Open source Snapdragon graphics driver released - EVO 4G Android Development

Not sure if this was already known, but Qualcomm released an open source driver for the Snapdragon GPU. Figured this might help the developers:
phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODM4OA

Oh sweet. Could lead to Ubuntu Mobile Edition on EVO. That'd be kick ass.

erulai said:
Oh sweet. Could lead to Ubuntu Mobile Edition on EVO. That'd be kick ass.
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Or hopefully a possible fix to the 30 FPS?? That would be necessary! ....but so would UME.

The more than capable devs on this site will have that GPU humming with this knowledge!! This can only mean good things.

this is awesome, i wish there was a whitepaper to read!
good luck devs.

nenn said:
this is awesome, i wish there was a whitepaper to read!
good luck devs.
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Yeah I wish there was Snapdragon whitepaper too
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Or hopefully a possible fix to the 30 FPS?? That would be necessary! ....but so would UME.
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I REALLY doubt the cap is in the GPU code. It could be, but it's unlikely.
And its also funny how when I have my thread about overclocking the GPU, seemingly no one cared, and yet people post something that may not even be new (it looks like the same code we have now, but I'll check it out more) people jump all over it.
EDIT: It's definitely different. And it looks like the overclock may be possible now, but that'll take some more time.

This is really f**king awesome!
This was one of the complaints with the Evo, that it doesn't have a proper GPU driver. Not to mention I believe when Qualcomm bought out ATI was when their desktop drivers were complete crap - if much hasn't been updated, this could lead to some extreme performance increases.
Regardless, this is nothing but good!

Sorry if this is a stupid question but what exactly will this mean for the end user? Better gaming? Faster overall performance?

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Sorry if this is a stupid question but what exactly will this mean for the end user? Better gaming? Faster overall performance?
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Without a driver things are slow. So better gaming and faster performance.

Help me......I can't quit drooling lmao...... this is great.
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Ummm, didn't AMD buy ATI?

theillustratedlife said:
Ummm, didn't AMD buy ATI?
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Apparently, not that particular division. It was sold to Qualcomm.

theillustratedlife said:
Ummm, didn't AMD buy ATI?
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Desktop and computer graphics division is now owned by AMD, but the handheld/mobile devices division was sold to Qualcomm in 2008.

OMG! THIS IS GONNA BE GOOOOOOOOD!!!
With the amazing devs that are coding for the Evo.. its ON!!
BRAVO to qualcomm! I am going to take this as a sign that they see what is going on with other manufacturers (like they are getting spanked with regards to performance of their chipsets) and they want to see what the community can do!!
THAT is why i love ANDROID!!!

This is nice, although this will not help the GPU Devs with the frame cap. The EVO,Droid Incredible, and N1 all hold the same GPU processor, a Adreno 200.
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Maybe its time to invest in that kickstand heat sink after all

frettfreak said:
OMG! THIS IS GONNA BE GOOOOOOOOD!!!
With the amazing devs that are coding for the Evo.. its ON!!
BRAVO to qualcomm! I am going to take this as a sign that they see what is going on with other manufacturers (like they are getting spanked with regards to performance of their chipsets) and they want to see what the community can do!!
THAT is why i love ANDROID!!!
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Yeah. I guarantee you no one saw that one coming. But that is a very good point. If I made a chip, and want to sell it to phone manufacturers, but one phone company (*cough* HTC) runs just the generic driver and doesn't optimize it, then in the end, I look bad. Now if they'll release the whitepapers to the Snapdragon itself....whoa...

Unfortunately, its not the full driver.
The announcement itself clearly states, kernel 3D drivers are really just resource managers. The real driver lives in userland, and that part isn't open source.

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Unfortunately, its not the full driver.
The announcement itself clearly states, kernel 3D drivers are really just resource managers. The real driver lives in userland, and that part isn't open source.
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Perhaps, but maybe there's SOMETHING in there that would be useful for developers. Any performance gain at all would be sweet!

Also, before you guys get too excited... imagine the scenario:
You got this brand new video card, an NVidia GeForce 280 GT...
But you only have a 14 inch crt monitor.
Well that's what it seems like we're facing as of now on the EVO.

