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I installed Cyanogen Mod 7 on my new desire and recently discovered that if I move an app to the sd card I am no longer able to use/ add its widgets. Is this normal?
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Yes, some apps don't work if they're on your sd instead of your phone.
The thing is, they do work, just the widget disappears from the list. Namely, I am talking about Evernote and Springpad.
impactor said:
I installed Cyanogen Mod 7 on my new desire and recently discovered that if I move an app to the sd card I am no longer able to use/ add its widgets. Is this normal?
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Very normal.
Not sure if it still does it in the latest update, but in the previous version Evernote (2.5?) moving the app to SD also breaks the "take a photo" function. You can take a photo, but they never attach properly.
I'm guessing that the "widgets" are stored in the portion of the app that got moved off to SD. I don't know how Move2SD works, but from what I understand, a portion (which I term a "loader") have to stay in app storage. I am guessing that if the widget and resources stay with the loader instead gotten moved off to the SD card the widgets will still work, but I don't know. Maybe some Google folks can clarify, but that'd be off topic.
What surprises me is that there is any difference. After all, Android is using ext file system and this has support for symbolic and hard links.
Using these, I don't see why a program would operate any different between "/" and "/sdcard/"
In short, most Apps downloaded from either Amazon Market or Android Market won't stay on my home screens, but still show in my app screens. I am running a rooted stock 2.2 kernel.
Just wanted to know if anyone else has had this issue, and if there was a way to fix it without having to restore my phone.
Problems with Apps staying on Home Screens
I have had the same problems with 2.2 but only with apps that are moved to the SD card. Whenever I reboot the phone, the apps on the SD card are gone from my home screen.
krakerx said:
In short, most Apps downloaded from either Amazon Market or Android Market won't stay on my home screens, but still show in my app screens. I am running a rooted stock 2.2 kernel.
Just wanted to know if anyone else has had this issue, and if there was a way to fix it without having to restore my phone.
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restore your app back to your phone memory from external sd so it will not disappear once rebooting your phone that's one downside of stock froyo rom.
happens to me occasionally with apps stored on internal mem. i dont use sd for apps... angrybirds is the biggest culprit
All my apps are on phone mem, and yeah, main prob is angry birds. Ha, nice to know i'm not the only one with this issue.
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Wow good call, upon further investigation, all my problemed apps were put to the sd card by default... thanks for your help!
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4walls said:
I have had the same problems with 2.2 but only with apps that are moved to the SD card. Whenever I reboot the phone, the apps on the SD card are gone from my home screen.
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Same here on stock 2.2. I tried Fast Reboot market app for relaunching TouchWiz, also master cleared data. No joy. Samsung never answered my support email, but what worked was Go Launcher EX, a great alternative to TW.
Strangest thing though... after clearing Market app's data and rebooting to resynch the My Apps section of Market I saw my sim card glitch (slashed circle, no bars) and after reseating/rebooting I was left with phone plus unusable external SD. One new sim, new Cappy (my 4th) and new SD card later, needless to say Apps2SD nevermore!
krakerx said:
All my apps are on phone mem, and yeah, main prob is angry birds. Ha, nice to know i'm not the only one with this issue.
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I think angrybirds defualts to the SD card. Hence angrybirds, and other SD apps dissapearing like the op stated.
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It seems whenever I reboot...I notice a bunch of apps gone..I reinstall and then when I reboot again...they either stay or get deleted again.
EDIT: my infuse did this when it was not rooted also. I just now rooted it and had to reinstall a bunch of apps...I did that and rebooted and voila. They are gone again.
Mine resets my wallpaper everytime I reboot :\
matermine said:
Mine resets my wallpaper everytime I reboot :\
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Yeah same here. Gets rid of my live wallpaper everytime.
Rooms?
Are you guys stock?
tyshemi said:
Are you guys stock?
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I was stock and I JUST now rooted it after a couple weeks of having it. It still did this before I rooted. Also my apps constantly force close now.
Fix try
Fee454 said:
I was stock and I JUST now rooted it after a couple weeks of having it. It still did this before I rooted.
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Ok go into settings-applications-all-move apps that are diisapering to the phone close reboot see if that works?
they come back after about 5 minuets or so. its because they are stored on the sd card.
i got used to it.
Does it matter that it says media scanning complete up top and I still dont see them?
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Move all the apps off the SD Card, then remove the SD Card to prevent future apps from being installed to it.
