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Elfin - Flashing the ROM via the microSD card

Hi,
I'm quite new to xda-developers (*collective groaning at the newbie, I'm sure*); what happens to phones here is rather astounding, though, and I'd certainly be willing to make a small donation to anyone that can help .
My problem is as follows: I have an HTC Touch (an Elfin; I can post my device info if necessary), and I'd like to try upgrading the ROM (I've gotten Onyx 5.01 from the forums; it looks excellent). This alone isn't (shouldn't) be a problem for me, but my Touch has, I believe, lost a few pins in it's extUSB port over the years, and will not connect to Mobile Device Centre/ActiveSync through the USB port. I can connect through Bluetooth just fine... but certain expected problems arise from flashing a ROM over Bluetooth . So, what I really need to know, in fairly well explained steps, is: how can I (safely) flash my ROM using the microSD card?
I apologize in advance for any incorrect/misplaced terminology; feel free to correct/rebuke
-Kris

Search the stickeys. There are step by step instructions available

Can you give me a link to an appropriate thread/section of a thread? I've been rooting around all day, and I can't find anything that describes my situation; every guide I've found gets to a certain point and then tells you to "connect your device via USB..." - is there no way around a broken USB connection?

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_SD_Card_Flashing

Soon, I will flashing my Elfin with this method. And I'm asking me if I must let the same name for the rom (ELF0IMG.nbh) or an other name. Can someone tell me if I must change or if it'sd OK with this name ?
Thanks.
PS : Sorry for eventually write error, I'm french.

crapula512 said:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_SD_Card_Flashing
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Ok, thanks, I'd seen that before, but it tells me about an "Invalid Certificate" when I get to the rebooting part... which means my device is not CID unlocked, correct? Is there any way to CID unlock my Elfin without a USB connection?
Thanks again for the help

Calmcacil said:
Soon, I will flashing my Elfin with this method. And I'm asking me if I must let the same name for the rom (ELF0IMG.nbh) or an other name. Can someone tell me if I must change or if it'sd OK with this name ?
Thanks.
PS : Sorry for eventually write error, I'm french.
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yes, the name must be that one, or the flash process wont start.
krisrm said:
Ok, thanks, I'd seen that before, but it tells me about an "Invalid Certificate" when I get to the rebooting part... which means my device is not CID unlocked, correct? Is there any way to CID unlock my Elfin without a USB connection?
Thanks again for the help
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mmm... thats a problem because to cid unlock u must follow the white screen method. im pretty sure u might be able to get to the white screen by hand but not sure how u will flash it then.
another posibility is flashing the unbricker rom (by sd) and then i guess u can re-flash the spl by sd too.
anyway, im not sure. maybe aman or cmonex can help u with this.

Invalid Certificate too

Does the data in the SD card get deleted after flashin the ROM via SD card..???

no, it doesn't

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Create Goldcard without the phone?

My Fender got bricked by flashing the radio and spl and now I can only get to the bootloader menu.
I tried the sappimg.nbh method and it didn't worked, tried with three sd cards including a Kingston one.
The error the Phone says that the wrong Main Version is Older.
The only other option I have now to unbrick it is using a goldcard but without the cell phone booting up I am not sure If I can make one.
Now my question.... Is there a way to make a goldcard without my mytouch fender?

If you can make it to the fastboot screen, you're not bricked. Bricked implies you can't do anything, zilch, nada, nothing.
You can still do adb shell in fastboot mode in order to get the info from the phone.
Read the link in my signature very carefully if you're trying to root your fender. There are currently no (working) customized roms for the fender, and your best bet is the rooted stock copy.

ADB shell in fastboot?
are you sure you can use adb shell in fastboot? I thought that was why there were fastboot commands.
Either way if it's possible to make a Goldcard without the phone, I need to know too. I get the "FAILURE remote not allow" error in fastboot with ANY commands and can't boot to recovery...
Unless of course I can use ADB shell in fastboot, then i'm back in business, i'll try it later this evening

OK, I gave it a shot and it does not work, can't use adb shell or any adb commands with the phone in fastboot, must use fastboot commands.
So if anyone here knows how to make a Goldcard without using the phone to make it or can send me a Goldcard from their phone I would greatly appreciate it... I'm SOL without it.
kbeezie said:
If you can make it to the fastboot screen, you're not bricked. Bricked implies you can't do anything, zilch, nada, nothing.
You can still do adb shell in fastboot mode in order to get the info from the phone.
Read the link in my signature very carefully if you're trying to root your fender. There are currently no (working) customized roms for the fender, and your best bet is the rooted stock copy.
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fibofan said:
OK, I gave it a shot and it does not work, can't use adb shell or any adb commands with the phone in fastboot, must use fastboot commands.
So if anyone here knows how to make a Goldcard without using the phone to make it or can send me a Goldcard from their phone I would greatly appreciate it... I'm SOL without it.
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I'm just a tad confused though... if you didn't have a gold card to begin with, how did you get where you are now, since you couldn't flash anything new on a perfected SPL to begin with.