Related

HTC 2009 Roadmap - all 25 pictures

Since PPCGEEKS is getting hammered, I grabbed all the pics from the roadmap to post here. Sorry if this has been posted already, couldn't find it when I looked.
Also sorry I was too lazy to individually post them.
-Mc
Wow, now that's what I call a leak... I can only hope for HTC that current generation sale won't suffer that much...
I was really considering getting Touch Pro, but the only thing holding me back was the performance of Qualcomm CPU. However, now that HTC announeced that they most likely will use other CPUs with next generation of phones, makes me really wonder if I should get Touch Pro or wait
What I really would like to have, is a Touch HD, with side QWERTY and performace of Asus 565 ) (HTC hope ur reading this topic!)
Well, but anyways, in terms of viual aspect - I think the new lineup is pretty nice (with few colourful exceptions...)
Great info mate, thnaks, now I can say that HD with kb will appear sometime this year!!!!
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Since PPCGEEKS is getting hammered, I grabbed all the pics from the roadmap to post here. Sorry if this has been posted already, couldn't find it when I looked.
Also sorry I was too lazy to individually post them.
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nice one
Its all down to if they perform as good as they look.....hopefully yes!!
25 devices in one year does sound a little too much to me.. I just hope they have the time and the will needed to support today's models.
In other words, I hope this doesn't stop them from developing a new ROM for the Touch HD when WM7 is out!
EXCITING!
If there was only specs... uggghhh. this'll hold me over for sure though.
Flickr Gallery Slideshow:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157612448219843/show/
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Wow, now that's what I call a leak... I can only hope for HTC that current generation sale won't suffer that much...
I was really considering getting Touch Pro, but the only thing holding me back was the performance of Qualcomm CPU. However, now that HTC announeced that they most likely will use other CPUs with next generation of phones, makes me really wonder if I should get Touch Pro or wait
What I really would like to have, is a Touch HD, with side QWERTY and performace of Asus 565 ) (HTC hope ur reading this topic!)
Well, but anyways, in terms of viual aspect - I think the new lineup is pretty nice (with few colourful exceptions...)
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which other chipset? you mean other than qualcomm? the OMAP 34x0 of the palm pre?
which contender do you see?
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which other chipset? you mean other than qualcomm? the OMAP 34x0 of the palm pre?
which contender do you see?
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Here's what I was referring to:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090106PD224.html
and this is the website of the mobile platform:
http://www.ericsson.com/solutions/mobile_platforms/
I wonder how good it is really.
As much as I like HTC products, I think many people would welcome faster CPU. Personally, I would be more than happy if HTC decided to go for Xscale (made by Marvell) and left a 3d accelerator as well.
That's a nice 'lil thingie for instance: http://www.marvell.com/files/technologies/Marvell_PXA168_Product_Brief.pdf
I guess time will tell...
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Here's what I was referring to:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20090106PD224.html
and this is the website of the mobile platform:
http://www.ericsson.com/solutions/mobile_platforms/
I wonder how good it is really.
As much as I like HTC products, I think many people would welcome faster CPU. Personally, I would be more than happy if HTC decided to go for Xscale (made by Marvell) and left a 3d accelerator as well.
That's a nice 'lil thingie for instance: http://www.marvell.com/files/technologies/Marvell_PXA168_Product_Brief.pdf
I guess time will tell...
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Ericsson? interesting
and what do you think of qualcomm snapdragon?
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
Surely Qualcomm must put some money in to keep HTC using them...
I am quite sure the snapdragon will be available in summer in the next HD or Diamond.
Anyway thanks for the information
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Ericsson? interesting
and what do you think of qualcomm snapdragon?
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
Surely Qualcomm must put some money in to keep HTC using them...
I am quite sure the snapdragon will be available in summer in the next HD or Diamond.
Anyway thanks for the information
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Well, I'm pretty sure HTC won't completely move away from Qualcomm. It's really a well balanced solution for smartphones - a kind of all-in-one chip.
Snapdragon is pretty interesting too. I saw the specs while ago, the only thing that's missing there for me is hardware support for video decoding. It has 3D accellerator all right, but HTC has basically shown that it doesn't care much about utilizing its' speed for things other than the fancy GUI.
Of course, it won't bother people who don't watch any videos on their smartphones, but those who do that won't be happy. For instance I still have my Axim X50V, which can playback a 2CD DVDrip at 215Mhz, without any hickups. This unfortunately isn't possible on Diamond and the rest of the bunch.
Here's an interesting comparison test on Asus P565 and Diamond.
http://gadgetmix.com/index/?p=2420
and another one:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1806
I read a topic here on XDADev about Touch Pro, and someone has contacted HTC for official statement about the 3D drivers. Their reply was (regarding Touch Pro at least) that it is a business device and they have no plans for developing a 3d driver...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429679
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449391
I know many people were pretty disappointed when HTC announced the specs of TouchHD and it turned out it has the same CPU as the rest of 2008 lineup.
Problem is, that if u r a person who likes to play around and tune your device (like I think all people here on XDADev) there's no real alternative for HTC
Hopefully HTC will hear the calls of masses
PS. Check out youtube for Nvidia Tegra This is a killer CPU.
this just announced Marvell's PXA168 Capable of 1GHz+ would be awesome on a new PPC device!
http://www.marvell.com/products/cellular/marvell_pxa168_applications_processor_sheeva/release/1199/