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I have a 32GB SD card which I would like to keep in the phone... :-/ But the apps themselves are on the internal SD I believe. it's odd...my friend doesn't have any of these issues...we both upgraded same day with the infuse. It could be something simple I am just a android noob and plan on living on these forums reading as much as I can.
the disappearing wallpaper is due to the wallpaper being on the sdcard and not phone storage (same device in a physical sense, different partition/device to the os) the ui loads before the sdcard mounts. the media scanner seems to run before the apps are loaded. so it needs to load the default wallpapper to unlock the phone.
the other disappearing apps may be due to the same thing but they should show before you have an opportunity to reinstall them, unless they are somehow on the external sd card and that sd card happens to be a class 2 or something slow like that.
i hate apps to sd for anything other than older phones that have under 512mb of phone storage. it just causes confusion, i dont really know why some apps like to install to the sd card on this phone others dont and it never asks you, this never happened on my captivate.
Dani897 said:
the disappearing wallpaper is due to the wallpaper being on the sdcard and not phone storage (same device in a physical sense, different partition/device to the os) the ui loads before the sdcard mounts. the media scanner seems to run before the apps are loaded. so it needs to load the default wallpapper to unlock the phone.
the other disappearing apps may be due to the same thing but they should show before you have an opportunity to reinstall them, unless they are somehow on the external sd card and that sd card happens to be a class 2 or something slow like that.
i hate apps to sd for anything other than older phones that have under 512mb of phone storage. it just causes confusion, i dont really know why some apps like to install to the sd card on this phone others dont and it never asks you, this never happened on my captivate.
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Hmm...makes sense...I do have a 32gb sd class 2 sandisk card but i've heard mixed things on whether the different classes matter on the Infuse. But yes the apps issue is strange...but they are on the internal SD. Some are on the phone. So moving them all to the phone should fix the disappearing issue?
I just worry about running out of space. phone memory is only 2gb.
Fee454 said:
Hmm...makes sense...I do have a 32gb sd class 2 sandisk card but i've heard mixed things on whether the different classes matter on the Infuse. But yes the apps issue is strange...but they are on the internal SD. Some are on the phone. So moving them all to the phone should fix the disappearing issue?
I just worry about running out of space. phone memory is only 2gb.
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2GB is a pretty huge amount of space for apps so I wouldn't worry about that. Some of the larger games that require downloading extra cache files, like Order & Chaos, save that to a special cache folder that AFAIK doesn't count towards the 2GB internal memory limit (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Does anyone know of a way to disable apps saving to the SD card by default? In other words, how can we ensure that we always save apps to the phone? Saving to SD actually causes one of my favorite apps, SoundHound, to not work correctly as the widget isn't available, even after I move it to the phone memory.
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deanhatescoffee said:
2GB is a pretty huge amount of space for apps so I wouldn't worry about that. Some of the larger games that require downloading extra cache files, like Order & Chaos, save that to a special cache folder that AFAIK doesn't count towards the 2GB internal memory limit (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Does anyone know of a way to disable apps saving to the SD card by default? In other words, how can we ensure that we always save apps to the phone? Saving to SD actually causes one of my favorite apps, SoundHound, to not work correctly as the widget isn't available, even after I move it to the phone memory.
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My current problems are, everytime I reboot my break.com app gets deleted and has to be reinstalled...it won't let me move it to phone memory. Netflix app gets deleted also. When I try to move that to phone is says low memory. I have 1.4gb free on it.
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My current problems are, everytime I reboot my break.com app gets deleted and has to be reinstalled...it won't let me move it to phone memory. Netflix app gets deleted also. When I try to move that to phone is says low memory. I have 1.4gb free on it.
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That sucks. If it makes you feel any better, sometimes my Infuse will say that I have insufficient memory to install a new app as well, when I have more than 1.5GB free. :-[
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That sucks. If it makes you feel any better, sometimes my Infuse will say that I have insufficient memory to install a new app as well, when I have more than 1.5GB free. :-[
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Do you have the new android market? Try uninstalling it and using the old one. It fixed my issue when trying to download apps.
Optimus-Prime said:
they come back after about 5 minuets or so. its because they are stored on the sd card.
i got used to it.
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i hate the delay on loading apps that are on the sdcard. i moved every single app i have on to the phone and dont have to wait 5 minutes to use my phone. apps on the sdcard are also slower and cant include more advanced features like widgets. sadly since theres two sdcards, theres no option to have apps install to the phone by default.
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i hate the delay on loading apps that are on the sdcard. i moved every single app i have on to the phone and dont have to wait 5 minutes to use my phone. apps on the sdcard are also slower and cant include more advanced features like widgets. sadly since theres two sdcards, theres no option to have apps install to the phone by default.
