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Problem with Apps staying on Home Screens

In short, most Apps downloaded from either Amazon Market or Android Market won't stay on my home screens, but still show in my app screens. I am running a rooted stock 2.2 kernel.
Just wanted to know if anyone else has had this issue, and if there was a way to fix it without having to restore my phone.

Problems with Apps staying on Home Screens
I have had the same problems with 2.2 but only with apps that are moved to the SD card. Whenever I reboot the phone, the apps on the SD card are gone from my home screen.

krakerx said:
In short, most Apps downloaded from either Amazon Market or Android Market won't stay on my home screens, but still show in my app screens. I am running a rooted stock 2.2 kernel.
Just wanted to know if anyone else has had this issue, and if there was a way to fix it without having to restore my phone.
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restore your app back to your phone memory from external sd so it will not disappear once rebooting your phone that's one downside of stock froyo rom.

happens to me occasionally with apps stored on internal mem. i dont use sd for apps... angrybirds is the biggest culprit

All my apps are on phone mem, and yeah, main prob is angry birds. Ha, nice to know i'm not the only one with this issue.
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Wow good call, upon further investigation, all my problemed apps were put to the sd card by default... thanks for your help!
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4walls said:
I have had the same problems with 2.2 but only with apps that are moved to the SD card. Whenever I reboot the phone, the apps on the SD card are gone from my home screen.
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Same here on stock 2.2. I tried Fast Reboot market app for relaunching TouchWiz, also master cleared data. No joy. Samsung never answered my support email, but what worked was Go Launcher EX, a great alternative to TW.
Strangest thing though... after clearing Market app's data and rebooting to resynch the My Apps section of Market I saw my sim card glitch (slashed circle, no bars) and after reseating/rebooting I was left with phone plus unusable external SD. One new sim, new Cappy (my 4th) and new SD card later, needless to say Apps2SD nevermore!

krakerx said:
All my apps are on phone mem, and yeah, main prob is angry birds. Ha, nice to know i'm not the only one with this issue.
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I think angrybirds defualts to the SD card. Hence angrybirds, and other SD apps dissapearing like the op stated.
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G2X Storage Issue

So, I just got my new G2X yesterday and loaded all the apps that I had on my MyTouch 4g before. Today I tried to download a 25MB app and my phone is already saying that there isn't enough storage space. When I check under storage it shows that I have 1.2 GB left on my internal storage. So if I have over a gig left why can't I download a 25MB app?

OK, so, come to find out that the Amazon market was able to DL apps perfectly fine so I uninstalled the Android Market updates and then it started working again. So, for what it's worth.

jman2020 said:
OK, so, come to find out that the Amazon market was able to DL apps perfectly fine so I uninstalled the Android Market updates and then it started working again. So, for what it's worth.
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What would have been helpful was a better description of what you were doing, the full message you received.

The market downloads apps to a temporary cache before installing them. If you try to download many apps at the same time sometimes you will get the out of memory error. I got it on my Nexus One often. It has nothing to do with how much usable memory you actually have left. If you are downloading a large app download it alone and don't download any other apps at the same time.

Good advice. That's happened to me before.
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jboxer said:
The market downloads apps to a temporary cache before installing them. If you try to download many apps at the same time sometimes you will get the out of memory error. I got it on my Nexus One often. It has nothing to do with how much usable memory you actually have left. If you are downloading a large app download it alone and don't download any other apps at the same time.
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Good call. I'll be sure to keep that in mind in the future. thanks.

Not to thread jack. where I'm having storage issues is the way it seems my SD card is being handled. For whatever reason my phone shows as having 3 storage locations SD card, Phone memory and Internal phone storage. The issue is that when using music players when picking a source it only lets me choose from either internal storage or external storage but the internal storage is the Internal phone storage and the external storage is the Phone memory. Leaving me without an option to choose the SD card. What's even more strange is that it does pull music from the SD card but now alot of the tags are messed up. All the tags are correct. I've doubled and tripled checked that. Leaves me scratching my head as to what is going on.

jboxer said:
The market downloads apps to a temporary cache before installing them. If you try to download many apps at the same time sometimes you will get the out of memory error. I got it on my Nexus One often. It has nothing to do with how much usable memory you actually have left. If you are downloading a large app download it alone and don't download any other apps at the same time.
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I learned something new today Thanks man
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jboxer said:
The market downloads apps to a temporary cache before installing them. If you try to download many apps at the same time sometimes you will get the out of memory error. I got it on my Nexus One often. It has nothing to do with how much usable memory you actually have left. If you are downloading a large app download it alone and don't download any other apps at the same time.
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Makes sense. Do you know if this is adjustable? Noticed more and more storage issues with the new market.

jboxer said:
The market downloads apps to a temporary cache before installing them. If you try to download many apps at the same time sometimes you will get the out of memory error. I got it on my Nexus One often. It has nothing to do with how much usable memory you actually have left. If you are downloading a large app download it alone and don't download any other apps at the same time.
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Any idea how many apps is too many? I've had at least 15 or 16 apps downloading/updating at once on this phone and I never got an error.

