Is there a way to prevent specific apps from running at all, ever? I have a Samsung Captivate and I have several apps that are open in the background upon boot-up and at other random times. Now I know that this is fine normally on the Android OS, but I do not use these apps EVER as I have better alternatives from the Market.
They are the built in TouchWiz versions of
E-Mail (I use the GMail app instead)
Music Player (I use DoubleTwist instead)
Video Player (I use RockPlayer instead)
Messaging (I use Google Voice instead).
Since I absolutely never use these apps, and even have them hidden from my application list in LauncherPro, I would love to disable them from ever running again. Unfortunately I cannot uninstall them as doing so apparently causes instability with the built in Samsung TouchWiz UI.
As a side note, I know this is concerning a specific phone to a degree, but I think it's more fitting as a general Android OS question. If not, mods please move it to the Captivate Q&A section.
Uninstall them. That is, if you're phone is rooted. If it isn't, probably not a whole lot of easy fixes.
Just search XDA for uninstalling apps on/from system. There are several threads floating around on the subject.
GinoAMelone said:
Uninstall them. That is, if you're phone is rooted. If it isn't, probably not a whole lot of easy fixes.
Just search XDA for uninstalling apps on/from system. There are several threads floating around on the subject.
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Unfortunately I cannot uninstall them as doing so apparently causes instability with the built in Samsung TouchWiz UI.
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Some of the stock Samsung apps can be safely uninstalled. The ones I listed cannot be. That's why I'm trying to find a solution to prevent them from running.
glio1337 said:
Some of the stock Samsung apps can be safely uninstalled. The ones I listed cannot be. That's why I'm trying to find a solution to prevent them from running.
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have you tried looking for SGS tools on the market. I have used it to get rid of a bunch of apps that were stock. I dont think these will brick your phone if you get rid of the apps you discussed but you might want to do a back up just in case. The phone defenitely has to be rroted for this though
Try autostarts. Cheap paid app for what you are looking for.
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i don't know anything about your platform, but I can tell you there is little difference between uninstalling, and preventing an app from being triggered by an event. Auto starts will do just that stop event / semaphore queues from accessing the resources it needs. Your requesting app will spin ( wait in queue ). You can how ever judiciously use autostarts to prevent activation by specific events ( of those apps which you don't like) which may be acceptable to the operation of those requesting apps ( the ones which cause the instability you mentioned). Trial and error. But autostarts is kind, it keeps the name of the semaphore which you blocked with a line through it ( so you can undo ). Just saying..
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I have bought some apps from the Android Market which I no longer want to use. Is there any way to remove them from my "Not Installed" list on Android Market?
This is not a Galaxy Note related problem but a general Android related one. So in the general Android forum you will get much easier and faster an answer.
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'No, there isn't' would've been a much shorter reply
This is the one Android annoyance nobody seems to care about doing anything to fix.
There must be some leftover bits and pieces somewhere to remove from apps that get into Not Installed. On my phone the only apps that have gone there are four out of the many pre-installed apps I had no use for.
I've never had any other apps, sideloaded or market downloads, go to not installed after uninstalling with the built in app management.
Using other tools like SDX Stock App Remover can cause that to happen. For some of those, using SDX to put the apk back then using root explorer to remove it fixed the not installed entry.
Searching for a way to remove all trace of Sprint's NASCAR and football apps, TeleNav and Samsung MediaHub.
Titanium Backup shows there's some database files for two of them but does not show the full path to their location.
When someone with a lot of Android knowledge gets annoyed by that, then we'll see a fix. until then it looks like we're stuck with junk we do not want on our phones.
The history is held on Google's server. If you do a wipe-data+cache on the market app, that's all you can do on the phone end, beyond that it's just pulling data from Google.
Have a look at all the junk on your market account on the website.
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Right, I'm a PowerAMP pro user, but with a pretty old phone. The latest app is working but it's slow and sometimes lags. The poweramp site also offers the old 1.4 version which works right for me. Now, all is fine and dandy but I;m a bit annoyed by the app always showing up there to be updated. So I searched for a method to detach the app from the market and learnt that the bug has been solved long ago and apps can't be detached. So I tried changing the app's signature, of course with no luck, my android dev skills being close to absolute zero.
So I ask you, is there any way to do this? I am not pirating the app, so don't worry
I'm also trying to convince the developer to make an unsigned version of the app specifically for old timers like me, but with no success until now..
