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I think there is a need for deeper discussion on Blackberry connect on Fuze. I have used BB for corporate emails for past 2 years and have thoroughly enjoyed the ease and reliability of BB for this purpose. When my contract was up for renewal, I decided to go with Fuze since it supports BB and has a much cooler look. And then the problems started.
Facts-
I am using the "unbloated" version of Fuze
I have attempted all performance and battery life updates available on xda
I have used this phone for over a month
I have BB Connect installed via sems.org and have BES plan for it
Problems-
Battery life - I am ready to return this phone for this sole reason. I am out of battery by mid-day (no exageration). I think BB connect has something to do with it since I have not seen as much frustration on the battery life as I would imagine with half a day of battery life.
Phone locking - sometimes the phone just locks up. I cannot do anything. I believe BB Connect has something to do with it since it is constantly syncing emails
BB functionality - there are certain functions that were easily doable in BB are not so easy or not feasible in Fuze. e.g. 'Reply to all' is 2 steps instead of one, search functionality is virtually non existant, email lookup on corporate directory is 2 to 3 steps.
I use my phone via my left hand (especially when I am driving, I know I am not supposed to do that but lets be real, we all do it). This makes it extremely difficult to hit the 'x' button on the top right hand corner and invariably causes 2 to 3 misses before getting it right.
Power button not functioning on occasssions. I have had instances where I cannot turn my screen off at all (needed to save battery life). I have to restart in those instances which is annoying if you want to make a quick phone call. This has happened to some other folks in my company as well.
I think would be beneficial to hear others experience and concerns and hence a new thread for BB Connect users for Fuze.

I had a similar battery issue until I flashed to the ROMeOS rom and flashed the .28 radio rom. Now I get 2 days use with push email (using exchange admittedly) enabled. This really does make a difference.
As for the close button, using something like AEButton you can set the back button to close and the home button to jump back to the today screen etc. This really does make the phone 1 hand friendly.
I have not used Blackberry connect before and so sadly cant help with the reply to all etc
I would seriously recommend flashing to one of the cooked ROMs of which in my experience the ROMeOS is a seriously stable, no nonsense and fast ROM. Make sure you do the radio as well and I think you will find yourself a happy punter!
Yours aye,
Angus

Few more issues
thx for the suggestion. i was trying to stay away from flashing my phone but if there is no other alternative, i might have to do that.
Couple of other BB related issues that i forgot earlier and would like suggestions on are-
I cannot install BB messenger on it. It gives an error on all browsers I tried i.e. Opera, Skyfire, IE, BB Browser
Earlier (in physical BB) if I filed my emails in folders or deleted them from BB, it did that on the server and thereby on the client/ laptop. But with Fuze, it does not do that or I have not configured it correctly.
any help is appreciated.
thanks

There is no blackberry messenger in blackberry connect.
Check your settings in the CMIME service, Synchronication tab when you click the Blackberry icon.

I am running BB Connect on the Fuze and do not seem to have your battery issues. It does not seem to drain any faster than it did before I installed BB Connect. I have run into both the phone locking issue and the power button issues you note. I have no solution, but can just confirm that I have had similar issues.
I have also found these three issues with BB Connect on the Fuze (I checked with my company's tech folks on 1 and 2, who say these can't be fixed, but I am not so sure):
1. I cannot open attachments that come through BB Connect in anything other than the BB Viewer. So I don't get the benefit of Word Mobile, etc... I also cannot save the attachment to the phone and then open in the right application. If I need to get to the attachment, I have to forward the e-mail to my Gmail account, and then I can open it in the right application, but that is a hassle.
2. I can't view html e-mails. Again, if I want to see them in html format I have to forward them to my Gmail account and view them there.
3. Sometimes the Blackberry e-mails just stop coming, even though the Gmail account is still working fine. If I soft reset, they start coming again. No explanation.
I wonder if others have these same issues, or if anyone has resolved them. By the way, I am still happy that I have the Fuze instead of a Blackberry.

