Bluetooth pairing: 2.0 vs 2.1 - How to avoid confirmation popup - General Questions and Answers

I am working on an application, which communicate through a Bluetooth Socket.
It runs in the background, doing Device discoveries and connect to know devices.
The Bluetooth devices is programmed to not Bond to other devices and not to use "Man in the middle" security.
On HTC devices using "only" Bluetooth 2.0 i can programmaticaly connect to these devices and communicate, without interrupting the user.
(testet on HTC Artemis, TYTN2, Herald, Diamond, Pro, even an old Eten M700)
But on Bluetooth 2.1 the user have to accept the connecting all the time.
(tested on HTC Pro2 and Desire)
The app. is ported from J2ME where i am able to connect all the time without a popup.
(tested on Nokia 2730 (BT2.0), Sony Ericsson Elm (BT2.1) and Nokia 6700 Classic (BT2.1) all working)
I have found thread saying, it all about security in BT2.1, but then why does it work on new Nokias and SEs?!?!
Is there a way to connect without the confirmation popup (WM + Android) ?
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I should properly mention, that all the working HTC devices uses a Microsoft Bluetooh stack, and the Pro2 uses Widcomm Bluetooh stack.

Auto pairing fails after switch off and on bluetooth device
I have same problem but scenario is different. It does not work with Android 4.4 or above, except that auto pair works as expected.
If anybody has solution with 4.4, it will be appreciated.
mrtnld said:
I am working on an application, which communicate through a Bluetooth Socket.
It runs in the background, doing Device discoveries and connect to know devices.
The Bluetooth devices is programmed to not Bond to other devices and not to use "Man in the middle" security.
On HTC devices using "only" Bluetooth 2.0 i can programmaticaly connect to these devices and communicate, without interrupting the user.
(testet on HTC Artemis, TYTN2, Herald, Diamond, Pro, even an old Eten M700)
But on Bluetooth 2.1 the user have to accept the connecting all the time.
(tested on HTC Pro2 and Desire)
The app. is ported from J2ME where i am able to connect all the time without a popup.
(tested on Nokia 2730 (BT2.0), Sony Ericsson Elm (BT2.1) and Nokia 6700 Classic (BT2.1) all working)
I have found thread saying, it all about security in BT2.1, but then why does it work on new Nokias and SEs?!?!
Is there a way to connect without the confirmation popup (WM + Android) ?
------------ added --------
I should properly mention, that all the working HTC devices uses a Microsoft Bluetooh stack, and the Pro2 uses Widcomm Bluetooh stack.
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Bluetooth Headset

I was reading around about issue using BT headset with the Himalaya (W2003 not second edition!)
I read several people who installed the WidComm stack, but as far as I have understood, with this hack there are still problems with the headset profile (still I don't now which!).
Talking about the standard MS stack, I read people using Nokia BT headset complaining about it loosing connection and turning off after 10 min. Is this a nokia only issue?
It seems that Jabra hs are working well. Is there any known problem with the standard MS bt stack?
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Francesco
I have a bluetake G2 headset. When I had 1.72 ROM and installed Pocket Bluetooth Tools it worked perfectly. Currently I'm playing with SE ROMs and have not yet used this headset with it.
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I am still using the MS BT stack with rom 1.72.00.
NO Pocket Bluetooth Tools (I would like to know why mamaich uses these with a 1.72 rom . . .)
NO issues whatoever with both Headset (Headset Protocol) or GPS (Serial Port Protocol).
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Bluetooth HS810 Microphone not working
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Universal can't connect with car Bluetooth, while others can

I dunno wuts wrong with my universal (it's JasJar Actually)... I have a Cadillac and it doesn't connect with car's bluetooth.. it always says connection faliure... same goes with all pocket PC's I tried
While other phones.. Nokia, siemens, sonyericsson does connect...
Wuts the problem?
This will probably be because of the fact that your car kit only supports the "Hands-free" profile. I have a T-Mobile MDA Pro (also JasJar make) and have the same problem. As long as Windows Mobile only supports the "Headset" profile we won't have any luck.
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Widcomm/Broadcom Bluetooth stack for HTC Touch Pro

