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It seems whenever I reboot...I notice a bunch of apps gone..I reinstall and then when I reboot again...they either stay or get deleted again.
EDIT: my infuse did this when it was not rooted also. I just now rooted it and had to reinstall a bunch of apps...I did that and rebooted and voila. They are gone again.
Mine resets my wallpaper everytime I reboot :\
matermine said:
Mine resets my wallpaper everytime I reboot :\
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Yeah same here. Gets rid of my live wallpaper everytime.
Rooms?
Are you guys stock?
tyshemi said:
Are you guys stock?
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I was stock and I JUST now rooted it after a couple weeks of having it. It still did this before I rooted. Also my apps constantly force close now.
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Fee454 said:
I was stock and I JUST now rooted it after a couple weeks of having it. It still did this before I rooted.
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Ok go into settings-applications-all-move apps that are diisapering to the phone close reboot see if that works?
they come back after about 5 minuets or so. its because they are stored on the sd card.
i got used to it.
Does it matter that it says media scanning complete up top and I still dont see them?
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Move all the apps off the SD Card, then remove the SD Card to prevent future apps from being installed to it.
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I have a 32GB SD card which I would like to keep in the phone... :-/ But the apps themselves are on the internal SD I believe. it's odd...my friend doesn't have any of these issues...we both upgraded same day with the infuse. It could be something simple I am just a android noob and plan on living on these forums reading as much as I can.
the disappearing wallpaper is due to the wallpaper being on the sdcard and not phone storage (same device in a physical sense, different partition/device to the os) the ui loads before the sdcard mounts. the media scanner seems to run before the apps are loaded. so it needs to load the default wallpapper to unlock the phone.
the other disappearing apps may be due to the same thing but they should show before you have an opportunity to reinstall them, unless they are somehow on the external sd card and that sd card happens to be a class 2 or something slow like that.
i hate apps to sd for anything other than older phones that have under 512mb of phone storage. it just causes confusion, i dont really know why some apps like to install to the sd card on this phone others dont and it never asks you, this never happened on my captivate.
Dani897 said:
the disappearing wallpaper is due to the wallpaper being on the sdcard and not phone storage (same device in a physical sense, different partition/device to the os) the ui loads before the sdcard mounts. the media scanner seems to run before the apps are loaded. so it needs to load the default wallpapper to unlock the phone.
the other disappearing apps may be due to the same thing but they should show before you have an opportunity to reinstall them, unless they are somehow on the external sd card and that sd card happens to be a class 2 or something slow like that.
i hate apps to sd for anything other than older phones that have under 512mb of phone storage. it just causes confusion, i dont really know why some apps like to install to the sd card on this phone others dont and it never asks you, this never happened on my captivate.
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Hmm...makes sense...I do have a 32gb sd class 2 sandisk card but i've heard mixed things on whether the different classes matter on the Infuse. But yes the apps issue is strange...but they are on the internal SD. Some are on the phone. So moving them all to the phone should fix the disappearing issue?
I just worry about running out of space. phone memory is only 2gb.
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Hmm...makes sense...I do have a 32gb sd class 2 sandisk card but i've heard mixed things on whether the different classes matter on the Infuse. But yes the apps issue is strange...but they are on the internal SD. Some are on the phone. So moving them all to the phone should fix the disappearing issue?
I just worry about running out of space. phone memory is only 2gb.
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2GB is a pretty huge amount of space for apps so I wouldn't worry about that. Some of the larger games that require downloading extra cache files, like Order & Chaos, save that to a special cache folder that AFAIK doesn't count towards the 2GB internal memory limit (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Does anyone know of a way to disable apps saving to the SD card by default? In other words, how can we ensure that we always save apps to the phone? Saving to SD actually causes one of my favorite apps, SoundHound, to not work correctly as the widget isn't available, even after I move it to the phone memory.
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2GB is a pretty huge amount of space for apps so I wouldn't worry about that. Some of the larger games that require downloading extra cache files, like Order & Chaos, save that to a special cache folder that AFAIK doesn't count towards the 2GB internal memory limit (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Does anyone know of a way to disable apps saving to the SD card by default? In other words, how can we ensure that we always save apps to the phone? Saving to SD actually causes one of my favorite apps, SoundHound, to not work correctly as the widget isn't available, even after I move it to the phone memory.
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My current problems are, everytime I reboot my break.com app gets deleted and has to be reinstalled...it won't let me move it to phone memory. Netflix app gets deleted also. When I try to move that to phone is says low memory. I have 1.4gb free on it.
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My current problems are, everytime I reboot my break.com app gets deleted and has to be reinstalled...it won't let me move it to phone memory. Netflix app gets deleted also. When I try to move that to phone is says low memory. I have 1.4gb free on it.
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That sucks. If it makes you feel any better, sometimes my Infuse will say that I have insufficient memory to install a new app as well, when I have more than 1.5GB free. :-[
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That sucks. If it makes you feel any better, sometimes my Infuse will say that I have insufficient memory to install a new app as well, when I have more than 1.5GB free. :-[
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Do you have the new android market? Try uninstalling it and using the old one. It fixed my issue when trying to download apps.
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they come back after about 5 minuets or so. its because they are stored on the sd card.
i got used to it.
