anyone else hear anything similar to this today? I could have some details wrong, and though this is clearly just speculation, I don't want to obfuscate the truth if someone has it on good authority something here isn't true or I have some of the details a little wrong.
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For a vast majority of users have a tiered plan with bucket data (tethering included) would actually be a good thing. For alot of users who frequent this, and other, forums it would not. If the prices are not totally outrageous, ie $20/GB, I see no problem with VZW implimenting a tiered system that included tethering. Its for users like many of us on XDA that it will be a problem, those who regularly go over 2, 3, 4, 5 etc GB a month by constantly flashing, downloading and redownloading apps and the power tetherers (those who play Xbox etc while tethered). I know people who barely hit 500 megs a month on their data plans, so something along the lines of 1GB for a reasonable price would be perfect for them.
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Its for users like many of us on XDA that it will be a problem, those who regularly go over 2, 3, 4, 5 etc GB a month by constantly flashing, downloading and redownloading apps and the power tetherers (those who play Xbox etc while tethered). I know people who barely hit 500 megs a month on their data plans, so something along the lines of 1GB for a reasonable price would be perfect for them.
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Over 12 days of this cycle, my wife hit 0.04 GB... I just hit 11.62 GB (I'm not joking). Tiered would be perfect for her if it's cheaper than the current unlimited plan... for me, I'm praying they grandfather us in!!
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Over 12 days of this cycle, my wife hit 0.04 GB... I just hit 11.62 GB (I'm not joking). Tiered would be perfect for her if it's cheaper than the current unlimited plan... for me, I'm praying they grandfather us in!!
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They have to or let you out of your contract.
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tbns said:
Over 12 days of this cycle, my wife hit 0.04 GB... I just hit 11.62 GB (I'm not joking). Tiered would be perfect for her if it's cheaper than the current unlimited plan... for me, I'm praying they grandfather us in!!
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My wife was hitting .17 gb with her old blackberry and now uses about 3 gb with my old Droid X, I used 6-8 on the X and 8-10 on the Thunderbolt on average, and have went up to 16 gb in one month on the X. I have never tethered. Maybe the shared data will even out prices if they don't grandfather us in (after the T-bolt)
I really think that until they announce plans/prices for the tiered system people are just over reacting to it. Who knows, it might actually be a good thing for them to roll it out. Yeah yeah yeah i know "but we haz unlimited" thats well and good. but if your like me and have more than one smart phone line with it, and one of those lines using 200 megs a month...well its not worth it to have unlimited. I would rather have a small tiered plan for that, or hell even a family data plan with bucket data alotment. But we all know how people are, they have to have their unlimited data plan no matter what, even if they are only using 100 megs.
There is already a $15 plan, and its been around for awhile, for all the people using very little data
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I think this "free" tethering was a cold, money grubbing calculation from the beginning.
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Same business scheme as crack dealers.
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If your like me and have more than one smart phone line with it, and one of those lines using 200 megs a month...well its not worth it to have unlimited. I would rather have a small tiered plan for that, or hell even a family data plan with bucket data alotment. But we all know how people are, they have to have their unlimited data plan no matter what, even if they are only using 100 megs.
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But as 4G extends to more markets, that will change. Ppl will starting downloading/streaming more media & 100-200 megs/month will become a drop in the bucket.
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Unlimited data is already gone for new subs. Tiered data is already in place. Go to the VZ website, it lists all tiers.
Mercutio5 said:
Unlimited data is already gone for new subs. Tiered data is already in place. Go to the VZ website, it lists all tiers.
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you looked at the wrong place. those "tiered" plans are for mobile broadband, ie tablets, mifi and such. for smartphones its still showing unlimited
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Unlimited data is already gone for new subs. Tiered data is already in place. Go to the VZ website, it lists all tiers.
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Huh? Where is that link? I just checked and it still shows "unlimited data" for 4G phones at the $29.99 price
You're all correct.
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My wife was hitting .17 gb with her old blackberry and now uses about 3 gb with my old Droid X, I used 6-8 on the X and 8-10 on the Thunderbolt on average, and have went up to 16 gb in one month on the X. I have never tethered. Maybe the shared data will even out prices if they don't grandfather us in (after the T-bolt)
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I was around 5 GB last month on the Tbolt until Netflix happened. I have done very little tethering this month and my data usage is at 15GB and I still have 4 days left in my billing cycle.