Does any have a Widcomm or Broadcom Bluetooth stack for the HTC Touch Pro? Has anyone been successful in using a Widcomm or Broadcom stack on the Touch Pro? The M$ one is insufficient/too difficult to work with for my current needs.
What are your current needs? The stack on the TP is massively improved.
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I am working on an under cover voice recognition driven data collection program. it uses a nuance voice recognition engine. I need to use a bluetooth headset for audio in and audio out. We are writing it in native c++. now that we have a Touch Pro we finally have a phone with a fast enough processor and enough ram to handle the app, but we are having some difficulty tapping into the ms stack and thought that working with a Broadcom stack might be easier. the app works great with a wired headset but we need a bluetooth one to be more inconspicuous.
Interesting app... I take it you're not planning on a general commercial implementation since having to include a new bt stack would make it less marketable. I'm not aware of any Widcomm development on this device but I'm somewhat new to it myself and not fully up to speed on what's going on in terms of development efforts yet.
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BT Stack upgrade or mod needed.
Please don;t flame me for responding to an older post, but I need help. I have a HTC TP with Verizon with
Long story short, I purchased 2 (Not at the same time) Pioneer GPS units: AVIC F500BT (Later sold it due to this inconvenient problem) and currently have a AVIC X910BT. The problem I had with the older unit (500BT) is that when my phone establishes connection for the 1st tie to the unit, it reboots it. the phone stays on all the while and BT is enabled. After the unit reboots and re-pairs with the phone, it reboots again until the BT is disabled on the phone. Since this happened, I sold the F500BT and purchased a newer, with more features model with a different firmware. However, I'm experiencing the exact same problem. I tried the native WM 6.1 Verizon ROM and 3 different 6.5 ROMS which have the same effect on the unit.
Ok, with that being said, I've been told to come here for a BT Stack for my phone that is compatible with the unit. The Units run WinCE.
Please help...

Bluetooth stereo headset bugs (handsfree mode fail & device.exe crash)