I too am unable to download attachments.
I am able to see that the email has an attachment in the "inbox" window. When I open the email, there is no attachment to download or view.

attachments
I just posted on another thread, but it appears that this is a more appropriate thread (didn't search long enough...) Anyway, I just noticed this week about the email attachment problem. I was on travel and a buddy sent me some files that i wanted to save to by device (Fuze) but was unable. I also have a problem attaching files from my phone. any ideas or work arounds?
thanks

Since mail2web went pay-only...

...I've been using IMAP to get my gmail. But I have a serious problem!
Unlike activesync push email, I can't find a setting to restrict the times the phone checks for email. This is a problem, because it wakes me up at random times with spam or newsletter emails!
Other than muting the phone before bed, which might cause me to miss an emergency phone call, what can I do?

Try Seven Beta, they do push for Gmail and all the others as well.

Or try Windows Live (forward gmail to Live).

Seven doesn't require you to forward it anywhere, and it will work for your Live account as well.

the only thing is Seven doesn't work . Really, i have been trying all day, and sometimes it can't "communicate with base", emails never come or come 10 minutes later... It has been a blast for me. They did sent me an email that they had a problem, i guess their problem still continues.

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the only thing is Seven doesn't work . Really, i have been trying all day, and sometimes it can't "communicate with base", emails never come or come 10 minutes later... It has been a blast for me. They did sent me an email that they had a problem, i guess their problem still continues.
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They have been having server issues recently, it is all detailed on the forum. It is only to be expected from a Beta product that there will be issues form time to time. Before anyone asks i have no connection to them apart from being a fairly satisfied end user.

I think the best thing to do is create a Live account (microfot) and redirect by copying automaticaly all your mail from all your accounts to this new one.
Like live use http connection, you can have a free push mail service.
And i tried seven beta but it uses lot of ressources and when I'm in the Metro "The french tube", i've not always the network. Then if he can't connect just one time, i have to re-write my password.

How's the battery when using live.com push service? Currently I'm using mail2web, I'm not sure why my account still works altough I'm not paying for it. The battery life so far is very good. But when using seven, it seems the battery drains faster than using exchange for push mail.

HTC Fuze e-mail client

Hello all.
I own an HTC Fuze and I'm crazy about it. I'm really glad I decided to go with it over an iPhone.
I have two e-mail accounts, both of which I access via a webmail interface because I don't like having my e-mails downloaded onto a computer. I'd much rather be able to access them anywhere, and have the protected in case of a computer crash. In addition to accessing my e-mail via web interface, I also like to have my phone check for new e-mails and download them (without deleting them from the e-mail server). That way if I'm away from a computer I can have access to all my e-mails, but those same e-mails are still sitting safely on the e-mail server.
My primary e-mail is a premium membership Yahoo account. My secondary e-mail, which a very distant second in importance and frankly I could live without, is through a private web hosting company that I have a website on.
I set up my Fuze to access both of those e-mail accounts using the e-mail client that comes installed on it. Initially I set up both accounts to be checked for new e-mails every 30 minutes. The problem is, with two e-mail accounts being checked every half hour each, the drain on the device's battery life is considerable (I have the e-mail client set to download all e-mails in their entirety including attachments).
Is there a way (via a different set-up option, a 3rd-party e-mail client, or whatever) that I can have my two e-mail servers notify my phone when there is pending e-mail rather than have my phone constantly reaching out and checking for e-mail that might not even be there and draining down my battery?
On a semi-related note, the area I live in for some reason does not yet have 3G. A town about 8 miles from here has 3G, so I assume it's "coming soon." So another side effect of the way my e-mail is set up is that if someone tries to call me while my phone is checking for e-mails they get shunted right to voice mail and I miss the call.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Jamie

Jamie,
I'm pretty much in the same situation as you (2 accounts, battery drain, 3G coming soon). The only solution I found was a combination of :
1) Primary email account to be checked frequently (5 mins - 10 mins interval)
2) Secondary email account to be checked once a day (or perhaps every 4 hours)
3) Charge often (I have a USB cable connected at my office desk), ignoring effect on battery life
4) Manually turn off email checking (or reduce frequency) during the night and weekends, so as to get freedom from charging
The problem is bad, and I'm seriously considering getting a cheap blackberry to handle emails (especially primary account) and leaving my Fuze/Touch Pro to be my main phone/messaging/surfing device.
On the other issue, I don't face that problem. If a call comes in while my phone is checking email, the data connection is dropped and instead the voice call comes through. The difference though, is that I don't have any voice mail...
Hope that helps.
CUGWMUI

