Universal can't connect with car Bluetooth, while others can - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 2005 Upgrading

I dunno wuts wrong with my universal (it's JasJar Actually)... I have a Cadillac and it doesn't connect with car's bluetooth.. it always says connection faliure... same goes with all pocket PC's I tried
While other phones.. Nokia, siemens, sonyericsson does connect...
Wuts the problem?

This will probably be because of the fact that your car kit only supports the "Hands-free" profile. I have a T-Mobile MDA Pro (also JasJar make) and have the same problem. As long as Windows Mobile only supports the "Headset" profile we won't have any luck.
I have read that M$ is planning a WM5 update/patch that adds Hands-free profile support, but I haven't seen any releases out there that include this.

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Where to buy stereo handset?

Where to buy stereo handset for MDAII?
My handsfree is broken.
Bluetooth Stereo Headset
I assume you mean stereo headset.
I started looking for one of these around 4 months ago - there were a handful of solutions that came with a bluetooth dongle to plug into the player (going for the ipod market and pretty expensive $200+) but nothing that could would work directly with a bluetooth-enabled device.
Around that time HP launched the first - actually an OEM'd Logitech product (which is not sold direct) - but exclusively for iPAQ. (I think Toshiba now badge the same one). Mixed reviews.
Several others have since emerged (some with mics so can work as a headset too): the Bluewalker MP02 and the AnyCom BSH-100. The Sonorix OBH-100 has a dongle but can be used without (it also has it's own 128MB flash player - so you pay over the odds for functions you don't need).
NB Now here's the thing - to get stereo audio into these things your device needs to support a new bluetooth profile known as A2DP. I'm pretty certain that the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack (as used by my HTC Magician) doesn't support this - and I have seen no promises that it will ever. The Broadcom stack apparently does.
Would be very keen for anyone who can suggest how to get this working on my PPC
you can use this
http://www.expansys.dk/product.asp?code=PPCPADPT01
and use any headset with 3.5mm connector
i use this one
http://www.expansys.dk/product.asp?code=114076
it works perfectly but does require the dongle
because the ms bluetooth stack dont support A2DP which the headset use
but it works just fine with the headset profile
GideonS
I searched jack stereo HF, better with microfon.
From BT HF I like Nokia HS-12W
On some forums people writed that connected stereo BT. But for it need to change register. I some time downloded cab file fore this. But not tested it.
Rudegar
Thanks a lot. Adapter is good. Can I to buy it in regular shop, not e-shop, in Danmark?
http://www.pdagold.com/forums/view_topic.asp?t=5012&fi=0
Attashed file for device for BT1.2. But...
expansys is not a danish online store the link i gave was just to the danish part of it
they have sites in many places
you could try going to a normal radio hifi kinda store and bring your xda
and try out their 2.5mm to 3.5mm converters and se if they work
i cant see any russian expansys department but they are also present in polan and letvia and Ceské Republiky
http://www.expansys.dk/group.asp
Dr.Giggly ur help needed
hi , will the pda2k broadcom patch work with buzz wm2005 edition
cause i reallllllyyyyyyyyyyy want to listen to music through bluetooth
pl suggest .
thankx
i havent heard about anybody getting old 2003(/SE) bluetooth stacks working on 2005
isk2005
IMO w2005 don't help with this. Because on Himalaya BT 1.1.
But on russian forums guys try to solve it. They think that problem on regkey.
PS I'm just a user. May I'm wrong.
Rudegar
I'll come on Denmark soon. That is about my question (ragular shop).
What you can say me about this?
i guess an orange shop might have it being that they sell xda2 as m1000 at orange
i guess an orange shop might have it being that they sell xda2 as m1000 at orange

can someone help

i have an imate jam. i have paired my imate with my computer. the problem i have is i would like to use my computer as a headset. inother words i would like to use the computers speakers and mic over the bluetooth for my imate. i can do this with other mobiles i have but would like to find a way to do it with my imate.
thanks
jay
Maybe this thread can help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532
Cheers, M
thanks for the link, but i need it the other way round. i would like to use the pc as a headset. my other mobiles have the services on it, but the imate does not. is there another install to make the imate use the pc speakers and mic as a headset
Don't know I'm not so into the BT business yet (only got a BT gps). There's a BlueSoleil BT stack as well you should be able to find it easily.
Success, M
did a search and could not find this stack.
Have you been here?
Bluesoleil BT stack + manager, stable and more profiles
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537
Got 7 pages overthere.
thanks will try it

