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anyone know of a distributor with stock or stock arriving soon? Expansys reckon 01/08/08 and im not waiting that long...
thats the standard battery?
a quick google shows the earliest as 24th July. Don't you want to wait and see what this extended battery with replacement back is like?
someone1234 said:
thats the standard battery?
a quick google shows the earliest as 24th July. Don't you want to wait and see what this extended battery with replacement back is like?
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hell no, the thinner the better....
yeah i agree.. but it depends on how much thicker the phone is and how bad the existing battery is. At least it won't look ugly with a big ass bulge like some of the other aftermarket batteries
Play.com have the standard battery for £14.99. Out on the 9th
I have 2 on order!! Hehe
Rich
battery charging
How are you planning to charge your two extra batteries when you get them? I went through this on the Kaiser and it is kind of a pain to swap them out just to recharge them. Eventually I bought a third party charging stand with an external battery charger but, after two replacements that did not charge the battery, I gave up. Based on my three days with the standard battery, I would say it woud be a good idea to wait and get the dimensions of the extended battery. I have seen my battery getting drained in 3-4 hours (reminds me of the xda-flame).
Z
walshieau said:
hell no, the thinner the better....
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Yes, but it's possible to make OEM-sized extended batteries... I'm carrying one on my Treo right now, just 25% more battery life.
Seidio does it., just wait.
iPower Pro PoGo
While on the road I'm using the iPower Pro PoGo to change my Diamond. I use an dual usb adapter that simultaneously allows charging and the use of the wired headset.
The PoGo is flat, 1/3" x 2" x 3 1/2", has a standard usb connector for the standard Diamond usb cable and it has at least 20 hours worth of extra charge. It fits nicely in my bag which I carry with me everywhere I go.
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anyone know of a distributor with stock or stock arriving soon? Expansys reckon 01/08/08 and im not waiting that long...
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www.expansys.pt
They have 80 .
chandrasekharm18 said:
While on the road I'm using the iPower Pro PoGo to change my Diamond. I use an dual usb adapter that simultaneously allows charging and the use of the wired headset.
The PoGo is flat, 1/3" x 2" x 3 1/2", has a standard usb connector for the standard Diamond usb cable and it has at least 20 hours worth of extra charge. It fits nicely in my bag which I carry with me everywhere I go.
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The vendor says:
Charging tips for iPod , Sony PSP , Blackberry (all models), Treo 600(s)/700(s), Moto RAZR (V3), Samsung , Nokia , Sony Ericsson phones and other devices that use a mini-USB charging port
So if it is only for mini-USB ports, how can you plug it into the HTC 11 pin connection?
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The vendor says:
So if it is only for mini-USB ports, how can you plug it into the HTC 11 pin connection?
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For charging/synching, the HTC 11-pin IS the miniUSB port.
The extra features that the HTC 11-pin connector (aka extUSB) is that it transports audio as well.
ExtUSB is one reason why I am HTC hardare fo' life.
But yes, anything that can be charged via USB and MiniUSB, can be charged via ExtUSB. Heck, I charge mine with an old Blackberry charger that is 5v @ .5mAh instead of 1mAh.
zorba said:
How are you planning to charge your two extra batteries when you get them? I went through this on the Kaiser and it is kind of a pain to swap them out just to recharge them. Eventually I bought a third party charging stand with an external battery charger but, after two replacements that did not charge the battery, I gave up. Based on my three days with the standard battery, I would say it woud be a good idea to wait and get the dimensions of the extended battery. I have seen my battery getting drained in 3-4 hours (reminds me of the xda-flame).
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I hadn't thought about that but It really isn't going to be often that I will need more that one battery, I am only getting them for when I am out walking and I know its gonna be a long day, nice to have spares! and I will just charge them in the phone the night before!!
I will defiantly be getting an extended one if they ever come out too but for £14.99 each now you can't knock that!!
Rich
got a message from seido.
they will have diamond stuff the end of july. so hopefully the will have an oem battery with more capacity.
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For charging/synching, the HTC 11-pin IS the miniUSB port.
The extra features that the HTC 11-pin connector (aka extUSB) is that it transports audio as well.
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What I meant is that phisically you cannot connect a standard mini USB charger into the Diamond's 11 pin input. As the vendor says the do not provide an adaptor for HTC devices, so maybe he is using some extra stuff purchased somewhere.
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What I meant is that phisically you cannot connect a standard mini USB charger into the Diamond's 11 pin input. As the vendor says the do not provide an adaptor for HTC devices, so maybe he is using some extra stuff purchased somewhere.
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i am not sure if we are talking about the same thing here.
but if you turn around your standard mini usb connection, you can insert it into the 11-pin usb and charge your phone, exchange data (depends on the quality of your cable), active sync etc.
you do not need the 11 pin usb connector for this.
