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[Q] Should I buy a TB out of contract?

I am really really sick of this Droid 2 that VZW replaced my Droid with. I'm sick of Moto services invading my phone and slowing it down. There's no true ASOP build. This phone sucks balls.
I was set on buying an Incredible 2 OoC b/c it was cheap at $440 and saving my upgrade till later, but where I'm moving to next week already has LTE towers.
Do I really want to wait 2 months using this laggy trash? And possibly end up getting a TB anyway because the other phones coming out suck.
Or do I want to get a TB and save my upgrade till later in the Q4 2011/Q1 2012 when NFC Ice Cream Sandwich phones come out.

Don't want a Charge, poor build material choices.
Don't want a Revolution. Bing...

Does it really matter? Not really... You just root and you can put whatever you want and however you want.
Motorola tends to lock their bootloaders and make it hard to do what you want.
Samsung stated that they'll never lock it that way(Not in those words, but given the sense that they will leave it open)
HTC has been locking down their devices, but not as tough as Motorola does.
So basically pick a device with the hardware you want, and make sure it's root and you can install custom roms/kernels.

The T-Bolt is a great phone, and it has excellent community support. I have absolutely no complaints about my phone (aside from the battery life).
That being said, the Galaxy S II that's coming out looks sexy as hell. It might be worth the wait to hold out for that. Honestly, it's totally up to you.
There was talk about tiered 4G plans, which is what made me opt for the early upgrade to the T-Bolt (hoping to be grandfathered in to unlimited 4G). I haven't heard much on that front, but it's still a possibility.

wait a few months
from everything i've ever read about samsung phones, their software support is absolutely horrible. slow updates, faulty gps etc. i've heard a ton of people complain about the issue, and it seems to be the case with all their phones... never had one, but that's the impression i get.
the thunderbolt is a decent phone, but all it really has over the droid x is 4g. the t-bolt screen might be a little better, but not much. in day to day use it's not faster, the battery isn't even close and the build quality of the DX is equal or better. if i were you i would pick up a DX on craigslist for $175 and save your upgrade for a few months. The dx has even more dev support than the T-bolt and it's the best phone I ever had.
bottom line is, if you really want 4g speeds right now, really really bad, then get the thunderbolt. if you can do without that for awhile i think you will be really happy with a DX, especially after using the Droid 2, and you'll spend less than half the money.
the above is just my .02.

Show me a HTC or Motorola phone with latest software on it
Not you fat Jesus

I bought mine off contract and am very happy I did it. Yes there are a few issues, but nothing a little root cant fix.
Though waiting a few months for a better phone won't hurt, the TB is a great choice.

00negative said:
Not you fat Jesus
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I just have to say that this cracks me up every time I see you post it.

Once you get a taste of 4G, you will never want a phone that is 3G only. So if you are moving to 4G area and don't want to pay full retail, I suggest you get a used Tbolt from craigslist and use it until something comes along that you like better, then sell the Tbolt

i love my TB, i have it rooted with das bamf NTE 1.6.3 and its about the coolest thing since MP3s.. as with others, the battery life on this thing is fkin AWFUL!! i have the extended battery and i still dont feel like its enough, however i use my phone probably more than i should or more than others. either way the LTE network is retarded fast and i'd never want 3g.

First off I just want to say I owned a droid 2 and it wasn't that bad. I jumped to the thunderbolt just to lock in the 4g rate. The bigger screen is a nice plus but other than that is the same thing. I wasn't overly impressed as other owners of the droid x and 2 have stated is not that big of a jump.
Before I end let me just say other than software wise android phones are exactly where I want them. I don't need a dual core chip in my phone and 4g is. good enough for anything I would ever want to do with my phone. I'm sure most of you will disagree but that's just how I feel. Flame away!
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I picked up a TB on craigslist for $350. The custom roms still seem a bit premature, however they should evolve over time. Nonetheless it's an amazing phone. If you have a desk job or spend a lot of time in your car, the battery life is not much of an issue. Just stay plugged in.