Which ROM to use to achieve compatibility with mercedes bluetooth SAP

Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
Don't have a Merc....One day maybe. Had similar problems as you with a Parrot bluetooth car kit though.
Found that Dutty 29 Apr, and Laurentius' latest roms work completely with it though. Other roms may work too (don't want to tread on anybody's toes).
Some of the older cooked roms would either not route the audio properly, would only work for one call then stop routing, etc.
The latest rom I have tried is PDAViet'. Very fast in some aspects, Very slow at others. The Parrot car kit has real problems working with this rom.
Basically, try a Dutty (latest), or the latest Laurentius and I reckon everything will be fine.
Thank you very much Blartiartfast for you rapid and competent reply!
So I will try to change the Rom to the one's you mentioned and will report the result
Have a good time m8
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
i've had problems with both a hermes and kaiser connecting up to the mercs bluetooth.
What i found i had to do was to get both the merc and the kaiser to search and connect to each other at exactly the same time. I found that if you made the merc search for the phone it wouldn't auth, and vice versa. But oddly making both connect at the same time worked.
Hope this helps.
carkit
hello,
i have a bmw , and with the Laurentius_26 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915) , my bluetooth connection works as a charm.
grtz
Thanks both of you ghostie and BeeCee
I will try it
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
BeeeCeee said:
hello,
i have a bmw , and with the Laurentius_26 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915) , my bluetooth connection works as a charm.
grtz
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Agreed! Laurentius_26's latest ROM works very with my ML63 AMG. Sometimes it randomly disconnects, but what Phone/Rom isnt going to?
ghostie said:
i've had problems with both a hermes and kaiser connecting up to the mercs bluetooth.
What i found i had to do was to get both the merc and the kaiser to search and connect to each other at exactly the same time. I found that if you made the merc search for the phone it wouldn't auth, and vice versa. But oddly making both connect at the same time worked.
Hope this helps.
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This approach has worked for me several times as well. I use Dutty's April 29th ROM and have found stability to be fantastic. I haven't dropped a Bluetooth connection yet. Good luck.
T
Many thanks to all of you folks
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
Problems always persist with HTC Kaiser and MB bluetooth SAP
As stated in the replies to my question (Thanks to all of those who answered), I tried the last Dutty ROM and the last Laurentius ROM - but in no way I have been able to establish an adequate bluetooth SAP connection between my Kaiser and the mercedes benz bluetooth sap v2 cradle (I provide the original art. no A204 820 0535 in order to be more precise about the item I use).
Does anybody have a step by step "cooking receipt" how I could establish the communication? I suppose that the MB bluetooth sap device uses A2DP, but nobody could confirm until now...
The Kaiser recognizes the MB bluetooth sap device on a regular basis as "UHI-SN3483" and sometimes as "MB-Phone". The MB device recognizes the Kaiser as "Pocket_PC" with the Laurentius ROM and as "TYTN II" with the Dutty ROM. Note that the "Remote SIM Access" was enabled in both ROM's.
I tried also to modify the registry entry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys\COD from decimal 5898764 (Smartphone) to decimal 5374476. But no connection at all.
I didn't use JETware because I do not want an HFP but a SAP connection.
Another point I could not deal with is that the Dutty ROM features in Settings an item named "Bluetooth SIM Access". What does it is for and how to set it? pointing on it does not result in another effect than display in the header where was located Settings the term "BT Remote SIM Acce"
Sorry I have been that long, but I really need to get into this bluetooth SAP connection with my Kaiser
Thank you all
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
hello guys... I've read in one of the threads for a diamond-rom-based rom that it includes "SIM Acess Version 3.0.xxx"... perhaps it will work with thsi new version... but until now I've not found any cooked, diamond-based rom, that includes SIM Access...
doc holiday said:
Does anybody have a step by step "cooking receipt" how I could establish the communication?