Just use LBE Privacy guard and freeze internet connection permission for this particular app..
So it will not connect to net and not telling you that new version is available..
we all should be polite enough to press thanks for anyone who helped US.
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Right, I'm a PowerAMP pro user, but with a pretty old phone. The latest app is working but it's slow and sometimes lags. The poweramp site also offers the old 1.4 version which works right for me. Now, all is fine and dandy but I;m a bit annoyed by the app always showing up there to be updated. So I searched for a method to detach the app from the market and learnt that the bug has been solved long ago and apps can't be detached. So I tried changing the app's signature, of course with no luck, my android dev skills being close to absolute zero.
So I ask you, is there any way to do this? I am not pirating the app, so don't worry
I'm also trying to convince the developer to make an unsigned version of the app specifically for old timers like me, but with no success until now..
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If it doesnt need to connect to the internet for anything else you could use droidwall to block it from accessing the playstore
If your rooted you could use blackmart to download the app and never have to update it
Or see the updates notifications saying there's an update
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Right, I'm a PowerAMP pro user, but with a pretty old phone. The latest app is working but it's slow and sometimes lags. The poweramp site also offers the old 1.4 version which works right for me. Now, all is fine and dandy but I;m a bit annoyed by the app always showing up there to be updated. So I searched for a method to detach the app from the market and learnt that the bug has been solved long ago and apps can't be detached. So I tried changing the app's signature, of course with no luck, my android dev skills being close to absolute zero.
So I ask you, is there any way to do this? I am not pirating the app, so don't worry
I'm also trying to convince the developer to make an unsigned version of the app specifically for old timers like me, but with no success until now..
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I know Titanium Backup can detach apps, though I am not sure if it is available in the free version. However, I do recommend the paid version of Titanium Backup anyway.
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I know Titanium Backup can detach apps, though I am not sure if it is available in the free version. However, I do recommend the paid version of Titanium Backup anyway.
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I have never been able to make that function actually work and I've tried with several apps that I don't want updates for.
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On a related note, is there a way to remove apps from the "My Apps"list? It is really annoying to have to scroll through a list of apps containing tons of apps that you may have tried for a while and then uninstalled when you need to reinstall something. And why is the "My Apps" list in random order and not alphabetical?
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On a related note, is there a way to remove apps from the "My Apps"list? It is really annoying to have to scroll through a list of apps containing tons of apps that you may have tried for a while and then uninstalled when you need to reinstall something. And why is the "My Apps" list in random order and not alphabetical?
"Dark is the night, I'm just a lonesome ol' shootin' star."
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As far as I know (and after some quick Googling), there is no way to remove any apps from the giant "My Apps" list. However, I use the Appbrain android market replacement, and it lets you customize your lists and sort them better. You can remove devices from view though.
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As far as I know (and after some quick Googling), there is no way to remove any apps from the giant "My Apps" list. However, I use the Appbrain android market replacement, and it lets you customize your lists and sort them better. You can remove devices from view though.
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Thanks, I will definitely look into that and continue to research the issue as well. If I find any other solutions, I won't hesitate to post an update.
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Hi guys, not sure if this post belongs here or in the developers section but I recently ran into major problem using Action Launcher and since it seems to be growing in popularity I thought I should post what I found and see if anyone else if experiencing this as well. I'm running the latest stable build of Pacman rom and I installed Action Launcher but it had too many bugs to be a daily driver so I decided to uninstall it, which is where I ran into my problem. Once Action Launcher is installed, it does not allow itself to be uninstalled. The uninstall button becomes completely grayed out. I either have to use Titanium or uninstall through the Play store, which is very weird for a user installed app. I tried contacting the developer but there was no help there. This is very strange. I installed in multiple times just to check and even re-flashed my rom and it still becomes uninstallable upon being installed. I've tried every launcher I've ever bought and none of them exhibit this behaviour.
Can anyone else confirm that this is happening? I posted on the developer's google+ forum and at least one other person is experiencing this but I would love to find out if this is a wide spread problem. Also, it is not installed as system app, since someone already asked me that and all the defaults are cleared so it's not even listed as the default launcher. It's all very weird and I don't know if this is on the end of the rom or the app. Can someone help with a possible explanation or answer?
I would suggest removing the apk manually from the system.
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What does the app do that requires it to call phone numbers directly? This could be a red flag as a lot of malware today consists of bad apps calling premium numbers for direct monetary gain.
