Goodbye Vibrant hello Captivate - Captivate General

Got my Captivate last night....love it.

what didn't you like about the vibrant?

I have both...the only real difference is the feel of the device. Of course there's also the difference in carrier added software but other then that their the same device.
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Personally the captivate feels better than the rest of the sgs family. He rest feel way too clunky for me.
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I've only held a vibrant once, if I recall correctly..isn't it a bit lighter? It's been a while but I specifically remember telling myself 'Gee, that's pretty light.'

The vibrant also had one advantage, the group over at cyanogen actually plans on developing for it...
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life2monkeys said:
The vibrant also had one advantage, the group over at cyanogen actually plans on developing for it...
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Yeah because cyanogen are famous for only releasing for a tiny share of devices and have no interest in porting even to near totally identical devices. /sarcasm.
You think they'll crack running CM on the totally different processor of the vibrant and then be put off by the odd front facingg camera. Please.
Wherever you get your info you are totally wrong. Cyanogen will be releasing for the whole galaxy line, facilitated by the fact that the different names make almost no difference to the hardware.
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It just takes time.

I never used or even held the Vibrant but the Captivate looks way better than the Vibrant and the other Galaxy S phones.

How about those stories about the camera being better on the Vibrant? I always thought that was taken from one review and made into a gospel...

Not true, a friend of mine has the vibrant our photos look exacly the same, besides both phones have the exact same camera hardware.

^^^ This.
Guy that I work with every day has a Vibrant, and our photos/videos look the same. I'm not fond of how his phone looks, though, too iPhone-like with the gaudy bezel. The Captivate just looks like pure business to me.

Personal opinion, the captivate looks the best of the four sgs phones. Epic... boo;-(
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Captivate certainly looks the best, but the Epic is nothing to frown at.

Epic is to big, I wish I had money for i9000. But the captivate is so much sexier.
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dzelaya18 said:
^^^ This.
Guy that I work with every day has a Vibrant, and our photos/videos look the same. I'm not fond of how his phone looks, though, too iPhone-like with the gaudy bezel. The Captivate just looks like pure business to me.
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Just as I thought then...that one review I read stated that and then it became a "fact" for many people...usual internet stuff

I have the captivate that I picked up to try out AT&T's service. Like others I agree its the best looking, the Vibrant looks too much like an iPhone. I currently have T-Mobile with a BB 8900, and I do like the Captivate. The only "problem" I see is that if I dont like AT&T's service (which its looking that way), I dont want to be stuck with returning the phone and going to the Vibrant on T-Mobile, haha. Luckily I unlocked my Captivate and can use it with my T-Mobile account, but unfortunately the Captivate doesnt operate on T-Mobile's 3G network, but the Vibrant can work on AT&Ts 3G - or so Ive read. All I know is when I run my Captivate on T-Mobile, I only can get Edge service on it. Its just going to suck to have to either keep the Captivate and not have 3G, or return it and go with the ugly Vibrant...
~T.J.

02CWRX said:
I have the captivate that I picked up to try out AT&T's service. Like others I agree its the best looking, the Vibrant looks too much like an iPhone. I currently have T-Mobile with a BB 8900, and I do like the Captivate. The only "problem" I see is that if I dont like AT&T's service (which its looking that way), I dont want to be stuck with returning the phone and going to the Vibrant on T-Mobile, haha. Luckily I unlocked my Captivate and can use it with my T-Mobile account, but unfortunately the Captivate doesnt operate on T-Mobile's 3G network, but the Vibrant can work on AT&Ts 3G - or so Ive read. All I know is when I run my Captivate on T-Mobile, I only can get Edge service on it. Its just going to suck to have to either keep the Captivate and not have 3G, or return it and go with the ugly Vibrant...
~T.J.
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Maybe go for the fascinate?
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Berserk87 said:
what didn't you like about the vibrant?
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I didnt like the shape of the vibrant and that it doesnt work well on all the carrier in New Zealand , the Captivate is great feeling to hold and works on all the networks here.