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With every ROM that I have used before this one - it has been a rather hit and miss endeavor to link my Parrott bluetooth in my car with my phone. I USUALLY have to tell the PArrott that I want to link with a phone and step through things.
With the DEATH V3.5 ROM installed I got in my car and was in a hurry and thought I would sync them later.
After I started the car the phone indicated that the PARROTT wanted to connect and establish a connection - I indicated that it should be allowed - I was then asked for a key code on my phone- I looked at the PARROTT display device and had a 4 digit code there - keyed that into my phone and it paired easily.
Go figure...
Bill
I work for Mercedes and I paired my Kaiser 10s of times. I am guessing you are in the UK because we don't use the sim access cradles. I don't see why our technology would be better than yours. The cradle we sell that works is 6-7-87-5878 But I doubt it will work there.
I was trying to use a Nokia 616 car kit with T mobile sim in the UK, but T mobile does not support Sim acccess profile with their sims. I am about to try an o2 sim which hopefully will.
If the NB uses sim access profile and the provider does not support that use of its sim, then the Nokia will not even allow fallback to bluetooth car profile.
I hope you proble is not being caused by the above but thought you should be aware in case!
Regards
Chapelhill
It does works for MBZ. I am using it without any issue
Htc touch diamond and Mercedes SAP kit
i have a mercedes sap v2 car kit, i have the same problem being not able to pair with windows mobile based phones, the car can see the phone but phone cannot recieve the password confirm and so connection fails.
i tried many roms, added the SAP settings, and yesterday had the chance to try the new HTC touch DIAMOND on car, but same results.
i think that solving this problem is just a software issue, first in windows profiles, or as addition from Phone manufacturers (as HTC) ,because the car kit is already fixed to car and cannot be modified to use other profile.
but i still have hope that the professionals in this forum can help to solve this problem, before any of Microsoft or HTC. Please share any information to help
Thank you
Mercedes Benz makes five BlueTooth adapters that have five proprietary firmware that each adapts to a different type of phone. For example, a Vorizon CDMA BT adapter will not work with Sprint CDMA phone and vice versa. So in essence, if you have a AT&T service, and use a Motorola Phone, MBZ provides a specific BT adapter, that would be close to impossible to pair with an HTC device.
I would suggest going to an authorized Mercedes Benz parts department at their dealership and request to try all 5 adapters b4 you commit to buying one.
Only In the new 2008 and 2009 C-Class MBZ cars the BT adapter is universal and built in. In earlier models and other models (2008's), the BT adapters would need to be purchased independently; a 2X4 device that installs in the center glove box that works as a link between the media port of the car ( Hands Free) and the phone.
My 2 cents....
try the neon radio rom
i tried it in one of my friends car
if it did not work (change your car to fit your phone )
doc holiday said:
Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
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Penske MB said:
It does works for MBZ. I am using it without any issue
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which Penske Mercedes Benz do you work at?
doc holiday said:
Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
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Try Htc shipped WM6.1
If not work.
Read this.
The Bluetooth® (HFP) telephone module, which is also suitable for Motorola PEBL U6, Nokia 6131, Nokia 6111, Nokia N70, Sony Ericsson K610i, Sony Ericsson W550i and BenQ-Siemens EF81 mobile phones, acts as an extension of the pre-installation for mobile phone with universal interface, a feature which is already present in many of the latest Mercedes-Benz models (optional extra Code 386). The module is simply inserted into this pre-installation in the centre armrest. The Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (HFP) telephone module, in independent-design closed-box format, will be available from Mercedes-Benz sales partners from March 2007, and is priced at EUR 250.00, including VAT (price applies to German market).
High-end telephony: the second generation of the Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (SAP) telephone module offers even more possibilities