Verizon please force tiered data plans on us I would love a free switch to sprint =P
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AT&T Clarifies Its Policy On Data Throttling, Allows 5GB Of Unaltered Data Flow For L
With mobile data usage continuing to skyrocket and the availability of spectrum scarce, AT&T, like other wireless companies, manages its network in the most fair way possible so that we can provide the best possible mobile broadband experience for all our customers.
How we’re managing the network only affects a small minority of the heaviest smartphone data users still on unlimited plans. Put another way, this does not impact more than 95 percent of our smartphone customers.
Our unlimited plan customers have told us they want more clarity around how the program works and what they can expect. Here’s what customers need to know:
Customers with a 3G or 4G smartphone – who also still have our unlimited data plan – will see speeds reduced if they use 3GB (gigabytes) of data or more in a billing cycle. Speeds will return to normal at the start of the next billing cycle. For context, less than 5 percent of smartphone customers use more than 3GB per month.
For customers with a 4G LTE smartphone – who also still have our unlimited data plan – data speeds will be reduced if usage is 5GB (gigabytes) or more in a billing cycle. Speeds will return to normal at the start of the next billing cycle
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Customers will get a text message from us before experiencing a change in speed.
Even with reduced data speeds, these customers will still be able to email and surf the web, and continue to use an unlimited amount of data each month.
Not impacted by this program, launched last year, are customers on our tiered data plans.
The reason reduced speeds only apply to unlimited smartphone customers is because their data usage is significantly higher than those on tiered plans. For example, in January, the top 5 percent of our unlimited data plan customers used an average of over 50 percent more data than the top 5 percent of customers on tiered plans.
Because spectrum is limited and data usage continues to soar, we manage our network this way to be as fair as possible and so we can provide the best possible mobile broadband experience to everyone.
We encourage all of our customers to use Wi-Fi whenever possible – especially when watching video, which is the most data-intensive activity.
That’s because data activity over Wi-Fi does not count against the threshold for unlimited customers that triggers reduced data speeds or against customers’ tiered data plans. Customers can find out more at www.att.com/datainfo
But some people were getting throttled even when they didn't go over 3gb. I believe they shouldn't throttle for the whole billing cycle. Only when someone is abusing it when there's a lot of traffic in the network, and restore it after that period. But that would probably require a lot of work. I dunno just my opinion.
Never been throttled, I don't use a lot of data.
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But some people were getting throttled even when they didn't go over 3gb. I believe they shouldn't throttle for the whole billing cycle. Only when someone is abusing it when there's a lot of traffic in the network, and restore it after that period. But that would probably require a lot of work. I dunno just my opinion.
Never been throttled, I don't use a lot of data.
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Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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It's still bull. I bought my phone because AT&T said that I was buying a 4G phone and said I was told how fast it was.
They put YouTube, a web browser, an email app and a text messaging app, just to name a few, on my phone.
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It's still bull. I bought my phone because AT&T said that I was buying a 4G phone and said I was told how fast it was.
They put YouTube, a web browser, an email app and a text messaging app, just to name a few, on my phone.
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You're still getting unlimited data. When you signed up, did the contract guarantee you unlimited data at speeds greater than or equal to XXmb/s, or just unlimited data?
Maybe a better way to "CLARIFY" is to change the Plan name from UNlimited to " LIMITED "
That would clear it all up would'nt it?
Geez....ATT you are way too big.
Erik_T said:
Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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Lol and how will it change my opinion? Oh well. Like I said, I don't use that much data anyways.
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Erik_T said:
Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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no reading for most people is pretty freaking hard
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no reading for most people is pretty freaking hard
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Evidently... Lol. Still think it's horse****. I might actually think about Verizon... WOW.
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using data with limited speed is NOT unlimited.
using data with limited speed BY hardware specs, however, is different.
basically, people should just sue att for false advertisement.
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using data with limited speed is NOT unlimited.
using data with limited speed BY hardware specs, however, is different.
basically, people should just sue att for false advertisement.
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yea because its in the contract you sign that they the right to throttle you and any point they choose too
Hmmm.. So what's the default APN on LTE??
I just wanted to throw it out there.. I will probably look this up later myself..
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yea because its in the contract you sign that they the right to throttle you and any point they choose too
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Hmm.. Didn't sign a contract. Though I did feel the need for an iPhone 2g for a few hours.. While I had my infuse and somehow almost used up my whole 2 gigs in 2 days. Something went funky with ATT servers.. Or the infuse. Lol.