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i hate the delay on loading apps that are on the sdcard. i moved every single app i have on to the phone and dont have to wait 5 minutes to use my phone. apps on the sdcard are also slower and cant include more advanced features like widgets. sadly since theres two sdcards, theres no option to have apps install to the phone by default.
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i hate the delay on loading apps that are on the sdcard. i moved every single app i have on to the phone and dont have to wait 5 minutes to use my phone. apps on the sdcard are also slower and cant include more advanced features like widgets. sadly since theres two sdcards, theres no option to have apps install to the phone by default.
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It's odd...I have moved all the apps I could to my phone memory and since then I have had no problems after reboots except the break.com and netflix app. Not really a big deal it only takes a few seconds to reinstall those. I have waited 5-10 min after bootup for those to come back but they do not. Just a minor annoyance though.
i can imagine big video apps caching to the sdcard.
Actually for whatever reason I was able to move the break app to my phone this time. Only took 20 reinstalls lol
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I keep getting a low memory message. I have most apps i installed on the sd card, which is 8gb. I can't save evernote or backups. There is little media save 50 pictures. Anyone tell me how to free up some of the internal memory, or the usb storage?
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Do you have most of your apps installed on your sdcard or usbstorage? If your using the move to sd card method in manage applications, then it's going to store it in your usbstorage, not your external sd card. This happens with Apps2SD too.
How the hell can someone have their usb storage memory filled up with just apps?
Are you putting music or something in the usb storage, and not on your memory card?
I mean seriously, most apps are small. VERY small.
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How the hell can someone have their usb storage memory filled up with just apps?
Are you putting music or something in the usb storage, and not on your memory card?
I mean seriously, most apps are small. VERY small.
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That's true, but most apps also have additional data that they store in /sdcard. And since the blaze has /sdcard as usbstorage, everything goes there so it fills up quick. I have a lot of apps too but the ones that store data in the usbstorage, I move to /sdcard/external_sd by using GL to SD. Although it only works for gameloft games and data stored in /sdcard/Android and /sdcard/data, those are the two folders that usually take up the most space.
Well, gaming on your phone is the culprit obviously.
I don't have many apps at all, no games.
Now i can't even move any apps to my sd card. It says my memory is too low. I can't attach pictures.or.even open my gallery without getting this.message.
I'm not following.the.usb storage thing. How's it work?
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Your phone has something like 1 gig of storage that is supposed to effectively be ram where applications are stored, and another 1 gig of memory labelled as usb storage in the phone where data can be stored, or applications can be stored if it is set to "move to sd card".
Then of course, you have the actual SD card, of whatever size is in the phone.
Seriously, I can't say enough times, if your phone is low on memory, you are doing something weird.
For example, those gameloft games, are quite huge, and the additional data they require would go to usb storage. Two or three of them can fill up the phone's space without a problem. This would be true for any phone out there.
Another likely culprit is something simple...you might have been putting your music or video or other large amounts of stuff you want to have on the phone in one of the first two mentioned locations without realizing it. If you mount your phone to the computer, you've notice how two drives show up?
One drive is the "usb storage", and another would be the actual SD card you have in the phone. I don't know why it does this, but I suspect it's common as my sony e-reader does the same thing.
To put it simply, don't store things to the phone's "memory" that you don't need to, and you'll be fine.
usb storage
I took a look and sure enough, the usb storage contained things I thought were on the sd card. I don't have much media on this phone at all. Maybe 70 pictures, no music, a couple videos, and I have no gameloft games at all.
I noticed that some apps are also stored here. I moved the little media to the sd card, but can I also move the apps here?
And is there anyway to change the settings so these files are directed here rather than the internal storage?
"A couple videos" was probably the culprit, as they tend to be big files of course.
About moving the apps to the sd card....allow me comment on that, and then rant a little bit.
Many apps can be moved to the sd card. If it's enabled by the app, you can just go to settings, applications, manage applications or whatever, and select the application you want, and in the same screen where you can uninstall an app, some apps let you move them to the sd card. Not every allows this, and in general, if you have an app with a widget on the sd card, it either won't work, or something weird happens. (Android designed limitation with widgets)
Now, to my rant.
My first android phone was a nexus 1. Great phone, but compared to a lot of phones it has a small amount of program memory. So if people were prone to having lots of apps especially large ones such as google earth, java, or whatever, that space filled up quick.
I think it was around 2.2 when Android started opening up moving apps to the sd card.
To this DAY, you can go into the market comments and pretty much read moron after moron doing things like, "I rated this a 1, because I can't move it to the sd card! Gah, you suck, let me move this to the sd card!"
Some times they would have a point, but more often than not, they wouldn't.
For example, this app that was 25k in size, had 15 comments in a row about people whining to move it to the sd card. SERIOUSLY? 25k is NOTHING, even to a phone with limited memory such as a nexus one.
And then there would be people whining about apps on SD cards for apps that you SHOULD NOT put on an sd card. "What apps wouldn't you want to run on an sd card?", you might ask.
Any app that should be always running, or able to be run by some event changing, while your phone is plugged into the computer.
For example....let's say you have a call blocking app. There are a few, I use one myself. If you move it to the sd card, that app can not function if the sd card is mounted to the computer. Phones mount memory cards just like computers do, and if it's unplugged......it doesn't work! So if you have the card mounted in the computer and your phone rings....guess what, your call blocking app doesn't work, and that annoying jerk is making your phone ring again.
