Hey Guys -
I've got a quick question, please... I recently added a 64gb MicroSD to my tablet, formatted it, and was able to move some apps to it and free up space. The problem is, that I can only move some apps to the SD card. Others have the buttons "Move to Tablet" and "Move to SD Card" bot greyed out.
I know that some developers can set the game to where it can or cannot be moved, but I researched to find out that some of the games which were grayed out support being moved which I cannot. Here are some examples:
- GTA: Vice City
- GTA: San Andreas
- Demon's Score
- ARC: Redux
I thought the issue may be due to KitKat "security" issues with the SD, but it allowed me to move some games and I thought Nvidia bypassed that issue anyways for the Shield in OEM firmware. Since I'm rooted, I went ahead and installed "HandleExternalStorage" via Xposed Installer which supposedly resolves the KitKat issue. After a reboot, though, I still cannot move some apps like the ones listed above.
The only other option I've seen is to use adb to set the system's default install location. Mine's currently set to "0" which is auto, but can easily be change to "1" which would install to SD. This would be last resort since I can see issues arising from this, but it's still an option.
Any thoughts on why this is happening and/or other methods to resolve it?
Thanks!
If you are rooted (which can be done without unlocking the bootloader currently), you can use Foldermount. I use it for a number of apps that cannot be moved the standard way. It is on the Play store. The only downside is if you want to link more than 3 things you'll have to get the Pro license (which is worth it in my opinion).
trowgundam said:
If you are rooted (which can be done without unlocking the bootloader currently), you can use Foldermount. I use it for a number of apps that cannot be moved the standard way. It is on the Play store. The only downside is if you want to link more than 3 things you'll have to get the Pro license (which is worth it in my opinion).
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Yes, I'm rooted. I downloaded the app and am trying it out now. So basically, all it does is create a symlink or directory junction? I tried it out with one app which had an 800mb data folder and 1.2gb obb folder in which I had it auto create folders and move the data for each. Upon running it, it tried to extract the data and failed. Think it was either because I'd had issue with that app already plus probably shouldn't have moved bot folders.
I just tried it a second time with ARC Redux. I moved the obb folder which was 600mb. The data folder was empty. After it moved (checked progress via notification window), I launched it. Upon launch, it tried to download the app's data file again.
What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
The most common issue people run into with it is, while they setup the link they don't enable it. After the items is done moving things click on the little push pin icon. When that icon is green the symlink (at least I'm pretty sure that is what it is using) will be enabled/created or whatever it does. It is probably safe to enable the Symlink before it is done copying, but I normally wait just to make sure.
bzowk said:
Yes, I'm rooted. I downloaded the app and am trying it out now. So basically, all it does is create a symlink or directory junction? I tried it out with one app which had an 800mb data folder and 1.2gb obb folder in which I had it auto create folders and move the data for each. Upon running it, it tried to extract the data and failed. Think it was either because I'd had issue with that app already plus probably shouldn't have moved bot folders.
I just tried it a second time with ARC Redux. I moved the obb folder which was 600mb. The data folder was empty. After it moved (checked progress via notification window), I launched it. Upon launch, it tried to download the app's data file again.
What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
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Hi did you get this to work??
john09121 said:
Hi did you get this to work??
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I can confirm that FolderMount works! I was even able to do it with Trine 2! Tested with Portal and Half-Life 2 and only noticed slightly longer load times.
using FolderMount
Virus.Shell said:
I can confirm that FolderMount works! I was even able to do it with Trine 2! Tested with Portal and Half-Life 2 and only noticed slightly longer load times.
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Thanks for your last reply, please can you tell me if there an idiots guide to using FolderMount and also where look on the tablet for the installed apps and games, it just that I am new to the android system having left the iPad
You can download and install it directly from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en=bv.74115972,d.bGQ
john09121 said:
Thanks for your last reply, please can you tell me if there an idiots guide to using FolderMount and also where look on the tablet for the installed apps and games, it just that I am new to the android system having left the iPad
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It depends on what you mean by "idiots guide". lol
Basically, your games can be saved in a few different locations on your device. But for the sake of brevity, I'll try my best!
∙The easiest way is to open the app then open the left side menu (either by swiping from the left of your screen or tapping in the top left corner.
∙Choose "Apps Analyzer" and let it do it's thing.
∙When it's done you should be presented with a list of your apps, sorted from largest to smallest (or already moved)
∙Click the app you want to move and you should see a screen showing you what data is stored where.
∙Then click 'Create pair' on the right side (Either for obb or data. I usually just pick the largest of the two and move that. Tho you can also move both)
∙Then you should be asked if you want to allow the FM to do things automatically. (If you don't know what you're doing just click yes)
∙Adjust the name if needed
∙Click the check-mark in the top right and wait
∙Assuming everything went well, then the last thing you'll need to do is tap the thumbtack on the 'List of pairs' screen to activate it
∙Now you should be good to go!
