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XDA: The time is right

Dear XDA: I think the time has come for you to step out of the shadows. I was at Barnes and Noble the other day and started looking for a magazine in their sizable magazine section. I was frustrated when i went to look for a magazine about android -anything- and found zero mags. However, i did happen to find 12 magazines covering apple. Soo i searched online and to my dismay have only found one magazine that covers android and only apps. Please save all of us who love android and need something to read on the toilet. I promise you i will be the first to subscribe. There is a desert wasteland when it comes to android magazines and you could be our oasis. Seems like now could be the opportune time.
(sorry for the dramatics...just thought it would be fun to post my thoughts about this...)

A magazine on Android ? hmmm...

It's a good idea. There's inough content out there right now to fill a year's worth of monthly editions. I'd subscribe (as long as it wasn't priced unreasonably), and it could open way more people to Android rooting/flashing/modding...
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+1 thats whats missing actually. go for it XDA. u properly backed up anyway, so ...

Definitely a good idea. The democracy has always overthrowed the dictatorship. That's just the way the world goes.

If nothing else, and I hate to say it, think of the revenues.
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an XDA-MAg it's a good idea, specially if my work it's on the front page....hehehe .
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Sounds cool. But sounds dangerous for xda also. Just thinking that people who aren't supposed to root or mod their phones might pick up a magazine andtry, then fail, maybe even brick their phones, and then they try sue xda. All i'm trying to say is I think it's best for people who don't have the mindset for modding or whatnot, to not be introduced to it or even tempted.

Kailkti said:
Sounds cool. But sounds dangerous for xda also. Just thinking that people who aren't supposed to root or mod there phones might pick up a magazine and try, then fail, maybe even brick their phones, and then they try sue xda. All i'm trying to say is I think it's best for people who don't have the mindset for modding or whatnot, to not be introduced to it or even tempted.
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A Warning on any article helps, they cannot get sued just because someone brick their phone, it wont be XDA fault.

Yeah but some narrow-minded twit is bound to try and go after xda at some point anyways, if it hasn't happened already. And there's always an opportunistic lawyer to accomodate (apologies to any members who happen to be lawyers lol). That's why there are disclaimers at the top of almost every thread. At least magazine revenue would help pay the legal defense fees.
This site has gotten so big since Android got hot, there's a constant influx of people who just bought their first smartphone and already know they want it rooted with CM7 and A2SD, but have no idea how to make it happen. If properly implemented, the mag could be a roadmap to get them started, and teach them some forum etiquitte (search, read, search, read, find correct forum to ask in) before they end up neck deep in technical terms they've never heard before, and a device that no longer boots. Beats following some half-ass youtube video with a megaupload link and then having a first post on xda titled 'help i bricked my...'
Edit: damn you, skepticalguy, you stole my spot ;-p
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yes,agree............

TheSkepticalGuy said:
A Warning on any article helps, they cannot get sued just because someone brick their phone, it wont be XDA fault.
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A warning/disclaimer won't be a magical 'no lawsuit' pass for anyone. If enough people face issues and ends up bricking their devices, the magazine will get sued. Whether the lawsuit succeeds or not is up in the air, but I doubt it's 100% guaranteed to fail and, more likely than not, retailers selling the magazine will then ask themselves if they should continue stocking it or not.
And, of course, we're just talking about lawsuits from regular folks. Imagine if Google (or any number of other corporations involved in profiting from Android) gets a hold of the news that there's a magazine out there advising the general population on hacking the OS. Somehow, I think this is going to be another one of those times when 'Do No Evil' no longer applies.
If XDA decides to gets its own magazine, it should do what others have done: Give advice to look up how to do it, but do not offer any direct advice. If the people reading the magazine decides to continue doing it, then they only have whatever advice source they looked up to blame if something screws up. Of course, this still doesn't give the 'No Lawsuits' pass, but it'll probably be a much stronger case for the magazine.
All of this could just be my pessimism speaking, so no one has to feel that what I said will be unalterable reality. Still, it seems like an awful lot of risk for an attempt to get into a market that is supposedly not doing so well. I mean, there's nothing wrong with being online-exclusive. I doubt Engadget, with its 5+ million visitors, is complaining.

True true. The xda portal is pretty much like engadget itself. And engadget gets some of its news from xda also. Guess the problem is, the amount of people that are interested in hacking and modding, which is a relatively small amount. And well, as said before, we don't want to be inviting people who aren't supposed to be hacking or modding, else we get more threads saying how they bricked their phones. So maybe it's best to just stay as it is now.