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How are you planning to charge your two extra batteries when you get them? I went through this on the Kaiser and it is kind of a pain to swap them out just to recharge them. Eventually I bought a third party charging stand with an external battery charger but, after two replacements that did not charge the battery, I gave up. Based on my three days with the standard battery, I would say it woud be a good idea to wait and get the dimensions of the extended battery. I have seen my battery getting drained in 3-4 hours (reminds me of the xda-flame).
Z
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There is definitely going to be an extended battery. Also to answer the question above there is also going to be a separate battery charger, so you can charge the battery in the phone and another one in the charger at the same time. Should satisfy most peoples requirements.
And to pre-empt the "how do you know" questions, its all on HTCs Diamond accessories page...
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_phone.aspx?i=163250
Ok, the extended battery isn't there yet, but the desktop charger states that it has two insert covers, one for normal battery and one for extended battery. Also those inserts can be bought separately.
I`ve just bought this from Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2x-Battery-De...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262
Works fine and for the total price of £10.98 for 2 batteries and a charger it seemed a bargain.
The only gripes I have are the HTC cable doesn`t fit the charger, it needs a mini USB cable which luckily I have several of. Also the 3 Leds for showing the charging state are very bright and light up the room.
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For charging/synching, the HTC 11-pin IS the miniUSB port.
The extra features that the HTC 11-pin connector (aka extUSB) is that it transports audio as well.
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It is supposed to export VIDEO also.
I saw somewhere a picture of the cradle with a HTC usb to Cinch original cable. (there is another thread on Video-out debate)
Has anyone heard anything more about the Seidio OEM size extended battery?
They'll sell Thousands!
Ordered a universal one with wall attachment and car attachment and when I connect the USB to microUSB cord the phone doesn't charge. Ordered another stand alone car charger and it, also, doesn't charge. If I attach the USB cord that came with the phone to the wall/car charger it charges fine. Both, specifically said for the "Nexus One". Is it an amp issue? Most microUSB charger in the mall cell phone kiosks won't charge it either. Is it a proprietary microUSB cord that I need or a matter of amps or something?
Why not buy from Monoprice.com?!
I ordered 8 USB cords (2/each of 4 different lengths), 2 Car Chargers, and 2 Wall chargers. All work perfectly fine, and I paid under $25. (Wife has a CLIQ, so we got plenty to work for both of us.)
So, I don't know what your issue is... Other than just not going to Monoprice
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Why not buy from Monoprice.com?!
I ordered 8 USB cords (2/each of 4 different lengths), 2 Car Chargers, and 2 Wall chargers. All work perfectly fine, and I paid under $25. (Wife has a CLIQ, so we got plenty to work for both of us.)
So, I don't know what your issue is... Other than just not going to Monoprice
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well I havent ordered from monoprice since customers got slammed with bogus charges... i guess i could give them another try though, but still... kinda weary
Why? I had over $1300 attempted to be spent at Newegg, and my CC company called me and stopped the charges. Got a new CC in the mail the following day. Some random amount at Apple as well. LOL. Fun times.
(Yes, it happened to me. I'm fairly confident it was from the same issue as others..) But, that doesn't stop me from using a company that makes good products, expecially when they just made such a big mistake. Odds are, it won't be happening again for a long while
Either way... Those are risks with online shopping. You just have to make sure that your method of purchase has fail-safes.
I have a CRAP load of mini USB chargers (all HTC stock) and didn't want to buy more. I bought a bunch of Motorola mini to micro adapters off Overstock.com for $2 a piece and couldn't be happier. I also bought the official Google cradle to avoid additional wear and tear on the microUSB port.
-Mc
I bought a car/home charger from eBay when I had my Motorola Cliq, and my home charger would keep going on/off charging. I later found out that it was the voltage issue, where the charger was giving a maximum of 5 amps and the Motorola Cliq needed 5.1V or something like that.
But most chargers I've bought don't power the Nexus One. What specific voltage or amps should I look for it to have? The two I bought off of eBay specifically said they were for the Nexus One. Neither worked. Sellers are putting any micro SD chargers up for sale assuming they will change the phone. They will not. What technical spec will tell me if it really will charge it?
Could someone post a link to a USB charger that absolutely works? I just bought another one from Best Buy that doesn't charge the Nexus. Made by Rocketfish and is suppose to be universal.
Thats really wierd. Every charger i've tried works fine.
You're charger should be outputting 5V and anywhere from 300mA upwards. There is no max mA limit because the phone will only draw what it needs.
This might sound patronising, and I really dont mean it to, but when you say doesnt charge how do you know?
Do you mean from totally flat it won't turn the phone on and start charging it, or do you mean when the phone is on the battery indicator doesnt show a charging, and the LED doesnt go orange/green?
Or do you mean it never charges to full?