So... It is possible to make the goldcard? I can only access the fastboot menu no the recovery.

cmarti said:
So... It is possible to make the goldcard? I can only access the fastboot menu no the recovery.
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If you can't get into shell on the phone you wouldn't be able to generate the code needed to make a goldcard... it should have been the first thing you did before you started to flash anything.

cmarti said:
My Fender got bricked by flashing the radio and spl and now I can only get to the bootloader menu.
I tried the sappimg.nbh method and it didn't worked, tried with three sd cards including a Kingston one.
The error the Phone says that the wrong Main Version is Older.
The only other option I have now to unbrick it is using a goldcard but without the cell phone booting up I am not sure If I can make one.
Now my question.... Is there a way to make a goldcard without my mytouch fender?
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Gold card isnt going to fix this issue. You need to find a rom that is a later version that the one on the phone.

kbeezie said:
If you can't get into shell on the phone you wouldn't be able to generate the code needed to make a goldcard... it should have been the first thing you did before you started to flash anything.
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If you know someone with an android phone take your sd card around and get the information you need using their phone. I made mine with a windows CE device using Haret works fine.
G.

gymmy said:
If you know someone with an android phone take your sd card around and get the information you need using their phone. I made mine with a windows CE device using Haret works fine.
G.
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I'll buy it from you

gymmy said:
If you know someone with an android phone take your sd card around and get the information you need using their phone. I made mine with a windows CE device using Haret works fine.
G.
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The last two times I had to make a goldcard (MT3G LE and MT3G v1) , it seemed to be specific to not only the model of the phone but your exact phone and SD card combination, thus how it generated a code to be decyphered and then written onto the front of the card with the hex editor. So it was my impression that you could not simply make a card with another phone and then use it on yours.

Then the phone is dead right?

cmarti said:
Then the phone is dead right?
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Don't give up hope yet... The CID is unique to each card, if you can read the CID from another android phone or even a Palm, WinMo device, etc. then you can still make a Goldcard with your PC and use it in your phone.
From all the research I've done it's just not possible, to get the CID from the Card with your PC.

fibofan said:
Don't give up hope yet... The CID is unique to each card, if you can read the CID from another android phone or even a Palm, WinMo device, etc. then you can still make a Goldcard with your PC and use it in your phone.
From all the research I've done it's just not possible, to get the CID from the Card with your PC.
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How sure are you about that. I made a gold card with my 4GB SDHC when I had the MyTouch 3G (white v1), then when I upgraded to the MT3G LE Fender, I could not use the same card again as it was, I had to redo the process and ended up with a new CID on the same card, but diff phone and once I made that a gold card with the new information, then it worked in my Fender. That's why I'm skeptical bout "generic" gold cards.

Well if that's the case is there anyone from this forum (preferebly from the US) that I can mail the phone to so he can fix it for me?
I can pay either via paypal or mailing the money.

Ive been there too, my phone is semi bricked and the only way to unbricked is using goldcard, and im using fedora to see the sdcard CID to make the goldcard. and it works like a charm
* sorry for my bad english
fibofan said:
Don't give up hope yet... The CID is unique to each card, if you can read the CID from another android phone or even a Palm, WinMo device, etc. then you can still make a Goldcard with your PC and use it in your phone.
From all the research I've done it's just not possible, to get the CID from the Card with your PC.
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PLEASE Explain !!!
What's Fedora?

fibofan said:
PLEASE Explain !!!
What's Fedora?
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Fedora is a distribution of linux, basically sounds like he's saying can get the CID of an SD card from *nix or BSD.

Tell you what... The fender has defanately weded out the people who cant pay attention to instructions. If you didnt make a goldcard... How did you downgrade?
You couldnt install a recovery so you didnt wipe, you didnt install another rom over the top..
Id laugh my ass off if you just reboot it and leave it alone and it works.
Sound slike you should stop trying and give your phone to someone who can use it.