^ Yes, you are right about that, but perhaps it's not as matter of exposure.
Look at the iPhone. Jailbreaking is much more widespread than Android rooting, but last I heard, it was still only about 2-4% of the entire iPhone userbase that was doing it. As others mentioned, there are several iPhone/Apple magazines too.
I think hacking has always been the domain of a small number of folks who probably knows the method to find out how to do such things by themselves anyway. The overwhelming majority probably doesn't want to hack and additional exposure by magazines to them might increase the hacking community by a small amount, but probably not any very significantly.
Rooting/jailbreaking/custom ROMS/etc will probably continue to be the domain of folks like those who frequent XDA and it's unlikely that it'll ever be as popular as, say, downloading MP3s until it becomes a super easy/risk-free task that has an undeniable benefit to the common man.
But frankly, I don't see a need to make it as common as downloading MP3s anyway. XDA is freely available to anyone who wants to know and, for those who don't want to know, let them continue using a stock Samsung Nexus S.

Yes... xda is the way forward! It is improving alot!!!!!!!!!
Now we have xda tv, i cant wait to see whats next!
Also @OP, why don't you take your phone to the toilet LOL You will have your all in one phone/magazine/browser
Jokes!

LMAO I actually just read the last few posts on the crapper!! Get out of my head!
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huggs said:
LMAO I actually just read the last few posts on the crapper!! Get out of my head!
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Melvin's Notice to all

Hello XDA world.
First of all I would like to apologize to anyone that was offended by me or anything like that. I’ve been getting a lot of hate from idiots that come to XDA to troll and they never do anything for the community. I was banned for 2 years from the site because MY PERSONAL TESTER HOMAIS wanted to remember his 10 years old age and decided to **** me over. I had weeks without talking to him since he was my HTC Sensation ROM tester and I moved to the beloved TMO Samsung Galaxy S II and no longer needed him. My friendship with him started when I released Senseless ROM which was a BOMB and got over 110,000 downloads. He started talking on my thread and was a user, who seemed to be a good person, and he joined my FACEBOOK group and all and it continued like that as he asked me if he could test my early builds. I said yes as I was looking for tester to make a testers squad and I got him in. **** was going well and we formed a friendship and laughed and talked daily. I used to tell users to thank me if they liked my work. Homais started spending his 5 thanks on me and telling me about it. I wanted to beat a couple of people that used to flame me on my first days as a developer so I didn’t say no to homais which I had to do so IMO now that I think about it. Homais kept thanking me daily (5 thanks daily) and one day he made 2 accounts to thank me. I did not ask him to do so, he did it by himself and started giving me 15 thanks daily. I wasn’t liking the idea as it was just wrong but he kept thanking me. Well to make it short I moved to the TMO SGSII and homais and me didn’t talk so much. He gave me all his passwords for his accounts, Homais, homiethedev, dr.devman (password=yourmom). I did not thank myself with his accounts as I just didn’t feel like doing so. The HTC Sensation forums made me very big and I wanted to be clear of trouble and stuff like that. More in the present, few weeks ago I told Homais to open a bounty thread for me on the Skyrocket as I was told by a mod that I could not make myself a bounty thread. Homais agreed. He posted the thread for me. But still we didn’t talk much as before. Coming to today, he emails me saying a bunch of crap and I’m like what the f is going on. He started telling me a bunch of crap and that he was going to close the thread for the bounty and more ****. I was like grow up kid.
Homais told mods that I hacked his account, that I thanked myself on threads, and who the hell knows what else. Clearly it was all lies. On the email he sent me, he was saying that the reason for doing this to me was because he helped me a lot and every time he asked me for help, I did not help him. I’m a very busy developer short on time and almost don’t even sleep. He thinks a dev has all the free time as him or what ever. Well yea guys the idiot is so child that got me banned for 2 years because I couldn’t help him when he needed me. GOD dam what kind of balls. Keyboard hood to the attack. That’s what homais is. But well this is not the subject.
To XDA now! You made a big mistake. You DID NOT ASK ME anything. YOU MAKE THE DUMBEST DESITION EVER. You banned someone that has been supporting the community for almost a year for the simple reason that MY DAMM TESTER DECIDED TO RUIN MY LIFE. XDA was all I cared about. Where I felt I was at home, where I shared my work all the time. I was loyal to the site, always helping everyone, listening to users and the last thing I had in my mind was money when I went to the site. I spent LOTS of my free time making my ROMs, ported apps, mods and all I shared on the site. You all are making it wrong guys. But keep it like that and your big site will keep going down and down as it’s been for the year. Rootzwiki is gaining them all. If you don’t unban me I’ll be working on my new home droid-tech.net as the owner really appreciates what I do and as an action of grateful he’s even sending me a free phone and will send me the devices I want to dev on. That’s what I worth. I don’t care about the phones but rather the help he’s giving me. I would like XDA to ban Homais and his accounts homiethedev and dr.devman as he caused this mess and got me into this big issue. I would like XDA to unban me or at least Let me start fresh and all. I have thousands of followers and thousands of followers would be mad at XDA for this.
If you are one of my followers, I will be at droid-tech.net, also you can follow me on twitter and Facebook as those places is where I’ll be posting my work and maybe I’ll have sammydr10 to post my ROMs at XDA. My apologies to my dear users which I love. I WONT stop development as this is just what I love. Too bad that XDA made this injustice with me.
Skyrocket users, I did not still your money for the device. I will buy the device as soon as I can complete the money missing or if someone want to help still then it would be good. I’m really sorry for all this guys.
@TMO SGSII users, ill be posting all my work at droid-tech.net again as the company wiped the data of the site and all the work was lost. Please follow me @bosina_dev (twitter) , Melvin peralta (G+) And on my FB group.
I will post here some proof and pics of what I was talking and some others so you all get the mind clear about me!
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^^Right there is the prove that I did NOT stole homais passwords. AND he SAYS THAT HE ****ED ME OVER. NOT THAT I DID WRONG!
Take NOTES!
Again ^^ More proof that the idiot lied.
All seems as a troller.. What an asshole without **** to do!
Again, im sorry to XDA and my users. Maybe I get a chance in live. Thanks guys. Love you all. Apreciate all those who have taken money from their bills to give me some love.
From Your Young dev Melvin, The Dev that never sleeps. :’(