I have been using a program called Seven ( www.seven.com ) to take care of e-mails. It is a program that pushes your e-mails to your mobile outlook. I use it with gmail although yahoo also appears to be supported. From what I understand, maintaining a constant data connection with push is actually less battery intensive and uses less data than signing on every 15 minutes or so to do a scheduled check.
I used to use IMAP instead of POP with gmail and that took care of the problem of e-mails getting taken off the server. I believe that Seven uses IMAP as well because its function seems to be the same. Any e-mails I read on the phone are marked as read on the server and vice versa. I believe you can set it to not delete from the server if you delete an e-mail on the phone, but I honestly do not delete e-mails from my phone. On its own and also with Seven, Pocket Outlook can be set to only show e-mails from a certain number of days. I have mine set to 5 days. Any e-mails from before that simply do not show up on the phone. As a result, you never have to worry about cleaning up your inbox on the phone. At least, I don't have to, but if you have an extreme volume of e-mail, you may have to even if you only have it set to 5 days.
Also you can set Seven to stop pushing at night or on weekend days as well. My Fuze is on the charger at night but it is nice to not have to hear the e-mail ding when automated e-mails come in at 3am.
I haven't had my Fuze very long, but with my Tilt I recall one day where I didn't make a single phone call, so Seven was the only thing running all day. I still had 90% battery life left after over 12 hours of being off the charger. I haven't been able to do such a test on my Fuze over an entire day, but from what I've seen I believe it is about the same.
The thing I noticed on the Fuze which drains the battery the most is doing anything where the screen is on. Obviously powering and lighting that beautiful VGA screen has its cost. I do have a program that adjusts the backlight better than the stock WM function called G-Light, it lets you set the backlight brightness based on the reading from the light sensor. The lower the light level it detects, the lower the backlight is set to. The stock settings are pretty conservative with the brightness so I believe it will help battery life some while I am using the phone.

pennywisdom said:
I have been using a program called Seven ( www.seven.com ) to take care of e-mails. It is a program that pushes your e-mails to your mobile outlook. I use it with gmail although yahoo also appears to be supported. From what I understand, maintaining a constant data connection with push is actually less battery intensive and uses less data than signing on every 15 minutes or so to do a scheduled check.
I used to use IMAP instead of POP with gmail and that took care of the problem of e-mails getting taken off the server. I believe that Seven uses IMAP as well because its function seems to be the same. Any e-mails I read on the phone are marked as read on the server and vice versa. I believe you can set it to not delete from the server if you delete an e-mail on the phone, but I honestly do not delete e-mails from my phone. On its own and also with Seven, Pocket Outlook can be set to only show e-mails from a certain number of days. I have mine set to 5 days. Any e-mails from before that simply do not show up on the phone. As a result, you never have to worry about cleaning up your inbox on the phone. At least, I don't have to, but if you have an extreme volume of e-mail, you may have to even if you only have it set to 5 days.
Also you can set Seven to stop pushing at night or on weekend days as well. My Fuze is on the charger at night but it is nice to not have to hear the e-mail ding when automated e-mails come in at 3am.
I haven't had my Fuze very long, but with my Tilt I recall one day where I didn't make a single phone call, so Seven was the only thing running all day. I still had 90% battery life left after over 12 hours of being off the charger. I haven't been able to do such a test on my Fuze over an entire day, but from what I've seen I believe it is about the same.
The thing I noticed on the Fuze which drains the battery the most is doing anything where the screen is on. Obviously powering and lighting that beautiful VGA screen has its cost. I do have a program that adjusts the backlight better than the stock WM function called G-Light, it lets you set the backlight brightness based on the reading from the light sensor. The lower the light level it detects, the lower the backlight is set to. The stock settings are pretty conservative with the brightness so I believe it will help battery life some while I am using the phone.
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First, thank you very much for the response.
Second, I checked into www.seven.com and it seems to indicate that Seven is offered through AT&T via Xpress Mail. I downloaded Xpress Mail and set it up for my Yahoo account, but it seems to have even less customization and control than the built-in e-mail client that came with the Fuze. It won't allow me to change any options, instead referring me to "Xpress Mail Settings" to change option. The Xpress Mail settings program offers virtually no choices whatsoever. I can turn Push off or on, and that's pretty much it.
Can you offer any words of wisdom on how I can customize the functionality?
Thanks much in advance.
Jamie