Somewhere, a kitten dies.
I used the call blocking app as an example as something that even though it's not doing anything most of the time, but that when another event happens (your phone ringing), it can't do it's function.
I used to know why widgets on the sd card didn't work, but I suspect it has something to do with just they can't work reliably on the sd card. For example, my preferred music player poweramp, can be moved to the sd card, and of course it has widgets. So.....the dev made an add-on you can download where the widget stays on the phone, the app goes to the sd card.
Personally, I just keep poweramp on the phone memory. Since it's one of my 5 most commonly used apps, it only makes sense, right?
I can't remember if flash for browsers is able to be moved to the sd card yet, but what I do know is people whined and whined and whined about it, not realizing that.........the browser wouldn't work very well if flash was installed to the sd card.
Titaniumbackup and probably other similar apps can force apps to the sd card that are not normally allowed, but they will of course caution you about doing it. Some of that caution verbiage is there for reasons which are in this post, and I'm sure there's other concerns as well.
Moving along to your last question...... that depends.
Some apps can be configured to have a preferred directory location for storage, but realize that there are still phones out there that either don't have memory card slots, or don't have "usb storage". As a result, sometimes it works easily, sometimes it doesn't, but most file explorer apps make moving stuff around pretty easy.
Personally, I'm not really sure what the point of having both is, but it seems to be common. All I know is that having a memory card slot is a good thing. There are a few reasons why I wish I would have just bought a google nexus, but...... odds are the 64gig microsdxc cards work in this phone, and well, I plan to buy one.
Sorry nexus, you're hot.....but having 4 times the music or video on hand, is something I think I would enjoy more.
I'm having the same issues with the Samsung Blaze ~ when I go to Settings, Storage, USB Storage it shows total space 1.40 GB and available 127 MB. When I go to files, usbstorage, there is NOTHING in it and it shows "no files". I have 4 applications I've downloaded, no more. ALL of my pictures and music are on the external card. When I go to active applications, then Storage, it shows System storage 119MB of 1.12GB, USB storage 1.28GB used of 1.40GB, and SD card 4.33GB used of 7.39GB. I don't have games on it at all.
I'm not an Einstein, but I'm getting really tired of everyone telling me I'm obviously not smart enough to have a smart phone. I'm no dummy when it comes to tech.
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"A couple videos" was probably the culprit, as they tend to be big files of course.
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similar problem - Rhapsody was the culprit
I had a similar problem -- I couldn't see any files in the USB Storage folder in Files, but it was full. In my case, Rhapsody was causing the issue -- by default it downloads music to /mnt/sdcard (or something like that, I changed it and can't remember the address exactly. But from what Cirkustanz said above, the Blaze interprets that address as "USB Storage" (confusing name, that) which is really internal storage. In the advanced settings for Rhapsody I changed it to /sdcard/external_sd and all of a sudden had 700MB free in USB Storage. Lost all of my Rhapsody downloads, however, and will have to add them back.
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I'm having the same issues with the Samsung Blaze ~ when I go to Settings, Storage, USB Storage it shows total space 1.40 GB and available 127 MB. When I go to files, usbstorage, there is NOTHING in it and it shows "no files". I have 4 applications I've downloaded, no more. ALL of my pictures and music are on the external card. When I go to active applications, then Storage, it shows System storage 119MB of 1.12GB, USB storage 1.28GB used of 1.40GB, and SD card 4.33GB used of 7.39GB. I don't have games on it at all.
I'm not an Einstein, but I'm getting really tired of everyone telling me I'm obviously not smart enough to have a smart phone. I'm no dummy when it comes to tech.
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"A couple videos" was probably the culprit, as they tend to be big files of course.
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I had a similar problem -- I couldn't see any files in the USB Storage folder in Files, but it was full. In my case, Rhapsody was causing the issue -- by default it downloads music to /mnt/sdcard (or something like that, I changed it and can't remember the address exactly. But from what Cirkustanz said above, the Blaze interprets that address as "USB Storage" (confusing name, that) which is really internal storage. In the advanced settings for Rhapsody I changed it to /sdcard/external_sd and all of a sudden had 700MB free in USB Storage. Lost all of my Rhapsody downloads, however, and will have to add them back.
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smiyem said:
I'm having the same issues with the Samsung Blaze ~ when I go to Settings, Storage, USB Storage it shows total space 1.40 GB and available 127 MB. When I go to files, usbstorage, there is NOTHING in it and it shows "no files". I have 4 applications I've downloaded, no more. ALL of my pictures and music are on the external card. When I go to active applications, then Storage, it shows System storage 119MB of 1.12GB, USB storage 1.28GB used of 1.40GB, and SD card 4.33GB used of 7.39GB. I don't have games on it at all.
I'm not an Einstein, but I'm getting really tired of everyone telling me I'm obviously not smart enough to have a smart phone. I'm no dummy when it comes to tech.