Bluetooth stereo headset bugs (handsfree mode fail & device.exe crash)

I've noticed these similar (and likely related) bugs in a lot of places and have been living with them for six months, but I have never seen a fix. Surely there are others with this issue that might be able to fix it.
Issue #1: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device, using the Wireless Stereo AND Hands Free profiles, the wireless stereo feature works fine, but when attempting to answer a call, hands free fails. The hands free icon shows on the Phone screen, no audio is heard, and after a few seconds the headset shuts off and the icon goes away.
Issue #2: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device using the Wireless Stereo profile and are watching video in Windows Media Player, if a call comes in, the program device.exe crashes and Windows Media Player will often need to be restarted. Device.exe will often crash at other times as well.
I have seen numerous reports of this problem, and near universal reports of it on the Dell BH200 Bluetooth Stereo Headphones. It seems to require A2DP, and be very common among HTC devices. I have had the same problem on the AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) and AT&T Fuze (Touch Pro/Rafael) under Windows Mobile 6. I can confirm the headset works as it is supposed to on Palm OS (Palm Centro) in headset mode, and that it was also able to work as a headset on the T-Mobile MDA (Wizard) running Windows Mobile 5 (which does not support A2DP).
In all cases, I am talking about devices using stock ROMs.
If you have seen the problem, please list the device, OS, and bluetooth device used. If you have a bluetooth stereo headset that does not exhibit the issue on devices that are known to have this problem, list that as well, so owners of devices with this issue can consider alternative headsets.
If you have any technical knowledge of what causes the issue, please share it. If you have heard of any workarounds, please share it.
Thank you all.
I have the Samsung i-640 running WM6 and have the same issue with The Dell BH200 not doin Hands free mode and the whole shut down of device happens too ..very Frustrating .
I tried using the Nokia BH 100 which does only Mono [Hands Free] and i get $hit loads of static noise but the Device doesnt Shutdown.
Heya, I have the AT&T Fuze and I also own the BH200. I have the same exact issue you have (issue #1). I have no idea why it does this but I've been trying to get support from dell for the longest time with no luck.
I think the problem lies in the MS BT stack. It does an automatic pin guessing thing which might cause the bh200 to not work properly. I have tested the fuze on the BT2020 (by Jabra) and it works perfectly. I just recently bought the moto s9 (still waiting for it to arrive) but I would prefer to use the dell bh200 if possible.
Check my sig for the information you're looking for.
Dell sends you to PC support when you try to get support on the device, since it's usually sold as an accessory with computers, but they refuse to offer actual support on the actual device, as though they knew nothing about it or how it works. I asked them if it was a rebranded version of another company's headset, and they wouldn't say.
I tried to get help from dell already, and they're as much help with it as telemarketers...
Similar problem
Maybe this is a stereo headset bug...
Maybe this is designed behavior, but it is typical of why people HAVE to hack the crap out of WM to be happy with it:
I have a ATT Tilt.
Behavior same under WM6 and WM6.1
I have a Jabra BT610s (stereo headphone with A2DP, AVRCP, handsfree, & wireless stereo profiles).
If the Tilt is paired with both wireless stereo & hands-free, then even if Win Media is running or playing, the hands-free profile is selected when powering on the headphones. Then, the stupid ATT Bluetooth settings are so buried that it requires about 30 secs of sylus picking, poking, and prodding to get it set to wireless stereo.
Is there a way to set the Tilt to default to wireless stereo, is there a helper app for quick-switching this?
Also, there are not infrequent dropouts in audio over bluetooth, even with the phone setting on the desk 24" away from the headphones as I type this.
All the remote control features DO work with this setup, but unfortunately there's no remote control function for profile switching.
Thanks,
I am using a stock ROM and I don't have the above problems. I am using a motorolla hb820 headset. I also use an LG Style i headset, and no problems either. I use Core Player and it plays fine even after a call. I only use WMP to play music and my X7510 haven't froze yet while playing music when a call comes in.
Hi
I am using Lg KE590 but I am not using the device so I have not gone through the problem. Is it for all the handset ?
John
Don Joao Resort
I have several configurations with problems to report below:
1) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => issue #1 (never try issue #2)
2) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
3) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => stereo music & phone call works but music switch back to the phone after end of a call
4) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
5) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dell BH200 => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
6) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
Summary: I tend to believe that the problem is specific to Dell BH200 and some of HTC's or WM OS combination as Dell BH200 works fine with Nokia phones and Dopod BT headphones always work with any phones we have.
Reporting in, Im using Motorola S305 Stereo BT. No above issues whatsoever with 2 devices HTC Kaiser and Touch Pro. Both with stock or cooked ROM. I have a strong feeling its related to hardware prob on Dell BH200.
I have a touch pro that refuse to play nice with my AVIC-D3 head unit...I must pick either headset profile or wireless stereo profile, but not both. I remember coming across a solution called a2dptoggle. It let you switch between the 2 easily (in wm agenda page), but try it out to see if that's a solution or not.
Issue #1 using HTC Touch Pro and Dell BH200
Because of that issue i can't use the hands free function at all.
Only way i can use my headset is:
If i uncheck Hands free from partnership settings, then an incoming call mutes headset, i take out the phone have my conversation manually, after hangup the music plays on.