Wow that is weak....... is xda going to reinstate hia account?

silver03wrx said:
Wow that is weak....... is xda going to reinstate hia account?
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im not sure just posted at his request he is my friend and fellow dev buddy

I hope they do i was testing his beastmod test4 rom for him . Seems like a good dude and a good developer

Can he make a new acccount?
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Thank you for posting this. We needed to hear his side of the story.
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I love his ROM and I want him back
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if he does get the att skyrocket he will still dev just on droidtech

I've referred the thread to the senior moderation team for their attention. As far as I'm concerned, this kind of thread doesn't belong on XDA. If you want to gripe about a ban, then privately message one of the administrators or senior moderators.

I would add that the above fails to address a significant portion of the reason for his removal. Namely the creation of an account to go about thanking himself, and the IP address evidence from the posts made using "his friend's" account.
Let this be a reminder to everyone. I hate seeing this kind of thing. Use secure passwords. Don't give them to ANYONE. If someone gives you their password, don't use it. It's not worth it.
Especially when people are dealing with money and financial things - it's not right for one party to imitate another...
So yes, I would remind people that the above is merely one viewpoint from the individual concerned. It does not address the evidence regarding use of accounts. Either way, I have seen satisfactory proof that the posts were made from Melvin's connection, and not that of the account holder.
I don't know what these kids are playing at, but folks, take this as a learning opportunity - if you have shared your password, change it. Then don't do it again. Make sure it's a good one. It's your duty to keep your password safe on XDO, and other sites you use.
And yes, making unauthorised access to another user's account is illegal. We don't want to investigate if you had permission or not - that's what the courts are for. Just a reminder to look after yourselves online

[Q] Sidekick 4g dock bar

Here is a Noob question for you. Is it possible to add an item to the stock SK4G dock bar? I want to add web in between apps and contacts cause I use it so much. I have searched the forums and can't come up with anything. Thanks.