I realise this is a couple of weeks old by now but I just got my Shield Tab a couple of days ago, have installed a few games and now the storage is nearly full - there's a few >1GB games which I can't move using the built in a2sd.
So I rooted it and installed FolderMount, but a lot of things just show up as 0B in the apps analyser and I don't have the option to move them.
Any idea what's going on here?
Slashee the Cow said:
I realise this is a couple of weeks old by now but I just got my Shield Tab a couple of days ago, have installed a few games and now the storage is nearly full - there's a few >1GB games which I can't move using the built in a2sd.
So I rooted it and installed FolderMount, but a lot of things just show up as 0B in the apps analyser and I don't have the option to move them.
Any idea what's going on here?
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Well after native Apps2SD, Link2SD is the way to go. Dunno if that helps =P. I'd use Foldermount or the equivalent after all else.
aenews said:
Well after native Apps2SD, Link2SD is the way to go. Dunno if that helps =P. I'd use Foldermount or the equivalent after all else.
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Installed Link2SD. Seems to pick up the internal storage mounted as an SD card, and doesn't pick up the actual SD card. It says "You can link the app in order to move its files to your SD card", but I can't seem to find anywhere to do that.
Update: some apps for which the option to move to SD is disabled normally (I'm looking at you, GTA:VC) can be moved if I use an adb shell to set the install location to the SD card - but it also showed up in FolderMount.
Some games, however (I'm looking at you, Humble Bundle versions of Horn, Anomaly 2 and The Cave, at least) still can't be moved (I try, it works for a while and then says "couldn't move app", and they show up in FolderMount as 0B (without the option for it to link anything), and I can't seem to find where they're stored in the file system to move and symlink them manually.
So can anyone help me move these things? I was hoping not to have half of my available storage taken up by three games (which is why I got a nice big SD card when I bought this). Thanks
Linking
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Installed Link2SD. Seems to pick up the internal storage mounted as an SD card, and doesn't pick up the actual SD card. It says "You can link the app in order to move its files to your SD card", but I can't seem to find anywhere to do that.
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There should be a linking option. You have to first repartition your card and add a second partition to do this, preferrably EXT4. There are tons of great utilities out there, but I usually use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows. Put your microSD in your computer's card reader, and in MiniTool, all you gotta do is make the existing partition smaller and make a new EXT4 partition in the free space. I'd say maybe 5GB or so would be enough, but it depends on you and what you link.
Linking is different from Apps2SD. You can actually do both to save more space.
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There should be a linking option. You have to first repartition your card and add a second partition to do this, preferrably EXT4. There are tons of great utilities out there, but I usually use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows. Put your microSD in your computer's card reader, and in MiniTool, all you gotta do is make the existing partition smaller and make a new EXT4 partition in the free space. I'd say maybe 5GB or so would be enough, but it depends on you and what you link.
Linking is different from Apps2SD. You can actually do both to save more space.
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Thanks! Turns out things work when I follow instructions. I used a GParted live USB and created an ext4 partition on my SD card, 16gb (it's a 64gb card, so I've got plenty of space... I can resize it later if need be).
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Thanks! Turns out things work when I follow instructions. I used a GParted live USB and created an ext4 partition on my SD card, 16gb (it's a 64gb card, so I've got plenty of space... I can resize it later if need be).
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Yup Gparted is a great tool. Awesome!
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I think I read about this here a while ago, can not find it anymore.
After update to firmware 2.2 apps can be stores on sd-card.
BUT icons disappers from desktop when phone is restarted.
This only if its app is on sd-card.
Is there a fix for this, very annoying.
Sammi3 said:
I think I read about this here a while ago, can not find it anymore.
After update to firmware 2.2 apps can be stores on sd-card.
BUT icons disappers from desktop when phone is restarted.
This only if its app is on sd-card.
Is there a fix for this, very annoying.
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SD Card scanning takes time when you restart your phone, so for all the apps that you have installed in your SD Card, it will take time to load. Also widgets wont load if installed on SD Card. Please check if your icons are not coming at all or they are coming with a delay?
Thanks for your answer.
I upgraded to Froyo XXJPS some 4 months ago, ever since its been like this.
I have done nothing else to the phone.
Indeed it takes awhile to scan sd-card, but they do not load back on desktop even if I repositioned them after last restart.
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Thanks for your answer.
I upgraded to Froyo XXJPS some 4 months ago, ever since its been like this.
I have done nothing else to the phone.
Indeed it takes awhile to scan sd-card, but they do not load back on desktop even if I repositioned them after last restart.