Bluetooth pairing: 2.0 vs 2.1 - How to avoid confirmation popup

I am working on an application, which communicate through a Bluetooth Socket.
It runs in the background, doing Device discoveries and connect to know devices.
The Bluetooth devices is programmed to not Bond to other devices and not to use "Man in the middle" security.
On HTC devices using "only" Bluetooth 2.0 i can programmaticaly connect to these devices and communicate, without interrupting the user.
(testet on HTC Artemis, TYTN2, Herald, Diamond, Pro, even an old Eten M700)
But on Bluetooth 2.1 the user have to accept the connecting all the time.
(tested on HTC Pro2 and Desire)
The app. is ported from J2ME where i am able to connect all the time without a popup.
(tested on Nokia 2730 (BT2.0), Sony Ericsson Elm (BT2.1) and Nokia 6700 Classic (BT2.1) all working)
I have found thread saying, it all about security in BT2.1, but then why does it work on new Nokias and SEs?!?!
Is there a way to connect without the confirmation popup (WM + Android) ?
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I should properly mention, that all the working HTC devices uses a Microsoft Bluetooh stack, and the Pro2 uses Widcomm Bluetooh stack.
Auto pairing fails after switch off and on bluetooth device
I have same problem but scenario is different. It does not work with Android 4.4 or above, except that auto pair works as expected.
If anybody has solution with 4.4, it will be appreciated.
mrtnld said:
I am working on an application, which communicate through a Bluetooth Socket.
It runs in the background, doing Device discoveries and connect to know devices.
The Bluetooth devices is programmed to not Bond to other devices and not to use "Man in the middle" security.
On HTC devices using "only" Bluetooth 2.0 i can programmaticaly connect to these devices and communicate, without interrupting the user.
(testet on HTC Artemis, TYTN2, Herald, Diamond, Pro, even an old Eten M700)
But on Bluetooth 2.1 the user have to accept the connecting all the time.
(tested on HTC Pro2 and Desire)
The app. is ported from J2ME where i am able to connect all the time without a popup.
(tested on Nokia 2730 (BT2.0), Sony Ericsson Elm (BT2.1) and Nokia 6700 Classic (BT2.1) all working)
I have found thread saying, it all about security in BT2.1, but then why does it work on new Nokias and SEs?!?!
Is there a way to connect without the confirmation popup (WM + Android) ?
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I should properly mention, that all the working HTC devices uses a Microsoft Bluetooh stack, and the Pro2 uses Widcomm Bluetooh stack.
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