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What does the app do that requires it to call phone numbers directly? This could be a red flag as a lot of malware today consists of bad apps calling premium numbers for direct monetary gain.
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You know I never really looked at launcher permissions closely enough considering how widely in use they are by the android community, I'm just assuming these are basic permissions every launcher requests. The permissions themselves don't bother me. I'm sure the call numbers directly permission is there because the app allows you to add and call contacts directly from a folder/cover.
I'm more curious about why the app becomes uninstallable after being installed. It's just a behaviour I've never noticed from any other app I've downloaded from the Play store. I would love to be able to explain it but the developer is pretty lax about getting back in touch with people so I thought I would pose the question to the xda community.
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I would suggest removing the apk manually from the system.
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No, the app is uninstallable from the Play store and even using third party apps but for some reason not through the system ui, at least not with Pacman rom and I'm pretty sure that shouldn't be the case. I just want to know if other people have experienced something similar, using Pacman or any other rom.
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You know I never really looked at launcher permissions closely enough considering how widely in use they are by the android community, I'm just assuming these are basic permissions every launcher requests. The permissions themselves don't bother me. I'm sure the call numbers directly permission is there because the app allows you to add and call contacts directly from a folder/cover.
I'm more curious about why the app becomes uninstallable after being installed. It's just a behaviour I've never noticed from any other app I've downloaded from the Play store. I would love to be able to explain it but the developer is pretty lax about getting back in touch with people so I thought I would pose the question to the xda community.
No, the app is uninstallable from the Play store and even using third party apps but for some reason not through the system ui, at least not with Pacman rom and I'm pretty sure that shouldn't be the case. I just want to know if other people have experienced something similar, using Pacman or any other rom.
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What he meant was since you have rooted the phone, you can use a file manager to directly remove the apk from the /data folder, hence removing the problem for you.
Also, the app could become uninstallable for several reasons (ROM compatibility issues, version issues, or a specific feature designed to prevent deletion). I would not immediately suspect malware though, as malware would also be coded to not appear in the apps dashboard in the first place, so that you would not be aware of it, unless it was a bad app pretending to be something else (games, etc.)
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What he meant was since you have rooted the phone, you can use a file manager to directly remove the apk from the /data folder, hence removing the problem for you.
Also, the app could become uninstallable for several reasons (ROM compatibility issues, version issues, or a specific feature designed to prevent deletion). I would not immediately suspect malware though, as malware would also be coded to not appear in the apps dashboard in the first place, so that you would not be aware of it, unless it was a bad app pretending to be something else (games, etc.)
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I understood what he meant, my "no" was just to let him know that wasn't the issue though I could see how that would be confusing since it also directly answers his question. It's not a problem, I know how to remove the app and using a file manager isn't even necessary since as I said titanium removes it as does simply uninstalling from the Play store. As I said, I've installed and uninstalled it multiple times just to see if it was a glitch. How to uninstall it isn't the issue, why it becomes uninstallable is.
Also, I said malware-like behavior. I didn't say it was malware and I even stated above that none of it's permissions seem suspect to me. That was never the question. This is honest curiosity about why the rom and this app in particular seem to be reacting in this way. It's not a slight to the app or it's developer. When something doesn't work as expected sometimes there's a a genuine interest in finding out how and why. I don't even use the app, I bought it to try because I've heard so many good things but it wasn't my cup of tea. I was just curious why no one else has reported this possible bug. Maybe the "why?" has already been answered but I just can't find the reason, hence my post. I suppose I asked this in the wrong section since I'm not seeking technical help.
Hi All,
So it appears that after installing 4.4.2 I cannot seem to get Google Play Music or Pandora to run without leaving the app open and in the foreground. I'm not sure if there is a function that has to be enabled to do this in KK, or if it is some mod I did long ago to force kill apps that are in background.
I understand this is a bit of a goose chase, but I was hoping people would be able to suggest things to check to see whether we can fix this problem of mine together or not.
- Could it be something in an Xposed Module? XBlast, GravityBox, etc. have a setting for killing background processes?
- Could it be something in the KitKat system itself that has to be enabled / disabled?
- Could it be the new settings within the apps themselves?
- Could it be a third party app (that I may have installed and am unaware of) killing background processes?
- Other ideas?
Apps run when phone screen is off, and when phone is locked, but if I go into a different app the music stops cold.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts!