Unfortunatly no :'( I tried doing it before and got tired of trying to figure out how to do it so I just got launcher pro than the cracked version of launcher pro plus xD
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l1f3h4cker said:
Unfortunatly no :'( I tried doing it before and got tired of trying to figure out how to do it so I just got launcher pro than the cracked version of launcher pro plus xD
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shame on you. the developers work hard on those apps. you are one of many reasons why I wont develop apps cause it will just end up on some torrent or pirate site so cheap bastards such as your self can steal it.
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I know that developer and that is the reason hes not updating his launcher to work with ICS. Hes sick of his work being stolen from him.
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ReActiveDisorder said:
shame on you. the developers work hard on those apps. you are one of many reasons why I wont develop apps cause it will just end up on some torrent or pirate site so cheap bastards such as your self can steal it.
I know that developer and that is the reason hes not updating his launcher to work with ICS. Hes sick of his work being stolen from him.
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yeah thats poopy, but its the way of the world. people shouldnt do things they love for the hope of money, and if they dont love doing it they shouldnt do it at all.

i agree that the developer should be supported, but, if you like me and cant even afford a 1$ app, using their app and telling people how great it is is the next best thing.

Thanks for the heads up. Its a shame it can't be done but I guess that's what ROMS are for. Maybe Reactive Disorder will see this and kung fu it into one of his. I've been looking at his work and I swear he is half computer with the stuff he does. But anyway I don't agree with swiping peoples work. If they put it out there for free or just want donations then its fine to get it, otherwise PAY THEM FOR THEIR WORK! I am a chef and a musician. I HATE when people rip me off and can't tolerate seing it done to someone else. Nothing worse than spending days/weeks poring everything into something just to have someone else come in and snatch it without even a thought about what you went through. At least in my circles if you get ahold of my recipes or sheet music I can come and punch you in the face when I catch you.
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-Nomad- said:
Thanks for the heads up. Its a shame it can't be done but I guess that's what ROMS are for. Maybe Reactive Disorder will see this and kung fu it into one of his. I've been looking at his work and I swear he is half computer with the stuff he does. But anyway I don't agree with swiping peoples work. If they put it out there for free or just want donations then its fine to get it, otherwise PAY THEM FOR THEIR WORK! I am a chef and a musician. I HATE when people rip me off and can't tolerate seing it done to someone else. Nothing worse than spending days/weeks poring everything into something just to have someone else come in and snatch it without even a thought about what you went through. At least in my circles if you get ahold of my recipes or sheet music I can come and punch you in the face when I catch you.
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i agree to a degree, but honestly if that person cant afford your music and there was no way to get it free, you wouldnt have gotten that money anyway.

yoyowhatup22 said:
i agree to a degree, but honestly if that person cant afford your music and there was no way to get it free, you wouldnt have gotten that money anyway.
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I can see where your coming from but its a little different in the music world. At my shows there is the expensive seats up front, cheap seats in the back and free out in the field. I am not saying that I am after everyone's money just give me credit for my work. I have had people steal my sheet music and claim it as their own before. That doesn't mean I won't make money at all but I put a lot of work into that and to have someone else say they did it is what pissed me off. He could have had it if he just asked but that was weeks of my time lost and I have nothing to show for it. When it comes to apps I agree that there should be a free trial for all of them, but if its not and you can only get it by paying then if you want it bad enough you will buy it. If making apps was my only source of income and someone leaked it and everyone gets it for free without at least donating then I would starve. That's what gets me so riled up.

It's like every thread on here, ReActive butts in and it goes way off-topic (or he just insults someone for posting about a dream), but I can't stay away from this one as it speaks to the core of my principals.
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He could have had it if he just asked but that was weeks of my time lost and I have nothing to show for it.
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...so how does that change if he asked? What do you have to show for it then that you lost by him not asking? Even if he doesn't ask, you can still say: Hey, I made that, and people are benefiting from it. Isn't that why you create art, so people can enjoy it? Does it really matter if they know who the artist is or not (if you are not trying to make money off it)?
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If making apps was my only source of income and someone leaked it and everyone gets it for free without at least donating then I would starve. That's what gets me so riled up.
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Back to money again. Money is a false construct and has nothing to do with art, skill, or creativity. If your only source of income is payment from individuals for something you can copy and reproduce without costing you any money or time, then you are in the wrong business. If I can't hold it in my hand, it is not a commodity, it is simply knowledge/information/directions/instructions. All of those things should be free to the entire globe.
If I can see it, if I can hear it, if I can learn how to build it... then I have an undeniable human right to record it, copy it, modify it, and redistributed it to anyone and everyone. Not sharing your recipes/sheet-music with who ever is interested (for free) is a crime to my sense of morality/values. It is all just information, and the collection of all the worlds information should be freely available to every human on the planet.
"If I give you a pfennig, you will be one pfennig richer and I'll be one pfennif poorer. But if I give you an idea, you will have a new idea, but I shall still have it too" - Albert Einstein