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Its ur internal sd thats the problem u have to clean files out once in a while if u dont it will **** stuff up get astro or any file manager and go folder by folder and delete stuff and ur usb storage doesnt get used its just system internal and external thats all ur partitions in system settings it reads the part ur apps get put in when u put apps on sd as usb thats it but u cant look at them but just clean ur internal sd out clear caches and check lost.dir once in awhile too delete whatevers in there and u should be ok dont forget any videos u shoot in hd will be huge too those r in dcim... Thats why i switch my mounts and i keep my sdcards clean so i can have like 5 6 huge games and still have space but to each his own good luck tho
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My wife was complain8ng of this recently. I went through and saved all her pictures to her laptop. Cleared caches and moved apps to sd when I could but that did not help. Then I checked her download folder and found it full of videos from perez hilton .com. lol
This made the phone show that it was almost empty.
My question is why does usb storage show 1.40gb of total space with 9gb of space filled with misc.? Why does the blaze seem to handle its memory so much different than the other galaxy s phones?
Does rooting fix this strange memory setup?
Thanks guys.
(Update)
Took one photo to make sure they were being saved to the external sdcard (16gb) and now the phone says that storage is full again. When I check in settings it shows 1.20gb of pictures when there is only one photo (not sure how big but i know it is not 1gb) and it is not even stored on the phones memory? Instagram will also moy work because it says there is no storage to even take a photo.
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in one phrase VOLDSTAB / JB SWAP
if your runnings stock ICS and or ICS ROM search for VOLDSWAP.zip and or if your running JB ROMS or you have a phone that runs JB truly with out having to rom if you on ICS flash through CWM if you don't know what that is dont waste your time if you do by all means you know what must be DONE!!! lol if you dont then google the phrase CLOCKWORK MOD RECOVERY ( then your phone type ie Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4g ) if your using JB and ROOTED ( YES BOTH OF THESE TAKE ROOT in order to be accomplushed ) if your on JB go into /system/etc/vold.fstab open with either Script Manager and or prefered editor of text choice and take the ( 0 ) on internal SD line ( ie dev mount blah blah sdcard0 change that to a
( 1 ) and then on external SD ie blah blah sdcard1 change the ( 1 ) to a ( 0 ) and reboot on the ICS just flash the voldswap.zip on the xda forum ( you will find it in the general section of the samsung blaze under thread title Internal / External Memory and go to page 2 give thanks to the dev who did that then procedd to download and then flash through CWM no need to wipe format etc blah blah but i take no cred for mentioned / said items and i damn sure dont take liability for burnt phones busted screens and just plain stupidity and also google is your FRIEND in hence of rooting rom's etc etc have a wonderful day
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if your runnings stock ICS and or ICS ROM search for VOLDSWAP.zip and or if your running JB ROMS or you have a phone that runs JB truly with out having to rom if you on ICS flash through CWM if you don't know what that is dont waste your time if you do by all means you know what must be DONE!!! lol if you dont then google the phrase CLOCKWORK MOD RECOVERY ( then your phone type ie Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4g ) if your using JB and ROOTED ( YES BOTH OF THESE TAKE ROOT in order to be accomplushed ) if your on JB go into /system/etc/vold.fstab open with either Script Manager and or prefered editor of text choice and take the ( 0 ) on internal SD line ( ie dev mount blah blah sdcard0 change that to a
( 1 ) and then on external SD ie blah blah sdcard1 change the ( 1 ) to a ( 0 ) and reboot on the ICS just flash the voldswap.zip on the xda forum ( you will find it in the general section of the samsung blaze under thread title Internal / External Memory and go to page 2 give thanks to the dev who did that then procedd to download and then flash through CWM no need to wipe format etc blah blah but i take no cred for mentioned / said items and i damn sure dont take liability for burnt phones busted screens and just plain stupidity and also google is your FRIEND in hence of rooting rom's etc etc have a wonderful day
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For clarity's sake, what is this going to accomplish? I'm running cm10 and can usually manage to keep the blazes memory problems under control just by keeping everything in cloud storage, but if there's another option, I'd be interested in trying it out.
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Wow, so after translating what you said back to english I need root for that option and what it does is swsp the external sd for the internal by flashing a zip or editing the fstab file.
I will have to convince my wife of that one. She does not let me root her devices. She needs them to work 100% of the time for work and she saw what I went through with the s2 trying to get JB to run early on.
I will do some more research on this.
Is this something that only happens to some blazes or do all of them have storage issues? My wife was hoping a factory wipe might fix it.
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Wow, so after translating what you said back to english I need root for that option and what it does is swsp the external sd for the internal by flashing a zip or editing the fstab file.
I will have to convince my wife of that one. She does not let me root her devices. She needs them to work 100% of the time for work and she saw what I went through with the s2 trying to get JB to run early on.
I will do some more research on this.
Is this something that only happens to some blazes or do all of them have storage issues? My wife was hoping a factory wipe might fix it.