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Check your notification bar if the sd card is being scanned or not and make sure widgets are on the phones memory. Also i would recommend rooting your phone, partitioning the sd card and using link2sd app from the android market. It moves your apps to the partition of your sd card and your phone thinks its your internal memory so it won't do a media scan on it meaning your apps load a lot faster. If you want to partition your sd card don't hesitate to message me for more info
It is not only widgets that is left out, none of the icons for the applications is loaded back. If the app is stored on sd-card that is.
Icons for apps stored on phones internal memory load fine.
I see this tiny sd-card-symbol in the notificatin bar for quite a while when reebooting. So it must be media scanned.
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It is not only widgets that is left out, none of the icons for the applications is loaded back. If the app is stored on sd-card that is.
Icons for apps stored on phones internal memory load fine.
I see this tiny sd-card-symbol in the notificatin bar for quite a while when reebooting. So it must be media scanned.
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Yes, it's a media scan. Just move them to internal memory and it will be fine.
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something like this happened to me a while back, the apps were not in the app drawer and also the icons changed to default white and green couldnt launch from home screen. I tried everything short off formatting memory card. I ended up reinstalling all the apps on the memory card ( wont pick up addition space since its already stored on your sd) and now they have been workinf fine since then, i can reboot or install to sd without a problem.
verdict - maybe sent a corrupted apk to sd.
as far as i know (from the time when i was on stock froyo), when you use the "original" way to move your apps to the sd card (settings/applications/manage applications, select app, press move to SD card) the icons placed on your desktop will be removed on a reboot. i dont think its a real "error" on your side, its just how its programmed in stock froyo.
I guess I was waiting for comment like yours, there is a 'bug' in froyo.
Do I have any other options than to root?
Are there updates to be found on froyo.
How did you root?
Name some of the biggest benefits in a rooted phone.
im not saying its a bug in android or in the android version we have on our phone. i dont know if other phones running android have the same "problem" with this.
if you want root do a quick search on the G3 section for it. its pretty good explained in a thread.
running a script like apps2sd requires you to partition your sd card, the best thing of it is that after its setup it needs no attention anymore, all the apps you install will be moved to the second partition untill it full. so basicly your phone is tricked into thinking that your internal mem is way larger then it should be .
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I guess I was waiting for comment like yours, there is a 'bug' in froyo.
Do I have any other options than to root?
Are there updates to be found on froyo.
How did you root?
Name some of the biggest benefits in a rooted phone.
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The first option is to move your apps to internal memory and see if they all fit in the internal memory or not. I think rooting is an easy way to sort out your problem is the internal memory is not enough for your apps.
The latest update to froyo is XXJPU and it's blazing fast! Just update to that and root your phone using this program. All the info is on that thread but all you really need to do is go to settings > applications > development > make sure USB debugging is ticked. Then connect your phone to your computer using USB cable, open the program as administrator and click root. Follow the commands (really easy) and then after everything is done just manually reboot your phone.
Just rooting your phone doesn't really do anything dangerous etc. All it does is allows you to edit the /system of your phone as this is restricted with androids. After rooting your phone you will be able to expand your internal memory. This is done by partitioning your sd card and using an app called link2sd or a script called app2sd. The app is easier.
Hope this helps and added some useful links in there so be sure to check them out.
Accordin to KIES I allready have the latest uppdate, which I do not seems to have. Where do I find XXJPU.
My note is only the 16gb version and im running out of space . How can i transfer my apps to the sd card, if i go to settings apps , there is no option to trasfer to the sd card ?
Lol suppose to be running out internal storage and not disc space.
Root and use titanium backup, I believe that will work.
Or get rid of apps you really don't need...
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Games will fill up space fast..nova3 2gb by itself
mywingtophone said:
My note is only the 16gb version and im running out of space . How can i transfer my apps to the sd card, if i go to settings apps , there is no option to trasfer to the sd card ?
Lol suppose to be running out internal storage and not disc space.
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Return it and get a 32 gb version. Dont be cheap.
Also transfer all your non app data files to your sdcard. Music, movies, backups, photos all can live on sdcard.
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mywingtophone said:
My note is only the 16gb version and im running out of space . How can i transfer my apps to the sd card, if i go to settings apps , there is no option to trasfer to the sd card ?
Lol suppose to be running out internal storage and not disc space.
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Use the apps:
App 2 SD
GL to SD
The first one moves apps that can be stored on your sd to be moved. The second one takes the massive downloads needed by the gigantic games and puts those downloads on your external sd instead of using up your system memory. Those apps saved me several gigs of space!
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What's the point of deciding on the 16GB then complaining about running out of space?
mywingtophone said:
My note is only the 16gb version and im running out of space . How can i transfer my apps to the sd card, if i go to settings apps , there is no option to trasfer to the sd card ?
Lol suppose to be running out internal storage and not disc space.