When I plug it in it's as if nothing happens. No light, no thunderbolt symbol on the battery, no screen wake-up, nothing. Nada. Now, the HTC wall charger and usb charger work fine. But if a MicroUSB charger calls itself "universal" it does not mean it will charge the Nexus. The HTC HD2 charger my wife has works fine on the Nexus though.
Hmm strange.
The charge process works like this:
- Charger plugged in causes voltage change on +ve USB line - potential charger detected.
- Phone draws minimal current (50 to 100mA) and tries to negotiate USB power
-- If that suceeds it tries to increase power to 500mA if the USB port supports it. If yes charging starts at 500mA, if not charging starts at 100mA
- If USB negotiation fails, it checks if D+/D- are bridged.
-- If D+/D- are bridged, the phone draws as much current as it can/needs
-- If D+/D- are not bridged, the phone draws a max of 500mA
There's nothing special about the chargers unless they have been wired in some special way for a specific phone. Thats why I'm very surprised these chargers dont work.
I know that if I chop a USB extention cable and cut out D+/D-, my nexus charges at 500mA. I've tried this myself for a totally different purpose. Thats no different to ground and power being wired to a 5v source.
Odd, I have three car USB adaptors and two AC USB adaptors.. All charged the phone, although only the AC charger shipped with the Nexus would do a fast charge, and none of my car chargers would. I found one that was rated 1Ah and soldered the two middle pins, now it works as a fast charger too.
The Motorola P513 car charger (OEM designed for a Droid) gives out 950mA, is super cheap (~$3+shipping), and works great for a fast charge with the Nexus One.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Y8IH2Q/ref=oss_product
pakraider said:
The Motorola P513 car charger (OEM designed for a Droid) gives out 950mA, is super cheap (~$3+shipping), and works great for a fast charge with the Nexus One.
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Thank you sir. I've been trying to find a car charger that guarantees a fast charge.
Just ordered one from Play.com for £3.99 w/ free shipping.
Maybe now I can use GPS for more than an hour...
I dunno.
My motorola charger for my old bluetooth (H780?) works fine, as well as the original google charger. I also have a car charger for my old bluetooth as well.
My suggestion, is to only buy name brand chargers?
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Thank you sir. I've been trying to find a car charger that guarantees a fast charge.
Just ordered one from Play.com for £3.99 w/ free shipping.
Maybe now I can use GPS for more than an hour...
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This P513 has also been the best fast charger for me...
i like to have a spare battery always charged in my pocket ready to go.. why are they not out for the galaxy s already?
And where's the home dock and the active car holder?
Samsung should have had all this ready and being pushed out with the iphone 4g pending release.
I am disappointed, everyone here wants this to be a huge success. And after the delays initially and the lack of access.... *shrug*
Australian site techbuy appears to have them:
http://www.techbuy.com.au/search.as...L&srchSortBy=2&page=1&srchQuery=i9000&x=0&y=0
though maybe they are just listing them without having them yet.. says its 'order-in'
Just buy another micro usb cable and a usb to ac adapter wall charger. Shouldn't cost more than $7 on ebay.
DKYang said:
Just buy another micro usb cable and a usb to ac adapter wall charger. Shouldn't cost more than $7 on ebay.
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that is nothing like an external wall charger and batteries.. you can have 2 batteries charging at once and have spare batteries.. are you dense.. nothing like haveing to charge the battery IN THE PHONE!!!!
not sure if a lot of folks are just unaware, but every phone i've had charged fine from a usb port off my computer
since i started tethering my phone to my laptop (browse the web from family couch) december 2009, i haven't used the wall charger
even if i'm not tethering, i've got a spare usb cable on the desktop, that when i sit down at the desk, the phone or whatever device, gets connected to - far more convenient and fewer items occupying space on the desk
plus, i've got that Tmo car charger that just has a usb port on it's end - so the same cable that i use to tether to the laptop (when in the car), if i'm using the phone in the dock for nav, runs down to the charger - the charger, with no cable hanging off it when not in use, let's me leave the charger in the socket 24/7 - no looking for it in the glove box and untangling it etc
that charger is simply converting the 14V car voltage to 5 V the USB port normally delivers
2 - 3.5 hours seems to take my 1150mah battery from low charge to full
for what it's worth
Lack of available accessories and software bugs, seems to me that Samsung rushed this thing to beat the iphone4 deadline.
But since they sell this thing in so many countries and networks I expect they will have little choice but to support it properly.
dude ita all ther in korea the gmarket got all acessories already
I'm sure once the Galaxy S class family phones for the US are officially on sale, you'll start to see more accessories be available. Just hold the fort for now man. Be patient.
dakine said:
Lack of available accessories and software bugs, seems to me that Samsung rushed this thing to beat the iphone4 deadline.
