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Phones with keyboards - Android or WM, any manufacturer

Hey guys
I won't bore you with a long story so here goes the short one: I need a new phone, I currently have an Acer M900, I could buy another M900 but why not try another?
must have KEYBOARD!
Current choices and ruled out:
Omnia 2 - b7whateveritisbuthasakeyboard - No diferent to my Acer and no chefs
Milestone/Android - serious concerns over its keyboard, market access for non-network locked. Ruled out.
TP2 - lesser model than my current Acer and its HTC which i refuse to buy having been burnt several times.
So, are there any other top of the line phones with a keyboard i haven't considered?
Thanks!!!

Have you looked at the Sony Ericsson X2?
But only the TP2 has XDA developer support

Monty Burns said:
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TP2 - lesser model than my current Acer and its HTC which i refuse to buy having been burnt several times.
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Not heard of an X2 so will take a look but I know the X1 was somewhat of a disaster and also made by HTC.

omniapro b7610. its basically an omnia2 with a keyboard. (slightly smaller screen and internal storage...)
LG Expo (IQ). 1Ghz Snapdragon and wm6.5.
and yeah the xperia x2. looks really sweet but using old processor. not made by HTC.

Monty Burns said:
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Ruled that out.
The X2 does look good but you have just said my very first glance - old slow processor.
Any idea when the X10 is out? That looks spanky...

^just read on gsmarena it will be available in the uk next month.

start or end or no idea? I'm only back in the country for the first few days...... argh!

arghhh!!!
Very pricey and April

X2 will be awesome, and it's coming soon in the States (not sure about elsewhere).
The Expo too is a good phone for sure, what with Snapdragon and a nice keyboard.

From the actual ones: Rhodium!
From the upcoming: Tera, specs: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/NyoR/2009-12-0619-24-13_0023A.jpg
From the best in the history: Universal
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orb3000 said:
From the actual ones: Rhodium!
From the upcoming: Tera, specs: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/NyoR/2009-12-0619-24-13_0023A.jpg
From the best in the history: Universal
Or this one:
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat...-de-forma-oficial&lp=es_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
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Orb, i don't know how many times in the past I have told YOU I will never have another HTC manufactured device. I've also mentioned it in the original post. So thanks but, no thanks!

chambo622 said:
X2 will be awesome, and it's coming soon in the States (not sure about elsewhere).
The Expo too is a good phone for sure, what with Snapdragon and a nice keyboard.
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I looked at the X2 and all I can do is hope the processor is wrong on all the data sheets i've seen. How can they design a spanky phone like that and then put a processor in it thats older than my grandmother!
I can't find anything about the LG Expo, can anyone supply me a link? Is it out or due out in the next few days/weeks?

Monty Burns said:
Orb, i don't know how many times in the past I have told YOU I will never have another HTC manufactured device. I've also mentioned it in the original post. So thanks but, no thanks!
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Sorry I forgot that...
but no need to get mad, I also pointed to a non HTC device

looks very stylish but, that snap on keyboard is not going to be handy when I need it as it will back in my draw in the office or something....
and only a 3mp camera in this day and age????

Yes but a VGA front camera!
And for the KB we should test it before having any 2nd thoughts...
Peace,

Still doesn't change the fact that the keyboard is not permanently attached - no matter how it "feels". Its not going to be with me all the time and a lot of that time will be "I wish I had my keyboard with me right now"

Monty Burns said:
Still doesn't change the fact that the keyboard is not permanently attached - no matter how it "feels". Its not going to be with me all the time and a lot of that time will be "I wish I had my keyboard with me right now"
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Also, I am not too fussed with that big blob in the middle of the keyboard.

I'm lost. Help with getting back to grips with the G1.

A while back I rooted my G1 and currently I'm running
Firmware: 1.6
Kernel: 2.6.29.6-cm42
Mod Version: CyanogenMod-4.1.9999
Build number: DRC83
O.K. I know I might be abit behind with the times but can anyone in the community give me some advice on what I need to update to, say, something like Éclair.
The reason is 1.6 is getting sluggish so I might as well update it to something that is new and fast(ish).
I'll be watching this thread and if you need any questions answered I'll try to get them sorted as quickly as I can.
Thanks
Oh and on a side note I'll be given the choice of the Desire, Droid and X10 for my upgrade in a few weeks, which would you guys suggest?