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to answer your ? on what it does the blaze stock comes with 4 gigs of memory 2 gigs used by system leaving about 1.12 for device mem and 1.40 for internal mem with the vold.fstab swap ( voldswap.zip ) or the number swap of JB ( ie INT SDCARD 0 change to 1 and EXT SDCARD 1 change to 0 what that does is for example instead of 1.40 gigs of internal space in my personal blaze i have 32 GIGS of space instead of crappy 1.4 works the same on JB ROMS but also if you choose to add files either connect USB into USB CONNECTION or POWER DOWN phone to be on the safe side power down the phone pull the sdcard from the micro sd slot and put into adapter on your PC ( i do this cause i transfer large files and on JB the MTP is a peice of **** and the USB CONNECTION sucks to it stops all of a sudden out of no were ) ( on ICS stock/custom that's not an issue ) but that's what the swap does hope this helps for clarity and you can pick up a 32 GIG San Disk off EBAY fpr 16.98 plus S/H at like 3 bucks a pop and it works cause i have that same card off of ebay
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to answer your ? on what it does the blaze stock comes with 4 gigs of memory 2 gigs used by system leaving about 1.12 for device mem and 1.40 for internal mem with the vold.fstab swap ( voldswap.zip ) or the number swap of JB ( ie INT SDCARD 0 change to 1 and EXT SDCARD 1 change to 0 what that does is for example instead of 1.40 gigs of internal space in my personal blaze i have 32 GIGS of space instead of crappy 1.4 works the same on JB ROMS but also if you choose to add files either connect USB into USB CONNECTION or POWER DOWN phone to be on the safe side power down the phone pull the sdcard from the micro sd slot and put into adapter on your PC ( i do this cause i transfer large files and on JB the MTP is a peice of **** and the USB CONNECTION sucks to it stops all of a sudden out of no were ) ( on ICS stock/custom that's not an issue ) but that's what the swap does hope this helps for clarity and you can pick up a 32 GIG San Disk off EBAY fpr 16.98 plus S/H at like 3 bucks a pop and it works cause i have that same card off of ebay
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That is awesome three hours of reading this that and the other thing all over the internet and it comes down to swapping two numbers in a file, sheash in an idiot.
The reason I wanted to do this is I have an app that downloads two to five GB of map files and the app just cried when I tried to install it on this phone.
Thank You.
Just an FYI, even though I am using a JBCamera app to store actual photos on my external 32gb uSD card, my internal 1.4gb SDcard was still getting full frequently. Discovered the Quickpic App, creates a large almost 1gb thumbnail file on the internal SDcard. There is an option to turn it off to make this go away in Quickpic.
Hey all,
Search around, and I have yet to find the answer. Sorry if this is a normal titanium thing, but this is the first time I use it, and, again, for the life of me I can't find something explaining this - not even TB's FAQ.
So I just used it since I had my S3 replaced under warranty. I backed all my apps to an SD card, and when I went to restore them I noticed that the bigger apps got placed on the SD card by default. I didn't want them there, so, no problem, I put the titanium backup folder contents on the device/emulated storage and took the SD card out. I then uninstalled/reinstalled these apps, but thing is, no matter how many times I do this, it says the contents of these apps are mostly on my SD card in the system's Application Manager.
Obviously, this cannot be the case since the SD card is no longer physically in the phone, but I'm very curious and it does bug me a tiny bit - the not knowing/understanding. According to titanium, however, it does say the apps are on the phone itself (it displays the phone icon for the app instead of the SD icon). But yeah, in the Application Manager list, apps like Plants vs Zombies 2, which used to be ~350MB on the App Manager list, now show up as only 25.15MB. When I click for the details (App info screen), I'll get something like:
Total.....................381MB
Application...........24.90MB
SD card app..........354MB
Data......................256KB
SD card data..........1.37MB
I am used to seeing something small in the "SD card data" part for all apps regardless though. Like ones I've installed straight from the Play Store. But never on the "SD cardapp" since I never care to have one in my phone. So, is this just some odd feature of restoring with Titanium? In other words, is this usual? I should mention, all my apps work fine though. Like not missing a single beat save that it just says they are somewhere they cannot physically be. Did I perhaps restore them in some unconventional way (I don't think I did; I just followed a great Youtube tutorial on how to use titanium)? Anyone else's apps display like this sans te SD card? Perhaps I'm worried about nothing, but I'd just like to understand. Thanks!
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Hey all,
Search around, and I have yet to find the answer. Sorry if this is a normal titanium thing, but this is the first time I use it, and, again, for the life of me I can't find something explaining this - not even TB's FAQ.
So I just used it since I had my S3 replaced under warranty. I backed all my apps to an SD card, and when I went to restore them I noticed that the bigger apps got placed on the SD card by default. I didn't want them there, so, no problem, I put the titanium backup folder contents on the device/emulated storage and took the SD card out. I then uninstalled/reinstalled these apps, but thing is, no matter how many times I do this, it says the contents of these apps are mostly on my SD card in the system's Application Manager.
Obviously, this cannot be the case since the SD card is no longer physically in the phone, but I'm very curious and it does bug me a tiny bit - the not knowing/understanding. According to titanium, however, it does say the apps are on the phone itself (it displays the phone icon for the app instead of the SD icon). But yeah, in the Application Manager list, apps like Plants vs Zombies 2, which used to be ~350MB on the App Manager list, now show up as only 25.15MB. When I click for the details (App info screen), I'll get something like:
Total.....................381MB
Application...........24.90MB
SD card app..........354MB
Data......................256KB
SD card data..........1.37MB
I am used to seeing something small in the "SD card data" part for all apps regardless though. Like ones I've installed straight from the Play Store. But never on the "SD cardapp" since I never care to have one in my phone. So, is this just some odd feature of restoring with Titanium? In other words, is this usual? I should mention, all my apps work fine though. Like not missing a single beat save that it just says they are somewhere they cannot physically be. Did I perhaps restore them in some unconventional way (I don't think I did; I just followed a great Youtube tutorial on how to use titanium)? Anyone else's apps display like this sans te SD card? Perhaps I'm worried about nothing, but I'd just like to understand. Thanks!