jayla said:
First, thank you very much for the response.
Second, I checked into www.seven.com and it seems to indicate that Seven is offered through AT&T via Xpress Mail. I downloaded Xpress Mail and set it up for my Yahoo account, but it seems to have even less customization and control than the built-in e-mail client that came with the Fuze. It won't allow me to change any options, instead referring me to "Xpress Mail Settings" to change option. The Xpress Mail settings program offers virtually no choices whatsoever. I can turn Push off or on, and that's pretty much it.
Can you offer any words of wisdom on how I can customize the functionality?
Thanks much in advance.
Jamie
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Ooh no that's not what you want to do. Seven works just fine through Pocket Outlook, there is no need to get another program.
Simply install Seven onto the phone, then run it. It should walk you through setup and you can choose Yahoo as your e-mail provider. Since you have already set it up, I would recommend either uninstalling it or removing the current account out of Seven.

pennywisdom said:
Ooh no that's not what you want to do. Seven works just fine through Pocket Outlook, there is no need to get another program.
Simply install Seven onto the phone, then run it. It should walk you through setup and you can choose Yahoo as your e-mail provider. Since you have already set it up, I would recommend either uninstalling it or removing the current account out of Seven.
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Ah, I see where I went astray. On the Seven website there is a large menu option at the top that says "How to Get Seven". So I clicked on that and it steered me toward Xpress Mail through AT&T. So I uninstalled Xpress Mail, signed up for the Seven Beta, and downloaded and installed it.
I set it up to sync with my Yahoo account, and that seemed to go well. I like the fact that I can select quiet hours. Previously I had my phone set to give no audio alerts for e-mails because I didn't like getting woken up in the middle of the night. ;-)
I've got a couple of questions:
1. When I look at Seven's General Settings, there are three options: Phone Data, Quiet Time, and Preferences. I have no problem getting Quiet Time and Preferences to work, but when I select Phone Data it prompts me for "The phone number of the device is" and then put the cursor in an input box. However, I can't type anything into the box either with the slide-out keyboard or with the on-screen keyboard. Is "Phone Data" something I need to be concerned with?
2. How does Seven work with regards to getting messages to my phone? Is my phone constantly "logged in" to Seven (and draining battery power)? If not, how does my phone know when an e-mail has been sent to me and it's time for it to download that e-mail?
Thanks so much for all the help everyone has been giving me on this issue.
Jamie

jayla said:
1. When I look at Seven's General Settings, there are three options: Phone Data, Quiet Time, and Preferences. I have no problem getting Quiet Time and Preferences to work, but when I select Phone Data it prompts me for "The phone number of the device is" and then put the cursor in an input box. However, I can't type anything into the box either with the slide-out keyboard or with the on-screen keyboard. Is "Phone Data" something I need to be concerned with?
2. How does Seven work with regards to getting messages to my phone? Is my phone constantly "logged in" to Seven (and draining battery power)? If not, how does my phone know when an e-mail has been sent to me and it's time for it to download that e-mail?
Thanks so much for all the help everyone has been giving me on this issue.
Jamie
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1. I believe that is just for Seven's own information, the grayed out box shows my phone number on my phone. I wouldn't worry about it.
2. I'm not 100% clear on how Seven operates regarding getting the data. I believe that their own server constantly checks your e-mail account and when it gets new mail, it pushes the mail to your phone immediately. Now, your phone will maintain a constant data connection in order to do this, so it does use up more battery than if your phone was not connected to the internet. The alternative is to set a scheduled send and receive, perhaps once every 10-15 minutes. This would have your phone connect to the internet, query the server, and then download any mail and disconnect.
According to what I've read regarding push e-mail, push actually uses less data because the act of querying the server and getting a response takes more data than a push connection. A push connection is sort of like a heartbeat, it only sends tiny packets of data to maintain the connection, sending more data when an e-mail actually comes in. I'm assuming that less data = less battery used, although that could be incorrect.
You can try your own test as far as the battery life goes, but I had to wait for a slow day where nobody called me and I didn't have to call anybody and could just let my phone sit there pushing e-mail all day. You could run that test and then run a control test where you completely disabled your e-mail for a day on the phone. If you can see your phone's battery life in a percentage, you can subtract the 2 days and figure out how much data per day your e-mail push connection actually requires. I'm thinking it's not going to be that much though.