Just because he isn't as computer savvy as you doesn't give you the right to belittle him.
Don't be such an ass.

regarding goldcard creation

I am deciding to take the plunge and root my phone. what I am curious about is whether or not I can create a goldcard on a 1 gb sc card. I have scoured google and searched the forums and cannot find an explicit answer to this question. If anyone has some insight I would greatly appreciate it

youngalumni said:
I am deciding to take the plunge and root my phone. what I am curious about is whether or not I can create a goldcard on a 1 gb sc card. I have scoured google and searched the forums and cannot find an explicit answer to this question. If anyone has some insight I would greatly appreciate it
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I believe that you can do it on anything upto 4gb? either way I used the 2gb card which came with my phone without a problem

i've created on 512mb
it doesn't matter the size, it must be fat32 formatted...and you have to follow instructions which you can find here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572683

What I don't understand is - what's a goldcard?
Sorry for my stupid question, but I allways see "goldcard here, goldcard there"... but what's it??
Is it an SDCard which is able to self run flashing a particular radio/SPL? Can you use it with a perfected SPL? If yes, why don't all just use this method? And also, in case of brick, can it be used to unbrick it? (Dis)advantages?
Thanks

Excellent!!! I'm doing this today. the only other question I have is whether it would be easier for me to do this on windows 7 or my ubuntu partition?

elegos said:
What I don't understand is - what's a goldcard?
Sorry for my stupid question, but I allways see "goldcard here, goldcard there"... but what's it??
Is it an SDCard which is able to self run flashing a particular radio/SPL? Can you use it with a perfected SPL? If yes, why don't all just use this method? And also, in case of brick, can it be used to unbrick it? (Dis)advantages?
Thanks
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Yep, it is. It doesn't work with every single perfected SPL though
People always use brick incorrectly. If you brick it, your phone is dead, gone, not usable. You effed it up completely and the only way to restore it is to like mess with hardware.
In the case though, where you soft brick it (for example: no ENG spl and you need to flash an RUU or w/e to get it working again) then you'll need a goldcard. Just do what you do and get an ENG SPL in and you won't need a goldcard. With ENG SPL, You can do fastboot commands, which does wonders =)
If it helps, you guys can only really brick your phone if you play with radio and SPL. So while your rooting it, I'll just let you know (This gave me peace of mind..) Don't be nervous, I was the first time! Then I found out you can only brick it if you don't follow instructions and put on the wrong spl/radio.
youngalumni said:
Excellent!!! I'm doing this today. the only other question I have is whether it would be easier for me to do this on windows 7 or my ubuntu partition?
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Hmm.. I remember reading somewhere that windows 7 causes problems. But that may be for RUU stuff, so give it a try! If it doesn't work, move on over to ubuntu. It should work fine in windows 7 though!

yeah I figured out the windows 7 issue with hot sync and the adb...
im past that. the only isue i am having right now is with the goldcard. from the looks of it i am golden i have a serial but when i type the next command in the instructions
Code:
cat sys\class\mmc_host\mmc1\mmc1:*\cid
im getting a file not found error...
do i need to put my formatted sd card in my phone? or is the info i need physically on the phone?

ok sorry about wasting space and time by asking questions that I was able to figure out. but the only issue i have now is that i flashed the fender rom from theunlockr.com it gets to the android boot screen and now its blank. should i try another rom?

done. thank you

[Q] root or not to root

dmd64 1.6 firmware refurbed mt3g 1.33.0007 made gold card (kingston 2g) after sandisk2g have adb cant root
everytime i try to downgrade to 1.5 the sappimg either version to old or it simply wont recognize img and offer update. The closest ive gotten was getting a message that said wrong signature. Please someone help me downgrade so i can root
ps tried perfect spl fix

( signature fail)
i hate this word this word by HTC Bluffing eng they made a devices daid verry fast to take our money this company made by a group of lovers of money they dont care about you or me or any one
goodbye HTC
welcome chinese Huawei and ZTE ( they will give Htc verry big lesson verry soon)
i hate HTC

I have issues with HTC...but they stem from my provider. I found the best way is to use "universal androot" rooted both my hero's and have been testing various roms and updates with great success. Maybe give that a try before throwing in the towel.

ummm maybay
am i crazy, I might have lost my mind. I downloaded an app universal androot copied it to goldcard and ran the app. "woot root access gained" Then i ran the terminal app and typed su enter a# sign appeared as far as i know that means i have gained root, is this true can anyone shed light on the fact that it all seemed to easy after everything i have tried.

^ Sounds like you did it It only took me a few seconds, and it tested positive

mmmm....
xda is right up there with too much horsepower,my bangin girlfriend, and free money
I love you guys

Is it me or does the name of the thread imply an entire different topic? Idk.. I thought this thread is about something like "root or not? what do you say? what do I get, should I or shouldn't I?"
Sry, but I think it's a bit misleading.. But great it worked out for you anyway