But since they sell this thing in so many countries and networks I expect they will have little choice but to support it properly.
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Well I'm a happy user of the GS and regarding to the bugs.. I never had a smartphone which worked as flawless as the GS (and this isn't my first phone )
batteries and external battery wall chargers are fineally on ebay even though they show wrong battery a8 in the pict.. hopefully the are correct battery.
i've bought two batteries off ebay weren't that good on svc life -
one was complete junk - wouldn't fit unless i forced it and then the phone displayed an error msg
i've come to the conclusion electronic items (especially memory cards) are best not sourced on ebay
that review that engadget.com had about aftermarket batteries, really about the extra capacity batteries that ended up demonstrating that only the really oversized (ie double capacity batteries) even came close to their state mah rating, ended up suggesting the OEM batteries are the best way to go
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that is nothing like an external wall charger and batteries.. you can have 2 batteries charging at once and have spare batteries.. are you dense.. nothing like haveing to charge the battery IN THE PHONE!!!!
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Dense? You said this on the title which I assume is your question, but can't tell cause of your grammar, "damnit where are the spare batteries and wall chargers already." How the hell was I suppose to know that you wanted a external battery charger from that writing. Learn to write so others can understand what you are saying. Nothing in your question indicated an external battery charger. Just spare batteries and a wall charger. Sorry for not being psychic.
i see a lot of 1500mAh batteries on ebay, but the feedbacks from the sellers sounds like they are dogdgy, also the wall chargers looks horrible it's supposed to be a universar charger, but darn, those thing looks scary, i don't want a battery to blow up mid charge.
anyone find a trusty spare battery and charger caddles yet?
rodh257 said:
Australian site techbuy appears to have them:
http://www.techbuy.com.au/search.as...L&srchSortBy=2&page=1&srchQuery=i9000&x=0&y=0
though maybe they are just listing them without having them yet.. says its 'order-in'
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i like this one
Samsung Desk Stand w. Battery Charger - To Suit Samsung Galaxy S i9000 - Black
http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/146642/MOBILE_PHONES_ACCESSORIES_-_CHARGERS/Samsung/EBH973USBEBSTD.asp
Apparantly some accessories are in optus shops now (I haven't personally checked, but someone on whirlpool mentioned they got a case).
Online aswell, although techbuy seems a little cheaper and has more range.
http://store.optussolutions.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=i9000&x=62&y=21
looks like samsung USA heard you
they added some i9000 Tmobile vibrant accessories to their US webpage
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...one-accessories/index.idx?pagetype=accsubtype
Has anyone tried any of these? :
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-Battery-home...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4aa318baac
$15 for 2 batteries and a charger...
Cheap.... tempting, but do you get what you pay for? I've never had good experiences with fake/unoffiical batteries.
I just received my Mugen dock and it's pretty cool: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...usb-desktop-cradle-with-2nd-battery-slot.html
But it comes with 2 micro usb sockets in the rear; 1 for ac charging, and 1 for usb connection/charging.
If I connect only the one from my pc's usb port, the data works, but it will not charge the spare battery (which I already anticipated). If I connect only to the ac port, it charges both the phone and the spare battery (and spare battery has a nice little led charging indicator on the rear of the dock).
I'm wondering if it would be a bad thing to connect BOTH chargers. Anyone else have this dock?
**phone must be without a case to fit correctly into the dock**
You can connect both cable and it will connect to the computer and also charge the phone and the rear battery , just received my real happy with it best dock purchase in my opinion.
I accidentally threw out the little manual that came with my dock. Do you still have yours? What are the different led light patterns for the spare battery? I put a battery in, and it's just a solid red light. Not sure if it's charging.
Sweet. Been waiting for a dock like this to come out.
How long did it take for you guys to get the dock?
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I accidentally threw out the little manual that came with my dock. Do you still have yours? What are the different led light patterns for the spare battery? I put a battery in, and it's just a solid red light. Not sure if it's charging.
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Solid red is charging
Solid green is charged
And I think blinking there is something wrong... I don't have the booklet with me right now
Sent from my G2x
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How long did it take for you guys to get the dock?
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I ordered mine June 27th and it arrived July 18th. It came with a European power block...but that didn't bother me, because I just plugged the charger I already used into it. I suppose I could always buy a converter at some point.
Would I be able to plug this dock into a wall charging unit and into my computer as the same time? I want to be able to have it charging at night but also have the option to mount it to my computer without having to move or unplug anything. I bought a cheap one from Hong Kong that should have done this, but being a piece of cheap bootleg trash, my computer wouldn't even read the dock.
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Would I be able to plug this dock into a wall charging unit and into my computer as the same time? I want to be able to have it charging at night but also have the option to mount it to my computer without having to move or unplug anything. I bought a cheap one from Hong Kong that should have done this, but being a piece of cheap bootleg trash, my computer wouldn't even read the dock.