Froyo + Motorola's upcoming 2Ghz smartphone/device = Nerdgasm!

Looks like I know what I'll be getting for Christmas!
To be honest I never liked Motorola design, they always seems not right. I think "awkward" is the word that describes their design
Not to start a flame war here, but what this post go to do in "Android Development and Hacking -> Android Software and Hacking General" ???
I will never forgive Motorola for the Cliq. They have already gotten enough money from me.
<ghasp> Oh Snap i wish it was a HTC though. They're less awkward
2ghz... in a smart phone?? How much is this gonna cost?!
2ghz in a phone & when you start to use it , the device goes down in 4 hrs
Yes i think processors are good enough for now They should work on battery life! my Desire is fast enough =)
See my sig...
Actually, I'm interested to see if these new phones are released in Google Experience vs. Motorola maintained version, vis Droid vs. Milestone again. I saw some images of the 'Droid X' today that had the Google Experience logo so looks like the lucky yanks will get the unlocked versions again, unlike the rest of us.
I dont get why people dont like motorolla? my brother has a droid and it's freakin sweet to me. Im still rollin with a G1.
Im excited for the 2ghz processor + froyo. thats ultimate speed and power! that thing can redirect a remote missile in real time! (joking ofcourse) BUT what if someone could create an app that will run PC or OSX programs through android for you! like the way wine bottle is for pc programs to mac. I mean the processor is right! 4.3 inch touch screen with qwerty keyboard is plenty comfort space for me to work with programs.
Nerdgasm!
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ahahahaha lool thts the only reason i read this thread but now ive looked at it its quite interesting i mean that Is faster than my laptop (1.6ghz mba lol i know its slow but you know what else ? its thin lol )thtd b soo fast ima wait for new phone and omg i hope tht is but in there 'shadow' because the redners look siiik
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I will never forgive Motorola for the Cliq. They have already gotten enough money from me.
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Amen! No more Motorola for me.
Fuzi0719 said:
Amen! No more Motorola for me.
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I have the Milestone and have to say that I am pretty happy. I remember my old MPx200 and it was nice too, that was the last time I had a Moto. Build quality is perfect for me. At least no cheap-chinese plastic like in HTC's Desire et.al.

Latest Galaxy S Overclock to 1.6 GHz and Sees FPS Unlock Achieving 78.0, Breaks!