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use Root Explorer, works well
Open Settings-->Applications-->Choose All tab--> Select any large application --> Move to SD Card
But you have to do one by one though...
use this tool DirectoryBind. move all ur unmovable games data to ur sd card. if will take some time to learn how to use but once u learn it u will find it easy and love this tool!
link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
mi7chy said:
What's the point of deciding on the 16GB then complaining about running out of space?
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I do find it a mystery why just for a short term fix owners are purchasing the 16GB model when shortly after the same will then be complaining of not enough space.
Percentage wise apps are getting bigger quicker than the hardware is increasing.
It's the sole reason why I never went for the Nexus 7.
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Open Settings-->Applications-->Choose All tab--> Select any large application --> Move to SD Card
But you have to do one by one though...
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That doesn't work with ICS...
If you go into apps then open my files i have found that you can point/hold and drag from internal sd to extsd.
I am also looking for a way to change the designation of installed apps and where items are automatically saved to.
I havent attempted to root yet.
Hope this helps
confus-ed said:
If you go into apps then open my files i have found that you can point/hold and drag from internal sd to extsd.
I am also looking for a way to change the designation of installed apps and where items are automatically saved to.
I havent attempted to root yet.
Hope this helps
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Could you be a little more specific? When you say go into apps what do you mean? Also how do you open my files?
Beards said:
I do find it a mystery why just for a short term fix owners are purchasing the 16GB model when shortly after the same will then be complaining of not enough space.
Percentage wise apps are getting bigger quicker than the hardware is increasing.
It's the sole reason why I never went for the Nexus 7.
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Because the 32gb version isn't available here in Oz yet... If they released the 32gb version with the 16gb version they would have no or minimal sale of the 16gb version. REALLY bites...:crying:
donec said:
Could you be a little more specific? When you say go into apps what do you mean? Also how do you open my files?
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Located at the top right of the screen is an icon that resembles a rubix cube, touch that and it will take you to the applications part of the Note. Different than the home screens.
Located in the apps pages is a folder labled my files, touch that and it will open in a file tree manner. At this point you can touch and drag into the extsd folder.
You can also connet to your puter and launch kies and check the box to make the extsd card the default save.
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Located at the top right of the screen is an icon that resembles a rubix cube, touch that and it will take you to the applications part of the Note. Different than the home screens.
Located in the apps pages is a folder labled my files, touch that and it will open in a file tree manner. At this point you can touch and drag into the extsd folder.
You can also connet to your puter and launch kies and check the box to make the extsd card the default save.
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Thanks! I was doing that with pictures and music, never occurred to try apps, i thought ics didn't allow it. There were some apps i couldn't move but did move some, seems too easy but it worked
Using Kies to copy data files (not the apps) to the Note will also make them smaller and save space. I remember copying some using the windows browser and they were converted (made smaller) IF you copy first to the Note then move them to the Extsd. There may be even more ways to save space with transferring. Photos for example that don't need to be 2-5 mb each could be shrunk with a photo editor on your desktop, then transferred to the Note.
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Thanks! I was doing that with pictures and music, never occurred to try apps, i thought ics didn't allow it. There were some apps i couldn't move but did move some, seems too easy but it worked
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No problem, if you discover anything that allows you to use the extsd as more of a partition rather than storage only keep us posted.:good:
Edit: I read in the note forums that someone had written a kernel to swap the priority of the storage, making the extsd64gb act as the internal storage and vice versa. I dont have the link for it
I tried updating an app last night on my tablet, actual app is Hill Climb.
In the play store I was getting insufficient space available when I tried to update it. I checked my storage and had almost 1.5GB availble. What's going on? No way is the update of that size..
Also I am running AOKB milestone 1 rom. I am also about to order myself a 32GB SD card.
But can someone tell me what's up with this insufficient space error I get? I tried rebooting and it didn't seem to help.
DHeffernan said:
I tried updating an app last night on my tablet, actual app is Hill Climb.
In the play store I was getting insufficient space available when I tried to update it. I checked my storage and had almost 1.5GB availble. What's going on? No way is the update of that size..
Also I am running AOKB milestone 1 rom. I am also about to order myself a 32GB SD card.
But can someone tell me what's up with this insufficient space error I get? I tried rebooting and it didn't seem to help.
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I've had that happen a couple of times with other apps. I think it's the app and not the tablet but I have no way to prove it. I don't remember the app I had that problem with but I also had plenty of space when it happened. I just tried installing Hill Climb and it installed without a hitch. FWIW, I've googled the problem and others have had the same problem.
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I've had that happen a couple of times with other apps. I think it's the app and not the tablet but I have no way to prove it. I don't remember the app I had that problem with but I also had plenty of space when it happened. I just tried installing Hill Climb and it installed without a hitch. FWIW, I've googled the problem and others have had the same problem.