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Well, sort of. I have both ac and usb chargers connected to my dock simultaneously. The spare battery is always charged by the ac, and the phone gets charged and connected by the usb (by default). Most times, that's fine for me...especially if I'm charging it overnight, then the speed of the usb charging is fine. Now, if I turn off my computer, then the dock will switch to using the ac charger for the phone. Also, sometimes if it's in the middle of the day and I just want a quick recharge, I simply unplug the usb cable from the back of it and re-insert my phone so that it charges with the usb.
Think I'd be able to charge my spare Andida 1980mAh battery in it? It's the same thickness as the stock battery.
Yes, I also have the Andida 1980 as a spare, and it fits and charges fine.
I want a charging dock for my S4 that will feed the phone the full amount of power that it can take, for quickest charging. I believe the stock charger that came with it supplies 2 amps.
I also would like said charger to have a slot for charging a spare battery at the same time.
All the charging docks I've found so far only claim to supply 1 amp to the phone, or less. Except one dock I found that did say it outputs 1.6 amps.
Does anybody know of a charging dock that will supply the full 2 amps? How about one that also has a slot for charging a spare battery?
Thanks.
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I want a charging dock for my S4 that will feed the phone the full amount of power that it can take, for quickest charging. I believe the stock charger that came with it supplies 2 amps.
I also would like said charger to have a slot for charging a spare battery at the same time.
All the charging docks I've found so far only claim to supply 1 amp to the phone, or less. Except one dock I found that did say it outputs 1.6 amps.
Does anybody know of a charging dock that will supply the full 2 amps? How about one that also has a slot for charging a spare battery?
Thanks.
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Would you like it to serve you eggs and ham as well?
Damn.. you are really asking for so much and not nearly searching for it yourself enough if that makes sense.
There are charging docks that have a battery charger slot as well. They have a microusb port for power input. You can use a 2A charger with it and I believe it should be charging the phone at 2A but only when you're not charging the spare battery. I do not have the link as I saw it while randomly browsing through S4 docks on eBay. It's easy enough to find.
No, thanks. If it could cook my eggs and ham, it would be too bulky. LOL!
I looked through roughly 150 listing on eBay. I saw a whole bunch that said 1A output. And a few that were 700 mA, and at least one that was 500 mA. And exactly one model, available from a few different vendors, that said 1.6A output.
I did not see any that said 2A output. Just because the wall wart can supply as much as 2 amps, doesn't mean the charger will actually output that much to the phone.
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No, thanks. If it could cook my eggs and ham, it would be too bulky. LOL!
I looked through roughly 150 listing on eBay. I saw a whole bunch that said 1A output. And a few that were 700 mA, and at least one that was 500 mA. And exactly one model, available from a few different vendors, that said 1.6A output.
I did not see any that said 2A output. Just because the wall wart can supply as much as 2 amps, doesn't mean the charger will actually output that much to the phone.
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My advice, is you should risk it.
If you're looking a product with such precise specs, I'm afraid you're not going to find it.
I messaged several different ebay sellers last night to ask if their charger is really only 1A and if they'll be having a 2A model. So far, I've gotten responses from 3 or 4. All of them have said sorry, we only have 1A. Please note, it will charge more slowly.
Update info. This may be old news to many, but here it is.
I had an online chat with a Supervisor at Seidio this morning. Their website has 2 charging docks for the S4 and neither lists charging output.
They told me that the dock will output whatever the wall adapter supplies. The charging dock is a passthrough. So, if I use the stock OEM charger with the Seidio dock, my phone will (allegedly) still receive 2A of charging current.
This may have been intuitively obvious to some, but it wasn't to me.
So, my quest is now much easier. Apparently, the docks I looked at on eBay that say 1A charging output must say so because the supplied wall adapter only provides 1A. And ones that say that but don't include the AC adapter are just making an assumption about that AC adapter you'll use.
BUT, though the phone charging port may be a passthrough, the slot for charging a second battery (on docks that offer that) would have the charging logic/circuitry built into the dock, so that could still be limited to 1A or less. At least, that's what I think. Could be wrong.
Regardless, i ordered a cheap dual charging dock off eBay that should be here by Friday. Using Galaxy Charging Current (a free app in the Play store), my phone shows 1900 mA charging current when plugged into the OEM charger directly. After I get the dock I ordered, I'll test that and report back.
If the dock will charge the phone at full speed, I can live with the spare battery being charged more slowly.
stuartv said:
I want a charging dock for my S4 that will feed the phone the full amount of power that it can take, for quickest charging. I believe the stock charger that came with it supplies 2 amps.
I also would like said charger to have a slot for charging a spare battery at the same time.
All the charging docks I've found so far only claim to supply 1 amp to the phone, or less. Except one dock I found that did say it outputs 1.6 amps.