On WI-FI I downloaded 10 at a time no problem. On phones data 5 no problems.
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Memory issues?

Is anyone having trouble with pictures deleting or becoming unreadable?
I also had a app uninstall its self....

I have had 1 pic problem and a few SD card errors when I know I have 13gigs free. A retry on the download has helped with the app install though.

I downloaded camera zoom ex and when I take pics, usually the first file is unreadable. One recorded video did that as well. No issues with apps yet, lets hope it doesn't get worse.

mic_crispy said:
Is anyone having trouble with pictures deleting or becoming unreadable?
I also had a app uninstall its self....
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I haven't had anything with pictures, but I have had the erroneous "not enough room" error and apps have become broken (cannot launch..) and require an uninstall/reinstall. When this happens, in the list of applications, they don't have the "nice" application name, they have the real? name such as net.hexage.radiant.hd

I had installed a circle battery mod widget from the market and when i went to take a screenshot i got a r/o error. But ever since uinstalling said app its been fine.
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The attic is kind of weird when it comes to memory. Im thinking it mounts your external like internal and users the actual internal as internal. You have to get a third party file explorer to even see the internal memory. Kind of blows... But once you get used to it you work around it.
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So one of my apps that mysteriously uninstalled itself (but the icon remained) decided to start working again (i never bothered to reinstall it and just left the icon, but then it started working again). Weird.
And yeah, even pictures i took that "stayed" are now corrupt. We have memory issues.

mic_crispy said:
So one of my apps that mysteriously uninstalled itself (but the icon remained) decided to start working again (i never bothered to reinstall it and just left the icon, but then it started working again). Weird.
And yeah, even pictures i took that "stayed" are now corrupt. We have memory issues.
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I've noticed that the first picture I take is corrupted, I just have to take multiple pictures and everything turns out fine. I downloaded camera zoom fx and its 10x better than the stock camera app.

Do you find less issues using that app? Can it use the stock camera button?

mic_crispy said:
Do you find less issues using that app? Can it use the stock camera button?
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Loving this app, it has torch mode while taking pics... Helps the night shots a lot. Camera button works and it does a ton more than stock Moto cam app can do

Still having memory issues. Wouldnt save a single picture from my email or internet all day. "download unsuccessful" for web pics or "download failed" for email pics.
Pretty lame.

for those of you with issues, are you installing apps to sd card?
i'm thinking what it's doing is when you use apps2sd, it's mounts sdcard-ext as dynamic on the internal memory, but then redirects all sdcard items to sdcard-ext instead of /sdcard. ie apps2sd moves apps to /sdcard-ext and sizes that partition as needed (say 400mb apps, it sizes at 500mb). you take a pic, it goes to save it, but the system is now directing it to /sdcard-ext instead of /sdcard. it sees that there is only 500mb left and kicks it out or activates the low memory message.
if you're installing apps to the sdcard, turn off the phone, pull the microsd card out and pop it into your computer and see what's on it.
i also think that if you use a microsd card, you forfeit the entire 8gb internal storage.
then again, i could be wrong...

Ive been installing on the internal memory.
Thing is, some stuff saved on the memory card (ie from inet etc) will sometimes just become unreadable. This phone has some caching issues or something.
And judging by all the complaints etc, i doubt its a memory card issue.

ok, i removed my sdcard
storage still reads at 4.77GB internal
when i try to take a pic, it tells me to insert an sdcard.
8gb is a lot of space for apps lol 10k justin beiber fart soundboards

Jusy found this. I thik its basically saying the 8 gigs that are supposed to come built into the phone are already being used. Kinda dumb.... https://motorola-global-portal.cust...71812/~/internal-and-external-memory-(atrix-2)
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4gigs for apps is awesome! doesn't everyone need a couple thousand apps on their phone?and why in the world does a Linux based phone os need 4gigs of space?
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mtnlion said:
4gigs for apps is awesome! doesn't everyone need a couple thousand apps on their phone?and why in the world does a Linux based phone os need 4gigs of space?
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do you realize how many "talking [insert something stupid here]" apps and "[insert infamous person here] fart sound board" apps there are available?