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Thanks! Well from what I saw was is that there is apparently some sort of 'partition' for APPS? Which is not related to your overall storage, so it could depleet itself pretty quick?
I just don't know how exactly one increases this APP partition or what can be done about it? Basically the 1GB I see is meant for music/photos/videos etc.. APP installs go on a different partition all together.
Any idea about this?
I had this issue the other day, I rebooted the tab and it went away.
Turns out there is an app called APP2SD that I guess takes care of this.. going to have to look into this and see what it does.
DHeffernan said:
Turns out there is an app called APP2SD that I guess takes care of this.. going to have to look into this and see what it does.
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I couldn't get it to work on my tab. My Droid X & Droid Razor Maxx both have the option to move apps to the SD card under app settings. I don't know why the Tab doesn't.
Maybe because the card is actually shown as extsdcard and the internal memory is shown as sdcard.
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Maybe because the card is actually shown as extsdcard and the internal memory is shown as sdcard.
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What do you mean? I don't even have a SD card currently installed in the device..
In a file manager if you look under mnt in the root directory you'll see an sdcard, that's the internal memory. An SD card will show up as ExtSdCard
I think the Galaxy Tab memory structure is a unified "internal memory" area which is shared by both app installations and user data. There are no separate "app" and "user data" partitions, though there is of course a separate "system" partition.
Since App2SD works by moving files from the app partition to the data partition it has no relevant function on the Galaxy Tab.
I have no idea what causes the insufficient memory errors though. This is a common problem and the cause of much frustration for many users.
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I think the Galaxy Tab memory structure is a unified "internal memory" area which is shared by both app installations and user data. There are no separate "app" and "user data" partitions, though there is of course a separate "system" partition.
Since App2SD works by moving files from the app partition to the data partition it has no relevant function on the Galaxy Tab.
I have no idea what causes the insufficient memory errors though. This is a common problem and the cause of much frustration for many users.
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Definitely NOT "unified" there is a 2.8GB partition for installing the APP apk's into then there is the internal storage of 4.59 GB (which is most likely where the OP has the 1.5 GB free).
OP- go into your application manager under settings and look at the bottom for Device Memory, it should be x.x GB of 2.8 GB (on the 8 GB models) this is most likely the area that is low on storage, as I have added less the 100 MB of apps and I have 1.8 GB used of the 2.8 GB so I imagine if you install games and stuff it would fill up real quick.
I believe there is a thread about moving apps to the "SD card" (remember in android you have 2 "sdcards" first is labeled sdcard and is actually the internal storage and second is labeled extsdcard and is your removable microsd card if you use one).
Related threads you should read on this subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679037
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786014
Mr Anderson said:
I think the Galaxy Tab memory structure is a unified "internal memory" area which is shared by both app installations and user data. There are no separate "app" and "user data" partitions, though there is of course a separate "system" partition.
Since App2SD works by moving files from the app partition to the data partition it has no relevant function on the Galaxy Tab.
I have no idea what causes the insufficient memory errors though. This is a common problem and the cause of much frustration for many users.
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Oh really? Well thanks for that info.. So that APP2SD app is for other types of devices?
At this point I can't re-download that Hill Climb game at all.. I've tried rebooting the device a few times now. Any other options left?
insufficient storage happened to me few times - how i fixed it: clear data and cache of Google Play Store and Google Services Framework
rizzeh said:
insufficient storage happened to me few times - how i fixed it: clear data and cache of Google Play Store and Google Services Framework
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How exactly do you do that?
Settings -> Apps -> scroll down till you find Google Play and Services Framework, tap on each and press clear data and cache
Okay so i had the exact same problem with the exact same game .. I had Lucky Patcher installed so i opened it and it apparently did something (sorry i m a noob at this).. it said removed some ODEX files or sumthing.. and i went to google play again and it updated just fine .. you could give it a try
Jok3r10 said:
Okay so i had the exact same problem with the exact same game .. I had Lucky Patcher installed so i opened it and it apparently did something (sorry i m a noob at this).. it said removed some ODEX files or sumthing.. and i went to google play again and it updated just fine .. you could give it a try
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Yes.. lucky patcher is installed on mine as well. So that's gotta be it.
So you went into lucky patcher and choose the game (Hill Climb) and removed the ODEX files for it?
DHeffernan said:
Yes.. lucky patcher is installed on mine as well. So that's gotta be it.
So you went into lucky patcher and choose the game (Hill Climb) and removed the ODEX files for it?
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That odex file is how lucky patcher circumvents apps ads and copy protection. And yes if its there it wont let you reinstall.
Fyi Lucky Patcher isnt something id ask about around here. Its essentially an app for pirating and removing copy protection and here at xda we prefer to stay safe and legit.