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that is odd, but if the apps are working fine then i dont see a problem. It might just be a bug with TB itself. Also TB does do some compression to the apps it backs up so that might be why that file you mentioned was so much smaller.
It's probably a quirk of the way Google changed the mount pointers to all storage in 4.3 and above. Now all locations are "emulated" in the Android OS. This doesn't always agree with the way individual apps handle storage. Google doesn't really acknowledge "external" SD cards because the hardware doesn't exist on Google devices such as the Nexus 5, 7 ,10 etc.
Hey Guys -
I've got a quick question, please... I recently added a 64gb MicroSD to my tablet, formatted it, and was able to move some apps to it and free up space. The problem is, that I can only move some apps to the SD card. Others have the buttons "Move to Tablet" and "Move to SD Card" bot greyed out.
I know that some developers can set the game to where it can or cannot be moved, but I researched to find out that some of the games which were grayed out support being moved which I cannot. Here are some examples:
- GTA: Vice City
- GTA: San Andreas
- Demon's Score
- ARC: Redux
I thought the issue may be due to KitKat "security" issues with the SD, but it allowed me to move some games and I thought Nvidia bypassed that issue anyways for the Shield in OEM firmware. Since I'm rooted, I went ahead and installed "HandleExternalStorage" via Xposed Installer which supposedly resolves the KitKat issue. After a reboot, though, I still cannot move some apps like the ones listed above.
The only other option I've seen is to use adb to set the system's default install location. Mine's currently set to "0" which is auto, but can easily be change to "1" which would install to SD. This would be last resort since I can see issues arising from this, but it's still an option.
Any thoughts on why this is happening and/or other methods to resolve it?
Thanks!
If you are rooted (which can be done without unlocking the bootloader currently), you can use Foldermount. I use it for a number of apps that cannot be moved the standard way. It is on the Play store. The only downside is if you want to link more than 3 things you'll have to get the Pro license (which is worth it in my opinion).
trowgundam said:
If you are rooted (which can be done without unlocking the bootloader currently), you can use Foldermount. I use it for a number of apps that cannot be moved the standard way. It is on the Play store. The only downside is if you want to link more than 3 things you'll have to get the Pro license (which is worth it in my opinion).
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Yes, I'm rooted. I downloaded the app and am trying it out now. So basically, all it does is create a symlink or directory junction? I tried it out with one app which had an 800mb data folder and 1.2gb obb folder in which I had it auto create folders and move the data for each. Upon running it, it tried to extract the data and failed. Think it was either because I'd had issue with that app already plus probably shouldn't have moved bot folders.
I just tried it a second time with ARC Redux. I moved the obb folder which was 600mb. The data folder was empty. After it moved (checked progress via notification window), I launched it. Upon launch, it tried to download the app's data file again.
What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
The most common issue people run into with it is, while they setup the link they don't enable it. After the items is done moving things click on the little push pin icon. When that icon is green the symlink (at least I'm pretty sure that is what it is using) will be enabled/created or whatever it does. It is probably safe to enable the Symlink before it is done copying, but I normally wait just to make sure.
bzowk said:
Yes, I'm rooted. I downloaded the app and am trying it out now. So basically, all it does is create a symlink or directory junction? I tried it out with one app which had an 800mb data folder and 1.2gb obb folder in which I had it auto create folders and move the data for each. Upon running it, it tried to extract the data and failed. Think it was either because I'd had issue with that app already plus probably shouldn't have moved bot folders.
I just tried it a second time with ARC Redux. I moved the obb folder which was 600mb. The data folder was empty. After it moved (checked progress via notification window), I launched it. Upon launch, it tried to download the app's data file again.
What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
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Hi did you get this to work??
john09121 said:
Hi did you get this to work??
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I can confirm that FolderMount works! I was even able to do it with Trine 2! Tested with Portal and Half-Life 2 and only noticed slightly longer load times.
using FolderMount
Virus.Shell said:
I can confirm that FolderMount works! I was even able to do it with Trine 2! Tested with Portal and Half-Life 2 and only noticed slightly longer load times.
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Thanks for your last reply, please can you tell me if there an idiots guide to using FolderMount and also where look on the tablet for the installed apps and games, it just that I am new to the android system having left the iPad
You can download and install it directly from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en=bv.74115972,d.bGQ
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Thanks for your last reply, please can you tell me if there an idiots guide to using FolderMount and also where look on the tablet for the installed apps and games, it just that I am new to the android system having left the iPad
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It depends on what you mean by "idiots guide". lol
Basically, your games can be saved in a few different locations on your device. But for the sake of brevity, I'll try my best!
∙The easiest way is to open the app then open the left side menu (either by swiping from the left of your screen or tapping in the top left corner.
∙Choose "Apps Analyzer" and let it do it's thing.
∙When it's done you should be presented with a list of your apps, sorted from largest to smallest (or already moved)
∙Click the app you want to move and you should see a screen showing you what data is stored where.