Does anybody know of a charging dock that will supply the full 2 amps? How about one that also has a slot for charging a spare battery?
Thanks.
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It's NOT a dock but a charger and it does come with an OEM spare battery. It charges a battery from 0 to 100% in about 4 hours, which is faster than your phone would deplete a battery, even when gaming. Paid $47, no shipping from Amazon
I see the price have changed a bit meanwhile but it's worth it if they still don't charge any shipping. Ships directly from Korea (made in Korea - both, charger and battery)
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Update info. This may be old news to many, but here it is.
I had an online chat with a Supervisor at Seidio this morning. Their website has 2 charging docks for the S4 and neither lists charging output.
They told me that the dock will output whatever the wall adapter supplies. The charging dock is a passthrough. So, if I use the stock OEM charger with the Seidio dock, my phone will (allegedly) still receive 2A of charging current.
This may have been intuitively obvious to some, but it wasn't to me.
So, my quest is now much easier. Apparently, the docks I looked at on eBay that say 1A charging output must say so because the supplied wall adapter only provides 1A. And ones that say that but don't include the AC adapter are just making an assumption about that AC adapter you'll use.
BUT, though the phone charging port may be a passthrough, the slot for charging a second battery (on docks that offer that) would have the charging logic/circuitry built into the dock, so that could still be limited to 1A or less. At least, that's what I think. Could be wrong.
Regardless, i ordered a cheap dual charging dock off eBay that should be here by Friday. Using Galaxy Charging Current (a free app in the Play store), my phone shows 1900 mA charging current when plugged into the OEM charger directly. After I get the dock I ordered, I'll test that and report back.
If the dock will charge the phone at full speed, I can live with the spare battery being charged more slowly.
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Hope it works out. The dock i ordered from seidio for my evo 3d did not charge at full power with the supplied adapter. I used a diff cable and power source and the results were better, but still not very good. Most nights I simply removed the cable and plugged the phone directly to it bypassing the dock, kind of defeated the purpose. I hope to find one that keeps the S4 charged.
Well, I received my eBay dock today, 2 days early. It is this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111066155507?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
And when I plug it in and put the phone in it, I get a message that the connected charger is not compatible with this phone. And the phone shows a red X over the battery icon in the notification bar, and doesn't charge at all.
I tried it using the OEM charger and cable, the cable that came with the dock, and I also tried both cables using my OEM charger that came with my Note 10.1 tablet.
Exactly one time, when I put the phone into the dock, it didn't display a message and Galaxy Charging Current (app in Play) showed that it was charging at 1900 mA. But, several times before, and every time after that, it just displayed the message and wouldn't charge at all.
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It's NOT a dock but a charger and it does come with an OEM spare battery. It charges a battery from 0 to 100% in about 4 hours, which is faster than your phone would deplete a battery, even when gaming. Paid $47, no shipping from Amazon
I see the price have changed a bit meanwhile but it's worth it if they still don't charge any shipping. Ships directly from Korea (made in Korea - both, charger and battery)
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I've seen that and that's a big "no way". My normal deal is, if I run out of battery, it's because I'm out and about. Traveling on a plane. Riding my motorcycle. Whatever. Situations where I don't have the option to plug in. So, I swap batteries on the go and the charge when I get to where I'm going.
This charger on Amazon would require me to carry it, plus my phone charger, plus an additional phone charger to run the separate battery charger. If I were just going to share my phone charger between the phone and the separate charger, I would rather just have the phone on the charger and, when it's fully charged, swap batteries, to charge the next one - not swap the charger cable over to the separate battery charger.
if I were going to go the route of a separate battery charger, I would spend $7 or so on eBay on one of the ones that has a flip-out plug built in and plugs right into the wall. That is the kind I have been using for a while to charge my Rezound batteries when traveling.
The biggest problem with those is that they charge the battery at something like 350mA. Ridiculously slow!
stuartv said:
I've seen that and that's a big "no way". ...if I run out of battery, it's because I'm out and about. Traveling on a plane. Riding my motorcycle. Whatever. Situations where I don't have the option to plug in. So, I swap batteries on the go and the charge when I get to where I'm going.
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...buddy, that's EXACTLY what this is. It simply gives you the option of charging another OEM battery (in the charger NOT in the phone) BEFORE you go out and about and then swap them as you need.
NO, it's NOT charging as slow as you suggest. They use a technology called direct charge which means that it draws as much (or as little) as your wall plug allows it. In other words if you plug it in the PC USB, then yes, you'll have to wait until you grow a nice thick beard, but if you plug it in your original 2A charger, it'll charge the battery from 0-100% in about 4 hours or less.
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This charger on Amazon would require me to carry it, plus my phone charger, plus an additional phone charger to run the separate battery charger.