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Erik_T said:
Hmm.. Didn't sign a contract. Though I did feel the need for an iPhone 2g for a few hours.. While I had my infuse and somehow almost used up my whole 2 gigs in 2 days. Something went funky with ATT servers.. Or the infuse. Lol.
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So you're saying that you have no service agreement with them?
Then you shouldn't be complaining.
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So you're saying that you have no service agreement with them?
Then you shouldn't be complaining.
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No. Lol. There's a flaw where if you had the original iphone then you could set it up in iTunes and get unlimited data.
In two days, at the beginning of a cycle, when I was on my 2 gig planned (had just got the phone a month or two before..) It decided to go through the roof with my usage. 2 gigs. 2 days...
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So what qualifies as a "LTE phone"? Is the Infuse not an LTE phone??
And does anyone know if this 3GB cap just started?
Because this month I got throttled at 2040mb ... which is... roughly.. 2GB.. right.
I think 5GB sounds fair for an "unlimited" (limited) plan.
I would never go over that!... 3GB... I hover around that every month for sure.
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So what qualifies as a "LTE phone"? Is the Infuse not an LTE phone??
And does anyone know if this 3GB cap just started?
Because this month I got throttled at 2040mb ... which is... roughly.. 2GB.. right.
I think 5GB sounds fair for an "unlimited" (limited) plan.
I would never go over that!... 3GB... I hover around that every month for sure.
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Erik_T said:
No. Lol. There's a flaw where if you had the original iphone then you could set it up in iTunes and get unlimited data.
In two days, at the beginning of a cycle, when I was on my 2 gig planned (had just got the phone a month or two before..) It decided to go through the roof with my usage. 2 gigs. 2 days...
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So you do have a service agreement. A contract. I can guarantee that if you've gotten a subsidized phone from them since your iPhone that you either signed or clicked through a new contract binding you to updated agreements but keeping your unlimited plan.
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So you do have a service agreement. A contract. I can guarantee that if you've gotten a subsidized phone from them since your iPhone that you either signed or clicked through a new contract binding you to updated agreements but keeping your unlimited plan.
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Probably when I finished setting it up in iTunes, it sealed the dev. Idk. Whatever. My contract expires next year. ill have this phone for a while, and keep the plan. And then onto the next phone..
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Here's the deal. Less than 5% of AT&T users have unlimited data. They want the unlimited people gone. They are trying to monetize power-users while managing bandwidth (which is a finite resource) to keep the average users happy. If you had a business and had to choose between keeping 5% of your customers happy, or 95% of your customers happy... you would make the same choice. These decisions aren't about the users today... it's about 2015 when the average smartphone user will use alot more data... and there will be more smartphone users.... etc, etc.
Not saying I condone these decisions... but after all they are a business. They have a finite resource (bandwidth) and have to make as much profit as possible with that finite resource. Bandwidth doesn't grow on trees, and neither does money. End of story.
I've had this phone less than 2 weeks, grandfathered into vzw unlimited data. Needless to say I think vzw is going to hate me...
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I've had this phone less than 2 weeks, grandfathered into vzw unlimited data. Needless to say I think vzw is going to hate me...
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I'm on virgin in canada and last month i used 42gb on my unlimited plan...
no fair i was on t-mobiles $20/month plan with 10gb/month and they 'changed' the plan without notice. so now i'm stuck with 5gb...
I'm only at about 1g use right now, work and home wifi (poor signal area) has been keeping my mobile data use down since I got this phone. I'll probably use about 3gigs next month though. Btw, I can see this thread creating some tension with those who don't have unlimited.
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Lieu10ant said:
no fair i was on t-mobiles $20/month plan with 10gb/month and they 'changed' the plan without notice. so now i'm stuck with 5gb...
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They did the same here. I called them up and they switched me back no problem.
And the purpose of the thread is to.......??????
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Purpose of this thread....Help show why Verizon did away with unlimited data?
No wonder why they are eliminating unlimited, what the heck do you do on your phone to use 28Gb? (tethering i assume)
haha nice. last semester in college, my wired connection wasn't working so i had to 'illegally' tether my atrixs' hspa+ for a week. used about 15gb in a week to watch live streams of the us open. thank god for unlimited data
with the extra ram this phone makes actual real life data speeds sooooo much faster than my other lte phones could do. I'm at 39 gigs so far with billing cycle ending the 29th. And that's without even having the gs3 the whole time, wonder what ill get to next month? Btw no tethering here, I just really like watching HD video
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Not too bad methinks..