Things are looking quite good so far. I'm glad I posted here.
One thing I'm having an issue with still, however, is that when I receive e-mails my phone doesn't give me a notification. E-mail is pushed instantly to my phone, and if I turn on the screen it visually shows a waiting e-mail with the little orange number (I use the built-in TouchPro interface on my Fuze), but my phone doesn't beep or vibrate.
I went into the Sounds & Notifications settings and under Notifications and verified that the "Play sound" box is checked and that a tone is selected from the drop-down menu (I even tested it to make sure the tone plays). I have "Flash light" checked and set for no limit, and "Vibrate" checked. Yet when e-mails are pushed to my phone none of those things happen.
Any ideas?
Jamie

jayla said:
Things are looking quite good so far. I'm glad I posted here.
One thing I'm having an issue with still, however, is that when I receive e-mails my phone doesn't give me a notification. E-mail is pushed instantly to my phone, and if I turn on the screen it visually shows a waiting e-mail with the little orange number (I use the built-in TouchPro interface on my Fuze), but my phone doesn't beep or vibrate.
I went into the Sounds & Notifications settings and under Notifications and verified that the "Play sound" box is checked and that a tone is selected from the drop-down menu (I even tested it to make sure the tone plays). I have "Flash light" checked and set for no limit, and "Vibrate" checked. Yet when e-mails are pushed to my phone none of those things happen.
Any ideas?
Jamie
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Ah yes, I was aware of that problem but I forgot that the version of Seven I am using is not the *official* release version. It's more of an in-between build. The notification problem is fixed though as it was a big complaint on the previous version. Something they did between the last 2 versions broke the notifications.
Anyway here's the link to the newest build
http://community.seven.com/files/client.ppcwm6.Release-18_0-327672-def_seven-preview.cab

Interesting. I followed the link and installed the version you indicated. It said on my screen that it was uninstalling the previously existing version of Seven from my phone in favor of the new version. Everything seemed to go fine. After the install, the phone reset, and all seemed to be working fine.
But I still don't get e-mail notifications.
Oh well, it's not that huge of a deal. Thanks much for all the help you've give me.
Jamie

jayla said:
Interesting. I followed the link and installed the version you indicated. It said on my screen that it was uninstalling the previously existing version of Seven from my phone in favor of the new version. Everything seemed to go fine. After the install, the phone reset, and all seemed to be working fine.
But I still don't get e-mail notifications.
Oh well, it's not that huge of a deal. Thanks much for all the help you've give me.
Jamie
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Hmm, I know that when I upgraded to the newest version and my notifications stopped, I backed it down to the older version and that one still worked fine. Then I refrained from upgrading until I found this cab file. I may have done a full uninstall first, but I'm not sure. Try uninstalling and reinstall that cab file again. Make sure to do a soft reset in between.
I know that the fix for notifications on the broken version was to turn on the pop-up. Then it would give you the sound and pop-up preview of the message. Try enabling that as well to see if you can get the sounds working, although like me you probably don't want to have that, just the sound notification.