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Slavestate said:
That odex file is how lucky patcher circumvents apps ads and copy protection. And yes if its there it wont let you reinstall.
Fyi Lucky Patcher isnt something id ask about around here. Its essentially an app for pirating and removing copy protection and here at xda we prefer to stay safe and legit.
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Ah well thanks I did not know that. I didn't even know what it does.. it was installed by a friend.
So how exactly do I undo this now? Run this ODEX remover thing within LuckyPatcher?
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Ah well thanks I did not know that. I didn't even know what it does.. it was installed by a friend.
So how exactly do I undo this now? Run this ODEX remover thing within LuckyPatcher?
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If youve already uninstalled the app Lucky Patcher cant fix/remove it. You have to use a file manager and manually delete it from /data/app.
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Would one of these/something like it work on my Moto G: 1 2 3
If I used a file explorer, could I move apps and music from Moto storage onto flash drive and still be able to play them? Is it convenient and easy to use, 8GB is barley enough for me. Thanks
@Banana4Life ..... Look at the "Meenova" USB OTG unit (there is a thread in Moto G accessory forum but i cannot remember exactly where) you can find it by Googling. It is similar to your 3rd example, that is it can be used in Moto G also as a normal size USB in Laptop or Desktop. I have one and I see it's advantage is that it comes without a fixed memory i.e. you can put any micro sd card that you want in it i.e. 4Gb, 8Gb, 16Gb, 32Gb, 64Gb etc. If I remember correctly it costs $15 plus shipping & handling. It is a Chinese firm but has an office and sales point in California.
I find it most useful for keeping a copy of "sdcard" and backups which in turn can be copied to my Laptop as extra insurance LOL. I also store movies on it and can play them directly onto my phone. One word of warning (which you probably know) do not be tempted to format with NTFS - Moto G wont read it and theres a chance you will soft brick.
It looks pretty nice, much smaller than my examples. Can you play apps off the micro sd card? I would mainly use it for apps and music. Is it easy to access the stuff you put on it as well, do you use ES file explorer?
@bana4Life ..... I can't give you a definite answer to whether you can run apps directly from the Meenova device all I can say on that is that it is quite easy to transfer apps from your phone onto the Meenova, the only trouble I find is that as soon as you select the app it immediately asks if you want to "install" it and this it does on your phone not on the device. I don't know whether using one of the apps which claims to be able to transfer apps to an external sd would be able to help you out but my own limited experience with such apps as "Apps to SD", "Move to SD", "App Manager" etc has not proved very helpful.
As far as music is concerned, same as videos or movies, it is simplicity itself ..... If you run your main app to play music or video then the app automatically searches for the music etc on both your phone storage and the usb storage and plays it fine.
My file manager of choice is "Root Explorer" (from the play store), I'm presuming that you are rooted - if not you can still use "Root Explorer" but you won't have the option to read/write files, only read them and you won't have the ability to see the hidden system files.
The Meenova shows up in your file system as ...../mnt/media_rw/usbdisk. I should have mentioned before that although I am rooted and have custom recovery installed I am running the stock 4.4.3 Rom and if you are running a custom Rom then much of what I have said may not apply.
I don't think I've been a lot of help to you, however good luck with whatever you try. By the way I think my remarks apply to all USB OTG storage devices not just Meenova. Yes I think the Meenova is the smallest such device on the market.
So with the app problem, you can move an app from phone to SD, but to play it you'll have to move it back onto the phone, then after using it move it back onto SD. Is that what you can do? Also, didn't know the main music app would search the SD, thought that you would have to use something like Es File Explorer to play music (which is what I use). I am also on stock 4.4.4
You have actually been helpful, went into detail and gave info :highfive: :highfive: :highfive:
@Banana4Life ..... Just a quick answer ..... When I talked about moving the app to the usb storage I was referring to the .apk ...... but when you click on it it will give you the option to "Install" which it then does on your phone so really you save nothing, the app is still installed on the phone! ..... As far as I'm concerned the only real use of usb storage is to store large amounts of data i.e. mp4 movies which would otherwise take up valuable phone memory. This applies equally to large numbers of music files.
The two apps I use for playing movies are (1) MX Player Pro and (2) Best Video Player. Both are on Play Store. Both will search for compatible video files to play on both the phone and the usb storage.
I'm not a huge music "fan" but I have my playlists which I play using the stock Google "Play Music" app (installed by default by ICS - Jelly Bean - KitKat) it's also on Play Store. This app will also search both the phone and usb storage for music files.
An apk file can be installed with out a connection right? So you can put multiple apk's on SD card, install one then uninstall it to install a different apk
@Banana4Life ..... I think we are beginning to talk about different things here LOL ..... If you download an app from the Play Store then nine times out of ten the .apk file will be downloaded to your phone in the ..../data/app.... folder - the associated "odex" file will probably be downloaded into your phone in the ..../system/app.... folder and any other associated data files will be downloaded to other phone folders ..... Now there maybe apps which will allow these files to be downloaded to your place of choice i.e. usb storage .... BUT I don't know of any apps which will do this.