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Absolutely NOT true:
1. You ONLY need to carry the charger if you plan on recharging the depleted battery BEFORE doing another swap - that's at least 12-15 hours on EXTENSIVELY using BOTH batteries - that's 12-15 hours screen on!!!
2. ONE phone charger can be used on either/or - you'll never have to charge them both in the same time (that's the idea with swapping the batteries, right?)
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If I were going to go the route of a separate battery charger, I would spend $7 or so on eBay on one of the ones that has a flip-out plug built in and plugs right into the wall.
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Up to you buddy, but usually you get what you pay for. The one I suggested comes with an OEM battery. I always suggest using this method over any battery pack as an OEM battery will ALWAYS give you just as much "juice" (this translates into running time) as the...yeah, you guessed it, the Original Equipment Manufacturer's battery. Although the battery packs manufacturers, they all claim huge capacities and running times, this mostly never holds true to the advertised specifications. It's called marketing
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...buddy, that's EXACTLY what this is. It simply gives you the option of charging another OEM battery (in the charger NOT in the phone) BEFORE you go out and about and then swap them as you need.
NO, it's NOT charging as slow as you suggest. They use a technology called direct charge which means that it draws as much (or as little) as your wall plug allows it. In other words if you plug it in the PC USB, then yes, you'll have to wait until you grow a nice thick beard, but if you plug it in your original 2A charger, it'll charge the battery from 0-100% in about 4 hours or less.
Absolutely NOT true:
1. You ONLY need to carry the charger if you plan on recharging the depleted battery BEFORE doing another swap - that's at least 12-15 hours on EXTENSIVELY using BOTH batteries - that's 12-15 hours screen on!!!
2. ONE phone charger can be used on either/or - you'll never have to charge them both in the same time (that's the idea with swapping the batteries, right?)
Up to you buddy, but usually you get what you pay for. The one I suggested comes with an OEM battery. I always suggest using this method over any battery pack as an OEM battery will ALWAYS give you just as much "juice" (this translates into running time) as the...yeah, you guessed it, Original Equipment Manufacturer's battery. Although the battery packs manufacturers, they all claim miraculous capacities, they NEVER actually last as per specifications. It's called marketing
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I don't think you're getting me. The point is, I get to the end of the day and I need to charge my phone AND the battery I used up. In order to charge both at the same time, using this Samsung separate battery case/charger, I would have to have 2 actual chargers. One to attach to my phone, to charge that battery, and one to attach to the separate case/charger.
Get it now?
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- I start the day with 2 fully charged batteries. One is in the phone.
- I ride my motorcycle all day, streaming music via Bluetooth to my helmet, and talking on the phone while I'm riding.
- Before I'm done riding for the day, my battery dies, so I swap it.
- I continue riding, etc.
- I get where I'm going and I'm ready to go to bed.
- I now have a dead battery in one hand and phone with a partly depleted battery in the other hand. I want them to both charge while I'm sleeping.
This separate case/charger does not help me.
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I don't think you're getting me. The point is, I get to the end of the day and I need to charge my phone AND the battery I used up. In order to charge both at the same time, using this Samsung separate battery case/charger, I would have to have 2 actual chargers. One to attach to my phone, to charge that battery, and one to attach to the separate case/charger.
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No offense, but I believe you don't get it. You say: "I need to charge my phone AND the battery". I should ask you then, do you still need to charge your phone and the BATTERIES (this is the plural, meaning two or more) should you go by my suggestion?
Either, or, if you're such a heavy user and you find yourself at the end of the day with 2 or more depleted batteries on a regular basis, then this becomes even more handy - admittedly, yes, using a second wall plug...or, again, if you're such a heavy user, then buy a 3rd OEM battery - case solved. (1 charger, 2 extra batteries, 1 USB cable, 1 wall plug)
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No offense, but I believe you don't get it. You say: "I need to charge my phone AND the battery". I should ask you then, do you still need to charge your phone and the BATTERIES (this the plural, meaning two or more) should you go by my suggestion?
Either, or, if you're such a heavy user and you get to deplete 2 (or more) batteries on a regular basis, then this becomes even more handy - admittedly, yes, using a second wall plug. Furthermore, again, if you're such a heavy user, then buy a 3rd OEM battery - case solved. (1 charger, 2 extra batteries, 1 wall plug)
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You obviously didn't read my whole last post. Otherwise, you would understand that saying "I need to charge my phone AND the battery" is a short way of saying "I need to charge the battery that's in my phone (but not totally dead yet) AND the battery that I depleted earlier in the day."
And if I added a 3rd OEM battery (which you would also see that there is no need for, if you read my whole previous post), it still would not change the fact that, at the end of the day, I have 2 batteries I need to charge and only 1 wall charger to use. So, the separate case/charger still does not help.