Got my TB off Craigslist for a fascinate trade plus 150$. I love it so far.. 4g is amazing..once you.have it you won't want to go back.
Roms are not bad. I'm waiting for a complete cm7 or sense 3.0 rom but other than that das bamf runs fantastic.
If you have the cash and want a great phone with a growing dev community, go for it.
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Thank you for all the input.
It's funny the other 2 forums told me I'm a moron and this one says Buy a TB!!!
I use over 2GB of data a month so the 4G unlimited (Hopefully grandfathered for life) makes it very tempting since my upgrade isn't till mid July which is around the time the rumors of tiered data plans landing. I'm also not to optimistic about an actual new phone coming out then. Maybe the SGSII but I really hate the fact that it doesnt have a search button. It's a damn Google phone and I use the search button all the time, for GOOGLE, not Bing!
I didn't even think about craigslist. That might be a good option.
As for a cheap DX. No way. It basically is a D2 minus the keyboard. I like the keyboard, I can sacrifice it for a 4G newish phone but not for an X. and I hate the Blur invasion, and locked bootloader. My D2 has been running custom roms. They're just too laggy and buggy still. Fab, Kejar, and Rummy are awesome, but they all had DXs and the D2 ports were just not good. Most of it I blame on Blur still having to be in there. I've been running GB stock blur and custom and for the first time since my D1 ADW launcher gets kicked out of memory and has to reload when I hit home.... I hate it.

EBay is your friend. Lots of Tbolts available every day, including NIB models. Prices similar to Craigslist, depending where you are.
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doomedromance said:
It's funny the other 2 forums told me I'm a moron and this one says Buy a TB!!!
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well... if you go to an iphone forum I'm sure they'd say get an iphone! we are only somewhat biased here

Balthazar B said:
EBay is your friend. Lots of Tbolts available every day, including NIB models. Prices similar to Craigslist, depending where you are.
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Honestly I never buy anything without having it in my hands first. Learned my lesson when eBay burned me not once but twice.
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Nexus to name just 1
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jackmei2 said:
well... if you go to an iphone forum I'm sure they'd say get an iphone! we are only somewhat biased here
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Haha it wasn't an iphone forum. they were android and droid forums.

Get the tbolt. You will not regret it.
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[Q] Should I get the Infuse, or wait?

Hey, I know that there at already lots of threads that have been created with various people asking whether the infuse is worth getting. But in my situation my decision is a one-time deal then I'm locked in for 18 months again (until im eligible for another upgrade).
So I want to ask whether I should get the Infuse when my upgrade comes in June or should I wait for when the GS2 hopefully hits AT&T in Q3? The GS2 is obviously better than any phone out there currently however I am currently stuck with a Nokia F160 (FML) so I'm anxious to get my hands on a new phone.
What do you guys think I should do?

The question is can u wait? Honestly this phone can be better once the roms drop... the captivate was a great phone that became a much better phone once it had custom roms. If u can get infuse now and some how save say 700 in 3 mths it would be a wise choice. Remember once roms drop the phone will be much better and if u was able to deal with that Nokia for as long as u did I think u can deal with the Infuse for longer.
Just my 2¢
sent from Infuse but miss my captivate on cont. 5.5.... One day this can be as good...

You will be thrilled with the quality of the screen. It's really mind blowing how great this thing looks. I am having some weird restart issues, but only when I have my SD card installed, so I'm guessing there is some weirdness that they should be able to fix fairly easily. It runs very, very fast and the battery is great. If nothing else, sell your Infuse in 3-4 months for ~400 here, and pay the extra 150-200 to buy the branded SGS2 from att.

daveop said:
You will be thrilled with the quality of the screen. It's really mind blowing how great this thing looks. I am having some weird restart issues, but only when I have my SD card installed, so I'm guessing there is some weirdness that they should be able to fix fairly easily. It runs very, very fast and the battery is great. If nothing else, sell your Infuse in 3-4 months for ~400 here, and pay the extra 150-200 to buy the branded SGS2 from att.
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I agree. The Infuse has all that I want in a phone, minus some restarting/freezing hiccups that I am certain will be cured with the many roms that are forthcoming.
I may buy the SGS2 in a few months, but actually, at that point in time, I might get an unlocked Hercules - that phone has the bigger screen of the Infuse with the hardware of the SGS2 if not slightly better. Other phones will be coming out in that time too, like the HTC Holiday which seems pretty bad ass. So my two cents is to get the Infuse now, and re-evaluate/sell in a few months when similar dual core versions are made available.
Hope that helps.