I have to laugh at all the people who say a few of us who use high amounts of data is why a carrier will remove unlimited data for everyone. So they feel bitter at us for ruining it for everyone else and would rather blame us than their service provider, since its easier.
Oh please, don't you think these carriers would have just throttled or kicked off us few users, instead of forcing tiered plans on all their customers? Its all because of further maximizing profit, not because of us.
Doesn't bother me at all, I still have unlimited data just can't see how people are able to use that much data on a phone in a month.
Must have to have the phone plugged in all the time.
Most I have ever been able to do is 13 GB. I really had to try for that though.
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betcmrekoapl said:
with the extra ram this phone makes actual real life data speeds sooooo much faster than my other lte phones could do. I'm at 39 gigs so far with billing cycle ending the 29th. And that's without even having the gs3 the whole time, wonder what ill get to next month? Btw no tethering here, I just really like watching HD video
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Hey, you don't happen to live around me do you? I keep getting a busy signal trying to access the data network..
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Hey, you don't happen to live around me do you? I keep getting a busy signal trying to access the data network..
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lol yes i believe i do. luckily i elected to buy the version of the galaxy s 3 that gets preference over others on the data network so sorry i guess everyone will have to wait for me to finish my download before its their turn. best decision i ever made, and to think i actually almost bought the gs3 that you have that gives the busy signal when others are using the network. man im glad i dodged that bullet haha
all sarcasm aside, has anyone ever actually had a problem with using verizons network that can be attributed to data hogs? this isnt 2007 and im not in att using an iphone. big deal, i use a lot of data that i pay for so what. any other user on verizon canuse the exact same amoutn of data as i choose to use bc verizon doesnt throttle the 4g speeds, youll just have to pay more than my price for it. dont hate those of us lucky enough to use all the data we want without paying any overage unless you also go around hating every verizon employee for getting a company discount on the same sevice you pay for. also, those of us on verizon who no longer have the unlimited data plan have access to a discount on upgrades that the unlimited users dont have the smae access to but we sure dont go around flaming others for only having to pay $199 for our $599 phones. every thing is a trade off
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Ignore the disabled data. That was coming from my Samsung Galaxy S II. The one not discontinued is from July 5th till now.
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Yay for forced data limits/throttle in the future. Vzw doesn't guarantee any "grandfathering". It says right in the contract they can change terms on you and it gives you a free out to go to other carriers. The whole –look at what I can do is quite childish. Whatever.
Heck I use 30gb at home on Cox between two computers and a ps3 and pay for 50gb
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A guy over on the Rezound forums hit 1TB. I'm sitting at about 9GB this month.
And for the people bleating about this being why they did away with unlimited data--no. Just shut up. They did it out of pure greed. LTE is cheap, and for every person using 30gb there's 10 people using 500mb. Verizon might be losing money on some customers, but in the aggregate, they were still making money hand over fist, even with unlimited data. But they can make more with shared/tiered. Guess which they went with?
I'm normally around wifi except when I go workout so I rarely break 2gb. Even so I have no problems with data hogs. I've worked a number of years at an isp and I can tell you data hogs are not the problem unless if the network engineers are total idiots. A properly managed network will prevent heavy users from bogging down the network during peak usage.
But many of you guys buy right into the carrier's manufactured bandwidth crisis so they can justify charging $15 per gb.
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Title says it all. With oct 1 being the day VZW starts throttling unlimited customers, how much have you used? My maxx was 169 last month. This month it's at 142 with a few days left.
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Title says it all. With oct 1 being the day VZW starts throttling unlimited customers, how much have you used? My maxx was 169 last month. This month it's at 142 with a few days left.
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Dang! My max was 92GB. Thought that was outlandish. I average around 13-15 GB per month.
How will they decide who gets throttled. Think I read something about those in the top xx% will be throttled.... Can't remember though.
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How will I know if I’m in the top 5% of data users?
As of March 2014, the top 5% of data users were using 4.7 GB or more of data each month.
verizonwireless.com/support/information/data_disclosure
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How will I know if I’m in the top 5% of data users?
As of March 2014, the top 5% of data users were using 4.7 GB or more of data each month.
verizonwireless.com/support/information/data_disclosure
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Thanks for that
i have unlimited, and rarely go over 2 gb (maybe a couple times a year when traveling) but when i do its a lot.... I find it absolutely ludicrous that they do crap like this...