You can't "build" it, pal.
Stealing my software (or anybody else's) is a crime.
Furthermore, it's not about the love and it's not about the people; it's about the money.
Anytime you publish any kind of IP, you know that there will be theft, but that doesn't mean I have to like it--or endorse it.
Furthermore, this site forbids piracy and if you go around proudly saying otherwise, you will proudly join Jin out there in the wild blue yonder.
If you can "build" all this great software, just make your own. No need to steal it if it's so trivial and easy for you.

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Stealing my software (or anybody else's) is a crime.
Anytime you publish any kind of IP, you know that there will be theft, but that doesn't mean I have to like it--or endorse it.
If you can "build" all this great software, just make your own. No need to steal it if it's so trivial and easy for you.
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I had a huge event to get ready for so getting back into the forums here to post has been challenging. Thank you Orange808. I was upset I couldn't get on to tell the other guy about how stealing from me hurt me, but you got to them first. I say that at the end of the day, no mater how you try to justify it, if you take something that's not yours without going through the proper channels you are a thief. I don't care what kind of Robin Hood complex you have, if you didn't compensate or do whatever else is asked of you to obtain the product, and even ideas can be products, you stole it. I am not ok with that at all. If you are ok with being a thief that's your problem, don't try to make me thank you for it. But with that all said we are way off topic. I started this thread to ask a question. It has been answered. I don't know how to close a thread on this forum, but it needs to be closed. If you want to argue about morality, START YOUR OWN THREAD! Please stop doing it on mine. Thank you.
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Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).

rpmccormick said:
Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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I don't have the time/patience to look up and post all of the links , but go to wikipedia and look up Intellectual property and you will see that it is protected and treated as real property with all of the same rights. That means that taking someones music, app, program or any other IP without their permission is still theft. Don't believe me ask a lawyer. As I said before. The original topic this thread was started for has been answered and this thread is closed. Start your own thread if you really want to hash this one out.
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rpmccormick said:
Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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jeez, cmon. just because you arnt physically taking it away doesnt mean you didnt steal it, i steal. i can admit that, no im not proud of it but i cant afford any of it anyway. but having your moral compass pointed so far south like that is just wrong.

rpmccormick said:
Ok. I'm quite respectful, and will leave this thread alone as requested. Just know that I would never steal anything from anyone (which requires taking something physical away from them).
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I did stay away for a while. Not trolling. Will stay away again... but I saw this today and felt I had to picture-post back to ReActive. Many other people share my morals. To us, "having your moral compass pointed so far [north] like that is just wrong."
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rpmccormick said:
I did stay away for a while. Not trolling. Will stay away again... but I saw this today and felt I had to picture-post back to ReActive. Many other people share my morals. To us, "having your moral compass pointed so far [north] like that is just wrong."
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EDNYLaw regarding locked bootloader's