I've noticed these similar (and likely related) bugs in a lot of places and have been living with them for six months, but I have never seen a fix. Surely there are others with this issue that might be able to fix it.
Issue #1: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device, using the Wireless Stereo AND Hands Free profiles, the wireless stereo feature works fine, but when attempting to answer a call, hands free fails. The hands free icon shows on the Phone screen, no audio is heard, and after a few seconds the headset shuts off and the icon goes away.
Issue #2: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device using the Wireless Stereo profile and are watching video in Windows Media Player, if a call comes in, the program device.exe crashes and Windows Media Player will often need to be restarted. Device.exe will often crash at other times as well.
I have seen numerous reports of this problem, and near universal reports of it on the Dell BH200 Bluetooth Stereo Headphones. It seems to require A2DP, and be very common among HTC devices. I have had the same problem on the AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) and AT&T Fuze (Touch Pro/Rafael) under Windows Mobile 6. I can confirm the headset works as it is supposed to on Palm OS (Palm Centro) in headset mode, and that it was also able to work as a headset on the T-Mobile MDA (Wizard) running Windows Mobile 5 (which does not support A2DP).
In all cases, I am talking about devices using stock ROMs.
If you have seen the problem, please list the device, OS, and bluetooth device used. If you have a bluetooth stereo headset that does not exhibit the issue on devices that are known to have this problem, list that as well, so owners of devices with this issue can consider alternative headsets.
If you have any technical knowledge of what causes the issue, please share it. If you have heard of any workarounds, please share it.
Thank you all.
I have the Samsung i-640 running WM6 and have the same issue with The Dell BH200 not doin Hands free mode and the whole shut down of device happens too ..very Frustrating .
I tried using the Nokia BH 100 which does only Mono [Hands Free] and i get $hit loads of static noise but the Device doesnt Shutdown.
Heya, I have the AT&T Fuze and I also own the BH200. I have the same exact issue you have (issue #1). I have no idea why it does this but I've been trying to get support from dell for the longest time with no luck.
I think the problem lies in the MS BT stack. It does an automatic pin guessing thing which might cause the bh200 to not work properly. I have tested the fuze on the BT2020 (by Jabra) and it works perfectly. I just recently bought the moto s9 (still waiting for it to arrive) but I would prefer to use the dell bh200 if possible.
Check my sig for the information you're looking for.
Dell sends you to PC support when you try to get support on the device, since it's usually sold as an accessory with computers, but they refuse to offer actual support on the actual device, as though they knew nothing about it or how it works. I asked them if it was a rebranded version of another company's headset, and they wouldn't say.
I tried to get help from dell already, and they're as much help with it as telemarketers...
Similar problem
Maybe this is a stereo headset bug...
Maybe this is designed behavior, but it is typical of why people HAVE to hack the crap out of WM to be happy with it:
I have a ATT Tilt.
Behavior same under WM6 and WM6.1
I have a Jabra BT610s (stereo headphone with A2DP, AVRCP, handsfree, & wireless stereo profiles).
If the Tilt is paired with both wireless stereo & hands-free, then even if Win Media is running or playing, the hands-free profile is selected when powering on the headphones. Then, the stupid ATT Bluetooth settings are so buried that it requires about 30 secs of sylus picking, poking, and prodding to get it set to wireless stereo.
Is there a way to set the Tilt to default to wireless stereo, is there a helper app for quick-switching this?
Also, there are not infrequent dropouts in audio over bluetooth, even with the phone setting on the desk 24" away from the headphones as I type this.
All the remote control features DO work with this setup, but unfortunately there's no remote control function for profile switching.
Thanks,
I am using a stock ROM and I don't have the above problems. I am using a motorolla hb820 headset. I also use an LG Style i headset, and no problems either. I use Core Player and it plays fine even after a call. I only use WMP to play music and my X7510 haven't froze yet while playing music when a call comes in.
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I am using Lg KE590 but I am not using the device so I have not gone through the problem. Is it for all the handset ?
John
Don Joao Resort
I have several configurations with problems to report below:
1) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => issue #1 (never try issue #2)
2) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
3) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => stereo music & phone call works but music switch back to the phone after end of a call
4) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
5) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dell BH200 => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
6) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
Summary: I tend to believe that the problem is specific to Dell BH200 and some of HTC's or WM OS combination as Dell BH200 works fine with Nokia phones and Dopod BT headphones always work with any phones we have.
Reporting in, Im using Motorola S305 Stereo BT. No above issues whatsoever with 2 devices HTC Kaiser and Touch Pro. Both with stock or cooked ROM. I have a strong feeling its related to hardware prob on Dell BH200.
I have a touch pro that refuse to play nice with my AVIC-D3 head unit...I must pick either headset profile or wireless stereo profile, but not both. I remember coming across a solution called a2dptoggle. It let you switch between the 2 easily (in wm agenda page), but try it out to see if that's a solution or not.
Issue #1 using HTC Touch Pro and Dell BH200
Because of that issue i can't use the hands free function at all.
Only way i can use my headset is:
If i uncheck Hands free from partnership settings, then an incoming call mutes headset, i take out the phone have my conversation manually, after hangup the music plays on.

Using HTC Touch as a headset for a laptop

Aim: To connect my HTC Touch to my laptop and to seamlessly use it as a headset for talking on Skype - i.e. use the cellphone microphone for input and the cellphone speaker for audio output.
Note: I know that there are bluetooth headset per se that may be paired with a PC, but I would like to know how to use my existing phone with this and understand whether this is technologically possible.
I am both interested in opportunities of bluetooth or wi-fi methods for connecting. In addition, you may supply info for software or hardware tools, but software fine tuning is preferred.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
As far as I can clarify I want to use my mobile:
a) as a bluetooth connected headset
and
b) as a bluetooth connected microphone
Are those implemented in the bluetooth profiles which are running on my mobile phone? (or on any other phone).
In general it would be possible based on technology, hence there are bluetooth headsets with integrated microphones. But are the needed profile extensions on the bluetooth protocols implemented by the mobile phone vendors such as HTC?
In other words, is the protocol stack extended by the chip vendor of the bluetooth chip inside the HTC - probably not HTC itself? And is the protocol stack implemented into the operating system - Microsoft mobile 6.1 by either HTC or Microsoft?
i'd like this on my kaiser too..
just looking around still.

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