http://phandroid.com/2010/10/27/lat...-unlock-achieving-78-0-breaks-3k-on-quadrant/
http://androidspin.com/2010/10/27/samsung-galaxy-s-overclocked-to-1-6ghz-with-3-forms-of-proof/
Will all this be brought to the Epic 4g as well?? This looks promising. I'm not sure if these tweaks are based on 2.1 or 2.2 though...
sounds like fun =)
Says 2.2 in the article. The only thing I wonder is why this is needed other than being freaking cool. There is nothing on the Android Market right now that comes close to taxing the processor/GPU at stock speeds, because other phones would be incapable of running it at all. Now if Samsung were to commission some games to be made to take advantage of the awesome processor/gpu, that would be a different story.
Ouch! Now I know the Evo needs more cowbell.
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Says 2.2 in the article. The only thing I wonder is why this is needed other than being freaking cool. There is nothing on the Android Market right now that comes close to taxing the processor/GPU at stock speeds, because other phones would be incapable of running it at all. Now if Samsung were to commission some games to be made to take advantage of the awesome processor/gpu, that would be a different story.
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Its not, people overclock for fun. Its a PC Nerd thing, which seems to have caught on with phones.
"The team’s committing to releases for every version of the phone save for the Fascinate on Verizon."
Looks like it's only a matter of time.
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Says 2.2 in the article. The only thing I wonder is why this is needed other than being freaking cool. There is nothing on the Android Market right now that comes close to taxing the processor/GPU at stock speeds, because other phones would be incapable of running it at all. Now if Samsung were to commission some games to be made to take advantage of the awesome processor/gpu, that would be a different story.
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The extra cpu and gpu power could help improve psx4droid gameplay
All in due time for sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8861867
I am really more impressed on the FPS.
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The extra cpu and gpu power could help improve psx4droid gameplay
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Hmm, I wasn't thinking of emulators. Interesting. Now if that N64 emulator ever sees the light of day . . . .
aint that some crazy ****! and they think they can hit 2ghz...damn i love my epic lol its only a matter of time now till the kernel gets ported and we see what these cpu's are really capable of
this is sick....but it makes me wonder what the Tegra 2 has to offer if its power rumors are true
Can the tegra hit +70fps on 3d benchmarks? (Not that its necessary)
I want this!! Make it so .....please!
They said something along the line of. Using ext4 format for the sd card to avoid the 'lag fix'. What does our epic use?
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First the kernel would have to support Ext4. not that big of a deal. But if you formatted ext4 on your SD card, it wouldn't be readable by Windows machines.
More than likely they mean using ext4 on the internal OneNand.
*fapfapfapfapfapfapfap*
People actually buying into this crap? LOL, too funny!
This is great but I'm looking more foward to next year when this kind of power is gonna be needed.
Being king of the benchmark hill is fun too.
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haas599 said:
This is great but I'm looking more foward to next year when this kind of power is gonna be needed.
Being king of the benchmark hill is fun too.
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The thing is, i dont know how this power will be needed even a year from now. Its a tricky situation. For this power to be needed, developers have to intentionally develop a game that needs high powered software to run it, essentially cutting off a giant segment of older phones. Alternatively, they have to include multiple texture resolutions and increase the size of the application to accommodate both older hardware and newer hardware. I hope we do see developers doing this, as I would love some killer games for the Epic that other phones couldn't run, but I have a tough time believing it will happen.
Console gaming has long been segmented. Lots of people will own epics. Who's to say it can't be that way for phones? Or let's go as far as pc games. They have long standing issues with compatablility
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Its getting busy in here :-)