Author is xda member Ednylaw
To file with the FCC, EDNYLaw has created a formal complaint. To use, simply click the link below, download the .docx and input YOUR name and information required below.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26329079/FCC%20Complaint%20Web.docx
Here is EDNYlaw in his own words:
Quoted from Post 55: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29945914&postcount=55
EDNYLaw said:
I am the Attorney who wrote that comment on Droid Life and wrote the FCC Complaint. Please direct all your questions to me as I'm happy to answer them and help move things forward. A couple of things:
1) To those that think unlocking a bootloader is pointless with all the workarounds, I don't want to hear it, if that's how you feel, you're entitled to your opinion but please don't pollute this thread with your useless comments. Help or get out. PS: if the bootloader gets unlocked I fully expect either a) a statement from anyone saying it was pointless thanking the community if they choose to unlock or b) you DO NOT unlock your bootloader
2) I have not taken Verizon to court, the FCC did not take Verizon to court. The FCC made a determination that Verizon is violating the C Block regulation (it's a regulation, not law, there's a difference) and fined them. The violation was in regard to tethering apps and Google wallet. While my complaint touched on these things, the gravamen of my complaint was regarding locked bootloaders and custom ROMs, which I believe there is still a significant argument to be made.
3) Anyone who wants to read my full complaint (and send it to the FCC or their US Senators/Representatives under their name) it is located here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/109uYmho_6daIpAl0ACPSFoK0qrd6K9wp5yeqM7dEaoI/edit edit it accordingly as the beginning part was specific to me
4) Keep me informed and up to date about anything. The more minds the better. I've subscribed to this topic so I'll check in when I can.
5) As of yet I can't really think of a cause of action to take Verizon to court other than an injunction, but I'm not even thinking about a lawsuit unless it's funded or I get some help from other attorneys. I have a full time job and I'm learning to develop in my free time so I just don't have the time to pursue a giant lawsuit by myself for free right now
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If OP could put this in the OP it'll probably be helpful:
When I say fill in your information I mean:
I've bolded the things you need to fill in
STATE OF YOUR STATE )
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COUNTY OF YOUR COUNTY )
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In re Verizon Wireless
YOUR NAME
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Verizon Wireless
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You do not need an FCC Complaint Number, the reason I had a complaint number was I had previously sent in a complaint.
Make sure you also "sign" it at the bottom (last page) above where it says Complainant
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EDNYLaw said:
1) Use my complaint (provided in my post above) and in the first part where it says Verizon Wireless against... fill in your name and in the last part where it says "Respectfully Submitted" put your info in (Name, address, telephone, email)
2) I filed the complaint with the FCC and got a BS canned response from Verizon, I refiled and got the same canned BS response. After my Senator followed up I got a response from the FCC saying I could file a formal complaint, but clearly that was just a dead end since I filed 2 formal complaints and pushed the issue with my senator. Though I guess someone at the FCC caught wind because that 7/31 decision seemed to agree with my complaints and the timing was a little too coincidental
3) Completely free: go to fcc.gov and click on file consumer complaint. Email, fax or mail my complaint with your information filled in to them. I would also send it to your US Senators. Anyone from Minnesota, I think Senator Franken would be a great person to follow up with something like this.
4) In order to help out, SPREAD THE WORD! The more people that are vocal about this the better. When I was doing this with Moto I tried to get Droid Life, Android Central and Phandroid to post an article but none of them were interested. I say, spam them and get them to post an article with my complaint and what people can do. Again, the more people that are complaining and vocal, the more likely a response will be had. Give people my complaint to fill in, email the fcc chairman and commissioners (google to find their emails, it's just [email protected]). If you (or someone you know who is interested in this type of thing) is an attorney, feel free to PM me and maybe we can talk about something. Again, I don't have a tremendous amount of time to invest in this for no pay and by myself. But if there were enough attorney's interested I'd do it pro bono (for free) with the help of a group of attorneys.
And as I said, if you have questions about Verizon's policy and potential violations, ask me and I'll try to answer them. I did all the research and writing myself in my spare time and I think I nailed it insofar as the legal issues. There is next to no case law on the specific issues so I had to make legal arguments based on what little resources I had and the plain language of the regulation. Now at least that the FCC has released this decision, there is some precedent that they are actually willing to enforce a regulation instead of being a puppet for the wireless carriers (though I'm not completely convinced they're autonomous, 1.25 million to Verizon is nothing when their profits were 2.4 billion last year, that's .0005% of their profits for those keeping score at home)
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Thanks EDNYLaw. Mine is going in the mail today!
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Good bye HTC Rezound, hello Galaxy S3!

Haha this is epic. Here comes another fine Verizon!
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Dude I wish you well, and your kinda my hero today lol
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Very nice; thanks for posting it.
More momentum for our filing our complaints.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808956
FCC will win, VZW will send an update....right at the moment I say to myself, "Ah....it took weeks but I have my phone exactly how I want it!"

am i the only one who sees no reason for unlocking the bootloader? we have a perfectly functioning workaround.

brockkk said:
am i the only one who sees no reason for unlocking the bootloader? we have a perfectly functioning workaround.
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Perfectly is an overstatement. It kinda sucks and we don't have a ton of development cause devs frankly don't want to deal with it.
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We do have a good workaround, however we shouldn't need a workaround.
Hopefully this goes somewhere, and Verizon has to fork out some more of that money of ours.

What was the outcome of this letter? It was pre Nexus S, so I assume it's been dealt with?

brockkk said:
am i the only one who sees no reason for unlocking the bootloader? we have a perfectly functioning workaround.
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Workarounds are a stop-gap, duct tape, a rubber band and bubble gum, and should be temporary. Many (myself included) don't want to deal with it and it isolates us from a significant part of the dev community. One of the reasons I wanted the SIII is for its large, wide-spread attention...but ours is gimped.
The bigger issue is that VZW won't stop at bootloaders; how long before they lock everything?
The biggest issue is VZW is doing an end-run around the law.