If I charge the battery in my phone and then want to use my one and only wall charger to charge the battery that's in the case/charger, I may as well just swap the batteries and charge the second battery in my phone. Thus, I would save running down the battery that's in my phone while the other battery is charging in the case/charger AND I would save spending $50 on the case/charger when I just used my coupon last night and got an OEM battery straight from Samsung for only $20.
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You obviously didn't read my whole last post. Otherwise, you would understand that saying "I need to charge my phone AND the battery" is a short way of saying "I need to charge the battery that's in my phone (but not totally dead yet) AND the battery that I depleted earlier in the day."
And if I added a 3rd OEM battery (which you would also see that there is no need for, if you read my whole previous post), it still would not change the fact that, at the end of the day, I have 2 batteries I need to charge and only 1 wall charger to use. So, the separate case/charger still does not help.
If I charge the battery in my phone and then want to use my one and only wall charger to charge the battery that's in the case/charger, I may as well just swap the batteries and charge the second battery in my phone. Thus, I would save running down the battery that's in my phone while the other battery is charging in the case/charger AND I would save spending $50 on the case/charger when I just used my coupon last night and got an OEM battery straight from Samsung for only $20.
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OK, now I did get what you were saying (admittedly, I didn't read the whole post initially) but I still believe that carrying a second set (wall charger + USB cable) would render a better overall usage time without compromising on convenience or quality (again, due to using a certified OEM battery). Think about it, the only "compromise" you're making is carrying another set - which is nothing, both in terms of money and used space/volume.
So, your on-the-go package would consist of: 1 Samsung charger, 1 extra battery and 2 sets of wall chargers/USB cables.
Now, we're getting somewhere!
Your alternative would cost me something like $70 for the case/charger (w/battery) plus a second AC adapter.
My alternative will cost me less than $30. $20 that I already spent on a second OEM battery, plus less than $10 for a wall charger like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Charging-Cr...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item27d35082af
And I have less "pieces" to carry around.
Of course, the cheap wall charger won't charge the battery as quickly. But, I have been using a charger just like that for my Rezound batteries for a while now and it always seems to manage to get the job done overnight.
However, the PREFERRED solution is what I asked about in my OP in this thread. I want a dock that will supply full power to the phone and a spare battery at the same time. As I posted later in this thread, it now seems that most any charging dock should supply full power to the phone (as long as the AC adapter is providing 2A). Those docks still won't probably give full power to charge the spare battery, but I can live with that. So, with a dock like that, I would carry the same number of "pieces", but I'd have the advantage of having a dock to prop my phone up next to the bed, so I can see it.
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Update info. This may be old news to many, but here it is.
I had an online chat with a Supervisor at Seidio this morning. Their website has 2 charging docks for the S4 and neither lists charging output.
They told me that the dock will output whatever the wall adapter supplies. The charging dock is a passthrough. So, if I use the stock OEM charger with the Seidio dock, my phone will (allegedly) still receive 2A of charging current.
This may have been intuitively obvious to some, but it wasn't to me.
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I can 100% attest to this NOT being true. I have my OEM Samsung S4 2A charger hooked up to my Seidio Innodock Jr. at it receives a MAX of 1020mA. Yes, I realize it isn't the exact charger you are looking for since it doesn't have the spare battery compartment, but Seidio is NOT being truthful to you when they say that it is "a passthrough" dock. Just a heads up!
KryptosXLayer2 said:
I can 100% attest to this NOT being true. I have my OEM Samsung S4 2A charger hooked up to my Seidio Innodock Jr. at it receives a MAX of 1020mA. Yes, I realize it isn't the exact charger you are looking for since it doesn't have the spare battery compartment, but Seidio is NOT being truthful to you when they say that it is "a passthrough" dock. Just a heads up!
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What are you using to determine your max of 1020A? Galaxy Charging Current? Battery Monitor Widget?
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What are you using to determine your max of 1020A? Galaxy Charging Current? Battery Monitor Widget?
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Both, they both display the same data - the BMW widget takes longer to update since I paid for the full version of GCC
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Both, they both display the same data - the BMW widget takes longer to update since I paid for the full version of GCC
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I have both and they do not display the same data. As far as I can tell, GCC shows the actual full incoming current. OTOH, BMW shows the current being used to charge the battery.
When I plug in my OEM charger, GCC shows 1900. But, if the screen is using 100 and other stuff running is using another 100, the BMW would only show 1700.
So, as far as your post about the Innodock, if GCC shows 1020, then that's what I would believe. But, if it's BMW that's telling you 1020, then that could simply be because there is other stuff using almost 900 mA of current.
For the record, I looked through my BMW Usage log from last night when my phone was on the charger. The log shows every 5 minutes, I think. It only had one log entry where it showed 1992. All the rest were in the 1500 - 1600 range or less. And the phone screen was off that whole time.