Sadly, that doesn't fix the problem. I can get the pop-up to display, but e-mail messages won't activate an audio notification or cause the light to flash. All my other sounds and notifications (text messages, telephone calls, etc.) have always worked, so I'm not sure what the cause of this may be.
I'm going to be swamped for the next few days. Probably sometime over the weekend I'll look more into it. But thank you very much for all the help you've given me. Even without the audio notifications, this is a far superior way of handling mobile e-mail that what I was doing before.
Jamie

if you really have a battery problem, just buy a new extended battery off of eBay or something, it's only about $20. shipped. I did that and it works fine.
also, you can change the settings so that the email doesnt download every 30 min, instead change it to an hour or 2.
also, you have one more option...you can use the Seven app. It is a very fast email client without draining your battery. Because you don't have 3G service in your town, you don't have to worry about turning off the 3G....but if you are in an area with 3G service for a while, just turn off 3G. this way you don't use as much of the battery, but you can still access the network and you won't have that much of a problem.

Email sync/slowness issue

Email sync/slowness issue
I have my Captivate to automatically retieve emails every 15 mins but it does not, I have to go into email account and select refresh.
Also it is very slow when retieving/deleting email.
is anyone else having any issues?

Im definitely having the same issue. My email will also sometimes tel
l me i have email when i don't. Its a little aggravating.
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Try a factory reset. It was taking SO long to push some emails from an account that is relatively empty so I just had about enough of that and decided to do a reset and everything is peachy. Instantly the emails started to load up into the inbox and 5 seconds later it was done.. Amazing!

heygrl said:
Try a factory reset. It was taking SO long to push some emails from an account that is relatively empty so I just had about enough of that and decided to do a reset and everything is peachy. Instantly the emails started to load up into the inbox and 5 seconds later it was done.. Amazing!
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I have the same problem. Any other than a factory reset? because reinstalling everyting and reconfigure all my phone that's a bummer.

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I have the same problem. Any other than a factory reset? because reinstalling everyting and reconfigure all my phone that's a bummer.
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I agree. Got a weeks worth of time invested in getting this thing set up and programs installed (and paid for).

Mine too doesnt do anything until I go into the mail program. It wont even save my changes I make in the email settings. I set mine to automatic, so they arrive as soon as i get an email, but it keeps going back to the 15 and 30 minute settings. This is my only issue with the phone.
Can someone who has done a hard reset try saving their settings to automatic, go into task killer , kill the email program and go back into email and see if it saved??

Instead of using the "email" program I use the "gmail" built in program and I get instant emails. But then again, I use gmail.

Same here. I use gmail for my personal account but for work I use the regular mail app on the phone. I also set up gmail on that app as well. The actual gmail app works great but my gmail account in the regular mail app doesn't--it will tell me I have gmail mail a couple hours after I have already looked at it in the gmail app and marked as read. Same thing with the work mail, things show up much later then they should.
Haven't found a way to fix it yet.

Are you guys using a task killer? If so and the email program is not ignored, the task killer will close the email app...which at that point is running services to retrieve your email.

In the same boat. I have both GMail and the Email program. Gmail is of course instant, however the built in email is horrible (at least with Exchange). I'm not killing it with taskkiller, and I've deleted and reset it up multiple times. I installed Touchdown and gave it a try, however it really didn't seem to make a huge difference. Unfortunately I think it's something we are going to have to endure until 2.2, which supposedly has Active Synch improvements.

I don't have experience with Exchange but really, a reset will speed up a lot of the loading screen "lag". That's the only thing that will.

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I don't have experience with Exchange but really, a reset will speed up a lot of the loading screen "lag". That's the only thing that will.
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And after the reset do you use a restore of titanium backup or do you have to do all resinstall manually and re-configure everything (like home screeens and apps)

The issue isn't so much loading screen lag, it's a long period of waiting to do anything (open, reply, delete) when navigation in the program. I'm assuming (more like guessing) that other phones simply make everything appear to happen instantly, and then perform the tasks in the background unlike on Android where everything is done real time.
For instance on my Blackberry and iPhone when I selected 5 emails and chose delete, all 5 would disappear and I could continue working. In Email I select the 5 messages, the program says Messages Deleted then I watch for 5 to 10 seconds as the messages are deleted one at a time, preventing any meaningful use of the program until the process completes. I've checked the Exchange logs, no errors or anything out of the ordinary. It works, just very slowly.