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It's odd...I have moved all the apps I could to my phone memory and since then I have had no problems after reboots except the break.com and netflix app. Not really a big deal it only takes a few seconds to reinstall those. I have waited 5-10 min after bootup for those to come back but they do not. Just a minor annoyance though.
i can imagine big video apps caching to the sdcard.
Actually for whatever reason I was able to move the break app to my phone this time. Only took 20 reinstalls lol
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I think I read about this here a while ago, can not find it anymore.
After update to firmware 2.2 apps can be stores on sd-card.
BUT icons disappers from desktop when phone is restarted.
This only if its app is on sd-card.
Is there a fix for this, very annoying.
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I think I read about this here a while ago, can not find it anymore.
After update to firmware 2.2 apps can be stores on sd-card.
BUT icons disappers from desktop when phone is restarted.
This only if its app is on sd-card.
Is there a fix for this, very annoying.
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SD Card scanning takes time when you restart your phone, so for all the apps that you have installed in your SD Card, it will take time to load. Also widgets wont load if installed on SD Card. Please check if your icons are not coming at all or they are coming with a delay?
Thanks for your answer.
I upgraded to Froyo XXJPS some 4 months ago, ever since its been like this.
I have done nothing else to the phone.
Indeed it takes awhile to scan sd-card, but they do not load back on desktop even if I repositioned them after last restart.
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Thanks for your answer.
I upgraded to Froyo XXJPS some 4 months ago, ever since its been like this.
I have done nothing else to the phone.
Indeed it takes awhile to scan sd-card, but they do not load back on desktop even if I repositioned them after last restart.
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Check your notification bar if the sd card is being scanned or not and make sure widgets are on the phones memory. Also i would recommend rooting your phone, partitioning the sd card and using link2sd app from the android market. It moves your apps to the partition of your sd card and your phone thinks its your internal memory so it won't do a media scan on it meaning your apps load a lot faster. If you want to partition your sd card don't hesitate to message me for more info
It is not only widgets that is left out, none of the icons for the applications is loaded back. If the app is stored on sd-card that is.
Icons for apps stored on phones internal memory load fine.
I see this tiny sd-card-symbol in the notificatin bar for quite a while when reebooting. So it must be media scanned.
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It is not only widgets that is left out, none of the icons for the applications is loaded back. If the app is stored on sd-card that is.
Icons for apps stored on phones internal memory load fine.
I see this tiny sd-card-symbol in the notificatin bar for quite a while when reebooting. So it must be media scanned.
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Yes, it's a media scan. Just move them to internal memory and it will be fine.
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something like this happened to me a while back, the apps were not in the app drawer and also the icons changed to default white and green couldnt launch from home screen. I tried everything short off formatting memory card. I ended up reinstalling all the apps on the memory card ( wont pick up addition space since its already stored on your sd) and now they have been workinf fine since then, i can reboot or install to sd without a problem.
verdict - maybe sent a corrupted apk to sd.
as far as i know (from the time when i was on stock froyo), when you use the "original" way to move your apps to the sd card (settings/applications/manage applications, select app, press move to SD card) the icons placed on your desktop will be removed on a reboot. i dont think its a real "error" on your side, its just how its programmed in stock froyo.
I guess I was waiting for comment like yours, there is a 'bug' in froyo.
Do I have any other options than to root?
Are there updates to be found on froyo.
How did you root?
Name some of the biggest benefits in a rooted phone.
im not saying its a bug in android or in the android version we have on our phone. i dont know if other phones running android have the same "problem" with this.
if you want root do a quick search on the G3 section for it. its pretty good explained in a thread.
running a script like apps2sd requires you to partition your sd card, the best thing of it is that after its setup it needs no attention anymore, all the apps you install will be moved to the second partition untill it full. so basicly your phone is tricked into thinking that your internal mem is way larger then it should be .
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I guess I was waiting for comment like yours, there is a 'bug' in froyo.
Do I have any other options than to root?
Are there updates to be found on froyo.
How did you root?
Name some of the biggest benefits in a rooted phone.
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The first option is to move your apps to internal memory and see if they all fit in the internal memory or not. I think rooting is an easy way to sort out your problem is the internal memory is not enough for your apps.
The latest update to froyo is XXJPU and it's blazing fast! Just update to that and root your phone using this program. All the info is on that thread but all you really need to do is go to settings > applications > development > make sure USB debugging is ticked. Then connect your phone to your computer using USB cable, open the program as administrator and click root. Follow the commands (really easy) and then after everything is done just manually reboot your phone.