∙Then click 'Create pair' on the right side (Either for obb or data. I usually just pick the largest of the two and move that. Tho you can also move both)
∙Then you should be asked if you want to allow the FM to do things automatically. (If you don't know what you're doing just click yes)
∙Adjust the name if needed
∙Click the check-mark in the top right and wait
∙Assuming everything went well, then the last thing you'll need to do is tap the thumbtack on the 'List of pairs' screen to activate it
∙Now you should be good to go!
I realise this is a couple of weeks old by now but I just got my Shield Tab a couple of days ago, have installed a few games and now the storage is nearly full - there's a few >1GB games which I can't move using the built in a2sd.
So I rooted it and installed FolderMount, but a lot of things just show up as 0B in the apps analyser and I don't have the option to move them.
Any idea what's going on here?
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I realise this is a couple of weeks old by now but I just got my Shield Tab a couple of days ago, have installed a few games and now the storage is nearly full - there's a few >1GB games which I can't move using the built in a2sd.
So I rooted it and installed FolderMount, but a lot of things just show up as 0B in the apps analyser and I don't have the option to move them.
Any idea what's going on here?
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Well after native Apps2SD, Link2SD is the way to go. Dunno if that helps =P. I'd use Foldermount or the equivalent after all else.
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Well after native Apps2SD, Link2SD is the way to go. Dunno if that helps =P. I'd use Foldermount or the equivalent after all else.
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Installed Link2SD. Seems to pick up the internal storage mounted as an SD card, and doesn't pick up the actual SD card. It says "You can link the app in order to move its files to your SD card", but I can't seem to find anywhere to do that.
Update: some apps for which the option to move to SD is disabled normally (I'm looking at you, GTA:VC) can be moved if I use an adb shell to set the install location to the SD card - but it also showed up in FolderMount.
Some games, however (I'm looking at you, Humble Bundle versions of Horn, Anomaly 2 and The Cave, at least) still can't be moved (I try, it works for a while and then says "couldn't move app", and they show up in FolderMount as 0B (without the option for it to link anything), and I can't seem to find where they're stored in the file system to move and symlink them manually.
So can anyone help me move these things? I was hoping not to have half of my available storage taken up by three games (which is why I got a nice big SD card when I bought this). Thanks
Linking
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Installed Link2SD. Seems to pick up the internal storage mounted as an SD card, and doesn't pick up the actual SD card. It says "You can link the app in order to move its files to your SD card", but I can't seem to find anywhere to do that.
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There should be a linking option. You have to first repartition your card and add a second partition to do this, preferrably EXT4. There are tons of great utilities out there, but I usually use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows. Put your microSD in your computer's card reader, and in MiniTool, all you gotta do is make the existing partition smaller and make a new EXT4 partition in the free space. I'd say maybe 5GB or so would be enough, but it depends on you and what you link.
Linking is different from Apps2SD. You can actually do both to save more space.
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There should be a linking option. You have to first repartition your card and add a second partition to do this, preferrably EXT4. There are tons of great utilities out there, but I usually use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows. Put your microSD in your computer's card reader, and in MiniTool, all you gotta do is make the existing partition smaller and make a new EXT4 partition in the free space. I'd say maybe 5GB or so would be enough, but it depends on you and what you link.
Linking is different from Apps2SD. You can actually do both to save more space.
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Thanks! Turns out things work when I follow instructions. I used a GParted live USB and created an ext4 partition on my SD card, 16gb (it's a 64gb card, so I've got plenty of space... I can resize it later if need be).
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Thanks! Turns out things work when I follow instructions. I used a GParted live USB and created an ext4 partition on my SD card, 16gb (it's a 64gb card, so I've got plenty of space... I can resize it later if need be).
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Yup Gparted is a great tool. Awesome!
Hi,
I have a problem with my icons, everytime I reboot, or turn off and start again my phone a lot of my icons are amess and they are "shining" like a newly installed app.
The problem happened when I was in B381.
I just update to B389, with factory reset, and the problem still there.
Really annoying.
Am I alone with this bug?
Thanks
A screenshot pls?! Or a photo is better
To understand more, so I can help
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Hi,
I have a problem with my icons, everytime I reboot, or turn off and start again my phone a lot of my icons are amess and they are "shining" like a newly installed app.
The problem happened when I was in B381.
I just update to B389, with factory reset, and the problem still there.
Really annoying.
Am I alone with this bug?
Thanks
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Plz try to change the theme and check if the problem is resolved
I just tried...
I was using, default theme, without any modification : light.
I downloaded and installed another one : business style
Rearranged some icons back in place I would like them to stay...
Reboot
Same result.. the icons I moved goes away, and blink like newly installed apps...
fredfred41 said:
I just tried...
I was using, default theme, without any modification : light.
I downloaded and installed another one : business style
Rearranged some icons back in place I would like them to stay...
Reboot
Same result.. the icons I moved goes away, and blink like newly installed apps...
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any pic before and after
Yes, I just made two videos, I had to paste links, I couldn't embed them ( if someone could help me on this too... :silly: ) :
- One with partially reorganised icons (only on the first page) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq-4uJTvlY0
- Second, after the normal restart. At the beginning, just after the restart, some icons are missing, then at 0:27 magically disappeared icons reappear, not where they should be, and blink like newly installed apps :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm8Cppe2h5k
Maybe one hint, I Have a 64go SD card installed as adopted storage, is it possible that missing apps at startup could be the apps installed on the sd card? Because the sd card is "mounted" after the internal memory, or because the sd card is too slow, that could cause the problem.