CM 5.0.7
Droid

Desire or the X10

SuperE
and Desire

I'd say 5.0.7 not the original maybe one of the mods.. SpeedTeam or Magic Elixir..
Make sure to update to 1.7 recovery..
and.... if I'd have to give you an honest answer... neither? but if I had to have a choice I'd get a Desire

Kemekill Products said:
I'd say 5.0.7 not the original maybe one of the mods.. SpeedTeam or Magic Elixir..
Make sure to update to 1.7 recovery..
and.... if I'd have to give you an honest answer... neither? but if I had to have a choice I'd get a Desire
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I'm curious, why would you suggest not going original CM5? I'm using it and i think its pretty much perfect...

Why not try some ROMs out yourself and see?
Personally I think the 32B hardware (G1/Magic) is not powerful enough to deliver a nice experience with Eclair, even with Cyanogen's excellent CM5 release which is a better 2.1 than I imagine even HTC could come out with.
I stick to Dwang which is pretty much Donut AOSP with a fast kernel and framework. Some people disagree and are loving Eclair. Some people like SuperD and CM4 which are about as advanced as Donut can get.
The X10 has got really poor reviews, and doesn't even come with Android 2.0 or 2.1. The Droid is nice and all but the 1GHz in the Desire is difficult to pass up. Out of your options, I'd get a Desire, though a Nexus One would be even better.

Droid is OC'able to some high values... id take it, but im always gonna stick with a device with a keyboard as my main MOD/DEV device..... hate them soft keys.... maybe in the future i'll grab a solid touch device along side my HK phone

Droid2
nexus enterprise(if it even comes out)
htc vision
n1
desire
legend
hd2
tmo mytouch 3g slide
cliq xt
backflip
dream
rogers dream
mt3g
These are the order that google said will get 2.3(gingerbread) in order of org price at the time of purchase, if you have any concerns please contact the AOSP team @ [email protected] or chat with a rep on gtalk(contact steve jobs w/ [email protected]

Ace42 said:
Droid2
nexus enterprise(if it even comes out)
htc vision
n1
desire
legend
hd2
tmo mytouch 3g slide
cliq xt
backflip
dream
rogers dream
mt3g
These are the order that google said will get 2.3(gingerbread) in order of org price at the time of purchase, if you have any concerns please contact the AOSP team @ [email protected] or chat with a rep on gtalk.
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Lol WTF? The HD2, Dream, Rogers Dream, and MT3G, cliq xt, backflip getting gingerbread? Lol thanks for spamming up this thread. Really thats just about the stupidest thing I have read.
OT: Get CM5, then when the time comes get a desire. You can easily root the desire to run nexus firmware so you can get rid of that yucky sense crap (IMO).

personally if you wanna try eclair, get with STEclair, and when it comes time, go with the desire... like he said, its hard to pass up a snapdragon processor

Keith. said:
A while back I rooted my G1 and currently I'm running
Firmware: 1.6
Kernel: 2.6.29.6-cm42
Mod Version: CyanogenMod-4.1.9999
Build number: DRC83
O.K. I know I might be abit behind with the times but can anyone in the community give me some advice on what I need to update to, say, something like Éclair.
The reason is 1.6 is getting sluggish so I might as well update it to something that is new and fast(ish).
I'll be watching this thread and if you need any questions answered I'll try to get them sorted as quickly as I can.
Thanks
Oh and on a side note I'll be given the choice of the Desire, Droid and X10 for my upgrade in a few weeks, which would you guys suggest?
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For now, do a FULL wipe, flash the latest cyanogen 5.0.7 then flash the google apps (gapps), reboot and enjoy!
For your side note, I would go with either the Droid Incredible (HTC Sense 2.1) or Nexus One (Standard 2.2 OS w/Adobe Flash)

Super E 2.1
Motorola DynaTAC
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Also... GET OFF MY LAWN!

Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚ said:
Super E 2.1
Motorola DynaTAC
Also... GET OFF MY LAWN!
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Froyo updates by different Manufacturers / Carriers

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Some interesting things.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/17649/android_upgrades

Check out what Sanding just put out today in regards to stopping tmobile from releasing 2.2 until after the new vibrant comes out.
Sent from MY Perception 10.1 on XDA App

Samsung is on the grid at least. Im happy with what we have. There are more important things than froyo lol.
This is my captivate. There are many like it buy this one is mine.

flashman2002 said:
Samsung is on the grid at least. Im happy with what we have. There are more important things than froyo lol.
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As per the article, that 11% is 1/9 phones, and the 1 had all sorts of issues during the upgrade.

Also of note:

I'm happy with my rom's for bow. I'll be getting the motorolla atrix when it drops
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

WTF? LG is selling P500 - Froyo preinstalled phone...
Why this is not noted here?
Some of the LG phones were updated to Froyo some time ago

Yuna said:
WTF? LG is selling P500 - Froyo preinstalled phone...
Why this is not noted here?
Some of the LG phones were updated to Froyo some time ago
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I included only phones released by major manufacturers and tied to one of the four main U.S. carriers (AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon). As mentioned above, I looked at phones released in 2009 and 2010.
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10chararararar

MikeyMike01 said:
Also of note:
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I am not trying to defend AT&T here, but it is worth noting that most of their Android phones were launched in Nov/Dec, giving very little time in 2011 to get an upgrade (it can be argued they should have started at 2.2, but that is Motorola's issue, not AT&T's).
Also worth noting is that AT&T has had android phones for less than 1 year and is just getting "up to speed" on the android platform. The Backflip was upgraded from 1.6 to 2.1 in 2010 (which is as high as Moto supports for the Backflip), and while it doesn't count for the article, it should have given AT&T some experience in how to do android upgrades that will help in the future for other upgrades.
If you look at the Android phones that AT&T sold directly (on their website and in their stores) for more than 2 months (3 - Aria, Backflip, & Captivate) and all upgrades (2.1 & 2.2), AT&T is actually at 33%. Since the author did not count the AT&T Nexus 1 (because it was not sold by AT&T), I do not know why the Dell Streak was included either (since it is also not sold by AT&T). The author also included the Dell Aero, which while announced on AT&T, AFAIK, was never actually sold by AT&T.

Sony Xperia Pro, thoughts?

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Im coming from a HTC Desire Z aka G2, and it got water damage and is toast.
this phone seems like a likely competitor to my savy qwerty texting habits and has all the right features in the right place. 8 mp camera, 720p recording, a good processor and is quad band including 3g? thats awesome!
what are your thoughts on this phone? it is due around end ofsummer, Will it be available for Rogers in Canada? any honest feedback is appreciated, the phone seems awesome but i tend to overlook minimal things.
Whats your thoughts?
more info at
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperia-pro?cc=gb&lc=en
and now since the bootloader is apparently going to be shipped unlocked, the modding community would be huge.

jark99 said:
Will it be available for Rogers in Canada?
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Surely that's something you'd need to ask Rogers?
jark99 said:
and now since the bootloader is apparently going to be shipped unlocked, the modding community would be huge.
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The bootloaders aren't shipped unlocked. But SE will provide you with an unlocking code for free.
The only point to bear in mind is that only handsets that are SIM-unlocked/un-branded can have their bootloaders unlocked. So basically if you purchase directly from a network, you'll be stuck with a locked bootloader (as things stand, obviously someone could work out how to crack it by the time the Pro goes on sale).
As for the modding community being huge, it's pretty quiet for the Arc and the Play at the moment.
The handsets have been rooted a couple of different ways but developing Recovery for them is slow going and there are no custom ROMs yet.
There simply doesn't seem to be much interest from devs.