Ah yes, this is the curse of Android 4.3+. I read in the Greenify settings that in 4.3 or greater, Android killed off an exploit that allowed apps to increase their priority to stay in memory. In turn, running apps can be killed off when memory is low. Horrible. I've had it across all ROMs and stock as well. I've done as much research as humanly possible to subvert this.
I'm by no means an expert on Android. I have really limited knowledge of how it runs. But I think that information in accurate, because my own personal solutions seem to support it.
Generally what I have done is keep as few running processes as possible. This means no live wallpaper, Greenifying as much as I can, and clearing out any recents frequently. If this fails, I have to restart and things get back on track again.
Go into your developer settings and look at the process stats. If it says memory is critical, you'll need to start trimming down your background processes. I don't quite exactly know how to interpret all the data that is present there, but "critical" seems clear cut at least.
If anyone has more information on this, please add to the convo!
Thanks bud. On the plus side at least I know it's nothing I've done to a setting here or there (other than going ahead and installing KK on the phone, lol).
Why Google/Motorola would make simple things like this worse as updates come out is beyond me... le sigh.
A "simple phone upgrade" to something unlockable with 2+ GB RAM is my best option I guess, lol.
Agreed. Luckily 2 GB is the baseline nowadays, but I feel like I don't want to take the chance and just go for 3 next time.
While we're still on the subject though, which xposed modules do you use? I wonder if they do contribute to RAM usage.
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Agreed. Luckily 2 GB is the baseline nowadays, but I feel like I don't want to take the chance and just go for 3 next time.
While we're still on the subject though, which xposed modules do you use? I wonder if they do contribute to RAM usage.
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Xposed list is pretty lengthy, I'm sure something here is using RAM. And I totally agree with you - baseline 3GB (or more) in my next phone, with a quad or even octo-core processor.
Ah, the days of 1GB and dual-core being top of the line, lol.
Here's the Xposed list:
- AcDisplay
- All Notifications Expanded
- App Settings
- Chrome New Tab
- Disable Location Consent
- GPS Notification
- Google Play Music Listen Later (Just installed recently, haven't set up yet to test it out)
- Google Search API
- Gravity Box
- Handle External Storage
- Hide Apps Xposed (did not work on 4.1.2 since I wasn't running GEL, haven't tested after KK install)
- MinMinGuard
- MinMinLock (Just installed, haven't set up yet, might delete)
- Multi Users
- Notification Mod
- OK Google For 3rd Party Launchers (Just installed, haven't really played with yet)
- Pandora Patcher
- Stop Switch Delay
- Swiftkey Goodness On More Fields
- Swipeback
- Ultimate Dynamic Navbar
- UnToaster Xposed (version 1.1.7 - I couldn't get TiBu to work correctly with the newer versions through 1.2.5)
- Unbeloved Hosts
- XBlast Tools
- Xposed Preference Injector
- Xposed Torch (couldn't get to function correctly after KK installation)
- YouTube Ad Away
- YouTube Allow Fullscreen HDMI
I've noticed that Gravity Box and XBlast do a lot of the same things, I'm thinking I can whittle one down as long as I can find all of my settings within the other.
Using NotiSysInfo to monitor I noticed my RAM usage typically bounces between 85-125 MB free, depending on what is going on in the phone. This is double from what it used to be on 4.1.2 (typically I'd be running with about 40-50 MB RAM free). Knowing this, I'm not so sure the phone is killing the music apps based on RAM usage alone, unless the threshold for free RAM needed has been raised...
...if that is the case, any idea of a good app to lower the threshold for free RAM before the phone starts killing things? I was looking at Auto Memory Manager, but it didn't seem to do the trick keeping music alive in the background.
Sounds like a good idea for another Xposed Module, lol. Do you happen to know the thread for posting up ideas or requests?
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Sounds like a good idea for another Xposed Module, lol. Do you happen to know the thread for posting up ideas or requests?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/index-collection-xposed-modules-post-t2327541
I think AMM worked for me for a while, but wasn't perfect. Nothing really ever did the trick like a restart... which makes me think that there is a memory leak somewhere, but I could never track it with any app I used. Maybe it is something to do with xposed? I never tested my phone long enough without it.
I haven't had it in a while, and I've done two things since it kept happening consistently the last time: 1) switch from SwiftKey to Google Keyboard. 2) Deactivate Muzei, best wallpaper app ever (RIP). Both apps seemed to consume variably large amounts of RAM.