Well not like anything i say can change anything... hmm reminds me of a certain group of folks in washington dc
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Oh my god I used over 70 gigs last month a thought I was a whore. You my friend are downloading to much porn
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Anyone feel any effects of the throttling yet?
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Anyone feel any effects of the throttling yet?
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Verizon canceled the plans to throttle unlimited users yesterday.
Johnny Wong said:
Verizon canceled the plans to throttle unlimited users yesterday.
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Oh thanks for the heads up.... Found this
http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6882339/verizon-calls-off-throttling-unlimited-lte-data
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It's funny I just did a speed test and got 51 mb upload and said so much for throttling. Then saw this post saying they cancelled the policy. I think Verizon is really starting to feel the heat from it's customers. A lot are jumping ship if they are in an area that supports other carriers and Verizon is feeling it. I am sure they have read online and received complaints about this throttling and were told if they did they would lose customers. It doesn't seem smart to upset the customers with out a contract that can leave at anytime.
553GB!
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553GB!
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Hats off to you. I'm impressed
So, for the heavy data users, is it mostly from using the phone as a mobile hotspot? If so, are there any elegant ways of integrating it into the home network? As in, extending it into the home WiFi. I get free internet as part of my poa, but when I move, it would be great if I don't have to pay for home internet and just run my computers off my phone's data plan.
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So, for the heavy data users, is it mostly from using the phone as a mobile hotspot? If so, are there any elegant ways of integrating it into the home network? As in, extending it into the home WiFi. I get free internet as part of my poa, but when I move, it would be great if I don't have to pay for home internet and just run my computers off my phone's data plan.
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I run the wifi hotspot and use that to serve everything.
I never realized how much Sprint was throttling my unlimited data plan. I always thought it was just crappy service from Sprint. Since the government fined AT&T, Sprint and I think T-Mobile stopped the practice.
This month I used 33.57GB /Unlimited. How much did you use?
I use around 18 on average. Sprint is suppose to throttle after 23gb.
http://arstechnica.com/business/201...ited-data-after-customers-use-23gb-per-month/
Thanks for the article. Base on that they apparently cannot/will not throttle me as I updated my phone before today and I am on an "old" unlimited plan AND I don't foresee any need to upgrade my Galaxy Note 5 in two years!
I guess I will not be getting a Christmas card from Sprint anytime soon.
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Really? I am unreasonable?
"Sprint CTO John Saw explained that the system "is intended to protect against a small minority of unlimited customers who use high volumes of data and unreasonably take up network resources during times when the network is constrained."
Am I the only one that find Saw's statement ridiculous? You sell me an unlimited data plan and now you are complaining when I use it! What part of Unlimited am I missing????
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"Sprint CTO John Saw explained that the system "is intended to protect against a small minority of unlimited customers who use high volumes of data and unreasonably take up network resources during times when the network is constrained."
Am I the only one that find Saw's statement ridiculous? You sell me an unlimited data plan and now you are complaining when I use it! What part of Unlimited am I missing????
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what's sad is that you got a lot of corporate white knights here and in lotsa forums that defend this kinda bull. i'm not really a heavy user and spread my data b/t my verizon and sprint phones, but i'm mostly on wifi. if you sell unlimited then screw a limit.
right now 23GB is plenty for me, but I don't see why anyone else who's paid for unlimited shouldn't be able to use it with no limits - it's what they sold and what we pay for!
Im one of the crazies that avergae 60-80gb a month most ive used is 160. I know im ridiculous but i love my unlimited plan!!!
This should be illegal!!! Unlimited but limited??
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This should be illegal!!! Unlimited but limited??
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While I agree it sucks but it's still unlimited data. It's just slower after you consume a certain amount.
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Im one of the crazies that avergae 60-80gb a month most ive used is 160. I know im ridiculous but i love my unlimited plan!!!
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I use my unlimited to tether to my other devices in the vehicle while traveling (I'm typically the one driving), around 6-8 devices in the van at a time and I get well over 200gb at least 3 months out of the year. I refuse to give up my unlimited!
5 gb lol
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35g
300 one month. But over past 2 years I average couple hundred.
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No tether either.
500 to 700gigs
I use between 2 and 7
Usually I use between 4 & 6. Last month I tried to use more & made it up to 16. That required a lot of streaming on LTE.
I have averaged 60+ a month for the past several years. Only ever got one letter saying, "hey, we are watching you."
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