Personally, It's not my thing, Although nice none the less, One thing I really don't like though is the grid keyboard which I find hard to type on, Might just be me though

Anything under a 4" screen is a non starter for me. Xperia is a nice phone but they are slow and not so much development for it. But then, that's just me

I'd be wary of SE phones. I have an X10 and its a little bit of a let down. SE's custom firmware is sketchy to say the least and there update schedule is terrible. The X10 was SE's first android phone and they seem to be listening and learning from this customer's, hence the X10 2.3 update that was announced recently, but I'd be very wary. Test the phone out at a store of something for a bit and see how you like it. Perhaps SE has really improved with their latest phone.

Lessons have already been learnt with the likes of the Arc and the Play, which would be a much more reasonable basis for any opinion of the Pro as they're essentially all the same handset with subtle tweaks to the hardware.
SE have drastically overhauled their custom UI so that it impacts less on firmware updates and, unlike the X10, have launched their new handsets with the latest version of Android as opposed to being out of date from day one.

First Android 4.0 mobile phone in Japan

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On 24th Of Feb, SoftBank Mobile, has released first Android 4.0 mobile phone called AQUOS PHONE 104SH made by Sharp.
As you know, Japanese mobile phone can be used only Japan because of unnecessary or unused functions for other countries, sim lock and so on.
But, the company , Sharp, is planning to sell this new Android 4.0 phone to all over the world.
China gets this Android 4.0 mobile phone.
Also, it has a new technology called "Direct cracking".
This feature is to adjust the timing of your touching screen.
Basically, when you touch the screen, the mobile phone can recognize your touch in 0.1 sec.
This enables us to use mobile phone much more faster when you use it.
Here is spec.
OS: Android 4.0
Display: 4.5inch
Weight: 126g
Stand by time: 3G 500 hours
GSM 380 hours
CPU: OMAP4460 1.5GHz dual-core
ROM:16G bytes
RAM:1G bytes
3G GSM(900/1800/1900MHz)
Recharge time: 240 mins
Here is demo movie:http://youtu.be/fr0R7xxe9G8

I've always wanted to try a sharp phone for some reason... I doubt this would come to states... Especially Verizon.
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antispiral said:
I've always wanted to try a sharp phone for some reason... I doubt this would come to states... Especially Verizon.
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Thank you for your post.
This new phone is actually different from Galaxy Nexus, especially UI.
It is because Sharp made new UI for it, which is User Friendly.
There is also setting something called "long-lasting battery mode".
This setting is really useful.
If you need more info, i will give it to you, guys.

How do you know "Sharp, is planning to sell this new Android 4.0 phone to all over the world" and "China gets this Android 4.0 mobile phone."
Is there any official schedule or declarement?
I like this phone so much, but I think I cannot wait any longer...

sunnytzeng said:
How do you know "Sharp, is planning to sell this new Android 4.0 phone to all over the world" and "China gets this Android 4.0 mobile phone."
Is there any official schedule or declarement?
I like this phone so much, but I think I cannot wait any longer...
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Thank you for your message.
Sharp dosent mention when they are going to sell it in China.
But, I saw the article saying "we are planing to sell in China and all over the world".
I will report on XDA when China gets this beutiful mobile phone.
In fact, Im thinking of getting this phone.
Mobile: Desire HD
ROM: ARDH

13770147 said:
Thank you for your message.
Sharp dosent mention when they are going to sell it in China.
But, I saw the article saying "we are planing to sell in China and all over the world".
I will report on XDA when China gets this beutiful mobile phone.
In fact, Im thinking of getting this phone.
Mobile: Desire HD
ROM: ARDH
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Thank you for your reply and wait for your good news!

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I really like the look of this phone, especially the waterproofing features (using the phone in a bath, anyone?!), and the only thing that turns me off is the lack of camera flash (and the cramming of 12mpx into the sensor) - poor quality photos, but more importantly, no torch functionality at night (which is a common use for my HTC Desire).
I've been doing a lot of reading to see if it can be rooted, or what the likelihood of an exploit is. I don't have one to play with, so I have no idea if it supports ADB out of the box, or what version of the Linux kernel is running (and if it is susceptible to the exploit CVE-2012-056) - it would be interesting to be able to play with one. Has anyone else heard any information on this front?

help me.
i need room 4.0.3 for Softbank 104SH
thank all