This damn memory bug is really bothering me... i couldnt save a picture from gmail today to save my life. Failed. Failed. Failed. Cannot load.
I guess i can try a class 4 memory card? I have a 6 now... and with class 10 being out there, seems stupid that this would have issues with anything at all, much less a 6.

Have you tried pulling out your card and reformatting it?

No... i guess i could. Would just be a bit of a pain transferring my 16gb to the PC and back again, but ill give it a shot.
But at the end of the day, the phone does have memory issues, that more than likely be solved with an update, so thats good.

[Q] Default intall location as internal memory

I am on Zeus ROM (actually, I don't think what ROM I am on matters here). After installing a few apps, I noticed that some apps go into internal memory, and some to external. I can't seem to get the logic of how it is decided where to direct which app. I never cared for install location, that is, until this morning.
I rebooted my phone in a routine once-a-week-reboot. When it booted up, it gave me a message that external sd got corrupt and needs to be reformatted. I overlooked it for the time being. Then when I reached work, I noticed about half my apps missing. Then it flashed to me that I noticed some apps in internal and some in external memory in TiBu.
I had to download TiBu too from market since it was missing, and then restored my apps. Now all are in internal memory since external card is corrupted.
Now, after all this history, my question would be to know if there is a way to force the default location of apps to internal memory. Infuse has loads of internal memory, and I see no harm in filling it up (well, that is, if I can really install that many apps).

diablo009 said:
I am on Zeus ROM (actually, I don't think what ROM I am on matters here). After installing a few apps, I noticed that some apps go into internal memory, and some to external. I can't seem to get the logic of how it is decided where to direct which app. I never cared for install location, that is, until this morning.
I rebooted my phone in a routine once-a-week-reboot. When it booted up, it gave me a message that external sd got corrupt and needs to be reformatted. I overlooked it for the time being. Then when I reached work, I noticed about half my apps missing. Then it flashed to me that I noticed some apps in internal and some in external memory in TiBu.
I had to download TiBu too from market since it was missing, and then restored my apps. Now all are in internal memory since external card is corrupted.
Now, after all this history, my question would be to know if there is a way to force the default location of apps to internal memory. Infuse has loads of internal memory, and I see no harm in filling it up (well, that is, if I can really install that many apps).
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This is exciting. I get to help diablo.
Could be a trick..maybe not as easy as it looks.
There is a setting in manage applications that allows you to Move the app from sd to phone. Is this what you mean?
Settings.manage application. Click on app. Move to phone?
There are some market app s that will let you choose where to install an app as well....folio? Something..
I routinely do this for app i deem important...ie not games etc..
Did i pass?

qkster said:
This is exciting. I get to help diablo.
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Thanks qkster, that's so cute
qkster said:
Could be a trick..maybe not as easy as it looks.
There is a setting in manage applications that allows you to Move the app from sd to phone. Is this what you mean?
Settings.manage application. Click on app. Move to phone?
There are some market app s that will let you choose where to install an app as well....folio? Something..
I routinely do this for app i deem important...ie not games etc..
Did i pass?
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Not moving from phone to SD manually; I have to do this routinely on my touch pad cos of its low internal memory.
I was looking for a means of forcing an app to install to internal memory as a default. Even as we speak, with about 62 apps installed, I still have about 1.4 GB internal memory free (as per TiBu). I would prefer an app to go there, than to external SD.
By the way, it helps to have TiBu auto backup apps every day. I have two set up, one for newly installed apps, and one for all modified data everyday around 3 am. That saved my life with all apps with up to date data when I restored them.

diablo009 said:
Thanks qkster, that's so cute
Not moving from phone to SD manually; I have to do this routinely on my touch pad cos of its low internal memory.
I was looking for a means of forcing an app to install to internal memory as a default. Even as we speak, with about 62 apps installed, I still have about 1.4 GB internal memory free (as per TiBu). I would prefer an app to go there, than to external SD.
By the way, it helps to have TiBu auto backup apps every day. I have two set up, one for newly installed apps, and one for all modified data everyday around 3 am. That saved my life with all apps with up to date data when I restored them.
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I knew there was a catch.
Did you look at es task manager on market?

qkster said:
I knew there was a catch.
Did you look at es task manager on market?
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Looking at it now

My interesting observation over the last few days:
Since moving all my apps to internal memory, for some reason, even with a lot of apps in memory, I still have about 150 MB free 90% of the time.
Earlier it used to fall to 80 too.
Phone is snappy, so not sure how this is happening. And since Infuse has loads of internal memory (mine has atleast 1.3 GB free), I think it might be better off moving apps to internal memory.
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[Q] Where Is My Internal Storage?