Wow this area of the forum is getting busy, last week there was just a few of us, now the numbers are increasing fast. I knew this phone was going to be popular, just wait till the USA gets it too
Welcome new O3D owners.
Pete
i was just thinking the same i'm a member since yesterday but i followed this forum a few days before that and it's getting real busy awesome
mmm, when is supposed to be out in USA?
I guess we all just know a good phone when we see it.
Can't believe I was considering a Galaxy S2 or an HTC Sensation over my O3D. What was I thinking?!
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I guess we all just know a good phone when we see it.
Can't believe I was considering a Galaxy S2 or an HTC Sensation over my O3D. What was I thinking?!
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Really dude, what were you thinking. Forget about the 3d, Optimus is still better than them. Tri-Dual and the Omap4 is the key
I noticed so excited when I purchased my LG because I'm not so sure whether it is true the right smartphone for me and if it gets the community it deserves. But what amazes me it goes fast because it is not yet available everywhere. I think there are still some great things to come
I'm very close to buying one.
My main concern is that the standard 2D 5MP camera is going to be rubbish up against the Galaxy S II. However, my software support fears have been alleviated by the fact CM7 has been confirmed.
I hear the 3D really is quite excellent.
See this thread if you have a decent pictures to share - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174827
well i started in this forum with my HTC Elfin, then Xperia X1, then Motorola Milestone, then Galaxy S, then Galaxy S2 (for two weeks) and now my journey ended with this masterpiece of a smartphone!
looking forward to flash and test and flash and so on
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I'm very close to buying one.
My main concern is that the standard 2D 5MP camera is going to be rubbish up against the Galaxy S II. However, my software support fears have been alleviated by the fact CM7 has been confirmed.
I hear the 3D really is quite excellent.
See this thread if you have a decent pictures to share - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174827
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Someone tell me why cm7 is so much talked about...whats so special about it? A video? I looked at the about page, and it seems its just a malware protector, themer ect. Nothing special? We already have themes?
borgqueenx said:
Someone tell me why cm7 is so much talked about...whats so special about it? A video? I looked at the about page, and it seems its just a malware protector, themer ect. Nothing special? We already have themes?
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its so much more than just themes. there is deffo no malware protection. most manufacturers would probably describe it as malware!
cyanogenmod is a completely from the ground up customised version of android operating system designed for the power user with the intent of maximising the control over and performance of the raw hardware. it allows you to fully manage the settings and behaviours of your device to suit the way YOU like it.
i will honestly never buy another phone that does not have cyanogen available for it, its that good.
Things do seem to be picking up now in these forums which is nice to see.
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its so much more than just themes. there is deffo no malware protection. most manufacturers would probably describe it as malware!
cyanogenmod is a completely from the ground up customised version of android operating system designed for the power user with the intent of maximising the control over and performance of the raw hardware. it allows you to fully manage the settings and behaviours of your device to suit the way YOU like it.
i will honestly never buy another phone that does not have cyanogen available for it, its that good.
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So it will give us full root, and contain alot optimalisations to make the phone even faster?
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well it's not that easy...
cyanogenmod is a opensource version of android.
normal customroms are basing on firmwares of the company.
cm7 not. its based on the officual code from google.
on the one side the programmers are able to change the code more easyer and deeper than the firmwares, on the other hand its harder to port cm7 to a new device with all the hardwaresupport.
and yes cm7 is always rooted
pros of cm7:
faster (not from the beginning on)
more funktions
cooler
cons of cm7:
at the beginning there are always bugs (due the different hardware)
some functions never work (for example tv-output of the galaxy s)
at the beginning batterydrain
so at the beginning the cm7-ports to a new device are buggy, slow, batterydraining and don't support the full hardware.
but after a lot of new releases it's really great! blazing fast, cooler, batterysaving and and and
Just got my P920 hope the amount of users will grow everyday