_Opiate_ said:
I have both...the only real difference is the feel of the device. Of course there's also the difference in carrier added software but other then that their the same device.
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And the fact the Captivate has more Bands

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Vibrant

This is just an observation but I really wish I had waited till now and just got a vibrant, unlocked it and could use it on AT&T's network and still get 3G.
There is so much more development work going on over in the Vibrant forum.
But I do think the Captivate is a slightly better looking phone than the Vibrant.
you mad son
just wait for that aosp from hansmrtn
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Citznfish said:
you mad son
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+1
Somebody has no patients
Part of the spoonfedtribe
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You know, I browse the Dev section on the Vibrant forums sometimes, and I just really don't see all the dev action that the Vibrant has and Captivate does not. It seems pretty similar (perhaps slight edge to Vibrant) with many mods and hacks being ported back and forth between the two phones.
Also, the Captivate is MUCH sexier than the Vibrant. It's one sleek piece of hardware.
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You know, I browse the Dev section on the Vibrant forums sometimes, and I just really don't see all the dev action that the Vibrant has and Captivate does not. It seems pretty similar (perhaps slight edge to Vibrant) with many mods and hacks being ported back and forth between the two phones.
Also, the Captivate is MUCH sexier than the Vibrant. It's one sleek piece of hardware.
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We are getting our share of dev. I wonder if people associate the vibrant getting cyanogen as us not getting the love?
Sweet life

Next Phone?

The Captivate community here on XDA is nothing but awesome. So, I'm asking everyone: where are you going next? Will you be switching to Motorola and the Atrix 4G? Sticking it out with Samsung and the Infuse 4G? Maybe an Inspire 4G?
Please vote in the poll. I'm interested in seeing where Captivate owners are planning to head in the next couple of months.
PSA: Atrix 4G Pre-orders are LIVE! Only $399 off-contract with $100 discount!
I don't know because I have over a year on my contract. By that time who knows where we will be. I do think next time I get a phone it will be after its been out for a while. If it were the next couple months I think it would be the atrix.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.
Im seriously considering the atrix but the infuse looks impressive they both have awesome features...im torn.
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niezek said:
Im seriously considering the atrix but the infuse looks impressive they both have awesome features...im torn.
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The infuse is nothing more than an overclocked captivate with a 4.5" screen, its nothing new. The atrix on the other hand has a dual core cpu, 1g of ram, fingerprint reader and that nifty webtop thingamajiggy.
niezek said:
Im seriously considering the atrix but the infuse looks impressive they both have awesome features...im torn.
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The only thing drawing me to the Infuse is that screen. But the qHD screen on the Atrix should be cool, too.
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kennethpenn said:
The Captivate community here on XDA is nothing but awesome. So, I'm asking everyone: where are you going next? Will you be switching to Motorola and the Atrix 4G? Sticking it out with Samsung and the Infuse 4G? Maybe an Inspire 4G?
Please vote in the poll. I'm interested in seeing where Captivate owners are planning to head in the next couple of months.
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The Atrix is going where I've wanted to be for a while. If my phone is as powerful as a laptop, why have two separate devices? I'm a bit upset about the Infuse because it's what the Galaxy S line should have been. That all being said, I'll probably cave for the Infuse because of the "flashability" and brilliant screen.
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The Atrix is going where I've wanted to be for a while. If my phone is as powerful as a laptop, why have two separate devices? I'm a bit upset about the Infuse because it's what the Galaxy S line should have been. That all being said, I'll probably cave for the Infuse because of the "flashability" and brilliant screen.