I had the same problem, but K9 instead. After a _lot_ of testing, gnashing of teeth, and pulling of hair, I think I've found the cause.
Email and K9 both appear to store stuff in the /data dir. This is the exact same location that others online have found to be drag-ass slow and the general cause for black screens and/or lag in general. Which pretty much describes exactly what was happening to me with Email and K9. Search here or at MoDaCo for more info on the lag issue.
The solution is to either hope Samsung can somehow fix the speed of the internal SD card or store data elsewhere. I'd be amazed if Samsung ever fixes the speed issue. And storing data elsewhere isn't an option build into either application. K9 might eventually have that feature added, but I doubt Email ever will. There's a potential fix shown at MoDaCo, but it involves rooting, updating the kernel, and partitioning an external SD card. Nothing difficult, but not for everybody.
Touchdown has an option to store data on the external SD card, so it shouldn't suffer the same problem. I haven't played with it yet to see if it does or not.
As for why Gmail seems to work ok, that's a little trickier. It stores under the same path as the others, but it appears to work in an asynchronus mode, relying more on what you have on the server and only checking the local copy if it can't hit the network. At least that's the best explanation I can come up with for why it seems to work much better than Email or K9.

I was using the Nexus One 2.2, with 2 different Exchange syncs and gmail... NO Problem at all.
Different story with the Captivate... Not rooted, with ATT bloat... hardly any other apps loaded, tried both popular loaders. The email is all most unbearable (and unacceptable), reminds me of the iPhone 3g, if not worse.
Hopefully we'll see a straight 2.2 build soon, or I'm really considering returning the phone (already sold my N1 for a chunk of change).. I have 27 days remaining for a return.
Stock 2.2 is the only way to go.

I'd love a stock 2.2 build! But... unless we get lucky with a major change in the driver for the internal (non-sd) filesystem, I don't think it's going to help with the e-mail issue (or the general lag/blackscreen issue) at all.

It's definately not the at&t bloat, I have mine rooted and all of the at&t apps removed. I definately think the data parition fx is the best route to persue.
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You haven't tried a reset? The Email app syncs my GMail account quickly for me, however before I did a reset it was loading in my emails one at a time and was noticeably poor.

Push email is really bad on the HTC One X

Almost every message I get with the built in email app using Microsoft ActiveSync with my office Exchange server comes 5-10 minutes after the message's time-stamp. Coming from the iPhone 4S & Galaxy Nexus where every message was delivered within seconds, this is becoming a major concern. The GMail app is better (though not perfect) as messages usually arrive within a minute. I tried playing with the settings in the Email app and made sure that push was activated for both peak and off peak hours but the issues remains. Does anyone else have these issues and if so, is there any way to fix it? Thanks in advance.

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Almost every message I get with the built in email app using Microsoft ActiveSync with my office Exchange server comes 5-10 minutes after the message's time-stamp. Coming from the iPhone 4S & Galaxy Nexus where every message was delivered within seconds, this is becoming a major concern. The GMail app is better (though not perfect) as messages usually arrive within a minute. I tried playing with the settings in the Email app and made sure that push was activated for both peak and off peak hours but the issues remains. Does anyone else have these issues and if so, is there any way to fix it? Thanks in advance.
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I've struggled to fix this as well. The only advice i've gotten was to try a 3rd party app. I still have my e-mail setup on my old iPhone and my iPad, both get the e-mails pushed within a second of each other. My HOX can vary between 5-45 mins before it gets delivered. I have several exchange e-mails, all of them exhibit the same thing. I have a similar experience on my HP tablet that is running CM9. Judging by the number of threads that have complained about this, it seems that iOS simply handles Activesync better than Android. I'm still enjoying everything else about the HOX.

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I've struggled to fix this as well. The only advice i've gotten was to try a 3rd party app. I still have my e-mail setup on my old iPhone and my iPad, both get the e-mails pushed within a second of each other. My HOX can vary between 5-45 mins before it gets delivered. I have several exchange e-mails, all of them exhibit the same thing. I have a similar experience on my HP tablet that is running CM9. Judging by the number of threads that have complained about this, it seems that iOS simply handles Activesync better than Android. I'm still enjoying everything else about the HOX.
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Can't be an Android thing being as my Galaxy Nexus was just as good as, if not better than, my iPhone.