AndroidGraphix said:
Just read this and thought it would be nice to share.
http://www.google.com/gwt/x/e?u=htt...Ymho_6daIpAl0ACPSFoK0qrd6K9wp5yeqM7dEaoI/edit
Good bye HTC Rezound, hello Galaxy S3!
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Where did you read that? Also, keep us updated!!!

ddggttff3 said:
Where did you read that? Also, keep us updated!!!
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Found on Droid life.
Good bye HTC Rezound, hello Galaxy S3!

Drama queens. The development is fine.

brockkk said:
Drama queens. The development is fine.
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The reason why we are "drama queens" is because Verizon is violating the law and is telling us that they could care less about that they locked the bootloader even if it violates the Block C since they can somehow get away with stuff like that.

brockkk said:
Drama queens. The development is fine.
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Obviously a noob with no idea of the potential this phone has and how crippled it is with a locked bootloader. Either that or he is killing time until he can preorder the iphone 5.
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This guy needs to talk to them about Google wallet. Stupid Verizon.
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Anyone know who the author is ??
the title is little misleading only cuz the fcc has not taken them to court yet, and more then likely Verizon will comply before it makes it to court
it looks more of very formal and will written compliant to the fcc (could be wrong still reading from phone)
very valid points presented in the compliant the fcc will diffidently pay attention to this one
i would suggest the author attache the petition in this thread to the complaint
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
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Yeah, well. They claim that an unlocked bootloader shaves a few seconds off boot time. But it also has the ability to prevent bricks, and it makes development more open-ended. Right now all of vzw's custom rom devs have to bake kexec into the rom, which require extra work.
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To everyone saying that some people here are drama queens, look at all the development the international version has: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1566. Just about all I see on that page is ROMs, ROMs, and more jelly bean ROMs. The locked bootloader has turned devs away from our version (as many people have already said). You may be happy with CM10 and a kexec workaround, but a lot of us want more options.

tonu42 said:
Look at how far whining has gotten for the Droid Series by Motorola. No where.
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Did Motorola have an agreement with the FCC prohibiting such activities?
If it doesn't stop now, how long before your recovery also becomes locked?

kmoore11 said:
To everyone saying that some people here are drama queens, look at all the development the international version has: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1566. Just about all I see on that page is ROMs, ROMs, and more jelly bean ROMs. The locked bootloader has turned devs away from our version (as many people have already said). You may be happy with CM10 and a kexec workaround, but a lot of us want more options.
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International version had a jump on Verizon. Hell every other carrier did. I browsed the first page of at&ts development and counted 7 ROMs Verizon had 4 on their first page. And don't even bother looking at sprints development section. This is all getting blown out of proportion.

Recover Video of Police Thieft

a police officer snatched my HTC One XL out of my hands and deleted a video I had just taken of him being heavy handed. (that's thief and destruction in my eyes)
I would like to recover the video and a few hours later when I got home I tried to recover the video but had no luck.
No more photo's or videos were taken after the video was deleted.
I mounted phone in disk drive mode and ran [email protected] UNDELETE
it found the files he deleted and had the correct date and time.
I recovered them but have found them to be all "0" in the hex explorer of "UNDELETE"
It recovers a 25mb file but it won't play obviously as it has no data.
I have also used Recuva and it has the same issue. Both apps were run in a "deep" mode as they took about 25 minutes per recovery.
My question is:
Does the HTC One XL write all zero bits when you delete a file, surely not.
Is it possibly just a case that the phone is just not letting the recovery apps look at the data ? If so is there any way to recover ?
I have turned on USB debugging but that has the same results.
Cheers
Louis