siehead said:
I agree. The Infuse has all that I want in a phone, minus some restarting/freezing hiccups that I am certain will be cured with the many roms that are forthcoming.
I may buy the SGS2 in a few months, but actually, at that point in time, I might get an unlocked Hercules - that phone has the bigger screen of the Infuse with the hardware of the SGS2 if not slightly better. Other phones will be coming out in that time too, like the HTC Holiday which seems pretty bad ass. So my two cents is to get the Infuse now, and re-evaluate/sell in a few months when similar dual core versions are made available.
Hope that helps.
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SGS2 dualcore battery drain way faster, I read forums sgs2 is a joke on mobile phone. Having a dual core phone make it IMMOBILE phone, they even say yes it is darn fast especially when browsing that's the only plus they see now compare to the infuse, but I was rofl when they mention fast but useless having to look for an outlet every time is a pain in a behind on a mobile phone, that's why I decided to bought the infuse, one even mention buying a sgs2 is similar to buying a lambo that can run 200mph but can only do 65-90mph on the freeway, and sucks more gas and way more expensive than a civic whicj can also do 90mph with less gas, I saw their point, do you?
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I too was waiting on the GSII, but after playing with the phone for a week I might just stay with the infuse. If we could get gingerbread on this thing it's a keeper.
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Dxtra said:
I too was waiting on the GSII, but after playing with the phone for a week I might just stay with the infuse. If we could get gingerbread on this thing it's a keeper.
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This. Fantastic phone but could use some gingerbread love to help with battery and performance. With 2.3 it might be on par if not better than the gs2 simply due to the 4.5 incher.
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Dxtra said:
I too was waiting on the GSII, but after playing with the phone for a week I might just stay with the infuse. If we could get gingerbread on this thing it's a keeper.
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Truer words have never been spoken. This thing with GB equals lights out.
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[Q] How long will the Infuse 4G hold up?

How long do you guys think the Infuse 4G will last in the Market of ever improving phones? Will it last the next few years, say until an upgrade is eligible? Or will it simply fall apart compared to upcoming phones in the next few years? Personally, I love my Infuse, and I think it'll last at least a year to three in terms of specs and software. Please, discuss.

Ok, this is one thing you need to learn when it comes to new phones / laptops/ technology in general. In a year, IT WILL BE OUTDATED. I got the Samsung Captivate and could not imagine a better phone ---besides it's constant GPS issues and until the charging port broke on it...but that was partly my fault. I got this phone and it is great as well--even better than the Captivate. At the time, I did not think that was possible.
The thing you want to do is buy a quality product for the time. The Infuse is one of those things. If you take good care of it, it will last you. I fell off of my bike a few weeks back going downhill. I was pretty banged up. My Infuse, even though it was in a case, got pretty banged up--- cosmetically around those silver edges. It is fully functioning otherwise. It is a solid product. It will last you a long time if you don't abuse it.
For example -- -I still have the Samsung Blackjack 2 as my backup phone and I use it when my "newer and better" phones give me problems. I've had it for forever. It is still a good phone despite being years old. You have a decent phone now--- we all do, as far as the Infuse is concerned. I haven't heard too many complaints, but only time can tell if that will change. Treat it well and it will remain good to you.

The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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I'm just asking if you guys think it'll last the above-average Android user the next few years. I know it's already outdated. It was probably outdated before it even came out.
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depends on the user. there isnt much the phone can't do but it depends on samsung releasing updates and on the community to put out quality mods. to be honest with a good rom a droid could still be a viable phone. my friend has a nexus1 and loves it. i actually kinda envy it, i love the screen and media capabilities on samsung phones but as a phone the nexus is perfect and there is no reason it should need to be anything more.
i have a phone lust though. i will likely get the sgsiii or whatever comes after the sgsii long before my contract is up.