If it so, How could I know where are really installed my apps, and is there a way to change it?
thanks
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Yes, I just made two videos :
- One with partially reorganised icons (only on the first page) :
- Second, after the normal restart. At the beginning, just after the restart, some icons are missing, then at 0:27 magically disappeared icons reappear, not where they should be, and blink like newly installed apps :
Maybe one hint, I Have a 64go SD card installed as adopted storage, is it possible that missing apps at startup could be the apps installed on the sd card? Because the sd card is "mounted" after the internal memory, or because the sd card is too slow, that could cause the problem.
If it so, How could I know where are really installed my apps, and is there a way to change it?
thanks
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I too think that sd card makes this problem.
fredfred41 said:
Yes, I just made two videos, I had to paste links, I couldn't embed them ( if someone could help me on this too... :silly: ) :
- One with partially reorganised icons (only on the first page) :
- Second, after the normal restart. At the beginning, just after the restart, some icons are missing, then at 0:27 magically disappeared icons reappear, not where they should be, and blink like newly installed apps :
Maybe one hint, I Have a 64go SD card installed as adopted storage, is it possible that missing apps at startup could be the apps installed on the sd card? Because the sd card is "mounted" after the internal memory, or because the sd card is too slow, that could cause the problem.
If it so, How could I know where are really installed my apps, and is there a way to change it?
thanks
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Remove the SD card and try, tell us the results
PalakMi said:
Remove the SD card and try, tell us the results
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I will try, but first I have to figure out how to transfert evrything back to my internal memory, and eject my sd, without loosing anything...
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I will try, but first I have to figure out how to transfert evrything back to my internal memory, and eject my sd, without loosing anything...
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That's even better
I will try different test with my sd card, but not so sure it is really the cause, look at this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSkYvI3mefs
I rebooted without mooving any icons this time, and I noticed that the 3rd icon, first line, first page, "calculatrice plus", and the amazon one on second page, also mooved this time, and wasn't after the previous reboot.... they are on screen right after reboot, and don't blink like the other apps that appear a little bite after reboot... really strange...
That's weird, I don't know what to say.
I can't assist you any further
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I will try different test with my sd card, but not so sure it is really the cause, look at this video:
I rebooted without mooving any icons this time, and I noticed that the 3rd icon, first line, first page, "calculatrice plus", and the amazon one on second page, also mooved this time, and wasn't after the previous reboot.... they are on screen right after reboot, and don't blink like the other apps that appear a little bite after reboot... really strange...
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Strange phone .
Ok, some news, a good and a bad one...
I installed appmgr III, so I can see where my apps are really installed. And everyone bugging on reboot , was installed on the SD card... I moved them to internal, and after many reboots and icons rearrangements, I concluded that was the problem. That's the good news.
The bad news is that I, now, have to move all my apps to internal, so there is not really any advantage using my SD card as adopted storage any more...
Do you think a faster, big brand one, should solve the problem?
Mine is supposed to be a adata 64go class 10, do you know an app to really test it, on my phone?
fredfred41 said:
Ok, some news, a good and a bad one...
I installed appmgr III, so I can see where my apps are really installed. And everyone bugging on reboot , was installed on the SD card... I moved them to internal, and after many reboots and icons rearrangements, I concluded that was the problem. That's the good news.
The bad news is that I, now, have to move all my apps to internal, so there is not really any advantage using my SD card as adopted storage any more...
Do you think a faster, big brand one, should solve the problem?
Mine is supposed to be a adata 64go class 10, do you know an app to really test it, on my phone?
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How can you move apps to sd? Is rooted??
fredfred41 said:
Ok, some news, a good and a bad one...
I installed appmgr III, so I can see where my apps are really installed. And everyone bugging on reboot , was installed on the SD card... I moved them to internal, and after many reboots and icons rearrangements, I concluded that was the problem. That's the good news.
The bad news is that I, now, have to move all my apps to internal, so there is not really any advantage using my SD card as adopted storage any more...
Do you think a faster, big brand one, should solve the problem?
Mine is supposed to be a adata 64go class 10, do you know an app to really test it, on my phone?
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I don't know if a better SD card will do the trick.
Anyway, good to hear that you solved it
Yes but how he can move the apps to sd ?
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How can you move apps to sd? Is rooted??
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setting up the sd card as adopted, allow system to consider the sd card and internal memory, as a unique big internal memory, so apps can be installed directly by the system anywhere.
I don't think that you need to be rooted for that, but yes I am.
You can still manually move apps between internal and sd with appmngr III (available on the play store), avoiding moving apps with widgets (widgets wont work), or apps that need speedy memory like games that could be slowed. and dont remove the sd card or you will loose everything...
Depending of your system version you could adopt an sd card via menu option, or connecting to a pc, via adb command line, some infos here :
https://www.androidcentral.com/adoptable-storage
https://www.howtogeek.com/242937/how-to-set-up-a-new-sd-card-in-android-for-extra-storage/
https://stackoverflow.com/questions...sd-card-into-internal-storage-via-adb-command
https://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/make-sd-card-semi-adopted-t3399510