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Can't be an Android thing being as my Galaxy Nexus was just as good as, if not better than, my iPhone.
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I really hope so, hopefully a fix can be found soon.

there is nothing to fix, it's a feature called SmartSync.
Go to Email setting, sync schedule change it Push, default is SmartSync.
More frequent you open email app, the more frequent the sync.

Check your sync settings. HTC uses a couple different things with Sync to improve battery life. One of them is peak hours. It'll push during "peak hours" and then switch to every 2 hours outside of them. They also have a smart-sync setting that I believe will sync more frequently in relation to how often you open and close the actual Mail app.
Check those settings first.

Thanks, i double checked everything and both peak and off peak are both set to Push. The phone isn't throwing any errors nor is exchange management console. I'll see how it performs today and give an update. So far this morning it has been pushing pretty consistently.

As I said in my OP, both peak and off-peak are set to push and NOT smartsync. That's not the issue.

I've gotten it to recieve @ about 5 minutes but that's as good as it gets for now...
side note I've gotten some really good LTE numbers in ATL... 42mbps

Go and get Touchdown in the market.
Problem solved.

I had to disable the Gmail app completely for my Gmail account to work with Microsoft exchange through the email app.
It was giving me errors with my syncing but I had to use google due to the play store etc.
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Yeah I'm having problems with my gmail account as well. When I check to see if its synced it shows a red circle and apparently the sync isn't working so it's not just about push email its the syncing to google account. Not sure what the problem is. Im thinking it has something to do with the WiFi connection. It might break and its causing interruption in the sync
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I'm going to try leaving it on LTE for a little while...I have a feeling it might be an issue with the Wifi connection when the screen is off.

I'm experiencing a delay, as well. It's almost like Smartsync is still on even when it's off. My delays have been in the realm of a minute in most cases, but it's frustrating to hear new e-mails come in on my iPad and other phones and have this one get them last. It's such a great phone and this is such an important feature.

Quick update...If you go to your advanced wifi settings there is an option for Best Wifi Performance that is off by default. Since I enabled that, my push notifications seem to be coming in more quickly. I need to give it some more time to know for sure but so far so good!

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Yeah I'm having problems with my gmail account as well. When I check to see if its synced it shows a red circle and apparently the sync isn't working so it's not just about push email its the syncing to google account. Not sure what the problem is. Im thinking it has something to do with the WiFi connection. It might break and its causing interruption in the sync
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This is what I did. So far, it's working 100%.
Please know, this will only work if you DON'T use the Gmail app.
1. Factory wiped the phone. Once started up, do not add your Google account yet.
2. Go into Settings and Apps and disable all your bloatware while you're here and make sure you disable the Gmail app. When you get out of it, it'll reload Sense. After this, go ahead and reboot your phone to be safe.
3. Now go ahead and go to Settings and Accounts and add your Google account. With Gmail disabled, it will not sync your email. Your choice if you want to sync Contacts.
4. Next, setup your Gmail via Microsoft Exchange via server method. Email and Username is your full email address. Leave Domain blank. The server address is m.google.com
5. When finished, set it up Push Email and not Smart Sync. If you did not sync your Contacts via Google, you can do it here also. Same with Calendar and Tasks.
Done!
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With this method, I haven't had any issues...YET

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Quick update...If you go to your advanced wifi settings there is an option for Best Wifi Performance that is off by default. Since I enabled that, my push notifications seem to be coming in more quickly. I need to give it some more time to know for sure but so far so good!
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I think you might actually be onto something. So far, I have been getting e-mails pretty consistently after modifying this setting. It will be interesting to see how much it impacts battery life.

Anyone try K-9 Mail? I've been using that for a long time through several Android devices, push mail always works perfectly.

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Anyone try K-9 Mail? I've been using that for a long time through several Android devices, push mail always works perfectly.
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K-9 is not working for me, but Gmail is. haven't tried changing anything yet, just hopped on to see.
Really need some reliable push email. Might ditch K-9 and see if the native client works, but k-9 worked so great on the SGS2, I went to it straight away.

I'm also having push problems using the native gmail app. I posted in the other thread so won't repeat here but just wanted to check in in case somebody from HTC or att is reading these threads.
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