Another thing I should note is that when frantically googling memory leaks, someone wrote on XDA that Android can only handle so many services running at once, so that when the number is exceeded, it automatically kills one. Possibly, this is the issue with the music.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/index-collection-xposed-modules-post-t2327541
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Thanks a lot, found the thread right after I posted, lol.
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I think AMM worked for me for a while, but wasn't perfect. Nothing really ever did the trick like a restart... which makes me think that there is a memory leak somewhere, but I could never track it with any app I used. Maybe it is something to do with xposed? I never tested my phone long enough without it.
I haven't had it in a while, and I've done two things since it kept happening consistently the last time: 1) switch from SwiftKey to Google Keyboard. 2) Deactivate Muzei, best wallpaper app ever (RIP). Both apps seemed to consume variably large amounts of RAM.
Another thing I should note is that when frantically googling memory leaks, someone wrote on XDA that Android can only handle so many services running at once, so that when the number is exceeded, it automatically kills one. Possibly, this is the issue with the music.
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I found a solution in the "ask Xposed questions" thread listed above. Use the module App Settings and for the apps to stay running in background checkmark "resident". Works perfectly for me now.
I agree AMM is junk. KeepRunning doesn't work that well either. Xposed all the way!
I wonder if this is the same issue I'm having with Hangouts and SMS notifications. It seems that if I have enough going on in the background, Hangouts will stop giving me notifications for SMS. When I go into the app, the new message(s) is there and waiting for me to read it. This to me is a huge problem. I didn't have this issue on CM11. For me, it seems it most always happens if I'm using the Facebook app and viewing a link from Facebook on Chrome. I've now made a habit of checking Hangouts periodically to see if I have any new messages.
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I wonder if this is the same issue I'm having with Hangouts and SMS notifications. It seems that if I have enough going on in the background, Hangouts will stop giving me notifications for SMS. When I go into the app, the new message(s) is there and waiting for me to read it. This to me is a huge problem. I didn't have this issue on CM11. For me, it seems it most always happens if I'm using the Facebook app and viewing a link from Facebook on Chrome. I've now made a habit of checking Hangouts periodically to see if I have any new messages.
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I would try clearing your data for Hangouts. Sometimes notifications won't come in if they are associated with an older android device ID.
I have had nothing but problems with hangouts and the messaging app. I deleted both and am using a third party messing app now. No problems.
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Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
No ETA pls
Let's wait
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How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
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There is no "usual" number. Some phones got root before they were even out officially. Some took a few days. Some took over a month. And some end up retired without a safe root option.
First rule of xda: don't ask for eta
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
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I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
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I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
I like to be about to restore all my data and apps with Titanium Backup. So much easier.
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I have nothing but force closes when restoring with titanium unless the ROM is very similar anyway. Like I was using AOSP on my Z before so I just came in fresh. Less issues down the road
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I've never had an issue switching ROM's being careful to avoid system apps and only restoring the call logs and SMS database, as well as non-system apps.
Everyone is different ☺ I also do nightly backups and sync with Dropbox.
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I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
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Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
Would love to see root but for now I can manage quite fine without it... There is less bloatware then with certain other brands and you can uninstall or disable quite a bit.
The few things I WOULD like:
* Completely remove unused system apps
* Change LCD Density (it's all soooo big now)
* Full SDCard read/write access for all apps. (I love quickpic as a gallery, but because I save my pics/vids to sdcard it can not remove anything now)
* Titanium backup. Have never ever had issues with this (only user apps+data for me most of the time) and that's with switching between different roms, brands, aosp/stock, etc... Never failed me
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Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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Not to mention Xposed and everything it offers.
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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ABP (please call it "Adblock Plus" so every readers knows what's meant) does not require root, but it's not too capable running under Android. It does a brilliant job with FireFox and Windows, but the Android implementation only captures a fracture of annoying ads. And: No plugin for defining your own black lists under Android.
AdAway additionally removes annoying ads from a wealth of apps. Just doesn't work without root.
Ok, I can hear you: "If everybody uses that means, app developers won't get paid."
Yes, that's correct.
But:
a) If I really like an app, I'll buy it. Example: Poweramp. NO ads, no annoyance. It just stops working after some time. I regard that as ok. I do NOT like apps getting on my nerves all the time.
My formula is simple: Annoying ads = deinstall, no purchase.
b) A majority of free app developers uses that "evil" ads, appearing at places previously occupied by regular buttons - so you tap on them although you just don't want to.
If that bad behavior gets to a stop, I'll think about disabling AdAway again. Fair play - but on BOTH sides.