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Most people would disagree about your statement on the Galaxy S supposed to have been like the Infuse. I like a 4" screen and beyond that the Infuse really does not make much of an impact. The bad thing about the Galaxy S is Samsung not releasing source code.
I have 2yrs left on my contract so by that time phones will be installed into our brains
I despise Motorola phones, so I'm not touching those.
Samsung has been reliable, I'm not sure that I'd want to deal with the Captivate's jank anymore, and I don't trust Samsung to provide updates especially if they're corrupted with TouchWiz.
I love using HTC phones and their spec sheets and feel just seem so refined.
Alas, I'll probably defect from ATT. They've thrown too much crap into my face over the past 6 years. My employer can foot for my business phone, its service is far too unreliable for me. I'm probably going to Verizon.
You should have made the choice "Stuck with the Captivate" instead of "Sticking..."
Miami_Son said:
You should have made the choice "Stuck with the Captivate" instead of "Sticking..."
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At first I thought you were being a grammar Nazi, because my choices weren't parallel. Then I realized it was just a well-worded, witty jab at Samsung.
Well done, sir.
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The infuse is nothing more than an overclocked captivate with a 4.5" screen, its nothing new. The atrix on the other hand has a dual core cpu, 1g of ram, fingerprint reader and that nifty webtop thingamajiggy.
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And a locked bootloader;-)
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Most people would disagree about your statement on the Galaxy S supposed to have been like the Infuse. I like a 4" screen and beyond that the Infuse really does not make much of an impact. The bad thing about the Galaxy S is Samsung not releasing source code.
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I am a fan of the Infuse's front facing camera, 8 mp main camera with flash and moderately improved processor. When the Captivate was released, it was competing with the Evo and Iphone 4, both of which had better specs (on paper). I worry that AT&T will cripple the Infuse as they did the Captivate and take away it's competitive features to conserve network bandwidth. Plus I'll need evidence that the GPS works on the Infuse ;-)
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And a locked bootloader;-)
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Thats what i thought, but look what moto just posted.
I was wondering when this thread would pop up... I'm digging the atrix's raw power... but really we should all reserve judgement until MWC has passed. I'm sure there's more stuff that'll blow us away there
Atrix FTW
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At first I thought you were being a grammar Nazi, because my choices weren't parallel. Then I realized it was just a well-worded, witty jab at Samsung.
Well done, sir.
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You get me.
I think most ppl expectation of the Atrix is too high, unless you plan on running it stock.
And for those dead set on getting it, be prepared for a big change when it comes to Motorola development section, not much happening there compared to Samsung section.
I will wait about a month or so after release before buying 2 of the units in the poll (off-contract). I've learned that having patience on buying any electronic device that is first introduce can save you alot of headaches.
Well, I don't really have a manufacturer preference and I don't buy phones as an update, ie, not locked into 2 more years so I shop around different carrier phones. Actually though I get a great ATT plan through work so I'm not leaving, still using original iPhone unlimited data plan.
That said, I got my wife the HTC HD2 and about 2 weeks ago loaded the NAND version of Cyanogen. I must say if there is a newer version of the HD2 that runs Android, and works with ATT 3g in about a year or so i will be all over it. That is actually quite an awesome phone and if it worked with ATT 3g I might actually trade her.
I'm betting MWC doesn't bring AT&T much. Perhaps the second Galaxy S, but I'm thinking it will launch in several months, like the Captivate did.
MWC - February 2010 - Announcement of Galaxy S GT-I9000
Captivate announced - late June 2010
Captivate released - July 2010
The Atrix is looking at a possible March launch. So, it'll probably be a few months ahead of the Galaxy S2.
After dealing with Samsung's lack of updates, GPS problems, shut down problems, I'm personally inclined to give Motorola a shot with the Atrix. Let's hope there is an unlocked bootloader.