DHD GPU overclocked Development

So guys,I was checking the Sensation forums the other day and I saw that they managed to overclock their GPU,something that has been dubbed impossible on the Desire HD.Knowing Qualcomm,however,newer chips are just better than previous one,not different in the way they work.So,my idea is,maybe someone should be contacting these guys in case we can overclock the Adreno 205 as well.That'd give the DHD a much-needed boost.What do you guys think?
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babijoee edit: Updated title
tolis626 edit: No problem.
Anyway,since this thread got the attention it deserved,I have to say a big thank you to shaky153 for all the work he's done,daedric for the pointing to the right direction and to everyone who simply supported the idea.This is XDA!
Welcome to the desire hd gpu development thread
I can get all technical here about the gpu but i think its best i don't
Ive achieved setting the 2dclock at 245mhz on boot but somehow during boot, it kicks back to its 192mhz
This thread will get updated frequently with any news on achieving gpu overclocking
I would love it, but i'm not sure if it's possible. Correct me if i'm wrong
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I would love it, but i'm not sure if it's possible. Correct me if i'm wrong
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Well,I do remember much work being done on the original Desire and the Nexus One but to no avail.However the Adreno 200 was a right nasty piece of crap.I once "discussed" this with LeeDroid and he told me that it was not possible,but I think he had based his answer on the fact that work on the original Desire led to nothing.But if a dev actually looks into it and asks the guys at the Sensation forums,we might be next to something pretty cool.
So no one's interested?I'm surprised.Negatively.
Uh... can you provide a link to a thread/tut on how to OC the GPU of the sensation?
With the qualcomm cpus/gpus when you OC the CPU you are also OCing the GPU...
I'm very interested but rarely check the general section. A link would be helpful
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Uh... can you provide a link to a thread/tut on how to OC the GPU of the sensation?
With the qualcomm cpus/gpus when you OC the CPU you are also OCing the GPU...
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I'm very interested but rarely check the general section. A link would be helpful
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Thank god!I thought my fellow ol' Desire HD pals weren't mad anymore now that I left!
So,I can't give you a link that shows how to do it,but here is BrickedKernel's thread,which has the GPU overclocked.If you'd ask show-p1984 how it's done,I don't think he wouldn't tell you.
tolis626 said:
That'd give the DHD a much-needed boost.
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Much-needed for what?
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Much-needed for what?
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lol i second that
much needed for what? the newest 3D games run liquid smooth on the DHD
but maybe it will speed up the GPU accelerated sense 3.0 UI
Well atm it can run most games pretty decent but knowing that there's room for improvement we addicts just need that fix XD
Overclocking will not yield massive improvements; GPUs for the most part just don't overclock that well in comparison to CPUs.
You will either get worse battery life or worse performance. So it's a choice between the two. But again, there isn't much point, the DHD's GPU is not slow by any means.
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Well atm it can run most games pretty decent but knowing that there's room for improvement we addicts just need that fix XD
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Yep,that's the spirit.If we just accepted everything that worked,we-XDA-wouldn't have been here in the first place.It won't hurt to try now,will it?
Plus,decent has a long way to go to become awesome.
lambomanx1 said:
Overclocking will not yield massive improvements; GPUs for the most part just don't overclock that well in comparison to CPUs.
You will either get worse battery life or worse performance. So it's a choice between the two. But again, there isn't much point, the DHD's GPU is not slow by any means.
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Lemme get this straight,you base that information where exactly?Because for the most part I see manufacturer overclocked GPU's and GPU's with manufacturer unlocked clocks,and full PC GPU's are much better examples than mobile,embeded chips.
Another one.On my Galaxy S 2 I used Tegrak Overclock and overclocked my GPU at 400MHz,all the way from 267MHz.Hell,I even raised the minimum clock to 200MHz instead of 160MHz.Performance?You have no idea.Absolutely amazing.Plus,I saw absolutely no increase in battery drain(Not that there isn't,but it's so slight that other parts,like the screen,drain the battery MUCH faster).
So,unless you have some actual references,don't say bullsh!t.Thank you.
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Lemme get this straight,you base that information where exactly?Because for the most part I see manufacturer overclocked GPU's and GPU's with manufacturer unlocked clocks,and full PC GPU's are much better examples than mobile,embeded chips.
Another one.On my Galaxy S 2 I used Tegrak Overclock and overclocked my GPU at 400MHz,all the way from 267MHz.Hell,I even raised the minimum clock to 200MHz instead of 160MHz.Performance?You have no idea.Absolutely amazing.Plus,I saw absolutely no increase in battery drain(Not that there isn't,but it's so slight that other parts,like the screen,drain the battery MUCH faster).
So,unless you have some actual references,don't say bullsh!t.Thank you.
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Firstly, rather than being agressive to fellow posters, read their posts. I said, for the most part. Not, "in every single case known to man".
Secondly, I base that information on general knowledge and generally agreed knowledge in the PC community. CPU's overclock well; my old E4300 ran at 3.1GHz, stock 1.8GHz. Core 2, Core i5/i7 chips, have all overclocked immensely well. In comparison, GPUs do not do anywhere near as well most of the time. This is changing, however.
Secondly, you're talking about your Galaxy S2. We aren't.
I've stated that "in general, GPUs don't overclock that well". Hence why you'll find that most boutique PC builders do not overclock graphics cards. It's not worth the effort.