The Infuse right now is still the absolute best phone on AT&T.
And will stay that way till the SGS 2 comes out....
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requiem3 said:
The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.

I was looking at the specs of Galaxy II and the one thing I won't switch my infuse for is battery. It has 1600mA while Infuse has 1750mA. So when it comes to dual CPU, it should drain battery down pretty bad. I mean why will you ever even use that power on the phone unless you compute rocket science data using it. 4G also has a big mouth for drinking the juice out of your phone.
I'm not trying to say it is horible, it just would be a major concern if I'm a heavy data user.
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phones are always out of date typically within 6 months of being released there will be a higher end phone, with few exceptions. (i use to sell phones personally)
anyways, i had a samsung captivate which was the best phone when it came out, currently out of date, but it broke i payed money throuh insurance and luckily they were out so i got an infuse. very happy so far, and i can save my upgrade, im going to wait till i get a high spec (probably htc) lte phone

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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.
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Sgs2 has a smaller screen...therfore it will seem to have better resolution next to the infuse...
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6 weeks, at best.
Coming from the Captivate it's already boring.
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The phone is already outdated when you bought it, but that is the rule with all tech lol. Will it last 5 years. If you take care of it sure but will it still be getting upgrades. Most likely not sense we are seeing higher and higher system requirements to run the newer updates.

It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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corythug said:
It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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I am not saying it couldnt handle it, just saying that after the first OS update I would not look for any others. IF it gets 1 more after that then it will be lucky. As for the Nexus S, I had great hopes for it but then I found the Nexus S was by samsung and thought ok ill wait for the next and not the new prime may be a samsung as well so looks like ill wait till the next nexus is an HTC. But if it is a samsung or HTC as long as the phone is bought through ATT dont expect to get the same number of updates as the Euro versions of the same phone. They always will get more updates then its US counter parts. As always been the case and always will be.

This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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corythug said:
This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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Yup thats why my next device will be a Nexus, as long as it is not made by samsung

Just a tribute to the Captivate...

I can't believe I'm not in a hurry to jump ship to the Galaxy S2. The Cappy has been such a good experience as a phone and it's still able to do whatever I need it to do. When the Fuze came out I couldn't help but be there the first day to pick one up. I was compelled to have the latest and greatest, and the abilities a new smartphone would allow. The same happened the release day of the Captivate.
Sure, it's had its issues (GPS and capped data speeds come to mind) but between the performance of hardware and the constant ROM updates from the dev community, I just don't feel that compulsion to move on from the Captivate. For me it's been a great phone and it's made me a big fan of Samsung's products. Oh I'll get a Galaxy S2 here in a month or two when the price comes down a bit. But I'm still happy with my Captivate and I'll keep it around as a backup.

ditto
i will likely wait until december unless the deal is too good to pass up.
Want to see what develops with the nexus prime.
Some info claims it will be a Verizon Exclusive but i am skeptical. I think that it is more likely we will see it launch exclusively on verizon with a 30-60 window before other carriers get it....so i am not giving up on the prime....the solid metal body construction alone will be worth the wait...just hope ATT gets it.

ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .

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ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .
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That is what has my attention as well...Galaxy Note.

I don't feel the need to upgrade from my Captivate either. Its a weird feeling, I use to be such a phone whore, now I look at new phones and feel they can't do a whole lot for me (personally, I know the phones are actually huge upgrades) that my Captivate can't do.
I HATE how ALL of the new phones being announced are so huge! 4.3" isn't TOO bad, but I do prefer my 4" screen. They're just getting bigger too, I want the Nexus Prime so badly, but there's no way I'm getting it with a 4.65" screen. My upgrade isn't until May 2012 and I'm questioning if there will even be a phone out there I like by then.
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first look at the nexus prime has a 4.6" 720p display

The captivate is a great phone. And always will be. But I jumped ship over to the inspire.
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Note is only thing captivating me right now
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ill replace my cappy with Glalaxy Note .
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I'm with you guys. Once the GS II finally came out, I am not as excited. The last ROM I put on is great and until that note comes out, paying 200 for the GS2 isn't so alluring.
Especially with LTE on horizon and the Note, which will be awesome.
It's like an old friend, even knowing something is better out there, I'm not ready to trade in my old worn in shoes

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first look at the nexus prime has a 4.3" 720p display
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The article says 4.6". It may not be so bad since that probably includes the buttons at the bottom, I'll just have to see it in person, but I still think it will be a very large device.