Well that sucks... You didn't file a complaint about this public servant at his place of work?
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I don't think its anything particular with the phone. Folks on here have gotten Recuva to work on the One X, from what I've read in the past. But the memory may have been over-written already by some other process. Since once that happens, I don't think Recuva can retrieve the file.
Recuva seems to give the best results to retrieve corrupted or deleted data, from what I've read on here. So I'm not sure if you'll get much better results using other methods, at least from a consumer level. And in my experience Recuva doesn't work a great many times. I think I've only been able to recover deleted/corrupted photos 1 out of the 3 or 4 occasions I've used Recuva.
And not to get too far off topic, or sound like a know-it-all. But there are some states (Illinois, Maryland, and Massachusetts that I know of) that have passed laws that make it illegal to video tape police while they are performing their duties. Its total BS, since video taping things in public is generally perfectly legal. And the police wouldn't need to make it illegal, unless they were trying to hide something. I could understand if the SWAT team was trying to conceal their special tactics, or something like that. But for a regular officer performing everyday tasks, such laws are not justifiable IMO.
In any case, you might research if there are any such laws in your area (if you haven't already) prohibiting taking video of police. The officer probably did step over the line by deleting the photos on his own, even if there is such a law (its not his job to play judge, jury and executor). But even if you are able to recover the video, depending on the local laws, you might not want to do anything with it anyway. One guy from Maryland was facing 16 years in jail, for posting a video on Youtube of a police officer brutalizing him. I think this and similar cases have become ongoing legal battles, and escalated to higher federal courts. And the laws may well be found to be in the wrong in the end. But probably not something you want to mess with, unless you really intend to be be in it for the long haul (if such laws exist in your area).

stop trying to make cops look like the bad guy, if he was there, he was doing his job. If some stupid kids were giving him a hard time, I wish he confiscates your phone for evidence next time.
Get a life. There job is hard enough.

bloodrain954 said:
stop trying to make cops look like the bad guy, if he was there, he was doing his job.
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Maybe, maybe not. If the officer was in fact in the right, the video probably would prove so. While witnesses may distort the truth, or recall things improperly, a video will not. That's why the police have become so afraid of video devices now that they are so ubiquitous. God forbid video evidence be taken to prove whether they were doing their job properly or not.
And its not the officers job or right to make the judgement of whether a video should be deleted or not. By doing so, he is almost admitting guilt. Why hide something, if you have nothing to hide?
I respect the police as much as anybody, probably more than most. But any human being is capable of abusing their position, and at a minimum the general public should have the means to record such abuses if they happen in public.

What about Apple's new patents on location based triggers that can disable hardware like cameras or internet... you know in "sensitive areas" .. like concerts or movie theaters..
or cop cars... hmm :sly:
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bloodrain954 said:
stop trying to make cops look like the bad guy, if he was there, he was doing his job. If some stupid kids were giving him a hard time, I wish he confiscates your phone for evidence next time.
Get a life. There job is hard enough.
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Stop implying there are no bad cops in the US.
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Guys, let's stay on topic. This kind of discussion belongs in the Off-Topic thread if it belongs on XDA at all. Seems like the OP's question has been answered, so let it go.

I thought some of the data may have been corrupt or written over but not written over the whole set of 3 videos with "zeros" (as shown by hex editor)
I recorded:
348mb
23.5mb
7.81mb
as I made no more recording I would have thought I could get something, at least not all "zeros".
I was hoping that someone may be able to point out why I am getting all "zeros"
ps, this happened yesterday in Adelaide, South Australia. http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/nati...81d2-3bcf74e62d03/claims-of-police-brutality/
and is against the law for an officer to delete your footage here.
Regards
Louis

bloodrain954 said:
stop trying to make cops look like the bad guy, if he was there, he was doing his job. If some stupid kids were giving him a hard time, I wish he confiscates your phone for evidence next time.
Get a life. There job is hard enough.
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I smell bacon.
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90 % of pigs are scum. Who knows you may be one of the good ones. If thats the case, your one in a million buddy. I wish I had something to offer the OP cuz I'd love to see him be able to recover the video
Just a thought, rather than mounting in disk mode maybe you could try this procedure instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994705

Cheers for the link, Judging that you need to root your phone I may have to root my phone. That may be the issue.

JoeBlogs said:
as I made no more recording I would have thought I could get something, at least not all "zeros".
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Any process that uses the internal SD could have snagged (over-wrote) that part of the memory.
But I agree that something else may be making Recuva fail. I've had Recuva fail more times than it works, and it can't be a case of the blocks being over-written every time.

I know on my phone there is a hidden trash folder that everything goes too that's deleted try looking there
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CheesyNutz said:
I know on my phone there is a hidden trash folder that everything goes too that's deleted try looking there
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Could be because you're on linux, I never had the .trash-1000 folder until I started on Ubuntu.