Moving On to HTC Inspire

Hey guys. I'm actually relatively new on the forums, though I've had my Captivate since December last year. I have been using ROMs from these forums since the third day I had my phone, I just never registered.
Anyway, I just feel I should make a post thanking everyone. Mostly MikeyMike01 and ChanceM, because the third ROM I ever flashed was Serendipity. And I've been using Serendipity since then. I have indeed flashed things in between, but the longest I've ever had a non-Serendipity ROM on my phone has been less than an hour. So it's safe to say that Serendipity is a physical part of my phone now... In fact, since I'm getting the HTC Inspire, my brother is getting my Captivate (his first Android phone), and the ROM that I pre-loaded for him is Serendipity 5.12. That's how much I trust/love this ROM.
Anyway, does anyone have any opinions on the HTC Inspire? I remember seeing one other person in these forums who switched to the same phone, saying that it seemed like a more sturdy phone.
I will thoroughly miss these Captivate forums though. Thanks are as follows:
MikeyMike01
ChanceM
existz (I use SuckerPunch-Voodoo)
Samsung (LOL I use the KP1 modem, dunno who to thank for this one)
Anyone else who has some sort of mod on my phone.
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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but...it's made by samsung!
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but...it's made by samsung!
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
ryude said:
We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
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That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
ryude said:
I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I wouldn't push it that far....
After weighing all the pros and cons of the Galaxy S series and the upcoming 2 (talking about the internation/original here), the Galaxy S 2 will most likely be my next device. Decent build, decent software, hardware is top notch, and that screen is something I can't drop now that I've stared at it for so long. Knowing that the international Galaxy S 2 works with AT&T's HSPA+ bands without modifications is also a deciding factor.
please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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jc2470 said:
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
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So I've heard.
MikeyMike01 said:
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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I'd never pay that much for a phone. I'm buying it because my father's iPhone 4 is now eligible for upgrade, but he doesn't want a new phone so we're using his upgrade for mine.
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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Agreed for the most part. AT&T held back the Froyo ROM without a doubt for stupid reasons, but we aren't sure if the i9000 is actually getting Gingerbread. Yeah, it was leaked, but so was Froyo way back when. I understand that Froyo wasn't released for our phone mostly because of AT&T, but you can't be so sure; it's still just a "leak".
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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Not true at all. Serendipity is the closest I've found to perfect, but it's still a ROM. From experience and from hearing other people speak about the Inspire, you don't really even need to put a ROM on the HTC Inspire 4G for it to be perfect. I'm definitely going to flash something (maybe something that'll remove Sense UI, I'm not sure if I'll like it), but most of the features in the ROMs are already found on the phone as stock.
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please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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I would not get the DHD. I have a friend who has it, and it's just overhyped. It's not as good as everyone makes it seem.
The Nexus S is pretty much like this phone in which you'll have the same amount of development. The hardware may be different in technical respects, but the same in user experience.
The SGS 2 isn't released yet, but when it is, it's going to be a great phone. If it was already released, I'd consider buying it, but I'm not going to wait for it to come out.
The Atrix is somewhat overkill, but if you're entering college or have a need for a netbook/small laptop with basic features (e-mail, Facebook, etc.), then the Atrix is for you. It's just expensive, even with a contract.
Also, please post questions in the Q&A forum; that's why it's there.
Try Cognition 4.1 on your captivate. You won't be disappointed.
The Inspire kicks ass.
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Between CM7 and MIUI on the Inspire it blows anything and everything out of the water in the Captivate/i9000 forums. After seeing how Samsung utterly destroys their phones with Touchwiz, I'll never buy a Samsung phone again.
Go with the Inspire and you will not be disappointed.
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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They are basically the same phone. So that suggestion doesn't make much sense...
Inspire is a downgrade in hardware but upgrade in software. Add to that the rooting is quite a pain compared to the captivate...
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So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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Ohhhhh I thought you were talking about a phone that doesn't exist (Droid HD anyone?).
Anyway, yes, the phones are almost completely similar. It's just that the DHD is European, I believe.
eramming said:
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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How so? It has a lower pixel density and a Super LCD, which are both a downgrade, but I don't watch videos on my phone. Otherwise, how is it a downgrade? It has 700 somewhat MB of RAM, gets amazing Quad and Linpack scores compared to the Captivate (I don't base opinions on benchmarks, though), and Sense UI, though I might not use Sense...
the insipire isnt much of an upgrade. did u already get it? i personally would still take my captivate over it
I honestly can't see any of the current phones destroy the captivate in functionality and flexibility except for the nexus S. Pure google + decent specs.
The inspire blows cap away in speed, everyone in inspire forums will tell u that and almost all of them are previous captivate owners and switched to it, even blows the atrix away, call it a downgrade or whatever put whatever spin u like on it and its still the top phone to beat. and it works out of the box the radio even works great, i get no random shut downs my battery consumption is better then cappy, I dont get lag at all, it will load any program faster and run it better then the cappy did, watch a video on youtube about it, http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/featured/face-off-htc-inspire-4g-vs-samsung-captivate/ and yes no doubt there will be more better phones out this year same as 6 months from then there will be even more, with my 6 month early upgrade it cost me 300 to get it which I certainly can live with, in 6 months i will get another of the better phones out of the time.
I gave my Cap to my aunt. I have Serendipity 5.12 on it and MIUI on my Inspire. I have around 75 apps on the Inspire and it booted quicker, unlocked quicker, and the notification bar pulled down with no lag at all.
I was running CM7 on it and it was even faster than that.
The screen difference isn't that big of a deal, either, and I've stared at the SAMOLED screen since last August.

[Q] Going to Verizon..