I'm a captivate owner and I really love it. I will not change it in a while..

The only two things that I don't really like in Captivate are very bad sensitive buttons (well, I replaced screen after it was broken, and than buttons were like that) and very bad battery life, especially with MIUI
But speed and functionality are just grear. And still love the screen with maximum brightness. I think I will buy Galaxy Note or Nexus Prime, will see...

I'm with you guys, but not by choice. I have a contract to fulfil.
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I'll also be waiting for the Note.

I just looked up the Galaxy Note. Wow...! That thing looks amazing. It might be just a bit too big but I'm really considering jumping on that.

I'm with you guys. There is no real reason to upgrade just yet. With a good custom ROM (Cog5), it does everything I ask of it, and does it quickly. The screen is just amazing, and only the SAMOLED Plus beats it, if you ask me. Since I'm not on contract, I can switch when I want, but I see nothing out there I just gotta have. The Prime may change that, but if it is CDMA, then I'm out. Big Red is too expensive for my blood.
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Can someone please link me some info on the Note? I'd never heard of it until now.

Oz. said:
Can someone please link me some info on the Note? I'd never heard of it until now.
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http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/
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Great idea for a thread. My Captivate was my first Android phone. When I got it, I immediately started hacking it. Right now it's semi retired. My Galaxy S 2 is now my main phone.

NightHawk877 said:
Great idea for a thread. My Captivate was my first Android phone. When I got it, I immediately started hacking it.
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I was in the same scenario.

sold my captivate and got a free iphone 4 from my company. I dont miss the phone bills but i can honestly say the Cappy ****s on the Iphone. ****ing hate this thing

[Q] Att users

I am coming over from Verizon. I an interested in the Infuse, Galaxy, or Skyrocket, what's good, what's easy to customize?
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I would recommend NOT the Infuse. Just my 2 cents.

markapowell said:
I am coming over from Verizon. I an interested in the Infuse, Galaxy, or Skyrocket, what's good, what's easy to customize?
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If i were you, go note. If you want a skyrocket, wait theyll have the hd version very soon. Or get the ion, i may because sony releases cyanogenmod builds themselves!

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I'd really recommend getting the Galaxy SII (not Skyrocket).
Just. Plain. Old. Sexy. Classy. SII.
The Skyrocket has a larger screen (4.5"), but from what I hear, it seems to have a few more issues than the SII original. Regardless, I still hear it's a great phone, but I think as far as getting future updates and Samsung support, original Galaxy SII is the safest bet.
If you really want a huge phone, look at the Galaxy Note.
And... Stay away from the Infuse. It's considered really old and outdated now. Yes, it's still a perfectly usable phone and it performs everyday tasks wonderfully. But when you can get the SII now for $100 or less, I just don't see why you'd want to lock into 2 years with a phone that is already a year old.
Plus, if you're a gamer, you definitely want to go with SII and not the Infuse. The RAM difference makes some games not be "compatible" with the Infuse.

To be honest, stay away from Samsung phones. I have two, a captivate and a infuse. I'm over Samsung because of the way they shelve their phones after a couple of months and all the problems in their software. I bought an Atrix 2 and its the best phone i have ever had. At first i wasnt sure about it because its a moto phone. Now that i have had it awhile i recommend this phone to anyone. Best battery life, 4 gb of space for apps and i got an over the air update on the second day of me having the phone. Its on the list for a ics update too. I have not had one single problem with this phone. Just my opinion but i would not get a samsung.
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I also wouldn't recommend the Infuse. I love mine, but it seems to be considered "dead" in AT&T's eyes.