You use the words ".... on SD card...." please remember the Moto G does not have an external SD card (unless of course you have the Moto E which has an external SD card) so when you use a File Manager and see the folder entitled "sdcard" this refers to the internal memory space NOT to an external card.
Yes you could swap installed apk's back and forth between usb storage and normal phone storage but it just seems to me a lot of work for not very much gain.
You say "....apk's can be installed without a connection" .... Not quite certain what you mean by that..... You don't need your phone connected to a PC by a cable ..... You can have your USB storage (Meenova) connected to your phone ...OR NOT ...... of course your phone will be connected to Play Store by WiFi, but that can't be what you mean
Yea, I am android pleb I get confused
In your 2nd reply you said apps such as App to SD were not very useful but your also said it's easy to transfer apps. By transferring apps you mean by the apk and you tried to use the App to SD to move the whole app not just the installer, but even though using App to SD it still requires you to install it on phone. Is it not possible to move the apk file for every app or do just some work? There are some tutorials saying how to make default download place an SD or how to move an app to SD.
Maybe I don't understand what an apk is? Running an apk will install the app it's for right? Just a installer. And by the connection I mean as in once you have downloaded the apk file, running it won't require a WiFi connection?
And yea you said it comes up as /mnt/media_rw/USB disk in 2nd reply as well
Sorry if this doesnt make sense :/
@Banana4Life ..... I have never found the apps that transfer files i.e. such as "App2SD" any use for my purposes ..... BUT don't let that stop you trying them ..... you might find one that suits you and most of them are free in the Play Store.
Think of an .apk file as being an .exe file on windows ..... i.e. it installs and runs the App (Program) on your phone.
You don't need to have a WiFi connection to run 99% of apps on your phone. The obvious exceptions are online games which require an interaction between you and the Internet ..... Some simulations i.e. Flying - Motor Racing - Boat racing etc ..... Some games which require you to purchase in game upgrades ..... Games where you want to post "high scores" on a web site ..... etc.etc.etc.
I've ordered a black one today, hopefully wont take 20 days like they say it can
Im still not sure about the apps. You said it is quite easy to transfer apps from your phone onto the Meenova. What method did you do to transfer it? With the picture attached, does that option come up once SD card is put in? And just to be sure, once the app is on Meenova to use it I have to install it on phone first, then be able to put it back on Meenova right?
Thanks for recommending it and loads of information - I appreciate it :good::good::good::laugh::highfive: . If apps dont work, music is still important, I'll have to experiment
@bana4Life ..... Hope you are happy with it when it arrives. When I said in post#2 that there was a sales office/warehouse in California I was making the assumption that you were in the US because then they send it by US Postal Service and it takes two days ..... HOWEVER if you are outside US (which I now understand you are) then the postage is by Chinese Postal Service which is first class crap and will probably take nearly 20 days
Whenever I talk about moving files from one location to another (i.e. from phone to usb storage or the reverse) I am always talking about using File Manager "Root Explorer Pro".
When you have usb storage attached it shows up at ------ Settings>Storage>USB On the Go Storage Mounted...... In your screenshot (which I am guessing is using one of the "App2SD" apps) any reference to SD card refers to your internal memory.
It has just occurred to me that I have been assuming all along that you have the standard XT1032 or XT1033 Moto G (with NO external SD slot)..... WHEREAS if you have the Moto G LTE or the Moto E then you do have an external sd card slot.
Anyway I think I have gone as far as I can go with helping you out. I hope that your Meenova arrives quickly and that when you use it you will be happy with what it offers.
Yea I have XT1032. Its was dispatched today . Thanks again! :good: I'll try these App2SD apps, Im sure I'll manage somehow
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Yea I have XT1032. Its was dispatched today . Thanks again! :good: I'll try these App2SD apps, Im sure I'll manage somehow
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So your basically wanting it to be an extension of the internal storage. The only use it has is movies and music. Well basically anything but apps.
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So your basically wanting it to be an extension of the internal storage. The only use it has is movies and music. Well basically anything but apps.
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Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
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Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
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Yeah but .apk files have no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture.
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Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
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And you've both misunderstood what the apps2sd apps are. They're completely irrelevant to what your trying to achieve.
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Yeah but .apk files have no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture.
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And you've both misunderstood what the apps2sd apps are. They're completely irrelevant to what your trying to achieve.
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What do you mean by "no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture", and also where have I been going wrong with the app2sd apps?
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What do you mean by "no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture", and also where have I been going wrong with the app2sd apps?