Danielwhite28 said:
am i crazy, I might have lost my mind. I downloaded an app universal androot copied it to goldcard and ran the app. "woot root access gained" Then i ran the terminal app and typed su enter a# sign appeared as far as i know that means i have gained root, is this true can anyone shed light on the fact that it all seemed to easy after everything i have tried.
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never install any thing inside gold card just use another sdcard and format it fat 32
and do what you want with his HTC (dirty devices)

help i can not find my answer

How is it going everyone and sorry but I have another question... last night I started.bubbys one click root program and I'm guessing my gold card was bad because I think the SD card I wad using was not good.. so I got all the way to when the phone reboot into hoot and it started searching for the pd.98zip and it never got past the first search cause u know how on the video it take 3 times to load it the to start the update well my phone never made it past that first search and it just sat there for a looong long time so I took the battery out and put it back in and my phone booted up normally but now it seems like I'm ether have bad service or no service at all so my wife was wanting me to come to bed so I shut everything down till this morning so any advise will be a huge help and thank u. In advanced for any help!

the file on your SDCard must be named properly. it has to be EXACTLY:
PD98IMG.ZIP
if it is not, hboot will never find it. also, make sure its in the ROOT of the sdcard and NOT in a folder....

So does that mean when I'm formatting my SD card in the "volume lable" I need to name it that their? And would stopping were I stopped cause me to loose service? And if so how can I fox it because I may not be able to finish the root process? Could I just down load the gingerbread update from the HTC website to fix it??? Cause I think I may want another week or two to study so I cam do the hack kit because I've read a lot if really good thing about that?
And to the place I made it to last night cause me to get bad service cause I know it is supposed to downgrade my Rom but if it didn't even find the update I wouldn't think it would have worked.... or is my phone getting bad service for another reason besides the root program and to fix it could I just do the gingerbread update?

Anyone? Please lol I need to know if I can just do the HTC gingerbread update or will that not work now?

I believe the one click downgrades for root and then flashes a workable rom. It is possible you may be stuck on the downgrade rom. Go to settings, about phone, software information and see what your baseband version and software/build number is. If you are on the downgrade rom, I would just pickup with the hack kit menu 3 and then manually flash a rom.
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In I checked it out and it said
2.2.1
Kernel. 2.6.32.21-96a5ff14
Baseband 12.39a.60.19u_26.06.06.30
Software 1.84.502.11
Browser version web kit 3.1
Can I just download HTC gingerbread and try rooting later? Would that be safe to do cause I can't mess with this any more today and my phone said it got service but I can't call or txt half the time so can I just do the HTC gingerbread update?

if you arent concerned with root, or flashing a custom rom, just run the RUU from HTC to do your update. it will get you a working phone

Ok well I am but I believe my gold card I made was bad and when checking for the zip file it never found it? And it seems it may have down graded my Rom cause I only get calls when I have edge... and after restarting my phone my notification bar said SD card broken? Or something like that and said I needed to format. So I did the format and the notification went away.. then I pluged my phone back n2 the computer and it said removable disk f as if I had never dine anything to it? .... And now the last time I tride it on my brothers phone witch had gingerbread so of course i found out that it didn't work for gingerbread but when his phone was pluged into the computer his SD card was recognised as a goldcard on the computer. And now I'm scared and am wanting to do the update on htcs website so my phone will work and I cam try it again in a couple weeks when I figure out what I'm doing wrong..

Yeah. You have a lot of reading to do. Bubby's one click is out of date and should not be used, as suggested in numerous threads....
Sent from my Inspire 4G

Yea I know I do lol so it will be safe to download the HTC gingerbread update even if my phone was downgraded and thank you so much for your help! Sorry if I'm being a pain..

yeah, just install the gingerbread RUU and call it good until you do some more research

Ok yea I did download the ruu update and all is well... Lol I've done a ton off research lol I've read through almost all of both bubbys and the hack lord threads watch bubbys video like 30 times lol and read through countless other info and.forums lol I've got this obsession problem lol so I've done a lot of research but I'm also a worrie wort lol and I realized when my wife got home that her phone just like mine had full servise with all the bars and she wad not able to. Get out either????? So I don't know what's up with that and thee was nothing wrong with my phone so it hadn't downgraded thee Rom or anything. BUT... Lol ima do a little more research on the ace hack kit and use that because I had read that that method was less problematic the bubbys method but I felt more cunfy with bubbys cause that method sooo ima read more on Tue hack kit and thanks for the help today and have a good one.. ohh and if my spelling is all jacked up its cause I'm on .my cell and I hate the spelling auto correct feature lol

I can't believe I actually made it through reading this thread.

bubby's oneclick is only still viable for making the goldcard since (at least imo) its the easiest way to do it.
After the goldcard is made you shouldnt be using bubbys guide anymore as it doesnt work for rooting (if on gingerbread).
Use Ace hack kit and you should be fine, but if you are still having trouble i can find you the website i used to root on 2.3.3 before the hack kit was updated to v12 that has step by step instructions with simple non-techie terms (was great for me before i started reading heavily on here)
Last thing, remember to completely remove your antivirus, not just disable! (sorry, had to throw that in there, i just disabled the first time i tried to root and got screwed lol)