MyLittleBrony said:
I also wouldn't recommend the Infuse. I love mine, but it seems to be considered "dead" in AT&T's eyes.
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^^^ 100% agreed, but as well I do love mine too. I'm just glad we still at least have a team of Dev's that are active on ROM Updates.

tmease1 said:
To be honest, stay away from Samsung phones. I have two, a captivate and a infuse. I'm over Samsung because of the way they shelve their phones after a couple of months and all the problems in their software. I bought an Atrix 2 and its the best phone i have ever had. At first i wasnt sure about it because its a moto phone. Now that i have had it awhile i recommend this phone to anyone. Best battery life, 4 gb of space for apps and i got an over the air update on the second day of me having the phone. Its on the list for a ics update too. I have not had one single problem with this phone. Just my opinion but i would not get a samsung.
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Then why does Sammy sell more phones?
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GeezyF.Ladies said:
Then why does Sammy sell more phones?
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Don't know, don't care.
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I guess I'm a Samsung fan boy. I have always had a Samsung, even before smart phones. I had a Captivate which I gave to my wife when I went with an Infuse. Really love the big screen and I would get a Note if I had the money.....Really doesn't matter if AT&t never pushes out any updates, because I am running CM7.

I recommend the Galaxy S II (i777). I like the Infuse and Skyrocket, but the i777 is perfect. I'd also recommend the Skyrocket over the Infuse, purely because of the RAM difference. The Infuse can't be my daily device, because I need more RAM. So, in my opinion . . .
Galaxy S II (i777) > Skyrocket > Infuse

Samsung may have its issues with software, but theres no denying that their products are well made. Almost everything in my house is made by Samsung. They never die.
That aside, what is your budget and requirements? If you have the money and like the size, get a Note. I've heard nothing but good things about it and developers here are already playing with it. There doesn't seem to be any love for the Skyrocket though. If you're strapped for cash, I'd definately look into the Infuse. The price fluctuates from $50 to free sometimes, so you might get a great deal on one. It's one of the best phones I've ever had. All of the software issues have already been resolved by the devs here. While it may be a little dated by 2012 standards, it handles almost everything I throw at it and you just can't brick it. That's something those ****ty HTCs and Motorolas can't claim.

MikeyFTL said:
Samsung may have its issues with software, but theres no denying that their products are well made. Almost everything in my house is made by Samsung. They never die.
That aside, what is your budget and requirements? If you have the money and like the size, get a Note. I've heard nothing but good things about it and developers here are already playing with it. There doesn't seem to be any love for the Skyrocket though. If you're strapped for cash, I'd definately look into the Infuse. The price fluctuates from $50 to free sometimes, so you might get a great deal on one. It's one of the best phones I've ever had. All of the software issues have already been resolved by the devs here. While it may be a little dated by 2012 standards, it handles almost everything I throw at it and you just can't brick it. That's something those ****ty HTCs and Motorolas can't claim.
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Well put, saving me the efforts of typing in the same.

Thank you all. Based on all you have said, and my research I think I am going to go with the Sony xperia ion. Any hints as to when it's coming out? I have seen q2, I have seen the end of March.
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Samsung is where its at and if you plan on rooting and flashing Roms sammies are 99% unbrickable. As long as you read.....and you WON'T find a more helpful community than the good folks on the skyrocket side!
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Not bad
The infuse is a nice phone from what I have experienced. Doesn't look like it will get CM9 though so I would avoid it.
The screen is absolutely beautiful despite it's pitiful resolution. The colors are stunning and viewable from all angles making pictures better looking than what you took a picture of! Also sometimes I forget I am reading off of my phone when using google books and think it's my kindle.
RAM is pitiful (512?! Really Samsung??) but the phone operates smoothly despite.
Battery life is better than anything HTC has to offer.
I am personally looking for an Atrix 4g and it's laptop dock. Pretty sweet combo.

I got the skyrocket. Nice phone.
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Sammy all the way
love both Samsung and Sony
Samsung has made great phones in my opinion its just ours is an oddball, dont get it
Sony make great all round products
I prefer sammy and sony because they are name brand companies
have an asus transformer tf101, charger broke and cant find new one