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Well that's what the apks are there for installing. If you download an apk and install it (click on it) the only use of keeping the downloaded apk is if you uninstall the app. You can then install it again.
Apps2sd apps are for phones with sdcard slots. You can partition the sdcard ( fat32 + ext4) and the second partition (ext4) acts as a extension of the /data (where installed app are). There's a lot more to those type of apps but I'm not going into it all. Irrelevant to usb-on-the-go (any storage going thru the micro USB port)
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Well that's what the apks are there for installing. If you download an apk and install it (click on it) the only use of keeping the downloaded apk is if you uninstall the app. You can then install it again.
Apps2sd apps are for phones with sdcard slots. You can partition the sdcard ( fat32 + ext4) and the second partition (ext4) acts as a extension of the /data (where installed app are). There's a lot more to those type of apps but I'm not going into it all. Irrelevant to usb-on-the-go (any storage going thru the micro USB port)
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So Im just thinking it will act like an actual sdcard slot, but it wont. So the apk thing will work?...
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So Im just thinking it will act like an actual sdcard slot, but it wont. So the apk thing will work?...
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No it doesn't act like a built-in SDslot. It acts like you've just plugged a memory stick into it.
Yeah copying apks will work it's just a file. Like copying any file. I just don't see what your going to gain from that. Your not going to be able to have more apps installed (ready to run).
The only practical use I've found for meenova is sharing pictures from my camera to my phone.
Hey guys....how's everybody! i wan't to begin this thread by saying that I accidentally stumbled on this fix. I've been using Link2SD on my device, the ZTE N95220, or otherwise known as the Boost Mega/Stormer. If your reading this "guide" I take it that at this point you've rooted your phone and have experimented with Link2SD in the past. This in no way is a guide to setup Link2SD and any administartors that think this "guide" would help others in another thread area be my guest and move it. I
STORY: I was having issues with a few apps and decided, since with their latest update now Link2SD has the cool option to choose where your data is moved IE: First partition/second partition etc., and I thought with this new cool feature I'd have a little more power on my phones storage. I'm definitely a gamer and stretch my phone beyond it's capabilities with a Link2Sd/ External2Internal combo. I'm not going to make this about External2Internal, but in case your wondering it's a nice app that I use to expand my internal storage the app switches/or "swaps" the External Sd card with the internal one making your phone "think" lol or operate as if you now have 32 GB as opposed to 4GB. Why you say would mI need this app if I have Link2SD well link 2SD connects to a second partition that you create on your external sd card. External2Internal actually (on my phone) switches the " internal sd card" with my external, in other words my phone has INTERNAL/SDCARD/and EXTERNAL SDCARD with Link2SD you I have something that looks like this INTERNAL/SDCARD/2ND SDCARD PARTITION and EXTERNAL SD. Link 2SD splits my External so that half of it is used as an expanded storage for my phones SDCARD, with EXTERNAL2INTERNAL the switch is made between my SDCARD and EXTERNAL SDCARD,not "in my experience" messing in any way with the 2ND SD CARD PART. Anyway upon doing a factory reset on my phone and Partitioning my external sd card I proceeded to install Link2Sd and was immediately dismayed at the Error Cannot Mount/Busy or something towards that effect. This is the second time I'm dealing with this and my "fix" has worked so this is what I did.
I immediately hit google up looking for Link2SD "like" apps, thinking that maybe something was wrong with the app. I'm intermediate with the technical aspect of phones but I was bought to an app called DS Apps2Sd Pro. The app is a Link2Sd clone although the interface is completely different. In the settings menu it gives you an option to Initialize Link2Sd, i'm not sure if this is meant to work with Link2SD or maybe it has it's own function, which is what i think since it resolved the problem. Just like Link2SD it asks you to choose a partition and an Sdcard, which i did and then your prompet to reboot. WALLLAH!! When i rebooted my phone Link2Sd, which i hadn't uninstalled and thank god I didn;t or I would've never seen that whatever DS Apps2SD Pro did worked. My original Link2Sd was now mounted and you could either keep the app, the DS Apps2SD pro, or uninstall it, the choice is yours. You don't have to remount the Link2SD program itself, whatver DS did mounted the app and fixed the problem. This has worked now a few times on my phone and hopefully it will work on yours. There were a few times when I had to "mount" using DS a few times but eventually when you look at the Link2Sd storage it's mounted. Hopefully this small guide will help you all,since I spent plenty of hours looking for a solution and could not find one with the Link2sd "failed to mount/system busy" problem. Maybe one of you more technically inclined guys/gals could help explain what happened but for now it seems like it worked. If I helped don't forget to click thanks!!
Here's the link for DS Apps2SD Pro/Light is the free version.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.droidsail.dsapp2sd&hl=en
And here is a guide to Link2SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142844