So looks like I'm suddenly going to version (being I'm not "head of the house hold") it looks like I'm switching to Verizon, so not really by choice..
Anyways, I really like my captivate and am gonna miss it.. I suppose theres no way I could make it work on Verizon? Or should I even be worried about that? Looking at some of their phones, they look pretty impressive.. It looks like the DROID INCREDIBLE 2 looks like that one I like the most.. its brand new and seems to compare with the cappy pretty well.. Of course theres the ThunderBolt but a bit pricey and, according to the 4G map, I'm just outside 4G coverage.. I also did see the Samsung Fascinate but why not go with something newer with a little more power?
Was just looking for little feed back.. hope Verizon coverage is as good as they say.. been with AT&T since i first got a cell years ago..
The Captivate won't work on Verizon's network since they don't use the GSM like AT&T. If I were in your situation I would look at the development section on XDA and see what they have going on for the phones you might chose from. Try to get an idea which have more development put in to them and which might work best for you. Then of course try them out in the store and see how you like the screen and size of each. I know that probably doesn't help much but that is what I would do.
Don't get the Fascinate. A lateral move.
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So looks like I'm suddenly going to version (being I'm not "head of the house hold") it looks like I'm switching to Verizon, so not really by choice..
Anyways, I really like my captivate and am gonna miss it.. I suppose theres no way I could make it work on Verizon? Or should I even be worried about that? Looking at some of their phones, they look pretty impressive.. It looks like the DROID INCREDIBLE 2 looks like that one I like the most.. its brand new and seems to compare with the cappy pretty well.. Of course theres the ThunderBolt but a bit pricey and, according to the 4G map, I'm just outside 4G coverage.. I also did see the Samsung Fascinate but why not go with something newer with a little more power?
Was just looking for little feed back.. hope Verizon coverage is as good as they say.. been with AT&T since i first got a cell years ago..
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DROID INCREDIBLE 2 is awesome. Not sure about the bootloader status though.
Heck, the cappy can be your dev phone.
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Don't get the Fascinate. A lateral move.
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the faqscinate is more of a backwawrds move. no much development because of a lack of 2.2 source code. meanwhile the gsm variants can run on i9000 2.2.1 and 2.3.3 roms. though it does have a flsh on the camera and super thin profile which is nice if you dont cahre about those things.
maybe wait for droid charge. basically a galaxy s with a big screen and real buttons and lte. it also has both cameras @8mp and 1.3 respectively. not quite ground breaking but a nice phone.

i hope its true.. galaxy s2 will you get it?

http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/7577-samsung-galaxy-s2-release-date
Great news! I'm personally going to jump ship to this phone. Why not?? It's getting mad amounts of hype, which is never a bad thing. After hearing someone reviewing it saying it feels like the first 100% android phone they've ever used, I think that says something about it. I'm just scared that this phone is going to be about the same build quality of Yugo, as are all of Samsung's phones
If it has 4G hell yes. I wonder if we can just swap sim cards between 4G phones just fine
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i knew sprint would mutilate this beauty with a keyboard, they always do. glad i left that company. lets hope verizon gets this beast because it's my next phone.
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http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/7577-samsung-galaxy-s2-release-date
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It's been known for months that we are getting a variant the only question is how different will it be. The Fascinate sucked...
I don't like Samsung but a 4g lte version would be hard to resist. I'll also have to pay full retail for it so I dunno.!
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Still no release date or info about lte our not so can't say if I want this. My wife likes samsung phones, but I've always felt they have had too much plastic in them.
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be happy with the phone you have, for tomorrow, there will always be something better.
just reminded me of:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple
No way. After my adventure with the Captivate, I'll never have another Samsung phone.
Nice hardware. Unless it is pure Android with no Samsung software, open, and on anything but AT&T, it might not suck.
However, I'm on the TBolt, now, so no need to change.
There's a lot to like about the Galaxy S and S II phones. I was pretty happy with my Captivate, but hated AT&T's coverage. Sure the stock phones were terribly slow with the pre-installed carrier junk and RFS file system, but the developers took care of that. I believe they've had GB available for a while now since Samsung released it for the Galaxy S phones in Europe. Then you get the absurdly thin and light phones and the beautiful amoled screens.
Any Galaxy S II variants over here will likely be crudded up just as badly as the original Galaxy S phones but that's nothing the developers can't fix. You can always wait for the Galaxy S III as well.
I'm not wiling to pay full retail for any phone much less a Samsung. Seems like a sweet device internally but no thanks. I'm quite happy with the TBolt!
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I'm not wiling to pay full retail for any phone much less a Samsung. Seems like a sweet device internally but no thanks. I'm quite happy with the TBolt!
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I know a lot of people feel that way. I don't know I actually like what Samsung is doing lately. I'm also one of the few that really like that plastic feel on the phone, makes for a much lighter phone. To tell you the truth I wish I would have kept the droid charge instead of going back to the thunderbolt.
I guess everyone has their own taste.
Leo Laporte mentioned the G2S on This Week in Google podcast. He said it's a pretty sweet phone.
I am now one of the lucky Tbolt owners that now has a perfect phone. Not one issue. Even the battery life is at 16 hours with heavy use and screen at 75% all the time. Nothing will separate me from my Tbolt....unless they make a tbolt with a 4.5-5 inch screen as thin as the G2S. Thickness and weight are the only things I would change.
Crazy to think I'm to a point that a screen smaller than 4.3 is to small.

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