Just rooting your phone doesn't really do anything dangerous etc. All it does is allows you to edit the /system of your phone as this is restricted with androids. After rooting your phone you will be able to expand your internal memory. This is done by partitioning your sd card and using an app called link2sd or a script called app2sd. The app is easier.
Hope this helps and added some useful links in there so be sure to check them out.
Accordin to KIES I allready have the latest uppdate, which I do not seems to have. Where do I find XXJPU.
I am on Zeus ROM (actually, I don't think what ROM I am on matters here). After installing a few apps, I noticed that some apps go into internal memory, and some to external. I can't seem to get the logic of how it is decided where to direct which app. I never cared for install location, that is, until this morning.
I rebooted my phone in a routine once-a-week-reboot. When it booted up, it gave me a message that external sd got corrupt and needs to be reformatted. I overlooked it for the time being. Then when I reached work, I noticed about half my apps missing. Then it flashed to me that I noticed some apps in internal and some in external memory in TiBu.
I had to download TiBu too from market since it was missing, and then restored my apps. Now all are in internal memory since external card is corrupted.
Now, after all this history, my question would be to know if there is a way to force the default location of apps to internal memory. Infuse has loads of internal memory, and I see no harm in filling it up (well, that is, if I can really install that many apps).
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I am on Zeus ROM (actually, I don't think what ROM I am on matters here). After installing a few apps, I noticed that some apps go into internal memory, and some to external. I can't seem to get the logic of how it is decided where to direct which app. I never cared for install location, that is, until this morning.
I rebooted my phone in a routine once-a-week-reboot. When it booted up, it gave me a message that external sd got corrupt and needs to be reformatted. I overlooked it for the time being. Then when I reached work, I noticed about half my apps missing. Then it flashed to me that I noticed some apps in internal and some in external memory in TiBu.
I had to download TiBu too from market since it was missing, and then restored my apps. Now all are in internal memory since external card is corrupted.
Now, after all this history, my question would be to know if there is a way to force the default location of apps to internal memory. Infuse has loads of internal memory, and I see no harm in filling it up (well, that is, if I can really install that many apps).
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This is exciting. I get to help diablo.
Could be a trick..maybe not as easy as it looks.
There is a setting in manage applications that allows you to Move the app from sd to phone. Is this what you mean?
Settings.manage application. Click on app. Move to phone?
There are some market app s that will let you choose where to install an app as well....folio? Something..
I routinely do this for app i deem important...ie not games etc..
Did i pass?
qkster said:
This is exciting. I get to help diablo.
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Thanks qkster, that's so cute
qkster said:
Could be a trick..maybe not as easy as it looks.
There is a setting in manage applications that allows you to Move the app from sd to phone. Is this what you mean?
Settings.manage application. Click on app. Move to phone?
There are some market app s that will let you choose where to install an app as well....folio? Something..
I routinely do this for app i deem important...ie not games etc..
Did i pass?
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Not moving from phone to SD manually; I have to do this routinely on my touch pad cos of its low internal memory.
I was looking for a means of forcing an app to install to internal memory as a default. Even as we speak, with about 62 apps installed, I still have about 1.4 GB internal memory free (as per TiBu). I would prefer an app to go there, than to external SD.
By the way, it helps to have TiBu auto backup apps every day. I have two set up, one for newly installed apps, and one for all modified data everyday around 3 am. That saved my life with all apps with up to date data when I restored them.
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Thanks qkster, that's so cute
Not moving from phone to SD manually; I have to do this routinely on my touch pad cos of its low internal memory.
I was looking for a means of forcing an app to install to internal memory as a default. Even as we speak, with about 62 apps installed, I still have about 1.4 GB internal memory free (as per TiBu). I would prefer an app to go there, than to external SD.
By the way, it helps to have TiBu auto backup apps every day. I have two set up, one for newly installed apps, and one for all modified data everyday around 3 am. That saved my life with all apps with up to date data when I restored them.
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I knew there was a catch.
Did you look at es task manager on market?
qkster said:
I knew there was a catch.
Did you look at es task manager on market?
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Looking at it now
My interesting observation over the last few days:
Since moving all my apps to internal memory, for some reason, even with a lot of apps in memory, I still have about 150 MB free 90% of the time.
Earlier it used to fall to 80 too.
Phone is snappy, so not sure how this is happening. And since Infuse has loads of internal memory (mine has atleast 1.3 GB free), I think it might be better off moving apps to internal memory.
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