Hi all,
I am using a stock ROM on my Inspire 4G. For some time now, I have been getting this message: "Low on space: Phone storage space is getting low." I do have a lot of apps installed, but I have moved every movable app larger than 1MB onto my SD card, and I have continued to get the message. Today I reached the point where I cannot even upgrade an app. I am showing 70.34MB of available space.
I have searched Market for something that would tell me what's using all my storage, but everything I found is limited to external/SD card storage. Can anyone tell me what else I can do to most effectively recover some storage? What are the most likely culprits?
Thanks!

search the android market. Diskview.
not much else you can do without root access to that partition

I could be very wrong on this, but from what I understand the internal storage is partitioned in a way that most of it is not usable for general use. I have rooted my phone and switched rooms and I still only have a little over a gig of memory on my phone for apps and such
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Barkt said:
I could be very wrong on this, but from what I understand the internal storage is partitioned in a way that most of it is not usable for general use. I have rooted my phone and switched rooms and I still only have a little over a gig of memory on my phone for apps and such
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4gb internal storage on specs and around 1gb is 'usable'.
However, OP's issue is that he's out of internal storage space. I do know that there have been issues with other devices where moving apps to sdcard still left a copy on the internal storage.
OP: Might consider doing a bit of data cleaning rather than app moving.

Even when you move apps to the SD card, it still leaves a little bit of the app in internal. So if you really have a lot of apps, you're going to have to remove something. Unless there is something else wrong. I have around 150 apps installed, with everything that can be put on SD put there, and I have around 650MB still available.

Thanks, everyone, for your replies. I've been really slow getting back to this because I've had other issues I've had to deal with. I did move absolutely every movable app onto the SD card, but it didn't help.
Wolamok, I had assumed I would have to remove some data, but what? I had about 2300 contacts, many of which were duplicates. While I was cleaning them up in Outlook, I decided to delete them ALL from my phone to see what memory I could free up.. A few contacts were repopulated from social media, but only 60 or 70. However, I 'me still out of of memory and getting notifications, and I still can't so much as upgrade an app.
I feel really stupid, because on my Pocket PCs and Windows Mobile devices, I knew exactly where to look for data and what to remove, but I feel totally lost here.
I don't even know which apps to uninstall, because I don't know which ones have left pieces around in internal memory and how much.
Any more ideas, anyone?
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I forgot to mention that while I appreciated the Diskview suggestion, I can't get it to run. I don't know if you my memory is too low to even do that, but it says it's analyzing the SD card and never finishes.
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MagicSpeller said:
I don't even know which apps to uninstall, because I don't know which ones have left pieces around in internal memory and how much.
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Whenever you uninstall an app, be sure to clear cache and data for it first. And force stop it if that option isn't grayed out. Then there shouldn't be any remnants of it.
When you go into manage applications, you should be able to get an idea of where the most storage is being used. The amount that is listed for each app is only internal storage if you're on the "downloaded" or "all" tabs. So even if an app is on the SD card, what's listed is how much internal storage it is using.
Bottom line is, if you're hurting for storage, uninstall anything you don't really use. Even all those free Amazon games. You can always reinstall them in the future. Hope that helps to give you an idea of what's hogging storage.

pazzo02 said:
Whenever you uninstall an app, be sure to clear cache and data for it first. And force stop it if that option isn't grayed out. Then there shouldn't be any remnants of it.
When you go into manage applications, you should be able to get an idea of where the most storage is being used. The amount that is listed for each app is only internal storage if you're on the "downloaded" or "all" tabs. So even if an app is on the SD card, what's listed is how much internal storage it is using.
Bottom line is, if you're hurting for storage, uninstall anything you don't really use. Even all those free Amazon games. You can always reinstall them in the future. Hope that helps to give you an idea of what's hogging storage.
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Thanks a lot for the reply. By the time I saw it, I had already gotten so frustrated I had followed you advice in advance. I deleted all the apps I'd installed and was going to try out "some day"--and yes, that included all the free Amazon games I'd never played!
I was surprised to see how much space was being used by apps that supposedly were on the SD card.
I hadn't thought of clearing cache and data, and I guess I'm too late for that now, but I'll definitely keep that in mind for the future.
Thanks again!