You've stated that your GPU overclocks well. The chances are, the far better (and newer) architecture of your SGS2 means that it has a lot more in it than the DHD component.
Finally, don't tell me to find references when you haven't yourself.
lambomanx1 said:
Overclocking will not yield massive improvements; GPUs for the most part just don't overclock that well in comparison to CPUs.
You will either get worse battery life or worse performance. So it's a choice between the two. But again, there isn't much point, the DHD's GPU is not slow by any means.
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DHD Gpu is pretty slow actually.
And... gpus oc prettty well... As to how these specific ones OC... well no one knows because no1 has tried as of yet right? If we can get ~100-200mhz extra outta the GPU with acceptable drain I'd settle for that
lambomanx1 said:
Firstly, rather than being agressive to fellow posters, read their posts. I said, for the most part. Not, "in every single case known to man".
Secondly, I base that information on general knowledge and generally agreed knowledge in the PC community. CPU's overclock well; my old E4300 ran at 3.1GHz, stock 1.8GHz. Core 2, Core i5/i7 chips, have all overclocked immensely well. In comparison, GPUs do not do anywhere near as well most of the time. This is changing, however.
Secondly, you're talking about your Galaxy S2. We aren't.
I've stated that "in general, GPUs don't overclock that well". Hence why you'll find that most boutique PC builders do not overclock graphics cards. It's not worth the effort.
You've stated that your GPU overclocks well. The chances are, the far better (and newer) architecture of your SGS2 means that it has a lot more in it than the DHD component.
Finally, don't tell me to find references when you haven't yourself.
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To get this straight,there is no way that you'll overclock a GPU at,say,double its stock speed.By that manner yes,they don't overclock well.But my father's overclocked Ati 6870 kicks my stock one's ass.Not by a lot,but it does nevertheless.
My Galaxy S 2 was merely an example that it can be done in phones.So is the Sensation that isn't THAT much different than the Desire HD.So it's just a matter of can or can't.If we can,no one will force you to overclock your GPU.
So,unlesa you completely disagree,I think we could end this before we end up in a thread full of flaming.What do you say?
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tolis626 said:
To get this straight,there is no way that you'll overclock a GPU at,say,double its stock speed.By that manner yes,they don't overclock well.But my father's overclocked Ati 6870 kicks my stock one's ass.Not by a lot,but it does nevertheless.
My Galaxy S 2 was merely an example that it can be done in phones.So is the Sensation that isn't THAT much different than the Desire HD.So it's just a matter of can or can't.If we can,no one will force you to overclock your GPU.
So,unlesa you completely disagree,I think we could end this before we end up in a thread full of flaming.What do you say?
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Hi,
I guess it will be awsome!!!
This is the XDA spirit!!!
Let's see what the sensation masters have to say...
best regards
Apparently,overclocking the Adreno 200 is possible,as bananacakes has done it for the Desire here.So,will we get left behind?
By the way,the Adreno 200 overclocked runs at 83MHz...I laughed so hard at that one!
lambomanx1 said:
Firstly, rather than being agressive to fellow posters, read their posts. I said, for the most part. Not, "in every single case known to man".
Secondly, I base that information on general knowledge and generally agreed knowledge in the PC community. CPU's overclock well; my old E4300 ran at 3.1GHz, stock 1.8GHz. Core 2, Core i5/i7 chips, have all overclocked immensely well. In comparison, GPUs do not do anywhere near as well most of the time. This is changing, however.
Secondly, you're talking about your Galaxy S2. We aren't.
I've stated that "in general, GPUs don't overclock that well". Hence why you'll find that most boutique PC builders do not overclock graphics cards. It's not worth the effort.
You've stated that your GPU overclocks well. The chances are, the far better (and newer) architecture of your SGS2 means that it has a lot more in it than the DHD component.
Finally, don't tell me to find references when you haven't yourself.
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@lambomanx1 - please, DO NOT OFF TOPIC.
If you don't like the idea of having better hardware, just go away.
@tolis626 - don't feed you know who. But back to the point - yep, we would like to have this possibility. Best would be as optional overclocking as always, who does not want it, just do not touch it. Althought I'm a dev, I do not know much about cell hardware, so I'm useless, but I would be happy to see someone works on this topic. Maybe you should talk to Lee again, but I doubt he would be happy to work on our "old" hardware while maintaining LeeDroid on both of his phones. So, idea is great, but I thing it will fail if we won't find a dev which knows the hardware and has no access to better than DHD . And there are _big_ chances that Lee had right saying it's simply impossible, but it's worth checking again.
krzych said:
@lambomanx1 - please, DO NOT OFF TOPIC.
If you don't like the idea of having better hardware, just go away.
@tolis626 - don't feed you know who. But back to the point - yep, we would like to have this possibility. Best would be as optional overclocking as always, who does not want it, just do not touch it. Althought I'm a dev, I do not know much about cell hardware, so I'm useless, but I would be happy to see someone works on this topic. Maybe you should talk to Lee again, but I doubt he would be happy to work on our "old" hardware while maintaining LeeDroid on both of his phones. So, idea is great, but I thing it will fail if we won't find a dev which knows the hardware and has no access to better than DHD . And there are _big_ chances that Lee had right saying it's simply impossible, but it's worth checking again.
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Lee is an awesome guy who I think will help if he has time.I even convinced him to give us the first 1.8GHz kernel for the DHD once.
Maybe we should also contact LordClockan.He is an awesome kernel developer with good knowledge of DHD's hardware.
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